Excuse from Physical Activities since the 3rd day
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hi i was enlisted in 9 june n i was excused from physical activities since the 3rd day until the start of bmt due to the back pain due to spine deformity (i m now slacking in ptp phase
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the mo said that he will not ooc me at the moment because i m in ptp phase n the physio n mo feels that i might have a chance to recover before bmt (chances r slim actually as my specialist had told me) as ptp doesn't need to pass ippt in ptp in order to go bmt
i m oso having physio treatment n session as well n after 4 sessons my situations didn't improve and it is becoming more and more slim to recover before bmt
so i would like to know
1) if excuse from physical activities for 40 days a record?
2) will i get ooc or i will be left to rot in tekong doing nothing or even forced to carry heavy loads if my pain still persists after the bmt starts? -
40 days - ok lah.. i have seen more. but tt usualy means out of course.Originally posted by ah-soh:hi i was enlisted in 9 june n i was excused from physical activities since the 3rd day until the start of bmt due to the back pain due to spine deformity (i m now slacking in ptp phase )
the mo said that he will not ooc me at the moment because i m in ptp phase n the physio n mo feels that i might have a chance to recover before bmt (chances r slim actually as my specialist had told me) as ptp doesn't need to pass ippt in ptp in order to go bmt
i m oso having physio treatment n session as well n after 4 sessons my situations didn't improve and it is becoming more and more slim to recover before bmt
so i would like to know
1) if excuse from physical activities for 40 days a record?
2) will i get ooc or i will be left to rot in tekong doing nothing or even forced to carry heavy loads if my pain still persists after the bmt starts?
and looking at ur condition i reckon u will be downgraded - temporarily or permanently. either way u should be posted out with ur new pes status. if there is a need for recourse (after an upgrade) u will then be sent back to bmt at a later point in time. -
Actually, because you excused 40 days, it really depend what you do or did not do in BMT that will determine whether you pass BMT.
As you may now know or dunno. IPPT, Range and IFC are not veto factor in passing BMT anymore.
What MO is trying to do is maybe during BMT time you participate in all activities regardless if you pass tests. This way you NEED NOT repeat BMT.
If you OOT/OOC in midst of BMT you WILL re-BMT.
There are 3 outcomes from BMT.
Completed BMT (passed all test + IPPT, SOC, IFC) = met all requirements and eligible for leadership training (OCS/SISPEC).
Attended BMT (pass some, failed some, failed at least 1 of 3 in IPPT, SOC, IFC but overall 75% attendance of all lessons) = NEED NOT repeat BMT, not eligible for Commander. And block leave burned.
RE-BMT = poor attendance and attitude towards BMT training. WILL REPEAT BMT. -
thanks for everyone's reply
actually i dun like to recourse bmt but i m left with no choice. there is only a very slim chance for me recovering before bmt
btw, did anyone here have witnessed the same case as me -- excused for several weeks in ptp but didn't ooc in the ptp? -
30 nia??
u call tt a record??
wanna fight w my 6 months excuse + 6 mths att c
+ perm downgrade to C2L2??
++ i`m perfectly fit now?? -
wat was your illness ?Originally posted by BaByBoY:30 nia??
u call tt a record??
wanna fight w my 6 months excuse + 6 mths att c
+ perm downgrade to C2L2??
++ i`m perfectly fit now??
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i`ve no illness..Originally posted by sgboy2004:wat was your illness ?
juz tore my ankle ligament after jumpin down from low ramp..
had an op..
now perfectly fine.. -
6months MC at home? Woww...How did you spend it?Originally posted by BaByBoY:30 nia??
u call tt a record??
wanna fight w my 6 months excuse + 6 mths att c
+ perm downgrade to C2L2??
++ i`m perfectly fit now??
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tt time i almost died when i got 18 daes att c!Originally posted by Doenitz:6months MC at home? Woww...How did you spend it? -
wah...wat happen??Originally posted by wuming78:tt time i almost died when i got 18 daes att c! -
oh when i said i almost died i meant i almost died of boredom.Originally posted by NathanG5:wah...wat happen?? -
oh..nnb i tot wat...Originally posted by wuming78:oh when i said i almost died i meant i almost died of boredom. 
