Medical FAQs @ "No Hospital Specialist Memo, No Talk?!"
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Enlighten me on this-So will a MO be rotated to take on the role of combat medic officer?
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i think we should wait for our in-house MO.Originally posted by BMEngineer:Enlighten me on this-So will a MO be rotated to take on the role of combat medic officer?
but well, as far as i noe, an MO still goes through the normal command, instructional and staff tours.
if im not wrong, MO is a service vocation rather than combat. i guess wat u mean by a combat medical officer is one who goes to the frontlines to treat casualties. i think this depends more on the posting the MO gets. -
Combat MO? Never heard of that.Originally posted by BMEngineer:Enlighten me on this-So will a MO be rotated to take on the role of combat medic officer?
The closest we normally get to the action is at the BCS. This is usually managed by an MOIC And a MO2IC. The fellas collecting casualties from the front line to the BCS are the combat medics.
MOs that are posted to units like commando and Guards will usually go thru their conversion courses. It is not a must but there is usually pressure from the unit CO to do so. Again their primary job is to man a BCS. NOT to fight or collect casualties
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i have some doubts on here:Originally posted by saabster:Another Question
What happens and why am I given PES A or B at CMPB if I have a medical problem. Esp. if I already have specialist letter
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Depends on what your medical condition is. Depends on whether or not your specialist has been black-listed.
There is a secret book which they would refer to to see whether your condition qualifies for a downgrade. It is NOT dependant on the whim and fancy of your MO.
In most cases serious medical problems backedup by appropriate investigations and recommendations by a specialist will NOT be ignored
Don't panic, just enlist and on the first day talk to your PC or OC to get an appointment at the medical center. Bring ALL your documents and investigations to support your medical condition. The MO will either OOC or give you enough light duties to cover you till you are investigated.
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1) from what i know if we developed new conditions or current conditions worsens before enlistment we should bring along the relevant proof to cmpb right?
2) so which option is better? cmpb or tekong?
3) if we tell the mo in enlistment and downgraded eventually should our stay in bmtc be more than 7 weeks? -
If your instructions are to go to CMPB then do it. The advantage of CMPB vs Tekong is that the MOs there have the power to give you an instant downgrade WITHOUT going thru a medical board.
This has the advantage of knowing your PES before enlisting and not going to tekong as a combat fit and then having to bum around as an OOC while waiting for your medical board.
Pes C BMT dunno how long. There is even a PES E BMT. Dunno how long too. The rule to these types of BMTs is that you do nothing much!. The idea is to learn some basic discipline.
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Thanks for your answers...Originally posted by saabster:If your instructions are to go to CMPB then do it. The advantage of CMPB vs Tekong is that the MOs there have the power to give you an instant downgrade WITHOUT going thru a medical board.
This has the advantage of knowing your PES before enlisting and not going to tekong as a combat fit and then having to bum around as an OOC while waiting for your medical board.
Pes C BMT dunno how long. There is even a PES E BMT. Dunno how long too. The rule to these types of BMTs is that you do nothing much!. The idea is to learn some basic discipline.
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However I still got some doubts...
1) If we went to CMPB with medical documents, will we need to return back to CMPB a few days later for a re-check up or we will be told whether we are qualified for a downgrading on the day we bring the medical documents?
2) Although it is of less trouble to go to CMPB, however I have heard that it is easier to downgrade your PES at Tekong even though it is more troublesome. I wan to know whether it is true or not? -
One question to Saabster- Does MO tekan people and do you have any tekaning experience?
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Sorry for the late reply , thanks for answering my question.Originally posted by saabster:Sorry man
It is random.
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1. The decision will not be made on the spot. You will probably need to return again to get your confirmation that you have been downgraded.Originally posted by chikopek:1) If we went to CMPB with medical documents, will we need to return back to CMPB a few days later for a re-check up or we will be told whether we are qualified for a downgrading on the day we bring the medical documents?
2) Although it is of less trouble to go to CMPB, however I have heard that it is easier to downgrade your PES at Tekong even though it is more troublesome. I wan to know whether it is true or not?
2. Should be the same. If you have a case for down grade there is no reason why either place should be different. CMPB might seem more difficult only because they are busy and they might "tai chee" their work to the other medical centers.
