Leg Injury

• chip and dale

  5 Jun 04, 18:19

  hi ,
  
  hope the pros can help me with my problem , i`ll be enlisting soon for ptp but i still carry a leg and knee injury from running . went to doctor for xrays but he say my bones all right despite me telling him it`s my muscle that hurts , he kept saying "you are ok , or u want MRI scan?"
  
  but i stll feel pain standing , stair climbing , squatting in particular .
  
  my question is i don`t have any proof so what i should do ? do i tell my mo during my ptp ?will i be look upon as chao kenging?
  
  hope for a speedy reply , thanks for any help
• chikopek

  5 Jun 04, 18:25

  are the doctors u see is a polyclinic doctor right? if that's the case i suggest u go and look for a specialist......
  
  polyclinic doctors r not specialised in that area n wat they only know is claiming that u r fine.......
• wuming78

  6 Jun 04, 10:14

  Originally posted by chip and dale:

  hi ,
  
  hope the pros can help me with my problem , i`ll be enlisting soon for ptp but i still carry a leg and knee injury from running . went to doctor for xrays but he say my bones all right despite me telling him it`s my muscle that hurts , he kept saying "you are ok , or u want MRI scan?"
  
  but i stll feel pain standing , stair climbing , squatting in particular .
  
  my question is i don`t have any proof so what i should do ? do i tell my mo during my ptp ?will i be look upon as chao kenging?
  
  hope for a speedy reply , thanks for any help

  where is ur injury and when was it incurred? could it be a muscle tear, or something with ur ligaments or tendons - hence not the bones? did you ask the doctor then wat is causing the pain? cos pain is a signal that something is wrong with the body.
  
  if the doctor is not helpful, change one. if that is not possible, wait to see the MO when u enlist.
• chip and dale

  6 Jun 04, 16:42

  thanks for the replys
  
  the doctor i saw was a orthopist at TTH(spelt wrong?) , to me it was a big disappointment cause i waited 3mths for him then i went inside for 10minutes , he say my bones nothing wrong , despite me asking him about muscle tear .
  
  one of my runner friends say my condition he suffer before , it`s called runner`s knee so x-ray can`t see ..
  
  so now worried , cause going in army soon and i know most MOs are GPs so they also won`t understand..
  
  i dun mind the training (haha , i LOVE running ) but with my leg like this , just worried about the training
  
  thanks for any help
• antoh

  6 Jun 04, 16:43

  answered
• sgboy2004

  6 Jun 04, 16:46

  see specialist... go private if u need to...
• ah-soh

  6 Jun 04, 18:16

  Originally posted by sgboy2004:

  see specialist... go private if u need to...

  I agree with sgboy2004.
  
  Private doctors are better when handling such cases and luckily I have a good orthopaeedic specialist who is a private doctor in a private hospital.
  
  I have one more suggestions though -- Try not to see general partitioners like those doctors in polyclinics when you have such problems as they have not much knowledge in that just like what Chikopek had said early in the thread.
• chip and dale

  6 Jun 04, 20:11

  hi
  
  thank you for the answers , yah i think maybe i should see a private doctor
  
  but i`m going into ptp next week , will i get a chance to tell the MO about the condition?
• ah-soh

  6 Jun 04, 21:10

  Originally posted by chip and dale:

  hi
  
  thank you for the answers , yah i think maybe i should see a private doctor
  
  but i`m going into ptp next week , will i get a chance to tell the MO about the condition?

  Same as you, I also attempts to tell the MO about my spine deformity.
  
  However, I worries that the MOs in Tekong will be like their counterparts in CMPB -- They will ignore it even though there are specialist's letter and X Rays to prove that you can't do certain things.
• wuming78

  6 Jun 04, 21:23

  Originally posted by chip and dale:

  hi
  
  thank you for the answers , yah i think maybe i should see a private doctor
  
  but i`m going into ptp next week , will i get a chance to tell the MO about the condition?

  yes u will.
• wuming78

  6 Jun 04, 21:25

  Originally posted by ah-soh:

  Same as you, I also attempts to tell the MO about my spine deformity.
  
  However, I worries that the MOs in Tekong will be like their counterparts in CMPB -- They will ignore it even though there are specialist's letter and X Rays to prove that you can't do certain things.

  i dont think all of u should worry too much if u haf a genuine medical condition. the MO is putting his professional career on the line if he chooses to ignore a specialist letter without rhyme or reason. should anything happen to u he can kiss his career and all the years spent in med school goodbye.
• chikopek

  6 Jun 04, 22:02

  Originally posted by wuming78:

  i dont think all of u should worry too much if u haf a genuine medical condition. the MO is putting his professional career on the line if he chooses to ignore a specialist letter without rhyme or reason. should anything happen to u he can kiss his career and all the years spent in med school goodbye.

  hmm....... it seems like those cmpb mo r putting their professional career on the line
• wuming78

  6 Jun 04, 22:11

  Originally posted by chikopek:

  hmm....... it seems like those cmpb mo r putting their professional career on the line

  i wont jump to any conclusions without knowing the full story. anyway its their careers at stake - on a day to day basis. they should noe wat to do and wat not to do.
• ah-soh

  6 Jun 04, 23:43

  Originally posted by wuming78:

  i wont jump to any conclusions without knowing the full story. anyway its their careers at stake - on a day to day basis. they should noe wat to do and wat not to do.

  But to be frank, I was pissed off by the CMPB MO during the day I requested for medical review...
• Patrik

  7 Jun 04, 00:28

  Cmpb all cock u one lah.....
  
