Scout??
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I've just received my e-Posting, and I realised I've been posted to be a scout (Infantry Recee Trooper). Can anyone tell me what it is like, and what kind of training to expect?
I heard that I get to learn ONE mode of transport (jeep or motorcycle), is that true?
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For IRT, all he does is recce the surroundings... 2nd to go in, last to come out... You either learn to ride a bike (Yamaha XL) or a Command Jeep at Kaki Bukit Camp. Then you will go to SMI (School of Military Intelligence)to learn basic Navi skills before embarking on simple Navex
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siong trg, garang vocation, and i think its quite fun too.
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ah scouts.....a very interesting and tough vocation..Originally posted by pkchukiss:I've just received my e-Posting, and I realised I've been posted to be a scout (Infantry Recee Trooper). Can anyone tell me what it is like, and what kind of training to expect?
I heard that I get to learn ONE mode of transport (jeep or motorcycle), is that true?
Thank you for your help!
as for the training, there will be several courses to go through mainly:
vehicle course - either jeep course or motorcycle course, depending which role you take on. Shiok period..its a STAY OUT course.
Infantry Scout Platoon Course (ISPC) - this course is conducted at School of Military Intelligence (SMI) which teaches you the basics of being a scout/recce trooper. It is after this course that you get the coveted jungle hat. Also, you will attend this course together with your commanders (Sect Comd, PS, PC) which means they will do what you do too..
Combat Survival Training (CST) - This is the course which killed the 2SG...but i think the POW part of the CST had been taken out.. so no worries. for now, the CST is conducted seperate from the ISPC, but i heard they going to integrate it into the ISPC course, but i not sure also.
Some medic course - i forgot the name, but this is a short course which teaches you how to inject yourself as well as inject your buddy. basically poke each other with needles
Artillery course - forgot the name too, this short course teaches you how to direct artillery fire.
thats about it. a lot of course, so very siong. esp ISPC. but the job can be fun. by the way, where you posted to? 4 SIR? 6 SIR? -
It didn't say anything but it's Lim Chu Kang Camp 1 (think that's 4SIR).
I don't mind tough training, it just has to be justifiable (I am the kind who desperately wants to know the meaning of everything before I jump in). Anyway, how long is the total course? Is my status going to be like when I am in BMT (a.k.a. trainee)?
So it means that when I am learning the vehicles, I get to go home after the lessons everyday? Cool!
One last question: Is there such thing as turn-outs in the units? I was actually a bit shaken by the turn out during my BMT field camp (what with thunder bangs and all that). -
go home everydae?! wat makes u think so??Originally posted by pkchukiss:So it means that when I am learning the vehicles, I get to go home after the lessons everyday? Cool!
One last question: Is there such thing as turn-outs in the units? I was actually a bit shaken by the turn out during my BMT field camp (what with thunder bangs and all that).
and turn outs... well.. they r supposedly illegal now. but for ur course, jus be prepared. -
Poke each other with needles... That might be a bit too much for me to take though... I don't mind people doing it to me (proud to be a regular blood donor!), but for me to poke other's skin might give me the bejeepers...
Anyway, I heard that the section size is about 4 men, plus 1 sect com. So the platoon size is 17 people? Can't imagine how intimately I will know my buddy after the entire thing is over... -
*chuckle*... Wishful thinking?? Learning jeeps and motorcycles can't take the entire day, right? Anyway, I am comforted if I can book out on weekends...Originally posted by wuming78:go home everydae?! wat makes u think so??
and turn outs... well.. they r supposedly illegal now. but for ur course, jus be prepared.
I don't know why some people say scout is worse than SISPEC? Is it in terms of the instructors or the instructions??? -
scout trg is more specific, and more tough. naturally since the job scope of the scouts require nothing less.Originally posted by pkchukiss:*chuckle*... Wishful thinking?? Learning jeeps and motorcycles can't take the entire day, right? Anyway, I am comforted if I can book out on weekends...
I don't know why some people say scout is worse than SISPEC? Is it in terms of the instructors or the instructions??? -
First of all, enjoy the bike or jeep course at SOT. There won't be much harassment there. Once you are in SMI, prepared for PT exercise which involves power PT, animal PT, fast march, your bread and butter recce (all sorts of it). Also included will be navigation and operation exercise. There will also be lots of map work. Depending on your luck, you could even turn operational by participating in other unit exercise. I had my last stage of training in Thailand where there was a reservist armour battalion ready to pounce on us. Following that, you will recieve your jungle hats either from the instructor or from your S2. Anyway, just keep your chin up. Your mental power is far more stronger than you think. Think positive and all will go well, afterall no training will last forever.Originally posted by pkchukiss:I've just received my e-Posting, and I realised I've been posted to be a scout (Infantry Recee Trooper). Can anyone tell me what it is like, and what kind of training to expect?