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if u r given an excuse(eg. excuse upper limb activities), r u still liable to do the activity when commanders or instructors ask u to?
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of course not. in fact your commanders are not supposed to make u do the activities tt u r excused from. if anything happens, they will have to take full responsibility.Originally posted by BrUtUs:if u r given an excuse(eg. excuse upper limb activities), r u still liable to do the activity when commanders or instructors ask u to? -
excuse upper limb wat...not lower limb..they can ask u go run 5click..Originally posted by BrUtUs:if u r given an excuse(eg. excuse upper limb activities), r u still liable to do the activity when commanders or instructors ask u to? -
thanks for your answer again...Originally posted by saabster:1. The decision will not be made on the spot. You will probably need to return again to get your confirmation that you have been downgraded.
2. Should be the same. If you have a case for down grade there is no reason why either place should be different. CMPB might seem more difficult only because they are busy and they might "tai chee" their work to the other medical centers.
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however, i still got some more questions:
if in cmpb we r classfied as pes b even though u have specialist letter to support your medical problems then in tekong our situation worsens because of bmt ie someone cannot carry heavy things get pes b even though they have medical letter but situations has worsened since occasionally having to carry heavy things in bmt, will they get to down grade or continue to stay in pes b even though the situation worsens?
Another question: Is mo a NS vocations? if so, how to get into mo for NS vocations? -
thanks for your answer again...Originally posted by saabster:1. The decision will not be made on the spot. You will probably need to return again to get your confirmation that you have been downgraded.
2. Should be the same. If you have a case for down grade there is no reason why either place should be different. CMPB might seem more difficult only because they are busy and they might "tai chee" their work to the other medical centers.
Cheers
however, i still got some more questions:
if in cmpb we r classfied as pes b even though u have specialist letter to support your medical problems then in tekong our situation worsens because of bmt ie someone cannot carry heavy things get pes b even though they have medical letter but situations has worsened since occasionally having to carry heavy things in bmt, will they get to down grade or continue to stay in pes b even though the situation worsens?
Another question: Is mo a NS vocations? if so, how to get into mo for NS vocations?
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Hmmm..
You seem to be very concerned about the training at BMT and it's impact on your medical condition.
You have to trust the system, if you have been given PES B then your condition is considered by the SAF to warrant a PES B.
To those that have not done NS:
You must understand that the SAF has a very fixed set of rules as to what can and cannot be downgraded. Having heaps of specialist letters or investigations done will NOT make a difference to your PES status. "But what if something happens" seems to be the next question... Well tough luck, try sueing the SAF. It will be difficult.
That being said, the SAF does put in tremendous effort to take care of their soldiers. If you feel that your condition has worsened in some way which might affect your trainning or health. Highlight it to your MO. They will take the appropriate steps.
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Originally posted by saabster:
thanks for your reply though
Hmmm..
You seem to be very concerned about the training at BMT and it's impact on your medical condition.
You have to trust the system, if you have been given PES B then your condition is considered by the SAF to warrant a PES B.
[b]To those that have not done NS:
You must understand that the SAF has a very fixed set of rules as to what can and cannot be downgraded. Having heaps of specialist letters or investigations done will NOT make a difference to your PES status. "But what if something happens" seems to be the next question... Well tough luck, try sueing the SAF. It will be difficult.
That being said, the SAF does put in tremendous effort to take care of their soldiers. If you feel that your condition has worsened in some way which might affect your trainning or health. Highlight it to your MO. They will take the appropriate steps.
Cheers[/b]
however, there are something that i wan to add.................
it is a real encounter based from my friend:
this friend of mine have some spine disorder n his shoulder (i have back pain problems too only that mine was different from him) and back will get severe pain when carrying heavy objects. when during medical examination he got pes b n he thought that his spine problem is recovered
then after taking the napfa test a few months later he managed to get a silver his back was pain for a whole day but he thought it was only normal backpain so he ignores it.
then a few months later he got enlisted and when he was required to carry heavy things his back and shoulder will get pain after sometime but he bears with it and it had been more and more severe until one day he can't stand it anymore n look for mo........... he was put on ooc then.............
the problems is no that we untrust saf but everyone may have a unique cases....................... no offences -
Originally posted by saabster:
thanks for your reply though
Hmmm..
