help! how to shoot ah?
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during this week, I did my first IMT
and found that i'm one of the bobo shooters lah
my main problem is that many times
i cannot see the target at all loh
esp for fig 11 and fig 15
my degrees 800 for each eye
and my right eye always tear (like cry liddat lah)
and so cannot see properly lah
got any tips for shooting, esp for the problem of cannot see the target?
next week go for live-fireing test at range already -
raise the problem with your sgt. let them know u are having problems seeing e target.Originally posted by kaoya:during this week, I did my first IMT
and found that i'm one of the bobo shooters lah
my main problem is that many times
i cannot see the target at all loh
esp for fig 11 and fig 15
my degrees 800 for each eye
and my right eye always tear (like cry liddat lah)
and so cannot see properly lah
got any tips for shooting, esp for the problem of cannot see the target?
next week go for live-fireing test at range already
anyway my degrees 900 each side, but that wasn't the problem. my problem is that my specs always fog up under my hot breath, and i can't take e helmet off to wipe my specs, becos i had a strap to hold my specs on. -
1) Zero your weapon properly
2) Hold near the thickest part of handgrip
3) Have a firm hold on your rifle, but don't use excessive strength, make sure comfortable position
4) Don't keep aiming at the target, wait until they say "firer, watch your front" then concentrate
5) Breathe normally, see target liao, let out 1/3 breath, front side tip at the middle of your rear sight, slowly squeeze trigger
6) If range abt 100m, then aim slightly lower than where you plan to hit, coz' round will fly abit higher initially
7) Before night shoot, take lighter to heat up your front side tip, that small green thing
That's all to it, make sure weapon zeroed properly. Good luck. -
My eyesight is worse than yours.......around 900+. And i had a lot of difficulty the first time i did IMT. But what you should do is check whether your present pair of spectacles are ok and have the correct degree......cos mine wasn't.
During the shoot.....this is what i did, cos i couldn;t see my target properly due to tearing and other problems. But basically what i did was, before the shoot, find the exact position of the target and aim. Then I'd close my eyes and relax, till they give the command. Hold tightly and fire away..... couldn't actually see the target but i knew it was there.......
And one more thing.....don't panic. Take your time. And remember, IMT is easier than range. I did pretty well for IMT, but barely passed the actual range. Oh and make sure your wep is zeroed properly. IMT shouldn't be a problem, but it could be in live range. (sergeants cocking up the direction)
On another note, don't worry. It's much easier than before. Now we only have to do 32 shots compared to 44. Do well for day and you can slack at night.
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IMT easy meh, i found live firing much easier...can shoot 12/12 for 300m but fail badly for IMTOriginally posted by sunniban:My eyesight is worse than yours.......around 900+. And i had a lot of difficulty the first time i did IMT. But what you should do is check whether your present pair of spectacles are ok and have the correct degree......cos mine wasn't.
During the shoot.....this is what i did, cos i couldn;t see my target properly due to tearing and other problems. But basically what i did was, before the shoot, find the exact position of the target and aim. Then I'd close my eyes and relax, till they give the command. Hold tightly and fire away..... couldn't actually see the target but i knew it was there.......
And one more thing.....don't panic. Take your time. And remember, IMT is easier than range. I did pretty well for IMT, but barely passed the actual range. Oh and make sure your wep is zeroed properly. IMT shouldn't be a problem, but it could be in live range. (sergeants cocking up the direction)
On another note, don't worry. It's much easier than before. Now we only have to do 32 shots compared to 44. Do well for day and you can slack at night.
mabb aircon too shiok cant shoot or not use to the kelver helmet
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wahhhH! i remember my first IMT lessons.. bloody hell..being an assistant sucks... must squat...
then got night firing.. wahh shiok sia... then got standing hip and standing shoulder... there is a trainer there.. a bald indian fellow.. he's very very very nice and will give u lots of tips... such as the positioning of your sandbag and such -
ah well anyway i was on track to a marksmanship...
17 for day shoot, 18 for nite shoot, but on the actualt test day itself, i developed a high fever during the nite shoot. then i got 11 instead of 18 for nite shoot. -
we haf aloto experts here. no need to respond liao. jus here to bump the thread.
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too bad no snipers to give advice. ehhehe...
they are the true experts
800m match box also can hit. hehehehe -
they got scope mah.Originally posted by 12qwaszx:too bad no snipers to give advice. ehhehe...
they are the true experts
800m match box also can hit. hehehehe -
yeah... hehe.. but then their basic should be good lah... or else 800m can see but cannot hit.
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o cos... tts needless to say!Originally posted by 12qwaszx:yeah... hehe.. but then their basic should be good lah... or else 800m can see but cannot hit. -
this forum really bo snipers trained pple ah?
if have, give that poor guy some tips. hehehe... -
Farmer Brown was a sniper instructor at SIW, I think - maybe he's got something to say here.
