Witness relates dunking death of soldier
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think that will be their punishment?? seems too light.. they deserve 100x worse...Originally posted by kwlee:they are waiting for their jail term and stroke of canes on their sorri ass....
the proceedings seem a bit slow leh.. dun tink the case on many S'poreans' minds now... -
haiz~ but it is on my mind eh. it won't result in death penalty(i do hope it will happen) i guess but i hope they get send to db instead of civilian jail.Originally posted by piopoz:think that will be their punishment?? seems too light.. they deserve 100x worse...
the proceedings seem a bit slow leh.. dun tink the case on many S'poreans' minds now... -
heng, u mean one of the instructors drunk alcohol before the incident?
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hope they spend their patheic rest of their life in jail....Originally posted by kwlee:they are waiting for their jail term and stroke of canes on their sorri ass....
n may their family go bankupt
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couldn't agree more.... !!! ...Originally posted by joker105:hope they spend their patheic rest of their life in jail....
n may their family go bankupt -
heard that those (ah neh) instructors always drink...Originally posted by SnowFlag:heng, u mean one of the instructors drunk alcohol before the incident? -
they shall be castrated and sent to MARS!!!Originally posted by piopoz:heard that those (ah neh) instructors always drink... -
would like them to try the "man qing shi da ku xing".. eg giab fingers bet bamboo, stick needles in bet fingernail and finger... or mabbe like the film "Audition".. stick needles into their eyeballs.... mmm...Originally posted by kwlee:they shall be castrated and sent to MARS!!!
guess these guys would oni feel sorrie for their own fate (that they have to go to jail) but not about murdering an innocent young officer... sigh.. -
erm, jus to correct u, they killed a 2sgt nt officer...Originally posted by piopoz:would like them to try the "man qing shi da ku xing".. eg giab fingers bet bamboo, stick needles in bet fingernail and finger... or mabbe like the film "Audition".. stick needles into their eyeballs.... mmm...
guess these guys would oni feel sorrie for their own fate (that they have to go to jail) but not about murdering an innocent young officer... sigh..
the captain will almost killed. but in any case, they shouldn't do that. the 2sgt is only 19 yrs old and has a bright future ahead. They killed a Singapore Soldier. They shall be HEAVYLY PUNISHED!!! -
general figure of speech... sorrie... i neber do NS before...Originally posted by kwlee:erm, jus to correct u, they killed a 2sgt nt officer... the captain will almost killed. but in any case, they shouldn't do that. the 2sgt is only 19 yrs old and has a bright future ahead. They killed a Singapore Soldier. They shall be HEAVYLY PUNISHED!!!
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The 4 detainees are worse than those DB detainees. At least those DB detainees don't cause the death of people.
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not just one... beer cans littered the ground during the dunking. ask anyone whos been thru the cse the few months b4 Enhuai's death. they'll tell u that.Originally posted by SnowFlag:heng, u mean one of the instructors drunk alcohol before the incident? -
that 2SG was my friend!Originally posted by kwlee:erm, jus to correct u, they killed a 2sgt nt officer... the captain will almost killed. but in any case, they shouldn't do that. the 2sgt is only 19 yrs old and has a bright future ahead. They killed a Singapore Soldier. They shall be HEAVYLY PUNISHED!!!
he had such a bright future. good in studies, good in sports, popular, student councillor, all gone now. AND FOR WHAT?! FOR THE PRIVATE AMUSEMENT N ABUSE OF POWER OF 2 FUCKERS WHO HAD MUSH FOR BRAINS, WHO SOMEHOW GOT COMMISSIONED AS OFFICERS. well done SAF. well done.
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like what i sae, those officers are brainless...Originally posted by HENG@:that 2SG was my friend!
he had such a bright future. good in studies, good in sports, popular, student councillor, all gone now. AND FOR WHAT?! FOR THE PRIVATE AMUSEMENT N ABUSE OF POWER OF 2 FUCKERS WHO HAD MUSH FOR BRAINS, WHO SOMEHOW GOT COMMISSIONED AS OFFICERS. well done SAF. well done.
*applause*
i dunno why saf muz hav the pow training oso. It just gives opportunity for instructor to abuse the trainees... like in this case. Being blindfolded and tied up is already bad enuff... I suppose the water treatment is suppose only to POUR WATER ON THEIR FACE NOT THROW THEIR HEAD INTO THE WATER. One great soldier losted. 19 Years of hard work put to waste. -
its not all officers r bad or stupid. the problem here is SAF is unable to weed out morons n brainless colds, imbeciles such as these particular horseShits... POW training is meant to give the trainees an idea of what a real life POW situation is like, not for any of the instructors to abuse their powers. That they could get carried away showed how unprofessional they were about it.Originally posted by kwlee:like what i sae, those officers are brainless...
i dunno why saf muz hav the pow training oso. It just gives opportunity for instructor to abuse the trainees... like in this case. Being blindfolded and tied up is already bad enuff... I suppose the water treatment is suppose only to POUR WATER ON THEIR FACE NOT THROW THEIR HEAD INTO THE WATER. One great soldier losted. 19 Years of hard work put to waste.
