Any famous white horse in your unit/camp/school?
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Oh izziT? Hmmm...gotta snoop around siaOriginally posted by TehJarVu:HPL = Hotel Properties Limited (Hilton, Hard Rock Cafe, Haagen-Dazs.......etc)
Boss = Ong Beng Seng.
If I'm not wrong, that son is an adopted son.
OBS only has a daughter with his wife.
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It's just that he's a reclusive guy.. very humble and low profile guy.. But that guy is HUGE! Damn ripped man!Originally posted by Gedanken:Man, news must travel slowly at SAFTI. We knew that shortly after starting BMT. -
gonna be dragging up an old post.. but oh well. feel like i have something to add on.
anw. never really believed in the white horse stuff.. till i actually enlisted, and saw the preferential treatment for myself.
enlisted 7th Jan 2005, POPed 8th March. i was in the so called 'scholar batch'. was in charlie, we had a 'junior' white horse i guess. son of a malay MP. heard he got abit of preferential treatment la, but he was outstanding anyway. platoon best, and company best shot. can't argue there.
had a couple of BG sons in Jaguar too. but that coy was xiong as shit. hearsay was that their dad's didn't really 'request' for the white horse treatment.
the big issue for my batch was with Hawk coy tho. son of our current defence minister. can't get much bigger than that. was rather ridiculous if you ask me. for one, their entire company had revellie at 6am ( everyone else 5.30 latest. ), and had daily ROs by like 7pm everyday. tons of admin and OTOT time. the entire company's instructors ( even the OC ) was practically barred from using any form of vulgarities. those who used them were warned by their higher ups. heard the OC was giving a speech once, where he said something along the lines of 'fu*king powerful, but take note! i use the word fu*king not because im a vulgar man, but because im trying to stress just how powerful this weapon is.' LOL is all i can say.
have u ever seen ur instructors during ur recruit days digging and setting the bloody sandbags for you? or having the specs run to the coy office to take out cough medicine for you? oh. guess what. for live range, they brought along a friggin TV and a DVD player. ( 100% true, had pple from my coy attached to them for reshoot. ) oh, for the 7day field camp, ya, altho now most coys are really quite relak already, for theirs, they had friggin clothes lines set up, and at night, when most other coys would practice rather strict light discipline, to quote my PC here, theirs was like 'deepavali'. saw it with my own eyes. red, blue, green lights everywhere. amazing. seriously ridiculous la. the treatment they get is... out of this world.
hell, even the current CO of BMTC Sch 1, LTC David Lim, practically admitted the WH treatment himself during his end-of-BMT talk with my Charlie coy. when something along the lines of this was brought up, he was like 'most coys, there's the good and bad lah, give and take. except for your batch, one particular company, i don't need to say why lah, you all should know.' like wtf?
oh yes, the bugger got platoon best too, even after numerous reports saying he was practically a resident at the medical centre, and far from outstanding as well. figures.
anyway, the entire coy was regularly booed by the other 4 'scholar batch' coys during the sch exercises and parades and stuff. absolutely hilarious to hear loads of cheering for every other coy during our POP rehersals, only to hear a resounding chorus of boos and jeers whenever 'lets give it up for the men of Hawk coy!!!' is read out.
the preferential treatment definitely still exists tho, even after everything was out in the open in the media under the so called guise of transparency. bullshit if you ask me. -
This is outrageous! So i suppose he's going OCS? That bugger...Originally posted by nAkAnO:the big issue for my batch was with Hawk coy tho. son of our current defence minister. can't get much bigger than that. was rather ridiculous if you ask me. for one, their entire company had revellie at 6am ( everyone else 5.30 latest. ), and had daily ROs by like 7pm everyday. tons of admin and OTOT time. the entire company's instructors ( even the OC ) was practically barred from using any form of vulgarities. those who used them were warned by their higher ups. heard the OC was giving a speech once, where he said something along the lines of 'fu*king powerful, but take note! i use the word fu*king not because im a vulgar man, but because im trying to stress just how powerful this weapon is.' LOL is all i can say.
have u ever seen ur instructors during ur recruit days digging and setting the bloody sandbags for you? or having the specs run to the coy office to take out cough medicine for you? oh. guess what. for live range, they brought along a friggin TV and a DVD player. ( 100% true, had pple from my coy attached to them for reshoot. ) oh, for the 7day field camp, ya, altho now most coys are really quite relak already, for theirs, they had friggin clothes lines set up, and at night, when most other coys would practice rather strict light discipline, to quote my PC here, theirs was like 'deepavali'. saw it with my own eyes. red, blue, green lights everywhere. amazing. seriously ridiculous la. the treatment they get is... out of this world. -
delta wing will not only have him alone
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Well..Although there ain't white horse treatment..the superiors tend to give WH treatment themselves..