I heard that I get to learn ONE mode of transport (jeep or motorcycle), is that true?
Thank you for your help!
There are some items to bring along for your course:
1) OHP markers (non permanent)
2) survival kit in a small plastic box (sewing kit, fishing line, small watch compass, safety pins, waterproof match, small mirror, fish hooks, comdoms, water purifying tablets, small surgical blades etc)
3) pace counter (if you hate tying knots for navigation)
4) silva compass (even if you are not TC or DY)
5) lots of black tape
6) tatical torchlight (tape up the lens, so that only a small hole remains)
7) ranger eye (get some of those self-luminous strip to sew on the back of your jockey cap)
camouflage stick or cream
9) scarf
10) gloves (half finger)
11) extra water bottles
Items (1-10) should be part of your SBO. Do cultivate the habit to secure every of your items especially the optics and signal equipment if you don't want to sign 1206. Silence all moving parts as sound invites enemies. Use comscord to tie the lens of NVGs to its main body before move out.
During the course when moving out for exercise or training, it is almost exclusively FBO. With FBO, you will need to paint your face including your lips and keep your mouth shut unless you want to paint your teeth.
I was trained under the course commander callsign "dragon". But you people in the later batch are lucky, as far as I know, the frequencies of power PT has decreased. As for combat survival, I guess it will be a washed down version in light of the recent mishap.
Most important is that as long as you tell yourself you can do it, you will be able to do it. Let us all know how you are coping with the training. Welcome to the family, trooper. -
wow. thanks for the very comprehensive reply!Originally posted by mfscrewu:First of all, enjoy the bike or jeep course at SOT. There won't be much harassment there. Once you are in SMI, prepared for PT exercise which involves power PT, animal PT, fast march, your bread and butter recce (all sorts of it). Also included will be navigation and operation exercise. There will also be lots of map work. Depending on your luck, you could even turn operational by participating in other unit exercise. I had my last stage of training in Thailand where there was a reservist armour battalion ready to pounce on us. Following that, you will recieve your jungle hats either from the instructor or from your S2. Anyway, just keep your chin up. Your mental power is far more stronger than you think. Think positive and all will go well, afterall no training will last forever.
There are some items to bring along for your course:
1) OHP markers (non permanent)
2) survival kit in a small plastic box (sewing kit, fishing line, small watch compass, safety pins, waterproof match, small mirror, fish hooks, comdoms, water purifying tablets, small surgical blades etc)
3) pace counter (if you hate tying knots for navigation)
4) silva compass (even if you are not TC or DY)
5) lots of black tape
6) tatical torchlight (tape up the lens, so that only a small hole remains)
7) ranger eye (get some of those self-luminous strip to sew on the back of your jockey cap) camouflage stick or cream
9) scarf
10) gloves (half finger)
11) extra water bottles
Items (1-10) should be part of your SBO. Do cultivate the habit to secure every of your items especially the optics and signal equipment if you don't want to sign 1206. Silence all moving parts as sound invites enemies. Use comscord to tie the lens of NVGs to its main body before move out.
During the course when moving out for exercise or training, it is almost exclusively FBO. With FBO, you will need to paint your face including your lips and keep your mouth shut unless you want to paint your teeth.
I was trained under the course commander callsign "dragon". But you people in the later batch are lucky, as far as I know, the frequencies of power PT has decreased. As for combat survival, I guess it will be a washed down version in light of the recent mishap.
Most important is that as long as you tell yourself you can do it, you will be able to do it. Let us all know how you are coping with the training. Welcome to the family, trooper.
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mfscrewu gave a rather thorough explaination how the Scout training goes in SMI.
Had our Armour Recce Course back then in '97 and I must say I rather take on SOC anytime than the Power PT. Yes, it's in PT kit attire but the number of sets and duration is excruciating. So much so that, your mental strength plays a important role. -
hey pkchukiss ... so you are in 4 SIR???Originally posted by pkchukiss:Poke each other with needles... That might be a bit too much for me to take though... I don't mind people doing it to me (proud to be a regular blood donor!), but for me to poke other's skin might give me the bejeepers...
