Recruits getting $500!
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not fair
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hmm...
always kanna bluff by SAF one ..say increase increase ... this and that ... end up still back to square one ...tmd..
dun really believe them liao..
if got means bonus bah ...
dun have life still goes on..
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Wahh!! I just came back from disruption. sTill have 5 mths of NS to serve. Good news
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I guess the news is false... no news yet..
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u guys the units didnt say anything?
any1 from 41SAR?
my fren BMT there now then he tell me he this week getting $500 liaoz lehz...
then my tekong frens tell me is post to unit liaoz then recruits/privates get $500.
any official news yet?
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hmmm .. how sure are u on tat???
some say have some say dont have... who can confirm ? -
I noticed its mainly coming out from the SAR units..sounds strange...Hope there is something concrete soon.Originally posted by tetsumi:u guys the units didnt say anything?
any1 from 41SAR?
my fren BMT there now then he tell me he this week getting $500 liaoz lehz...
then my tekong frens tell me is post to unit liaoz then recruits/privates get $500.
any official news yet? -
Source I heard:
MEN/SPECIALISTS: add $150
OFFICERS: add $300 to $400
For the men/specialists' increment, it's likely confirm. My frd heard it from his CO parade already, but the amount isnt confirm.
As for the officers' increment, I have no idea. They shouldnt increase the officers allowance. Becos there are too many of black sheeps among them whom are doing nothing except wasting SAF resources -
wah... officers increase so much?!Originally posted by edLow:Source I heard:
MEN/SPECIALISTS: add $150
OFFICERS: add $300 to $400
For the men/specialists' increment, it's likely confirm. My frd heard it from his CO parade already, but the amount isnt confirm.
As for the officers' increment, I have no idea. They shouldnt increase the officers allowance. Becos there are too many of black sheeps among them whom are doing nothing except wasting SAF resources
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When the dust settles, as usual , the only recipients are the combat fellas.Not to be bitter, but there is always this skewed perception that service do not deserve anything over their vocation itself.
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The service do lots of shit... I do lots of shit.. and combat have already got their combat pay.. me is so going to write to the straits times for this...
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This is so unfair. Inflation has not worked in the same direction. This has done great discredit to the services of former nsf like myself.
Aint i as valuable?
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u wanna write to them based on hearsay that their allowances are going to get raised?Originally posted by kindaichi83:The service do lots of shit... I do lots of shit.. and combat have already got their combat pay.. me is so going to write to the straits times for this... -
pay increases with inflation. allowances too.Originally posted by noel:This is so unfair. Inflation has not worked in the same direction. This has done great discredit to the services of former nsf like myself.
Aint i as valuable? [/img]
u cant expect them to backdate pay or allowance rite? does any company in this world practise tt?? -
My point is, inflation has not increased in such an exaggerated amount relative to the increment of wages(allowance).Originally posted by wuming78:pay increases with inflation. allowances too.
u cant expect them to backdate pay or allowance rite? does any company in this world practise tt?? -
hm.. they increase someone complain. they dont increase someone else will complain.Originally posted by noel:My point is, inflation has not increased in such an exaggerated amount relative to the increment of wages(allowance).
yes the increase was quite substantial (talking about the last increment, since this supposed increment is STILL just a rumour), but that was because they havent done so for quite some time.
do u rather they increase the allowance annually on par with inflation? is tt going to be more acceptable?
if people complain due to increase in cost tt is still understandable. but increase in pay?? -
it may seem shallow but YES i would like to see that. lol. Would'nt seem fair otherwise. im so jealous. Plus if IS true, where do you think the xtra cash influx would come from? Ans:The NON-nsf aka Tax Payers.Originally posted by wuming78:do u rather they increase the allowance annually on par with inflation? is tt going to be more acceptable?
if people complain due to increase in cost tt is still understandable. but increase in pay?? -
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mabbe u would rather they increase allowance yearly but im sure if they are going to do tt they will get a backlash from the public.Originally posted by noel:it may seem shallow but YES i would like to see that. lol. Would'nt seem fair otherwise. im so jealous. Plus if IS true, where do you think the xtra cash influx would come from? Ans:The NON-nsf aka Tax Payers.
well. all the taxpayers are paying, and they are paying not only to the recruits but to singapore's development, defense, etc.
u r jealous of their increasing allowance? but what about ur pay? u think ur parents should be jealous that u r getting more pay than what they had gotten? will u be jealous of ur children for getting a higher figure pay than u in future?
tts a side effect of progress. would u rather we regress so that there is the perception of equality across GENERATIONS? -
Wow you make it seem so rhetorical.Originally posted by wuming78:mabbe u would rather they increase allowance yearly but im sure if they are going to do tt they will get a backlash from the public.
well. all the taxpayers are paying, and they are paying not only to the recruits but to singapore's development, defense, etc.
u r jealous of their increasing allowance? but what about ur pay? u think ur parents should be jealous that u r getting more pay than what they had gotten? will u be jealous of ur children for getting a higher figure pay than u in future?
tts a side effect of progress. would u rather we regress so that there is the perception of equality across GENERATIONS?
