Originally posted by Harley wu:Hi Mo,
It has been 6 years since I've ORD. My vocation is a TPT SUPVR (MT 3SG), I'm currently serving my first ICT and we'll be going outfield this Monday. My current PES is C2L2 perm. I was downgraded due to a freak accident while riding a bicycle which resulted in the my ACL being severed (80%), I underwent a open knee surgery 8 years ago. I have do not want to be outprocessed after already spending a week preparing, so I'll go through the outfield so that there's at least 1 high key in the books.
I am planning to downgrade to a L3 status so that I do not have to climb up and down the massive 5 tonner trucks as well as perform various fire-movements. I'm pretty sure I'll be able to get this status and possibly have my vocation revoked (since I can't drive these trucks). My question is I'm hoping to get a C9L3 but I'm not sure what warrents this status?
Could you help explain?
Thank you so very much.
-17 stiches
pls seek a govt/private hospital specialist consultation review 1st, and get a specialist letter/memo/report b4 booking a medical review with ur designated reservist medical centre via the ehealth module in www.ns.sg under the NSman tab.
u will be considered for further downgrade only if ur lower limbs reflex movements (measured in degrees and angles, and "power" strength scale) is decreased further more after the last reflex records in the medical docket kept by medical centre. similiarly, u only need to get a new deeper degree specs, when ur vision degrees further deteriorate, right?
u need to spend some money for see a specialist, get a specialist letter 1st.
Originally posted by 3558:hi
i got this status excuse Grenades & Explosives permanently. would like to know with this status,can i be excuse live firing since it dealing with explosive
not possible, as there is specific range excuse clearly stated for medical board mc.. e.g. excuse range. excuse firing arms.
u can only clarify with the unit medical centre mo, if u r called up for range excercise.
Originally posted by Roof^:Hi MO,
I OOCed from BSLC SISPEC in APR 07 due to Pneumonia. I got my 6 months temp PES E9L9 status in MAY 07 and subsequently got posted out to another unit as a clerk. I have been doing well in my new unit and my performance is valued by my superiors.
However, the problem is that my temp PES E9L9 status had long expired in NOV 07. As I was also not called up for any PES status review, my superiors advised me not to go to any medical reviews as they do not want to risk losing manpower during this busy period and the unit is already short of hands. Thus, I forsee that a greater problem will arise when i ORD in NOV this year. I think I will be most probably upgraded back to PES A or B(usually for pneumonia cases from what i heard, is that true?) when i go for my FFI before ORD. If that's the case, I will be most probably be posted to a combat unit for my ICTs. My concern is that I cannot assimilate with the new combat unit as I had only been through combat training for a mere 3 months of my NSF life. I am worried that I will be a liability due to the lack of combat skills and experience.
Please advise on what should I do, and is there such thing as remaining as a clerk vocation after being upgraded to PES A or B? Sorry for the lengthy post and hope you can enlighten me on the matter. Thank you very much.
~Cheers and Regards~
if ur health condition is already stablised and consider fully/almost near recovered by the medical board, u will be upgraded upon ord. and likely to be post out.
u can still continue ur clerk vocation until ord, as ur superiors urged u too. (see, another typical admin lapse). all i can say is that ur current department can liaise with the unit s1 manpower br and the chief clerk to support the posting whether nsf/reservist to be within ur reservist hq doing clerk-like vocation. chief clerk/manpower officer have the power to retain u, b4 providing anything to the cpc for reservist posting.
Thanks so much eac. :) Its a great illustration you gave, spectacles and vision. The knee's gotten worse, I guess no choice but to spend some money on this.
Originally posted by eac:
if ur health condition is already stablised and consider fully/almost near recovered by the medical board, u will be upgraded upon ord. and likely to be post out.u can still continue ur clerk vocation until ord, as ur superiors urged u too. (see, another typical admin lapse). all i can say is that ur current department can liaise with the unit s1 manpower br and the chief clerk to support the posting whether nsf/reservist to be within ur reservist hq doing clerk-like vocation. chief clerk/manpower officer have the power to retain u, b4 providing anything to the cpc for reservist posting.
Thanks for the prompt reply eac. So I should just ignore my expired temp PES status first until I ord then upgrade?From what I understood from ur reply, it is possible to remain doing a clerk like vocation in my current unit as a NS Men( yep, my current unit is made up of more NS men than active personnel) if my chief clerk supports it, despite being upgraded to PES A or B? Hope you can clarify. Thank you lots.
~Regards~
Originally posted by Roof^:Thanks for the prompt reply eac. So I should just ignore my expired temp PES status first until I ord then upgrade?From what I understood from ur reply, it is possible to remain doing a clerk like vocation in my current unit as a NS Men( yep, my current unit is made up of more NS men than active personnel) if my chief clerk supports it, despite being upgraded to PES A or B? Hope you can clarify. Thank you lots.
