This is tough ...
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My first day in my unit
I dont mind doing sai kang and everything, thats nothing but ...
My camp is keat hong camp in choa chu kang. I live in hougang. My first bus to the nearest north south line MRT is 5:45am which is AMK MRT, in which i still have to take to CCK MRT and then take another bus to reach camp.
Now all those sounds alright if my book in timing is 0800hrs , but no! It is 0700 hrs (6:50am la considering i still need time to walk in). There is no way i can reach camp on time even if i wake up at 4:30am (which i plan to anyway)
I have highlighted this to my MT officer. He seems quite nice and all but he don't really seem to grapse the problem i face.
The other 5-6 people who started the first day with me. 2 live in Bukit Batok, 3 live in Choa Chu Kang itself! And one even live one road across (he can afford to wake up at 6:30am even)
I know this is army life, like it or not. But the point is , i find it impossible to reach camp by 7:00am, not because i dont want to but because it is beyond my ability (ask SBS why)
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hmm... if thats the case, stay in....
hassle free... -
aei ..
i thot camps are all situated at ulu ulu places
how come there are people living juz across the street? -
stay in ... u have no other choice ....
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My old camp was in SG. I also lived in hougang. Travelling time is insane even if its 0800 book in timing. Sometimes good, get privilege to stay out overnight, can go home. Unless I can lompang my pal's car who lives just down the block, otherwise I rather stay in. But when stay in, avoid arrows where possible when short in manpower.
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agreed.Originally posted by s|nNeD:hmm... if thats the case, stay in....
hassle free...
i think soon u wil discover the hassle and cost of travelling will soon overcome your utility of getting to stay out.
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There are a lot of camps that are near residential areas.Serve long enough and you will slowly find out.Originally posted by Peace84:aei ..
i thot camps are all situated at ulu ulu places
how come there are people living juz across the street?
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an example would be khatib campOriginally posted by LazerLordz:There are a lot of camps that are near residential areas.Serve long enough and you will slowly find out. -
but eventually these will have to make way for development. its too ineconomical to use prime land this way. e.g. guillemard has already given way.Originally posted by LazerLordz:There are a lot of camps that are near residential areas.Serve long enough and you will slowly find out. -
i also face similar problem. but mine is not so bad as him. i live in jurong west but my camp, nee soon camp, is in yishun. got to wake up at 5am everyday.
how i wish they repost me to jurong camp, pasir laba camp or better, SAFTI!
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But definitely not Tg Gul camp.Originally posted by Gordonator:i also face similar problem. but mine is not so bad as him. i live in jurong west but my camp, nee soon camp, is in yishun. got to wake up at 5am everyday.
how i wish they repost me to jurong camp, pasir laba camp or better, SAFTI! 
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look..i seriously dunt see wht u are complaining abt..keat hong for ur info is suppose to be a stay-in camp..it is bcos u r nw lobo tt they allow u to stay out..so enjoy it while it lasts. sleeping in ur own bed, gg out wif gf..blah blah..also keat hong is so near the mrt..10 minutes walk only from cck.
also if u really think it is impossible. i am sure there will definitely be a bunk available and i advise u nt to complain too muz..i presume u r in the 8sab side now. if ur mto is nt happy with ur complains he might jolly well pack u off to 46sar in sungei gedong -
Staying in isn't as bad as it sounds. There's no mandatory lights-off time; you can reasonably hoard all the barang to make you feel more at home; things like laundry can be put off to the weekend bookout; & (regular) night-offs provide opportunities for winding down, whether it's to downtown or just hanging out at the neighbourhood coffee-shop.
I frequently stayed in even when I was a reservist, as opposed to booking out/in at an ungodly hour. -
personally, i myself dont like to stay in. cos the people staying in with u might not be persons u like.
take me for example, i work in the guardhouse and it doesn't require us to stay in. yet a lot of malay murk (RPs) like to stay in inside the guardhouse.
the problem is they won't quietly sleep and make no trouble. it's the opposite! they turn on the hi-fi and tv loud loud till pass midnight , without any concern whelter other people want to sleep or not. they will talk loudly and worst, smoke inside the bunk. with those kind of people around, i really hate stay in to do my duty.
so take my words, if your unit let u stay out, treasure it. nothing beats seeing your love ones n sleeping in ypur own bed. -
Thousands would kill for your privilege to sleep in your own bed.To stay out is a huge gift in a combat unit..When you have served long enough, you will really realise the enormity of what you have.Most will even be willing to book out at 2200 or 2300 just to sleep at home, even if they have to wake up at 0600 or 0530 the next morning.It gives you certain "benefits" which you will be thankful for.
