Medical FAQs @ "No Hospital Specialist Memo, No Talk?!"

• oxford mushroom

  10 Sep 05, 03:19

  Originally posted by letonz:

  hi MO(NS)
  
  i am dignose with very mild mitral valve prolapse by a specialist ( National heart centre) , currently still experiencing chest pain quite frquently. what is my chances of downgrading???
  
  thks

  Hardly likely
• tarutaru

  10 Sep 05, 14:22

  Originally posted by oxford mushroom:

  Hardly likely

  Actually u do get downgrade for MVP but the condition must be quite serious
• oxford mushroom

  10 Sep 05, 15:07

  Originally posted by tarutaru:

  Actually u do get downgrade for MVP but the condition must be quite serious

  ya..mild MVP is far too common to downgrade...like flat feet
• jonalim

  10 Sep 05, 21:52

  dear doctors, jus to ask and carlify
  
  - if a condition is not downgradeable, but servicemen is experiencing distress and discomfort in executing his daily activities as a PES A/B soldier, what can he do?
  
  - Will there be a re-vocation in that case?
  
  -
• tarutaru

  10 Sep 05, 23:42

  Originally posted by jonalim:

  dear doctors, jus to ask and carlify
  
  - if a condition is not downgradeable, but servicemen is experiencing distress and discomfort in executing his daily activities as a PES A/B soldier, what can he do?
  
  - Will there be a re-vocation in that case?
  
  -

  Discomfort as in body or in mind sometimes this happen to the mind when u think u r sick.
  
  As for revocate is allowed only when the servicemen cannot performed to what the necessary need...sometimes only enviroment affect the servicemen
• jonalim

  11 Sep 05, 12:04

  Originally posted by tarutaru:

  Discomfort as in body or in mind sometimes this happen to the mind when u think u r sick.
  
  As for revocate is allowed only when the servicemen cannot performed to what the necessary need...sometimes only enviroment affect the servicemen

  for eg. if a person exp chest pain when run but aft scan and etc, he issn't eligible for downgrade, how is he gg to cope with tat pain and breathlesS?
• tarutaru

  11 Sep 05, 22:31

  Originally posted by jonalim:

  for eg. if a person exp chest pain when run but aft scan and etc, he issn't eligible for downgrade, how is he gg to cope with tat pain and breathlesS?

  Depends on the cause of his chest pain if due to lack of exercise do u think he deserve to be downgraded?
• jonalim

  11 Sep 05, 22:41

  Originally posted by tarutaru:

  Depends on the cause of his chest pain if due to lack of exercise do u think he deserve to be downgraded?

• jonalim

  11 Sep 05, 22:42

  Originally posted by tarutaru:

  Depends on the cause of his chest pain if due to lack of exercise do u think he deserve to be downgraded?

  true true..
  but what if here we are talking abt physical structure, and pain
  
  for eg. the common ones lky Knee pain, ankle, joints, back etc... how do servicemen deal with these discomfort when performing daily tasks?
  
  thanks doctor
• tarutaru

  12 Sep 05, 19:57

  Originally posted by jonalim:

  true true..
  but what if here we are talking abt physical structure, and pain
  
  for eg. the common ones lky Knee pain, ankle, joints, back etc... how do servicemen deal with these discomfort when performing daily tasks?
  
  thanks doctor

  most of these pain are associate to prolong doing certain activities. Most likely when these servicemen report sick occasionally the servicemen would be given Att (B) in order for them to rest but if there are persistence pain over certain area after rest then MO would most likely to be referred to either SPC or a specialist.
• jonalim

  13 Sep 05, 17:45

  doctors, i dunno if you know abt this, some sergeants or commanders really instill fear in their men to report sick etc...
  
  also if aft seeing specialist, the case is not downgradeable, what can the servicemen do?
• tarutaru

  13 Sep 05, 20:26

  Originally posted by jonalim:

  doctors, i dunno if you know abt this, some sergeants or commanders really instill fear in their men to report sick etc...
  
  also if aft seeing specialist, the case is not downgradeable, what can the servicemen do?

  Reporting sick is every servicemen right......
  
  Btw, if after seeing a specialist it is not downgradable u can always seek out second option right even specialist can be wrong. Also I think u should know that even the MB sometimes have difficult cases where they have to put up to a specialist board.
  
  It is your case?
• jonalim

  13 Sep 05, 21:41

  Originally posted by tarutaru:

  Reporting sick is every servicemen right......
  
  Btw, if after seeing a specialist it is not downgradable u can always seek out second option right even specialist can be wrong. Also I think u should know that even the MB sometimes have difficult cases where they have to put up to a specialist board.
  
  It is your case?

  ??? doctor, i dun really get what u mean
  
  what do you mean, and how can i seek second option?
  
  also, recently, medical centre lost my medical docket, what should i do? i gave them call many times already (if this is too sensitive, i can delete this away, and contact thru PM)
  
  another qn is - To what extent SAF MOs practise the values of Professionalism, Ethics, Care for Soldiers when treating servicement? I believe that you have heard /seen cases of 'kenging' and also SAF Doctors treating patients as potential malingerers
• tarutaru

  13 Sep 05, 21:54

  Originally posted by jonalim:

  ??? doctor, i dun really get what u mean
  
  what do you mean, and how can i seek second option?
  
  also, recently, medical centre lost my medical docket, what should i do? i gave them call many times already (if this is too sensitive, i can delete this away, and contact thru PM)
  
  another qn is - To what extent SAF MOs practise the values of Professionalism, Ethics, Care for Soldiers when treating servicement? I believe that you have heard /seen cases of 'kenging' and also SAF Doctors treating patients as potential malingerers

  Losing medical dockets? Thought they already went paces long time ago....by right they have no problem finding your medical history. Even losing the medical docket does not mean it loses your right to report sick.
  