~Regards~
yes.
does owren's disease warrant a pes f?
y dun u ask ur doc ?
MO does listen to ur doctor's opinion .
blood disorder .
Is there a illness that does nt have guidelines in saf classification system ?
all illness r looked into by a case by case basis right ?
Originally posted by stolid:does owren's disease warrant a pes f?
i have never seen this case during my ns time, but all i can say is that there are also several pple with blood disorders who r graded pes e range.
opps , wrong post
Originally posted by eac:
i have never seen this case during my ns time, but all i can say is that there are also several pple with blood disorders who r graded pes e range.
if thats that case, how do they actually review my condition due to the rarity of it. is there a board meeting? and how do i find a doctor that can give a second opinion about my condition?
Originally posted by stolid:if thats that case, how do they actually review my condition due to the rarity of it. is there a board meeting? and how do i find a doctor that can give a second opinion about my condition?
when u report for medical checkup at cmpb, give the attending mo all supporting documents like your medical reports, specialist letters, lab test results...etc.
if the supporting documents r sufficient, u will be given the pes grade on the spot.
already in effect in 2007, all pre enlistees r tested for hiv at cmpb, compulsory blood test.
however, if the mo wants to do another blood test since its a blood discorder, then later that day u will kena draw blood at cmpb. since if pes grade cant be given on the spot, u r given a initial pes D grade, indicating the lab test result pending. after which, a few weeks later, u will be informed of ur final official pes via post.
if u want a second opinion, then u have to make a request via ur own hospital thru ur specialist doctor..
Hi all
I've got a question here. I've just been diagnosed as having 'excessive lateral pressure syndrome'. However I still have to go back for my annual reservist training. Nonetheless, the specialist has written me a memo to be submitted to the MO.
Question here. What will be the next course of action by the MO? Any similar experience to share?
Thanks.
Originally posted by eac:
when u report for medical checkup at cmpb, give the attending mo all supporting documents like your medical reports, specialist letters, lab test results...etc.
if the supporting documents r sufficient, u will be given the pes grade on the spot.
already in effect in 2007, all pre enlistees r tested for hiv at cmpb, compulsory blood test.
however, if the mo wants to do another blood test since its a blood discorder, then later that day u will kena draw blood at cmpb. since if pes grade cant be given on the spot, u r given a initial pes D grade, indicating the lab test result pending. after which, a few weeks later, u will be informed of ur final official pes via post.
if u want a second opinion, then u have to make a request via ur own hospital thru ur specialist doctor..
thanks eac. that was really helpful. anyway i've been into service for 6 months. im actually given e9l9. jus wondering if if that disorder can be a F. cos i feel like they're using me as cheap labour.
Originally posted by stolid:thanks eac. that was really helpful. anyway i've been into service for 6 months. im actually given e9l9. jus wondering if if that disorder can be a F. cos i feel like they're using me as cheap labour.
... i felt since u r already pes e9l9... whats more can u ask... the saf medical board already certified ur condition as pes e9l9, then thats the best official pes u can get... for blood disorder, one that warrants a pes f is blood cancer (Leukemia). and another big plus is that, u have no reservist after u ord...
if u r considering urself cheap labour... then those combatants are even worse, so to speak... term 'slavery'... no amount of so called combat allowance is enough...
Originally posted by Reservist:Hi all
I've got a question here. I've just been diagnosed as having 'excessive lateral pressure syndrome'. However I still have to go back for my annual reservist training. Nonetheless, the specialist has written me a memo to be submitted to the MO.
Question here. What will be the next course of action by the MO? Any similar experience to share?
Thanks
Originally posted by Reservist:Hi eac
Thanks for your reply. How do I know if it's eligible? Is there some guideline?
The specialist told me I'll be on physio for the time being. If all things fail, an operation is in order.
u will be given a temporary mc for the upcoming ict period if u tell the mo abt it, and if u r deduced by the mo to be eligible for downgrade, ur case will be put on pending kiv for medical board meet, it all depends on what the specialist wrote to the saf mo.
the condition u having i cant give u much help, do ur own research... wikipedia it...
the guidelines is of cos the 'pes bible', kept under lock and key by the mo in the medical centre.
Hi eac
Thanks for your reply. How do I know if it's eligible? Is there some guideline?
The specialist told me I'll be on physio for the time being. If all things fail, an operation is in order.
I did a search on google..but couldn't really determine if it's serious or not.
Here's a summary I've obtained:
An excessively tight lateral retinaculum pulls the kneecap over toward the outside of the knee, creating excessive pressure between the lateral aspect of the patella and the lateral femur. This in turn may cause premature breakdown of the articular (joint surface) cartilage there. This type of malalignment syndrome is known as "ELPS" or excessive lateral pressure syndrome
I wonder how does saf view such conditions?