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Stay in lah, since can stay out, then nights out should not be a problem, at night go out jalan jalan then come back just before the stated timing, bath then sleep.
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Quite True, I was at Tekong for NSF. During BMT don't say, SAFINCOS (then) was no bloody joke either (then at Pasir labar, I was on East Coast). After that Tekong Camp III (now SISPEC).Originally posted by LazerLordz:Thousands would kill for your privilege to sleep in your own bed.To stay out is a huge gift in a combat unit..When you have served long enough, you will really realise the enormity of what you have. Most will even be willing to book out at 2200 or 2300 just to sleep at home, even if they have to wake up at 0600 or 0530 the next morning.It gives you certain "benefits" which you will be thankful for.
If follow men, official book in time was 3pm but needed to report by 1pm (because we used LRP before commando jetty was spiffed up). Loading 3 coys at one go meant a climb from the jetty over two other RPL tied alongside, one by one (160 x 3 coys + NCO officers), that takes 1.5 hr plus. No bus direct from East coast (change to no. 2 at Simpang bedok) mean leave house at 11.30am or earlier.
Book out even worst, earliest is after lunch on Satuday (i.e. 1pm), March out (yes March out from Camp III to jetty takes abt 1 hour (not like your ten minute walk from MRT) load up etc (another hour plus) add RPL ride to command jetty (45 minutes) means arrive commando jetty earliest 4pm. Arrive home earliest 5pm, just to book in next day (see above). No time for washed No.4s to dry even.
For us, staying In is not an option, only non ITD units, i.e. Tekong CCO etc allowed to book out. For us (NCO officers) allowed book out once a week, only if no night training or no range next day (very rare).
Wait till NS then cry, now am at Clementi camp but suffered almost no nights off for 1st few ICT, no time to kiss wife or change baby's dypers etc. Packed programme etc. Just you wait. -
Well, the best scenario anyone could hope for today would be a flexi-stay option.No meals indented of course, to save SAF the money, but a bunk to sleep in if you have OT on the same day.
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yeah. tts wat i liked to do when i was serving my ns.Originally posted by octega:Stay in lah, since can stay out, then nights out should not be a problem, at night go out jalan jalan then come back just before the stated timing, bath then sleep. -
stay in lor dun complain... saf provide u wif a roof and a bed for u to slp soundly in... juz to bad man suck it up and finish ur ns...
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STAY-IN LOR
I oso choose to stay-in when i was at tekong even i was allow to stay-out -
Staying in is definitely better, especially if you don't have a car and public transport is not that easily available near camp.
During my NSF days, I was posted to Keat Hong Camp (old GSB) and I stayed in the south. Booking out means having to endure the agony of seeing busloads of army and air force personnel sardined in the bus and you can't board it.
My ICTs were spent in Tg Gul Camp. Super ulu place and only one bus servicing the area. Before I got my car, I stayed in even though the Bn can book out. Go to the mess, get a beer or two, sometimes I get those that are booking in to da bao supper for me. -
stay in, save alot of money, meals accomodated.
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Hmm, you too posted to ITD as instructor. I was at A coy (1983-85), camp 1. Posted to Tekong after SAFINCOS. Which coy were you in? Yeap, duty NCO quite suay, got to book in/out with REC. Luckily can take turns. During our time only regular OCs, enciks stay out. NSF (officers, NCOs) all stay in.Originally posted by baer:Quite True, I was at Tekong for NSF. During BMT don't say, SAFINCOS (then) was no bloody joke either (then at Pasir labar, I was on East Coast). After that Tekong Camp III (now SISPEC).
If follow men, official book in time was 3pm but needed to report by 1pm (because we used LRP before commando jetty was spiffed up). Loading 3 coys at one go meant a climb from the jetty over two other RPL tied alongside, one by one (160 x 3 coys + NCO officers), that takes 1.5 hr plus. No bus direct from East coast (change to no. 2 at Simpang bedok) mean leave house at 11.30am or earlier.
Book out even worst, earliest is after lunch on Satuday (i.e. 1pm), March out (yes March out from Camp III to jetty takes abt 1 hour (not like your ten minute walk from MRT) load up etc (another hour plus) add RPL ride to command jetty (45 minutes) means arrive commando jetty earliest 4pm. Arrive home earliest 5pm, just to book in next day (see above). No time for washed No.4s to dry even.
For us, staying In is not an option, only non ITD units, i.e. Tekong CCO etc allowed to book out. For us (NCO officers) allowed book out once a week, only if no night training or no range next day (very rare).
Wait till NS then cry, now am at Clementi camp but suffered almost no nights off for 1st few ICT, no time to kiss wife or change baby's dypers etc. Packed programme etc. Just you wait. -
stay in lah