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hey, speaking of this, can anyone teach me how to practice so by the time i go in NS i can easily hit markman?
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har? i realli dunno how anyone can practice tt. and pls! no need so gan jiong lah.Originally posted by snk86:hey, speaking of this, can anyone teach me how to practice so by the time i go in NS i can easily hit markman? -
well, now don gan chiong how to get my markman???
would practicing archery help?
or do i really have to sigh up at singapore shooting accociation? -
juz finished range... moving onto IFC
wah kao... i got company's Worst shot
can't shoot for nuts... shooting position too inconsistent
zeroing also doesn't help
don't noe why lah.. cannot shoot in day
but can shoot at nite
however screwed up both the shoots for the actual test
managed to pass during day reshoot
plasticine blocked the aperture for nite shoot
so cannot see properly
think they used previous nite shoot results to pass me -
Fire-ers watch your front .... up! Bang Bang
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now SAR21 oso got scope leh, but more impt is their rifle can shoot more than 1km...how to shoot 800m target with M16??Originally posted by wuming78:they got scope mah. -
wat 800 m? btw the max eff range of sar21 is 400m.Originally posted by greyskymorning:now SAR21 oso got scope leh, but more impt is their rifle can shoot more than 1km...how to shoot 800m target with M16?? -
y shooting position too inconsistent? u shift all the time?Originally posted by kaoya:can't shoot for nuts... shooting position too inconsistent
zeroing also doesn't help
don't noe why lah.. cannot shoot in day
but can shoot at nite
however screwed up both the shoots for the actual test
managed to pass during day reshoot
plasticine blocked the aperture for nite shoot
so cannot see properly
think they used previous nite shoot results to pass me
to shoot properly u haf to adopt the same position (tt u r comfortable wif) for the same shoot, and hold ur rifle in the same positions too as much as possible. tts how to get consistency. when u haf consistency, den zeroing will help.
shooting at nite is prob easier cos u aim at one spot of light. so for the dae, perhaps u can do the same i.e. aim at a same spot all the time, say, the hand of the figure? or the centre (roughly) for smaller figures?
for the nite shoot, block the sight may not be necessary. but if u wan to o cos dun block the whole thing! -
go to those shooting trips or courses loh..
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where got ah?Originally posted by bismarck:go to those shooting trips or courses loh.. -
i'm no sniper instructor please. haha but i am a member of the SAF Shooting Contingent. ok fine. i'm not a shooter but i've picked up a lot of tips from the shooters and coaches. and i do carry a marksman badge (it actually amounts to nothing much in my workplace) do u all believe that we have a coach who could hit a target half the size of A4 paper at 500m with an unzeroed weapon? all he needed was 5 rounds. well he used 3 but still.....Originally posted by Gedanken:Farmer Brown was a sniper instructor at SIW, I think - maybe he's got something to say here.
anyway.. from what i can see, u were using the M16S1 which is a fine and accurate weapon to begin with.
i believe someone has already listed the techniques of shooting so i'm gonna help further by listing out the other aspects.
1) if your spectacles fog up, use anti fog spray before going for your detail. DUN WEAR CONTACTS thats stupid... imagine if one drops out... good luck man
2) next, tighten your webbing before going to range to ensure it doesnt swing about too much when u do run downs. V useful..just like for SOC
3) practice aiming at a small target using your weapon in your free time. try to aim at keeping your rifle still, so that your foresight and your rearsight stay in line. start in your pt kit. then move on to long 4. then finally don your helmet and webbing.
4) practice your firing technique! there are quite a few points here:
a)breathing technique
b)triggering. remember to hold your breath before u squeeze of. balance a coin on your muzzle while gently squeezing your trigger. when u squeeze your trigger, feel for the double clicking. next dun snap your trigger. or rather, when u pull your trigger use a firm pull not a quick and "snapping" action. snapping would cause your rifle to shift slightly off aim, causing your barrel to shift and therefore causing your round to fly off in every other direction other then the one u aimed at.
c) hold the rifle firmly to your body but not squeeze it in tightly. the firmness is for you to maintain a stable grip. squeezing it too tightly would cause your rifle to shift off aim due to every small movement off your body.
actually there's a lot more to it then what i've just mentioned. however they deal with more specific problems. if any of you do have problems please dun hesitate to PM me. i'll be willing to answer them to the best of my abilities.
for those that are using the SAR21, please insist on zeroing it. i can't say why as it's restricted information. any other queries i'd be happy to respond to once i verify that you are on a need to know basis.
other then that, if u have difficulty understanding my advice above, print it out and show it to your PS or PC. they would understand. if they too have difficulty understanding, ask them to give the SAF Shooting Contingent a call.
SAF Shooting Contingent,
Shoot To Win.