• saabster

  7 Jun 04, 09:44

  Making generalizations against MOs are not fair. There are those that are on the ball and those that do the minimum to get by. The same as any other vocation.
  
  Critisizing government doctors is also not fair. They do have limited time and resources. Of course you can always go to see a private specialist. Consult alone about $100, MRI about $700-800. Now you get the picture.
  
  As for your leg problem.... is it a knee, lower leg or upper leg problem? Muscle problem tend to heal quickly. Tendons take a long time and bones even longer. If you describe your problems accurately, maybe i can assist you with your next step
  
  Cheers
• chip and dale

  7 Jun 04, 12:59

  hi again
  
  my leg injury`s been with me for close to 4mths ,was training for my half-marathorn when i got the pain. i experience pain when squatting especailly with the bending of my knee at 90 degrees
  
  i also experience a very tight feeling when i do a hamstring curl in the gym , the feeling is usually so tight , i can`t even curl the thing up at the lightest weight
  
  also can hear "noise" in my knee when i move my kneecaps , sometimes a pop sound can be heard if i stretch my legs
  
  actually , i`m worried , mainly because i don`t have any letter to prove my injury , cause i don`t come from a well to do family that can pay for all the medical fees so i i just try to bear the pain and hope to get better..
  
  thanks for any help
  
  
• saabster

  8 Jun 04, 14:42

  Your pain.... Is it in the front of the knee or is it towards the side. You were saying something bout a pop when you move your knee cap.... Try doing it again.... do you have a gritty feeling when you do?
  
  Any swelling of the knee when you go for a run? Have you had any previous injury to the knee before?
  
  Try to answer the questions so I can have a more accurate idea. But from what I gather you might have CMP. Basically this is because of over use and the spacing between the kneecap and the knee is reduce leading to increased friction and therefore pain on activity.
  
  If you indeed have such a problem, you will be temp downgrade for about 6 months after confirming with an XRay.
  
  Cheers
  
• wuming78

  8 Jun 04, 14:54

  Originally posted by saabster:

  Your pain.... Is it in the front of the knee or is it towards the side. You were saying something bout a pop when you move your knee cap.... Try doing it again.... do you have a gritty feeling when you do?
  
  Any swelling of the knee when you go for a run? Have you had any previous injury to the knee before?
  
  Try to answer the questions so I can have a more accurate idea. But from what I gather you might have CMP. Basically this is because of over use and the spacing between the kneecap and the knee is reduce leading to increased friction and therefore pain on activity.
  
  If you indeed have such a problem, you will be temp downgrade for about 6 months after confirming with an XRay.
  
  Cheers
  

  my knee also pain from time to time - front and side. and pop sounds are so common. and i know when my knee will pop and how to make it pop - and it feels rather good after a pop!
• chip and dale

  8 Jun 04, 15:42

  Originally posted by saabster:

  Your pain.... Is it in the front of the knee or is it towards the side. You were saying something bout a pop when you move your knee cap.... Try doing it again.... do you have a gritty feeling when you do?
  
  Any swelling of the knee when you go for a run? Have you had any previous injury to the knee before?
  
  Try to answer the questions so I can have a more accurate idea. But from what I gather you might have CMP. Basically this is because of over use and the spacing between the kneecap and the knee is reduce leading to increased friction and therefore pain on activity.
  
  If you indeed have such a problem, you will be temp downgrade for about 6 months after confirming with an XRay.
  
  Cheers
  

  hi , thanks for replying
  
  yah i have a gritty feeling and the kneecap is rather tender ,.the pain is more towards the behind of the kneecap.
  
  i didn`t have any problems before with my knee and this is the first time it`s injured ,..
  
  ic , may i ask what do you mean by a temp downgrade , i`m Pes A now and enlisting in 3 days..haha
• wuming78

  8 Jun 04, 15:56

  Originally posted by chip and dale:

  hi , thanks for replying
  
  yah i have a gritty feeling and the kneecap is rather tender ,.the pain is more towards the behind of the kneecap.
  
  i didn`t have any problems before with my knee and this is the first time it`s injured ,..
  
  ic , may i ask what do you mean by a temp downgrade , i`m Pes A now and enlisting in 3 days..haha

  downgrade for tt period of time, after wich the status will be determined by a med review.
• saabster

  8 Jun 04, 20:46

  You have CMP..... Chondromalaciae patellae. It results from overuse. Difficult to prove, easy to make clinical diagnosis. A side X ray of you knee will show the problem. It is considered by the SAF not to be long term so you will be given a temp downgrade. Let the MO know of your problem. They will take it from there
  
  Cheers
• chip and dale

  8 Jun 04, 23:04

  hi again
  
  ic , thanks alot for the reply , i`ll tell the MO when i enlist , but if i`m temp downgrade then he re-upgrade me , won`t that mean i may need to retake my BMT if i get downgraded to pes c or sth?
  
• saabster

  9 Jun 04, 00:50

  Yes you will have to do a BMT recourse when your condition has improved
  
  Cheers
• chip and dale

  10 Jun 04, 00:59

  hi again
  
  thank you very much for answering my questions , i`m by nature someone who hate to waste time , i`m wondering if you would advise againist me not telling the MO about my condition and try to "tough" it out?
  
  i was considering a career in the army in the logistics sector , if i declared my injured leg , would that equal a lower chance of joining the army?
  
  thanks alot for all the help by answering my questions , really helped me alot..thanks