You seem to be very concerned about the training at BMT and it's impact on your medical condition.
You have to trust the system, if you have been given PES B then your condition is considered by the SAF to warrant a PES B.
[b]To those that have not done NS:
You must understand that the SAF has a very fixed set of rules as to what can and cannot be downgraded. Having heaps of specialist letters or investigations done will NOT make a difference to your PES status. "But what if something happens" seems to be the next question... Well tough luck, try sueing the SAF. It will be difficult.
That being said, the SAF does put in tremendous effort to take care of their soldiers. If you feel that your condition has worsened in some way which might affect your trainning or health. Highlight it to your MO. They will take the appropriate steps.
Cheers[/b]
however, there are something that i wan to add.................
it is a real encounter based from my friend:
this friend of mine have some spine disorder n his shoulder (i have back pain problems too only that mine was different from him) and back will get severe pain when carrying heavy objects. when during medical examination he got pes b n he thought that his spine problem is recovered
then after taking the napfa test a few months later he managed to get a silver his back was pain for a whole day but he thought it was only normal backpain so he ignores it.
then a few months later he got enlisted and when he was required to carry heavy things his back and shoulder will get pain after sometime but he bears with it and it had been more and more severe until one day he can't stand it anymore n look for mo........... he was put on ooc then.............
the problems is no that we untrust saf but everyone may have a unique cases....................... no offences -
No offense taken
I maintain that SAF has a very complete list of problems which can and cannot be downgraded.
Point taken that this book cannot account for all variances, therefore like I mentioned earlier, if a soldier has a condition which is unique then it would be looked at on a case to case basis. -
Ok i have a burning qn...albeit not really regarding SAF.
I have flexible flatfoot (when i stand..it becomes nearly flat, when not, arch can be seen). Whenever i run...i look a little funny coz my foot will angle to the side abt 30 degrees..but no serious pains on knee or foot..and can run normally. Can i ask..does my condition affect my running stamina? Or do i run 'poorly' due to lack of training ?
Thanks.
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hm.. itchy fingers before the real doctor comes.Originally posted by Jazzswing:Ok i have a burning qn...albeit not really regarding SAF.
I have flexible flatfoot (when i stand..it becomes nearly flat, when not, arch can be seen). Whenever i run...i look a little funny coz my foot will angle to the side abt 30 degrees..but no serious pains on knee or foot..and can run normally. Can i ask..does my condition affect my running stamina? Or do i run 'poorly' due to lack of training ?
Thanks.
a feet condition wont affect ur stamina - tt has something to do with ur lungs.
rather, i would think u may inadvertently strain or even injure some other parts of ur legs from running (due to improper posture, unequal weight distribution, some muscles working harder than others, etc) without knowing. -
Oh no...better not..my lungs! I would like to think that i didn't do enough warm-up excercises prior to running...cannot be so serious lah..Originally posted by wuming78:hm.. itchy fingers before the real doctor comes.
a feet condition wont affect ur stamina - tt has something to do with ur lungs.
rather, i would think u may inadvertently strain or even injure some other parts of ur legs from running (due to improper posture, unequal weight distribution, some muscles working harder than others, etc) without knowing.
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Is there anyway the curved spine problem can be solved? I went to the see the chinese doctor after going to SHS for a few checkups with nothing to tell me how I can prevent my condition from worsening. The chinese doctor tell me that if my body relax more then the muscles won't be so tight and cause the spine to be curve a litte.
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i doubt... unless u wan to go for surgeryOriginally posted by 01024G:Is there anyway the curved spine problem can be solved? I went to the see the chinese doctor after going to SHS for a few checkups with nothing to tell me how I can prevent my condition from worsening. The chinese doctor tell me that if my body relax more then the muscles won't be so tight and cause the spine to be curve a litte. -
if ur cobb angle is more than 40 degrees then it requires surgeryOriginally posted by wuming78:i doubt... unless u wan to go for surgery
if ur cobb angle is between 20-40 you may need some treatment
if ur cobb angle is between 10-20 you no need treatment but needs occasionally monitoring ur spine
if ur cobb angle is below 10 then you are not consider having scoilosis -
All spines are cruved a little right? Curved spine means curved horisontal or vertical kind of curve?
