Is Pes C Considered Combat fit? Isit there's diff between .
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as above oh yah is there any diff between Pes A and B ?
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pes a - fit to be deployed for all vocations
pes b - fit to be deployed for most vocations
pes c usually means certain medical conditions and the deployability is denoted by the code following the status, e.g. pes c1 l1. the "l" status denotes where one can be deployed. -
so it means PEs C is not considered combvat fit lor ?
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I think you need to distinguish between "combat fit" & "combat vocation". The SAF uses a medical classification to assign Physical Employment Status (PES).
Thus, only PES D, E & F can be considered combat unfit in the strictest sense.
PES A & B are fully combat-fit, with only slight differences in deployment for operational assignments.
PES C, as a whole, used to be for service vocations but they've increasingly finetuned it so that previously combat-unfit troops can now serve with combat outfits, often in combat vocations too - but not necessarily as frontline soldiers per se. In particular, the C1L2-graded bunch can be appointed to serve with the Unit HQ or rear-echelon area, eg. HQ Signaller or camp Medic respectively.
It's a step up from the days when storemen & clerks were cut some slack with things like IPPT, but otherwise must also conform to REDCON capability like the other unit personnel. Not much of a choice, given the declining national birth rate. -
Other than PES A can go NDU and commandos, there are no other differences between PES A n B n they trained together in BMTOriginally posted by watsons:as above oh yah is there any diff between Pes A and B ? -
how abt C Between this A and B ?Originally posted by chikopek:Other than PES A can go NDU and commandos, there are no other differences between PES A n B n they trained together in BMT -
i dunno about combat fit... but i'm Pes C and still in a combat vocation...
only thing is... i'm not to be deployed outside the camp grounds.. which is pointless for a unit which is always outside of the camp grounds
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pes C can still be combat fit if you are pes CL1 or CL2.
I think L3 and L9 are the non-combat only. -
i'm C2L3 and still holding the vocation of Combat Medic...Originally posted by pqr:pes C can still be combat fit if you are pes CL1 or CL2.
I think L3 and L9 are the non-combat only. -
Big difference I must say. PES C BMT dun need PTP, dun need IPPT (For C2 n C9), excused many things and BMT only 7 weeks.Originally posted by watsons:how abt C Between this A and B ?
If you can get status like permanently excused heavy loads, lower limbs, upper limbs etc then you can downgrade. -
In fact, you only get the full privilege of your PES C status if you are in a Formation HQ, Maintenance Bases or General Staff Branches, e.g G1, G2..etc.Originally posted by Moxie:I think you need to distinguish between "combat fit" & "combat vocation". The SAF uses a medical classification to assign Physical Employment Status (PES).
Thus, only PES D, E & F can be considered combat unfit in the strictest sense.
PES A & B are fully combat-fit, with only slight differences in deployment for operational assignments.
PES C, as a whole, used to be for service vocations but they've increasingly finetuned it so that previously combat-unfit troops can now serve with combat outfits, often in combat vocations too - but not necessarily as frontline soldiers per se. In particular, the C1L2-graded bunch can be appointed to serve with the Unit HQ or rear-echelon area, eg. HQ Signaller or camp Medic respectively.
It's a step up from the days when storemen & clerks were cut some slack with things like IPPT, but otherwise must also conform to REDCON capability like the other unit personnel. Not much of a choice, given the declining national birth rate. -
hmm i have heard ppl saysing C1L3 is considered combat fit is this true? the training is similar to PEs a and B ??? Am i right? and is considered combat fit ppl also.. ohh yeah my frends says PEs C1 Bmt also 3 mths ar ? need to take Napfa test also training damn tough like PEs A and Bi damn scares also they says it can be train as Ranger mehz if not what are PEs C1 are for i thought for medical background ppl :~(
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All PES C BMT, regardless of PES C1L1 or C9L(, are 7 weeksOriginally posted by watsons:hmm i have heard ppl saysing C1L3 is considered combat fit is this true? the training is similar to PEs a and B ??? Am i right? and is considered combat fit ppl also.. ohh yeah my frends says PEs C1 Bmt also 3 mths ar ? need to take Napfa test also training damn tough like PEs A and Bi damn scares also they says it can be train as Ranger mehz if not what are PEs C1 are for i thought for medical background ppl :~( -
PES A & B mostly get enhanced bmt......
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hmm i have heard ppl saysing C1L3 is considered combat fit is this true?
Combat fit but service vocation, lah. Many will still wear No. 4 uniform & draw rifle/pack fullpack, but may not need to go out for field training.