Medical FAQs @ "No Hospital Specialist Memo, No Talk?!"
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well.. i certainly do not know of the pressures implicit or explicit the management has applied.Originally posted by the Bear:if you only knew the extent of the "problems" with medical leave...
how else would the organisation's No.1 come to have a "dialogue" with the staff, tell us he has no agenda and in the same breath keep harping on the medical leave...
then how else could you explain the fact that those who were on medical leave "sporadically" or "short-term MC" for over a certain unsaid limit were deprived of their performance bonus no matter how well they worked...
maybe it was a matter of his own decisions.. but i knew him since i joined the organisation in '96... he was no malingerer, and he worked hard.. maybe a little too hard and he tried to give more than he could in order to earn that bonus... and paid for it with his life...
sadly, we in the team, know... his family knows... but the management seems totally oblivious... and continues to squeeze us...
yes i agree then that the management has to blame for creating being insensitive, for creating such a lousy work environment, for being lousy bosses, etc etc. they should be removed for being incompetent in that sense. and any of the staff have the right and in fact the responsibility to make these known to even higher authorities. i would be surprised tt people havent started resigning.
but i don't think all these should justify a direct link between the unfortunate incident and the management. indirectly, perhaps. -
maybe not... but i have spoken out... asked a simple question: are the management doctors more qualified than the doctors themselves? or are they just being slavedrivers?
i was not even given any attention...
well, now we have enforced overtime for junior officers... a boon for some and a bane for others.... used to be able to trade mutually... so that some who want and are able to do it, can take over from those who do not want to... that simple arrangement has been taken away...
so some who cannot handle the enforced OT (it'll be a 14 hour shift! and during the most hectic and busy times!) will fall ill... and they get questioned again..
it's a vicious cycle... one i questioned... and one totally ignored by the management...
it's sad...Originally posted by wuming78:well.. i certainly do not know of the pressures implicit or explicit the management has applied.
yes i agree then that the management has to blame for creating being insensitive, for creating such a lousy work environment, for being lousy bosses, etc etc. they should be removed for being incompetent in that sense. and any of the staff have the right and in fact the responsibility to make these known to even higher authorities. i would be surprised tt people havent started resigning.
but i don't think all these should justify a direct link between the unfortunate incident and the management. indirectly, perhaps. -
My condolences to the family of the deceased.
However it is difficult to comment on the case you had presented without knowing all the facts. It is really important to know exactly what the patient presented to the doctor for. IF there were signs of stroke like weakness and numbness, well then more should have been done besides issuing a 1 day MC. However if the presentation was a simple headache and a raised BP, then a day's MC is not unreasonable. Usually advise would be given to visit you establishments own Drs for followup.
I don;t think I have answered your question adequately but like I said before it is difficult to comment without knowing all the facts
Saabster -
Hi guys,
I've read the previous posts and thought I'd join in... I was an NSF MO until fairly recently (I believe junior to Saabster) and would be happy to help answer some questions...
I, too shall remain anonymous, seeing as I was once a Tekong MO!!!
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hello! welcome to sgforums, and welcome to the SAF forum! hope u njoy ur stay here!Originally posted by 3Bar:Hi guys,
I've read the previous posts and thought I'd join in... I was an NSF MO until fairly recently (I believe junior to Saabster) and would be happy to help answer some questions...
I, too shall remain anonymous, seeing as I was once a Tekong MO!!!
u would have realise by now that there are lots of threads on att C, OOC, downgrading, upgrading, report sick procedures, pes grading, etc etc in the forum. now that u r here u can help relieve saabster's load in answering them. -
Tekong MO...... Hmm the most hated MO in the SAF!!! Just joking!Originally posted by 3Bar:Hi guys,
I, too shall remain anonymous, seeing as I was once a Tekong MO!!!
Well then you definitely will be able to help the guys with questions better than myself.
Welcome again and thanks for joining!
Cheers
Saabster -
i had an encounter with one tekong mo who chased me out from the consultation room just after 90 seconds
his rank is oct -
Oh yes.Me too.That OCT was quite rightly derided by many because he failed to note certain simple and straightforward physical and medical problems that was clearly outlined in the specialist memos.I hope he's more educated and experienced now, it would be a waste of a medical degree, not to mention the money spent on training him.Hopefully, professionalism and clear judgement will be his forte now.Wish him all the best.
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i will never forget that oct as he is the worst doctors i have ever seen
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i know this is from page 1 but ermOriginally posted by saabster:Wow deep!!
How to answer....
No i do not and i am sure other do not advocate working sick. I mean it really depends on what the illness is and what job you are doing.
