4 Bar cadets at safti MI
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Any one seen a "4 bar" cadet in MI before????
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where got? at most 3 la
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which cohort you from?
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you have seen one? there is no such rank.Originally posted by tchiew:Any one seen a "4 bar" cadet in MI before???? -
Surely there are! ... OCS instructors lah. They go thru OCS twice, they deserve 4 while bars haha.
Sorry if i have offended any instructors out there. -
what is the point of this thread?Originally posted by tchiew:Surely there are! ... OCS instructors lah. They go thru OCS twice, they deserve 4 while bars haha.
Sorry if i have offended any instructors out there. -
Did you see more patterns besides the white bars? i have a feeling you saw the "rank" used by Cadet Key Appt Holders (it looks like 3 white bars and the 4th bar has this loopy thing). ermmm trying hard to remember what they are but memory fails me.
Or parallex error issit? 3 bar see until 4 bars?!?!? -
2bars each on left and right = 4 bars???
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i guess he must have seen the epaulette from a distance... so far that the "SINGAPURA" appeared to be a bar to him.
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Nah..instructors call themselves 5 bar cadets..not 4 barsOriginally posted by tchiew:Surely there are! ... OCS instructors lah. They go thru OCS twice, they deserve 4 while bars haha.
Sorry if i have offended any instructors out there.
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Cadet Key Appt Holders do what?
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Theres a Cadet Sergeant Major also right?Besides those with white bars,see b4 OCTs with GOLD/yellow bars also.Whats that for?
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i also saw OCTs with sergeant ranks...why ar?
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i even saw one with warrant officer rank!(If i see clearly)....why so strange one? I also saw one with something like a ribbon one...wat is it?
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i also saw before when the cadets came for guard duty. i believe they must be the cadet appointment holders.
maybe wait for wuming78 or master -_- to come and explain to us in details. -
the one with the warrent officer rank is CWSM, Cadet Wing Sergeant Major, his incharge of the discpline stores. similar to what a CSM in a unit will do except that he just a cadet,so the Wing SM will go and screw this poor guy whenver the area not clean etc .....we used to nickname the poor guy Cadet Wing Super Man, supposed to bo ka liow ..hahaOriginally posted by BMEngineer:i even saw one with warrant officer rank!(If i see clearly)....why so strange one? I also saw one with something like a ribbon one...wat is it?
as for the ribbon, i think thats the rank of the CPC, Cadet Platoon Commander, the CPS wears a 1st sergeant sleeve on his right side. -
ya..
CSectComd - normal epaulette, but with a 3SG rank that they wear on the sleeves
CPS - normal epaulette, but with a 1SG rank that they wear on the sleeves
CPC - epaullete with one circle on top of the white bar
CSafetyO, CSportsO - rank with 1 white bar perpendicular to the other white bar(s)
CWSM - epaullete with a 2WO rank
CW2IC - same as CPC but with 1 white bar protruding out from the circle thingy
CWC - same as CPC but with 2 white bar protruding out from the circle thingy
If u see these but are gold color ranks, it's just their outfield ranks..But quite different
For CPS, its just a gold 1SG rank
For the Ex. PC, he will get a gold 2LT, LTA, or CPT rank..looks damn cool wan
For Cadet School Appointment
CSSM - epaullete with MWO rank - Gold colour
CS2IC - same as CWC but with a small white bar parallel to the normal cadet white bars, but on the other end of the epaullete
CSC - same as CWC but with 2 small white bars parallel to the normal cadet white bars, but on the other end of the epaullete
Their ranks turn BLACK when they go outfield -
So the posts will be rotated and all that?And the rank thingy...will be rotated amongst the cadets too?
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I would think so.It would not be fair for one cadet to be saddled with one specific appointment for the whole OCS course.
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what are the roles and responsibilties for all those different apointment holders mentioned above?Originally posted by CKtalon:ya..