  As for your 2nd qns, SAF MO are trained in profession to be a doctor. Young MO may not have the experience of seeing certain sickness but they can always referred you to some specialist if necessary.....as for all the kengster, MO would know whether this guy is a kengster even the medic also know but this is a secret.
• oxford mushroom

  14 Sep 05, 00:39

  Originally posted by jonalim:

  doctors, i dunno if you know abt this, some sergeants or commanders really instill fear in their men to report sick etc...
  

  Years ago that might be true but not now. I remember in the late 70s the poor chaps in Commandos had to run around the parade square in FBO before they are allowed to see the MO. If they did not come in half dead they were considered malingering.
  
  You might like to know that practice was stopped years ago...
• jonalim

  14 Sep 05, 21:08

  in any case doc, what does
  
  seeking second option means?
• tarutaru

  14 Sep 05, 23:33

  Originally posted by jonalim:

  in any case doc, what does
  
  seeking second option means?

  Find a second specialist
• jonalim

  15 Sep 05, 20:30

  Originally posted by tarutaru:

  Find a second specialist

  but then as u see....even if i see another 100 sepcialists, the dignosis wld be still the same tat perhaps my case is not ' serious enough for downgradable'
  
  in this case, what can i do? that i am feeling pain in my soles and also unable to perform quite a number of activities etc
• hmphie

  30 Sep 05, 12:21

  Dear MO,
  I have acute sinusitis when placed in cold or dust-filled environments and causes severe blackages in the nostrils which forces me to breathe through my mouth. This occurs when the weather turns colder. Does this warrant a downgrade from my current Pes B status? Thanks.
• tarutaru

  30 Sep 05, 21:21

  Originally posted by hmphie:

  Dear MO,
  I have acute sinusitis when placed in cold or dust-filled environments and causes severe blackages in the nostrils which forces me to breathe through my mouth. This occurs when the weather turns colder. Does this warrant a downgrade from my current Pes B status? Thanks.

  Still Pes B
• Shotgun

  9 Oct 05, 03:50

  Got a few questions.
  
  If someone has already ORDed, and he goes on to study medicine o'seas. After returning, will SAF force him to go for some training to be an MO? Or can he live happily ever after without being bothered?
  
  If someone has kena stress injury due to excessive tekan... oops i mean training, but still retains his pes B status, will he still kena combat vocation for his reservist?
• will4

  10 Oct 05, 18:17

  Originally posted by plenoptic:

  Hi there are a few questions that I would like to ask:
  
  - My friend was classified as a "P" case because he was suffering from anxiety. What is a "P" case?
  - Will in appear in the certificate when he ORD? Will it affect his future as a civil servant as well as finding jobs in the public sector?
  - Is it true that only "P" case NS man can downgrade? I have another friend who also suffer depression, but he wasn't downgraded. Why?
  
  Thanks... My friend is really frustrated now and he wants to upgrade his PES. Please help him...

  I think if ur fren is suffering from anxiety, he should not be too worried esp he
  will get a PES status C1 or below. When he ord next time, the certificate is not going show anything detrimental to his future prospect.
  I also pity those servicemen suffering from this kind of illness.
• will4

  10 Oct 05, 18:25

  Originally posted by saabster:

  I will attempt to assist any questions you have. Please do NOT ask the PES status for specific medical conditions. That information is classified and I will NOT post a reply.
  
  Cheers
  CPT NS(DR)

  I have a fren who is downgraded to PES C1 for anxiety before enlistment but he managed to complete his full-time NS peacefully. The person had been on medication for the past seven years.
  He is also excused from range permanently. He is called back for reservist next year n in ur opinion, do u think he should be downgraded further?
  He felt nausea n headpain esp he stopped medication for a few days.
• gnoik

  10 Oct 05, 19:13

  Originally posted by will4:

  I have a fren who is downgraded to PES C1 for anxiety before enlistment but he managed to complete his full-time NS peacefully. The person had been on medication for the past seven years.
  He is also excused from range permanently. He is called back for reservist next year n in ur opinion, do u think he should be downgraded further?
  He felt nausea n headpain esp he stopped medication for a few days.

  Why shld be downgraded further? Since he is excused range = excuse rifle. But he still can chiong rite?
• hrtw

  11 Oct 05, 18:44

  
  
  I got sinus problem ( frequent runny nose, every morning and late afternoon nasal discharge keep on coming out.. hmm everyday using nasal spray) . Then if i am in PES B, and this sinus problem does affect my day to day life while training... what can i do?
  
  Another question: How to check for hearing problem? I think i got hearing problem, most of the time my left and right ear cannot differentiate where the sound originated from. Is there any preliminary medical checks for hearing before my NS checkup?
  
  And lastly, a person with anxiety problem... but not on medication, will he be PES C 1 and below?
  
  Thanks