Originally posted by Reservist:I did a search on google..but couldn't really determine if it's serious or not.
Here's a summary I've obtained:
An excessively tight lateral retinaculum pulls the kneecap over toward the outside of the knee, creating excessive pressure between the lateral aspect of the patella and the lateral femur. This in turn may cause premature breakdown of the articular (joint surface) cartilage there. This type of malalignment syndrome is known as "ELPS" or excessive lateral pressure syndrome
I wonder how does saf view such conditions?
the closest case i ever read during my ns time is a guy boarded as c2l2 perm for open knee surgery for some knee replacement operation.
Hi eac,
I need your inputs, please. I got into a minor accident in camp 2 months ago, something really heavy fell on my left's last finger, had some fracture and stiches done, I have been given 3 months mc. The thing is, my left's last finger cannot be straightened, the angle of the palm to the tip of that finger is only 80 degrees max, and it hurts when I use my left hand (can't even do a push up without screaming).
I wish to know what PES status will I be receiving. Am now in a infantry unit, any chances of getting posted out?
Thanks.
Originally posted by ClarkKent:Hi eac,
I need your inputs, please. I got into a minor accident in camp 2 months ago, something really heavy fell on my left's last finger, had some fracture and stiches done, I have been given 3 months mc. The thing is, my left's last finger cannot be straightened, the angle of the palm to the tip of that finger is only 80 degrees max, and it hurts when I use my left hand (can't even do a push up without screaming).
I wish to know what PES status will I be receiving. Am now in a infantry unit, any chances of getting posted out?
Thanks.
the pinky finger is considered to be a very small percentage based on permanent disability. thus, most cases is boarded as c1 range, dependable on severity inputs based on a specialist report. such small minor injury will not attribute for a post out. at most internal transfer within camp.
if u injuried ur pinky finger in camp while doing an authorised duty/job/event, u can file an injury report thru the s1 branch chief clerk to review whether u can get a monetary compensation dependable on the permanent disablility percentage of the workmen compensation based on the laws of MOM. and if approved as an service injury, u r awarded a service injury card whereby u can bill all the bills of govt hospital treatment/hospitalisation to the saf even after u ord for life.
Originally posted by eac:
the pinky finger is considered to be a very small percentage based on permanent disability. thus, most cases is boarded as c1 range, dependable on severity inputs based on a specialist report. such small minor injury will not attribute for a post out. at most internal transfer within camp.
if u injuried ur pinky finger in camp while doing an authorised duty/job/event, u can file an injury report thru the s1 branch chief clerk to review whether u can get a monetary compensation dependable on the permanent disablility percentage of the workmen compensation based on the laws of MOM. and if approved as an service injury, u r awarded a service injury card whereby u can bill all the bills of govt hospital treatment/hospitalisation to the saf even after u ord for life.
thanks for the fast reply. I'm actually a rifleman; so dealing with both hands is a must, does my injury warrant a C9 status? What about the L code? do you know of the possible vocations switch?
Hi eac , i am currently suffering from psoriasis , and my face is scarred by pimple , undergoing treatment for my face now , and i got medicine for my psoriasis , but sometimes when i apply the medicine , the rash will be gone , but after a few days , it will come back again. And i have my medical last year oct 5 at cmpb , and the MO still gives me a pes B , may i ask , what if i got into a combat vocation and my face and psoriasis at my body acts up? and what if the MO says that my condition is not serious enough? because my psoriasis cause some itchiness sometimes. Hope to hear a reply soon. Thank you.
Originally posted by Resentment:Hi eac , i am currently suffering from psoriasis , and my face is scarred by pimple , undergoing treatment for my face now , and i got medicine for my psoriasis , but sometimes when i apply the medicine , the rash will be gone , but after a few days , it will come back again. And i have my medical last year oct 5 at cmpb , and the MO still gives me a pes B , may i ask , what if i got into a combat vocation and my face and psoriasis at my body acts up? and what if the MO says that my condition is not serious enough? because my psoriasis cause some itchiness sometimes. Hope to hear a reply soon. Thank you.
My friend also have this condition. But his psoriasis happen throughout his body and it's really painful and itchy for him. He's given a pes within the C range. If your psoriasis is really serious, you should consult higher medical advice like consult a specialist. If the specialist suggest downpes, most likely the MO will put you up for medical board and the medical board will then decide.
Just sound out if you're feeling uncomfortable and then request to see the MO if necessary. You cannot be refuse medical treatment no matter what. That's what my MP friend and MO friend said.
mine is still on those mild stage , now i apply medicine , and the rash have already gone , but it will come back after a while. , i really worried it will act up , and some MO are those fuck up kind , and they will think i chao geng or sth.