For example if you have a sprained ankle. By definition you are not well. But if you do a desk job then you theorectically could continue your job with minimal problems. But if you had a sprained ankole and work as a labourer then it might warrant an MC. I hope you know what I mean
Cheers
i suppose waht u mean is that, how long an MC is depends on how much yr sickness/injury affects yr work?
btw i frequently suffer from knee, ankle pains. occasional gout in my ankles. for my knees it sort of pains in diff locations, sometimes it's the bone,ligaments or the fluid(cant remember the name) between the joints.
then occasionally i get back pains too.
my question is, where and when do i tell my MO or somebody tat i have these problems ( i am not trying to keng NS, just that i dont want to do things that aggrevates my cond) if i go for specialist to review my probs, when must it be done? these problems dont happen all the time but sometimes it's actually quite painful... -
A note about OCTs...
OCTs are kind of like LOBO MOs... either waiting for MOCC to convert to CPT, or just serving out the balance of their NS (short-liability disruptees). Most have the same civilian clinical experience as the CPTs, but may be short on SAF-specific medical practice.
Tekong is a special place (I'm sure you all know that!). PTMC is a big medical centre, so it is a good place to put new OCTs, where they can be supervised. It is also a good place to put MOs who need more supervision than others (feel free to read between the lines).
So, sorry, this means that some Tekong MOs are really great, and a few are "special cases" that can't be placed in solo medical centres!
BTW, we also place these special cases in SCDF and Police... be grateful! -
Doc,
I have a cousin with overactive bladder so what pes status will that condition confer? -
Re: Overactive Bladder
I will assume you mean urinary frequency (i.e. he has to go to the toilet a lot more often than other people). It really depends just how much of a problem his frequency is, and whether it is a permanent or temporary problem.
The main question is: is it so bad that he cannot be deployed in the field like other soliders?
Obviously I can't (and won't) give you the PES status, but if the answer to the main question is definitely yes, then he might be given a non-combat vocation. Maybe.
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no offences to mo but will the mo force someone who haven't recovered from his injury to recourse bmt as tekong mo sounds like forcing u to do even though u can't do it?
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err someone reply to my question?
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such problems are chronic. hence there is no right time to ask to see your MO or a specialist. you can do so anytime. in fact if the condition is real and serious, prolonging this may cause more harm than good.Originally posted by bismarck:i know this is from page 1 but erm
i suppose waht u mean is that, how long an MC is depends on how much yr sickness/injury affects yr work?
btw i frequently suffer from knee, ankle pains. occasional gout in my ankles. for my knees it sort of pains in diff locations, sometimes it's the bone,ligaments or the fluid(cant remember the name) between the joints.
then occasionally i get back pains too.
my question is, where and when do i tell my MO or somebody tat i have these problems ( i am not trying to keng NS, just that i dont want to do things that aggrevates my cond) if i go for specialist to review my probs, when must it be done? these problems dont happen all the time but sometimes it's actually quite painful... -
doctor,
my cousin has a imparied hearing problem.his right ear has no ear drum and is still currently seeing the specialist at mount elizabeth hopsital.his ear cannot let water go in also.may i know what pes status he might get? or what vocation he is most likely to get?
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Hi Bismarck,
I have seen several chronic cases like yours, that might not seem very obvious at first glance. I like to keep updated on the problem on afternoon reviews etc, sometimes a problem like this needs to be watched, because:
1. It might just resolve itself
2. The MO can see a pattern of pain/debilitation over time
I can't tell you when and where to report sick - that's really up to you. But if you are concerned, do go and give a clear account of what's been happening. -
if i have chronic back and shoulder pain due to mild scoliosis (12 degrees), will i be temp or permanent downgraded?
from what i noe, they can't downgrade me on my scoliosis as it is too mild to get downgraded but will they downgrade me (either temp or perm) based on the pain that causes it?
the most crucical part is -- i will get sharp pain when i carry heavy loads
oso, i m not trying to keng or anything like that, i onli wan to understand more on my case -
dont worry they will downgrade you.
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so what pes will i be downgraded to?Originally posted by antoh:dont worry they will downgrade you.
n will i be temperarory or permanently downgraded? -
i think realli, only an MO can tell u, and only after taking a look at ur condition.Originally posted by ah-soh:so what pes will i be downgraded to?
n will i be temperarory or permanently downgraded?
our in-house MOs? -
Hi Ah-Soh,
I can't tell you if you'll get any downgrade without examining you... Sorry! -
Is there anyway to strengthen the parts that are injured before (eg. sprained ankle, wrist, elbow)?
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hi do they have the Daonil 5mg pills in all the camp or have to call the MO to get it?