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my current physio gym n session has ended n next week i will be getting a review by the physio
sadly to say, not only there is no improvement on my pain problems, it is becoming slightly worse
bmt will be starting in 2 n a half weeks time but base on my situation, i dun tink i can make it to bmt
oso when i saw my platoon mates training fitness but i can't take part it is oso very pain 4 me
by the way r there anyone here who had seen or came across cases similar to me -- excuse activities for 40 days or more but didn't get ooc? -
sorry to hear tt.Originally posted by ah-soh:my current physio gym n session has ended n next week i will be getting a review by the physio
sadly to say, not only there is no improvement on my pain problems, it is becoming slightly worse
bmt will be starting in 2 n a half weeks time but base on my situation, i dun tink i can make it to bmt
oso when i saw my platoon mates training fitness but i can't take part it is oso very pain 4 me
by the way r there anyone here who had seen or came across cases similar to me -- excuse activities for 40 days or more but didn't get ooc?
but well, some things are really out of our control. dont fret. if u haf tried ur best, den sometimes its best to leave the rest to fate. -
isn't that better? then can enjoy your time in NS
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but i dun wan to spent 16 weeks doin' nothing in tekongOriginally posted by Ole:isn't that better? then can enjoy your time in NS -
fin ur bmtc b4 tinking abt how to keng lahzOriginally posted by ah-soh:but i dun wan to spent 16 weeks doin' nothing in tekong -
i m not chao kenging n i have my specialist's letter to prove that i really hv problems on my backOriginally posted by BaByBoY:fin ur bmtc b4 tinking abt how to keng lahz
i would prefer 2 use the time to do something useful for the country rather than slacking in tekong -
ermm..Originally posted by ah-soh:i m not chao kenging n i have my specialist's letter to prove that i really hv problems on my back
seems i`ve ronged u..
if like tt u make sure u get the max downgrade possible..
it`ll save ur ass into tekong again... -
ah-soh, think you would have booked in by now... but anyway...
just to let you konw that you may request not to be OOT'ed but excuse yourself from SOC/IPPT.
But if it is physical activity that is hurting your back and stuff, then suggest you downgrade. However, it most probably mean PES C recourse.
It's better to take part moderately in your current Enhanced BMT if you can take it.
If you really want to konw more.. talk to your PC... or PM me... there are many ways around this thing. Worse to happen is they OOT you when you needn;t have to and later suffer in recourse.
In recourse BMT, it isn't a really fun experience as they are less forgiving for they assume you know SAF rules by now. And you tend to be mixed with a greater variety of ppl. -
just hv my physio review days ago n although there r no improvement on my pain n less than 2 weeks bmt will start the physio wan me to try until bmt starts then if i can't really recover in time then mo will oot me
i noe my situation very well n it is impossible 4 me to fully recover within 2 weeks
mayb i m now de facto oot...
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I having the same problem as you. I have been ooc since day 2 of ptp phrase. I have already declared my problem during my medical day before enlistment date . I have been in my old company until almost end of bmt before posted out. All I can say is that, go see a specialist , get a downgrade recommandation letter from MO and a medical review before getting your downgrade pes.
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actually b4 enlistment i did went to see specialist due to my back n shoulder pain n they diagnosed that i have scoliosis -- a kind of spine deformity n i got a recommandation letter from my specialist n i went to cmpb for a review after that but the mo there said my case are mind n they refer me to tekong moOriginally posted by Airbus330Captain:I having the same problem as you. I have been ooc since day 2 of ptp phrase. I have already declared my problem during my medical day before enlistment date . I have been in my old company until almost end of bmt before posted out. All I can say is that, go see a specialist , get a downgrade recommandation letter from MO and a medical review before getting your downgrade pes.
when i refer to tekong mo they said the same too n they refer me to the physio for treatment which i m still doing now
btw i thought that u will most probably be posted out within 3/4 weeks after declaring oot? -
the second sessions of my physio had ended n my review will b on thursday
sadly to say, there is still no improvement on my back pain problems n bmt will be starting on wednesday