Anyway, I heard that the section size is about 4 men, plus 1 sect com. So the platoon size is 17 people? Can't imagine how intimately I will know my buddy after the entire thing is over... 
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Yes... Why?
The bike course is quite shiok... Just finished my HSP today. Managed to shave through by answering 4 questions. Failed the first question quite fast -- "Why you didn't check the exit?"
Some of my coursemates were less lucky... The tester went... "THROW AWAY the mirror" when they forgot to check the mirror for vehicles coming from the rear... -
wat is HSP?Originally posted by pkchukiss:Yes... Why?
The bike course is quite shiok... Just finished my HSP today. Managed to shave through by answering 4 questions. Failed the first question quite fast -- "Why you didn't check the exit?"
Some of my coursemates were less lucky... The tester went... "THROW AWAY the mirror" when they forgot to check the mirror for vehicles coming from the rear... -
Highway Situation Problems test. It is essentially a board game with me (the biker), and other road users represented as "chess" pieces in different scenarios.
I would then be asked to explain, with the aid of the board, how to overcome various obstacles and traffic situations.
It is very tough, and one mistake would cause you to fail a scenario. Failing 3 scenarios (you are asked a total of 5) will render you a fail grade, and you would have to retake the WHOLE test again another day. Stringent indeed. -
who conducted your test?
MSG Wong?
MSG Yeo?
Mr Lee?
Mr Ooi? -
board game? hm..Originally posted by pkchukiss:Highway Situation Problems test. It is essentially a board game with me (the biker), and other road users represented as "chess" pieces in different scenarios.
I would then be asked to explain, with the aid of the board, how to overcome various obstacles and traffic situations.
It is very tough, and one mistake would cause you to fail a scenario. Failing 3 scenarios (you are asked a total of 5) will render you a fail grade, and you would have to retake the WHOLE test again another day. Stringent indeed. -
No idea, I didn't get to see the test result with his name on it (they don't give it to people who passed the test), but I can describe him...Originally posted by Taufiq:who conducted your test?
MSG Wong?
MSG Yeo?
Mr Lee?
Mr Ooi?
Moustache, balding hairline, short, sharp tongue...
"Why are you all standing down there like a prostitute? Go back to the classroom!" He told some of my course mates who lingered in the corridor while waiting for their turn to test.
I heard from some people that he would sweep the mini-cars away with one hand if you failed one scenario. On the other hand, he would pick them up one by one if you managed to pass the scenario... Weird guy... -
Originally posted by pkchukiss:No idea, I didn't get to see the test result with his name on it (they don't give it to people who passed the test), but I can describe him...
Moustache, balding hairline, short, sharp tongue...
"Why are you all standing down there like a prostitute? Go back to the classroom!" He told some of my course mates who lingered in the corridor while waiting for their turn to test.
I heard from some people that he would sweep the mini-cars away with one hand if you failed one scenario. On the other hand, he would pick them up one by one if you managed to pass the scenario... Weird guy...
Mr Krishna....
He passed my driving test leh
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I am feeling a bit sian... ISPC (a.k.a. my jungle hat course) is starting tomorrow. What it means is tons of chiong, pure torture (power PT is the highlight, as my PC puts it), fast marches with camel loads. What's even more satisfying is that I am a quad vocationalist! I am a recce, biker, signaler, and medic all rolled into one... That means I have the heaviest load of them all...
Now I am nursing a broken blister (it still looks black to me, hopefully it will recover before the first chiong session) sustained from my first attempt at fast march (4 km). -
i tot its the guy who can run very fast but got low hp one?Originally posted by pkchukiss:I've just received my e-Posting, and I realised I've been posted to be a scout (Infantry Recee Trooper). Can anyone tell me what it is like, and what kind of training to expect?
I heard that I get to learn ONE mode of transport (jeep or motorcycle), is that true?
Thank you for your help! -
good luck and all the best! sure u can pull through and be proud tt u did it!Originally posted by pkchukiss:I am feeling a bit sian... ISPC (a.k.a. my jungle hat course) is starting tomorrow. What it means is tons of chiong, pure torture (power PT is the highlight, as my PC puts it), fast marches with camel loads. What's even more satisfying is that I am a quad vocationalist! I am a recce, biker, signaler, and medic all rolled into one... That means I have the heaviest load of them all...
Now I am nursing a broken blister (it still looks black to me, hopefully it will recover before the first chiong session) sustained from my first attempt at fast march (4 km). -
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