A real pro would certainly conduct the training, for the sake of the trainees, but he would certainly abhorr it. Nontheless, as a professional, he'll carry out the training, but with an eye towards the trainees' wellbeing. like i said, in this case the instructors were clearly very unprofessional about their job. therein, lies the problem. -
anyways an extremely heavy punishment is certainly called for, if for nothing other than to show that SAF does not tolerate unprofessionalism a single bit.
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U actually believed in that sh1t? water treatment = spray or splash water on POWs?Originally posted by kwlee:... I suppose the water treatment is suppose only to POUR WATER ON THEIR FACE NOT THROW THEIR HEAD INTO THE WATER. One great soldier losted. 19 Years of hard work put to waste.
Such light "tortures" for POW training? LOL 
The fact that many SAF "Training" are not written and described SPECIFICALLY. Many times they are not written or spelt out clearly. Why? Think about it.
I feel very sad that such an unfortunate incident occured, however, i must admit i oso feel sad for the instructors - IMO they are just some scap goats.
FYI, not all NS deaths are reported in news. I'm quite surprised that they chose to let this case get so much focus. In fact, my sister's ex-colleague's son died in NS just days after this incident, but no such publicity. -
The training is meant to "SIMULATE" POW situation not expose the training to "REAL & LIFE-LIKE" situation. if that is so, the instruction can draw a gun and shoot them. How about that. ?Originally posted by Poopie-Head:U actually believed in that sh1t? water treatment = spray or splash water on POWs? Such light "tortures" for POW training? LOL
The fact that many SAF "Training" are not written and described SPECIFICALLY. Many times they are not written or spelt out clearly. Why? Think about it.
I feel very sad that such an unfortunate incident occured, however, i must admit i oso feel sad for the instructors - IMO they are just some scap goats.
FYI, not all NS deaths are reported in news. I'm quite surprised that they chose to let this case get so much focus. In fact, my sister's ex-colleague's son died in NS just days after this incident, but no such publicity. -
very well-said. "Simulate".Originally posted by kwlee:The training is meant to "SIMULATE" POW situation not expose the training to "REAL & LIFE-LIKE" situation. if that is so, the instruction can draw a gun and shoot them. How about that. ?
now the thing is how u think the simulation is being done. Spray water on them? or Dunking their heads into water? What is the more probable training "simulation"?
I'm not saying that its right to dunk their heads in. But i'm just saying that blaming those instructors for the training: Do u think they invented this method of training (dunking)? This is a fresh new idea since the very start of such POW trainings? -
About another victim -- The CPT..... I think that since he is a CPT and the 2 who 'tortured' him are only LTA so he should have to power to resist the abuse isn't it?
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the CPT is "on-course" making himself a trainee... and those LTA is the INSTRUCTORsOriginally posted by chikopek:About another victim -- The CPT..... I think that since he is a CPT and the 2 who 'tortured' him are only LTA so he should have to power to resist the abuse isn't it?
INstructors bigger than trainee... only when after that course den that CPT bigger than the LTA -
The captain is a trainee - trainees rank does not matter when u r in training. Ur instructor always higher when u are in training - no matter the rank.Originally posted by chikopek:About another victim -- The CPT..... I think that since he is a CPT and the 2 who 'tortured' him are only LTA so he should have to power to resist the abuse isn't it? -
Posted this earlier on.Please do not be surprised I tell you this.The scholarly smartasses have allowed the SAF to allow Commandos who have not even went through the CSC to serve as Instructors,so how is it man?Shows you how bright they are.This is inside info from my colleague.
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They aren't even qualified to live on this world!Originally posted by joker105:hope they spend their patheic rest of their life in jail....
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give u an anology,
a kid goes to a shop, he steals. he succeed.
he thinks that no one can catch him.
he tries again! he succeed.
the continues until one day he got caught.
This tells us if u r not caught the 1st time or 2nd time, u will get caught 1 day. if r nt caught the 1st time realise the mistake and correct it.
The same goes for the death of the 2nd sgt. they have been practising this dunking since a few batch before his. nothing happened. the continue until this happened.
so i practically think that they have the mindset of kids