CSectComd - normal epaulette, but with a 3SG rank that they wear on the sleeves
CPS - normal epaulette, but with a 1SG rank that they wear on the sleeves
CPC - epaullete with one circle on top of the white bar
CSafetyO, CSportsO - rank with 1 white bar perpendicular to the other white bar(s)
CWSM - epaullete with a 2WO rank
CW2IC - same as CPC but with 1 white bar protruding out from the circle thingy
CWC - same as CPC but with 2 white bar protruding out from the circle thingy
If u see these but are gold color ranks, it's just their outfield ranks..But quite different
For CPS, its just a gold 1SG rank
For the Ex. PC, he will get a gold 2LT, LTA, or CPT rank..looks damn cool wan
For Cadet School Appointment
CSSM - epaullete with MWO rank - Gold colour
CS2IC - same as CWC but with a small white bar parallel to the normal cadet white bars, but on the other end of the epaullete
CSC - same as CWC but with 2 small white bars parallel to the normal cadet white bars, but on the other end of the epaullete
Their ranks turn BLACK when they go outfield -
slaves of the instructors... =)
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CSC: Run the school in a sense..but mainly is just to coordinate school events such as initiation of junior cadets, TST stuff, School Happy Hour, be there to coordinate commander's parade
The Cadet School 2IC just helps out..
CSSM: Be around mealtimes to ensure that cadets line up quietly and orderly manner..prevent cadets from cutting across the plants area(if u know)
Got the authority to scold and conduct punishments on cadets who do not adhere to a proper code of conduct..Seen the Alpha 53/03 CSSM blakan bu-sing a platoon marching off, and then give them pumping
CWC: Runs the wing, gives the instructions and timing to be at where and when..Coordinates with instructors..reports strength of wing, conducts area inspection later in the ST2 and pro terms, negotiate with instructors for welfare and for the fault of the wing..gets the brute of in the instructors nevertheless..
C2IC: Helps the CWC, most of the time in charge of setting the duties for the cadets like Cadet Duty Officer and Cadet Duty Specialist..In charge of the extras and stuff..
CWSM: The saikang manager..does the most in the wing..in charge of all stores required for any exercise..is the one to ensure that all the stores are loaded up to the tonners, and signs out from the store..very huge responsibility
In charge of discipline at the same time..
CPC: Manages the platoon, reports strength to CWC, answers to instructors for the platoon when things go platoon level
CPS: Helps the CPC, most of the time is the wan giving the drill commands and helps the CPC collect the strength..In charge of the indentation of meals of the platoon
CSecComd: Does minor stuff..helps the CPC, CPS in collecting homework, cash and stuff..
The CSOs (Cadet Assholes )
Cadet Sports Officer: Conducts morning 5BX mainly..warming up and cooling down too
Cadet Safety Officer: In charge of ensuring the water points, safety ice are consolidated, gives suggestions when any safety regulation could have been breached (for instance, one CSO told the instructors we couldn't do 5BX run since we didn't get 7 hours of sleep )
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if the cadets are doing all those jobs, then the real PS, PC, OC, CSM do what? shake legs?
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OCS only got PC, APC ( don't noe if they still have that) for each plt,Originally posted by Gordonator:if the cadets are doing all those jobs, then the real PS, PC, OC, CSM do what? shake legs?
all of them are regulars, and the APC is supposed to be incharge of instructing the CPC and CPS on preparing the equipment for camps, excercise so on....
The Wing Comd which is the OC in OCS, usually CBL , attends to more impt matters, much of the jobs aka saikang is handled by the cadets and the WSM especially during excercise time, the WSM will usually ba nah nah the CWSM and down the line ...
if the PCs were to step in, we are in deep shit man ..haha ..from those from Alpha Wing, 45/01 and my seniors, the PC and APC of Platoon 1 was a force to be reckoned with, the PC harrass u day and night during field training, the APC will harras you during Admin time,
My salute personally goes out to those from 37/99 Alpha Wing OOC, you guys really been through hell, especially PLT 1 -
Oic....training to be officer mah....so must learn all these also.....those stuffs done by sgts and warrants....