Nah its not on such a large scale like generations. I would not be jealous of my children getting more;things will obviously cost more in the future. That's progress.
A better analogy would be the comparison of prices for consumers goods between the "thens" the "now" and the "future". Does'nt make sense that nsfs are paid 500 bucks now and 220 bucks like 3-4 years before. Things just ain't that expensive nowadays. I don't even see a 100% price hike in transportation. It just does'nt add up. -
Wow interestin post...Seems like alot of us are concerned abt the "hearsay" say "hearsay" payrise...But i feel....Pay rise good...pay rise good.....
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btw, 3-4 years ago (tts.. 2000-2001?) the recruits were already getting $350.Originally posted by noel:Wow you make it seem so rhetorical.
Nah its not on such a large scale like generations. I would not be jealous of my children getting more;things will obviously cost more in the future. That's progress.
A better analogy would be the comparison of prices for consumers goods between the "thens" the "now" and the "future". Does'nt make sense that nsfs are paid 500 bucks now and 220 bucks like 3-4 years before. Things just ain't that expensive nowadays. I don't even see a 100% price hike in transportation. It just does'nt add up.
and this 500 thing is, at this moment, still hearsay.
i hear that you are saying, the quantum of increment is not justifiable. i will agree with you if they really increase it to 500 when they have already done so recently (around 2000-2001) when it was revised to the current 350. -
I am saying that once they confirmed that only combat will be getting the 'pay rise', I will write to complain.
My agruements:
1) The service personnel, especially those in the logisitics and maintainence have to do lots of physical work everyday. Including carrying of heavy loads, cleaning up big tanks, loading supplies. They are as physically exhausting as those in combat side. Compares tp those instructors who sit around doing nothing all day., they deserved better.
2) Those in clerks vocations, have tons of paperworks to do. Some of which are very important and they always have to rush reports. This no doubt gives them mental stress so they deserved better.
3) Most combat personnel get to stay in. They don't need to have transportation allowances. Service personnel are likely to go home everyday. They need their transportation fees and of coz dinner... Combat get 3 meals a day. Service only gets lunch.
4) They already have their combat pay. What more they want? Service are as dangerous as combat. Some deal with ammo, some deal with tanks, some deal with heavy machinery, some deal with tons of highly sensitive paperworks, all these are as dangerous as those in combat.
5) Service personnel are always the ones to be tasked to do sai kang. Because combat people are more important, sai kang always left to the service personnel.
In other words, SAF SUCKS!!!!!! They looked down on service personnel. Without us, the SAF could'nt work at all. GO TO HELL, top personnel of the SAF. -
hm.. i seriously dont think they will be increasing pay for the combat personnel only. the only thing they can do, is to perhaps increase the combat allowance. not sure if tts the case u will still go ahead with your letter?Originally posted by kindaichi83:I am saying that once they confirmed that only combat will be getting the 'pay rise', I will write to complain.
My agruements:
1) The service personnel, especially those in the logisitics and maintainence have to do lots of physical work everyday. Including carrying of heavy loads, cleaning up big tanks, loading supplies. They are as physically exhausting as those in combat side. Compares tp those instructors who sit around doing nothing all day., they deserved better.
2) Those in clerks vocations, have tons of paperworks to do. Some of which are very important and they always have to rush reports. This no doubt gives them mental stress so they deserved better.
3) Most combat personnel get to stay in. They don't need to have transportation allowances. Service personnel are likely to go home everyday. They need their transportation fees and of coz dinner... Combat get 3 meals a day. Service only gets lunch.
4) They already have their combat pay. What more they want? Service are as dangerous as combat. Some deal with ammo, some deal with tanks, some deal with heavy machinery, some deal with tons of highly sensitive paperworks, all these are as dangerous as those in combat.
5) Service personnel are always the ones to be tasked to do sai kang. Because combat people are more important, sai kang always left to the service personnel.
In other words, SAF SUCKS!!!!!! They looked down on service personnel. Without us, the SAF could'nt work at all. GO TO HELL, top personnel of the SAF.
anyway just a general comment:
the combat allowance, rather than as a sign of disregard for the services provided by the service personnel, serves to entice and attract people to go to and stay in the combat vocations, which, you must agree with me, has more inherent risks and demands from the very nature of the jobs, whether peacetime or operations, as compared to the service personnel in general. -
cool it guys...
anyway... we r not paying the recruits the $$ wat...
we r all brothers of slavery... (although i have enlist yet, but enlisting soon.. )
pay got increase anot we have no choice but to wait for the official announcement...
i started this thread cos i tot it may be gd to share wif other forumites wat i noe n hope they can share wif me wat i noe...
anyway....
/me shouts NS s.u.c.k.s!