Position of flags
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because 1 of my many job scopes includes raising and lowering of flags every now and then, i'll like to know the correct positions and sequence of the flags on the 5 flag poles.
1st of all, for a 5 flag poles (see diagram below), in what order must the SAF flag, army flag, RSAF flag, RSN flag be located? (singapore flag in the centre, that's obvious i know)
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2nd, if all 5 flag poles are of same level and height (see diagram below), after singapore flag, what is the sequence of the next 4 flag?
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I am not sure about the first question. If I recall correctly, the position of the flags as I have seen from SAFTI MI are RSN, State Flag, SAF, Army, RSAF, Unit Flag of SAFTI.
The second one is easy. State Flag should always be on the left of the observer, followed by Presidential Standard (if any), SAF, Army, RSN, RSAF.
A simple way to remember this arrangement is that it follows the chronological order in which the services were formed. This is also reflected in the arrangement of the Guard-Of-Honour (Army, Navy, Air Force) for SAFDP and NDP. -
thanks for answering my question. from your answer i roughly know the order in which the flags should be.
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for the above flag poles, from left to right: RSN, Army, State Flag, SAF, RSAF -
i got another question, if the army flag is yellow. then what is the color of RSAF and RSN flag?
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RSN flag is white, RSAF, light blue.
For more info, visit http://www.geocities.com/inescutcheon/FlagsMilitary.HTML
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Originally posted by Gordonator:i got another question, if the army flag is yellow. then what is the color of RSAF and RSN flag?
thanks a lot! the webbie was informative. really answer all my doubts.Originally posted by EXCO:
SAF
Army
RSN
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what will the offences be if u kena caught burning/tearing on those military flags?
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if even the CDF needs to salute the flags (also known as colours), what do you think?Originally posted by deli_1971:what will the offences be if u kena caught burning/tearing on those military flags? -
Ah... Dangerous. Burn this into your mind - Flags are not Colours. Simple as that.Originally posted by wuming78:if even the CDF needs to salute the flags (also known as colours), what do you think?
Colours are individual items that have been consecrated at a parade by religious leaders. There are no two Colours that are alike. They are guarded at all expenses.
Flags are the ones that Gordonator posted up, "massed-produced" and not individually consecrated.
A simple example of the difference is that flags are not entitled armed escorts when paraded, while armed escorts must always be provided for Colours.
Only the Navy refers to their flags as Colours, this is their tradition, not the norm.
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there are...Originally posted by EXCO:Ah... Dangerous. Burn this into your mind - Flags are not Colours. Simple as that.
Colours are individual items that have been consecrated at a parade by religious leaders. There are no two Colours that are alike. They are guarded at all expenses.
Flags are the ones that Gordonator posted up, "massed-produced" and not individually consecrated.
A simple example of the difference is that flags are not entitled armed escorts when paraded, while armed escorts must always be provided for Colours.
Only the Navy refers to their flags as Colours, this is their tradition, not the norm.
Not many people realise the difference between flags and Colours.
outside MINDEF podium are the flag poles with the respective flags...inside MINDEF lobby got the SAF colours leh...
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What do you mean?Originally posted by NeonTetra:there are...
outside MINDEF podium are the flag poles with the respective flags...inside MINDEF lobby got the SAF colours leh...
SAF Colours are inside the MINDEF lobby!? The Regimental or State Colours? -
the service coloursOriginally posted by EXCO:What do you mean?
SAF Colours are inside the MINDEF lobby!? The Regimental or State Colours? -
The Service Colours? They have been retired in 1991!Originally posted by NeonTetra:the service colours
Are these the Colours you are referring to? -
cant see....really its there in MINDEF lobby
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Sorry editedOriginally posted by NeonTetra:cant see....really its there in MINDEF lobby
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yup....they r displayed in a glass showcase at MINDEF lobbyOriginally posted by EXCO:Sorry edited -
retired? so now use wat?
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I see... That is very interesting. Based on my research, the Army Service Colours is at Pasir Laba, and the other two are under the custody of the respective services. Finally someone can confirm the whereabouts of these three elusive Colours.Originally posted by NeonTetra:yup....they r displayed in a glass showcase at MINDEF lobby
Anyways, these three Colours are already retired, and they cannot be carried on parade under any circumstances anymore. The Army Colour in particular is 32 years old! Do take a second look at it when you walk pass them
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err...i used to walk pass them everyday durin my NS days...Originally posted by EXCO:I see... That is very interesting. Based on my research, the Army Service Colours is at Pasir Laba, and the other two are under the custody of the respective services. Finally someone can confirm the whereabouts of these three elusive Colours.
Anyways, these three Colours are already retired, and they cannot be carried on parade under any circumstances anymore. The Army Colour in particular is 32 years old! Do take a second look at it when you walk pass them
now..no chance liao
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The Service Colours have all been retired in 1991 and 1997. After they were retired, the system of Colours were streamlined to include only State Colours and Regimental Colours. They are the ones you see on NDP and SAFDP.Originally posted by NeonTetra:retired? so now use wat? -
I believe the question is how to position the flags.
I ahve read a book written by a US diplomat. The national flag should be in the centre on a raised platform.
When being displayed with flags of other countries in Singapore, our own national flag should be positioned on its own right -- i.e. the audience's left. -
It depends on the situation.Originally posted by tkw88:I believe the question is how to position the flags.
I ahve read a book written by a US diplomat. The national flag should be in the centre on a raised platform.
When being displayed with flags of other countries in Singapore, our own national flag should be positioned on its own right -- i.e. the audience's left.
When flags of other countries are displayed, it should be in alphabetical order, as per how UN and Olympics displays the flags. Otherwise the host country's flag taking the honour position on the left makes sense as well.
When it comes to positioning of flags with other countries, a big question mark may come up. There was once a photo showing an exercise held in Singapore, and the US state flag takes the honour position. Go figure.