Someone bigger than TCH's son? hmm..can't be LHL/LHY's son wat...
Going to ask pple from Delta
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did Mr teo chean hean came down personally to tekong to see his son's POP parade?
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To be fair, there are higher-ups who do this sort of thing to save their own ass.And it does make others pissed off.
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i am from hawk coy, and i don't see anything wrong with such treatment. who is to say that the army is all about tekan?
why is it wrong to set up a clothesline in field camp? FYI, it was done on our own initiative, and nobody said you could not tie your toggle ropes from tree to tree. makes for a neater and better demarcated campsite.
Furthermore, is there such rules saying that range should have no DVD players and TV? that's rather surprising, would like to know the rationale for such a rule. don't you think this is initiative on the part of the commanders, and makes for better use of time rather than just sitting around waiting for your shooting detail.
And what is the point of reveille at 0530 to be doing 5BX and waiting for breakfast? the bloody SAF directive states that the minimum requirement for sleep is 7 hours, but i have never heard of anything that says more than that is harmful for soldiers. Don't we complete the same syllabus in the end? Didn't the whole HAWK Coy complete the whole POP, rather than some other companies, which had a few people fainting in the parade?
There is a difference between jealousy and truly being concerned about standards. For you, I would think it is the former. And FYI, TCH's son does not report sick much. Being in the same platoon, I can say that he only reported sick once, and even then, he was extremely reluctant to report sick for fear of missing training. It is easy to believe hearsay. Especially when they're sensational news. But if all you can do is regurgitate rumours, don't do it on a public forum, especially when someone's rep is at stake. -
Haha...Will the DVD players be there for the next batch, if it happens to be a non-WH batch? That's what I'm pretty interested to know..
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I just POP last week...my company Raven...well, one of the guy's father is a SWO...not kidding you guys...the recruit's name is Calvin from platoon 2 in Raven Apparently he says his father is an RSM...and when we asked who he reports to...he said his father reports only to the Chief of Army...
And my platoon had a guy whose father is the boss of the company who manufacture the SAF arms...his family friends are all the people who have "stars"...
Those guys...well they took the speedboat back home right after POP...sigh...and everyone else had to queue... -
Oh yea there was white horse treatment...apparently they got stuff like ice creams during live range...and the specs even took the pains to "ventilate
the stuffy air for them by MANUALLY fanning them with pieces of large cardboard...mind you...it was a 2nd SGT as well... -
Fair enough.We need both sides of the coin.Anyway, I was a former Hawk too.October 2004 PES C recourse.Originally posted by joie:i am from hawk coy, and i don't see anything wrong with such treatment. who is to say that the army is all about tekan?
why is it wrong to set up a clothesline in field camp? FYI, it was done on our own initiative, and nobody said you could not tie your toggle ropes from tree to tree. makes for a neater and better demarcated campsite.
Furthermore, is there such rules saying that range should have no DVD players and TV? that's rather surprising, would like to know the rationale for such a rule. don't you think this is initiative on the part of the commanders, and makes for better use of time rather than just sitting around waiting for your shooting detail.
And what is the point of reveille at 0530 to be doing 5BX and waiting for breakfast? the bloody SAF directive states that the minimum requirement for sleep is 7 hours, but i have never heard of anything that says more than that is harmful for soldiers. Don't we complete the same syllabus in the end? Didn't the whole HAWK Coy complete the whole POP, rather than some other companies, which had a few people fainting in the parade?
There is a difference between jealousy and truly being concerned about standards. For you, I would think it is the former. And FYI, TCH's son does not report sick much. Being in the same platoon, I can say that he only reported sick once, and even then, he was extremely reluctant to report sick for fear of missing training. It is easy to believe hearsay. Especially when they're sensational news. But if all you can do is regurgitate rumours, don't do it on a public forum, especially when someone's rep is at stake. -
Now this is a bit too much...Originally posted by Alexander_Jude:Oh yea there was white horse treatment...apparently they got stuff like ice creams during live range...and the specs even took the pains to "ventilate
the stuffy air for them by MANUALLY fanning them with pieces of large cardboard...mind you...it was a 2nd SGT as well... -
Originally posted by Alexander_Jude:Oh yea there was white horse treatment...apparently they got stuff like ice creams during live range...and the specs even took the pains to "ventilate
the stuffy air for them by MANUALLY fanning them with pieces of large cardboard...mind you...it was a 2nd SGT as well...
wait a minute, firstly, is it the whole company also have ice-cream or just the white horses have it?Originally posted by LazerLordz:Now this is a bit too much...
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Originally posted by joie:i am from hawk coy, and i don't see anything wrong with such treatment. who is to say that the army is all about tekan?
why is it wrong to set up a clothesline in field camp? FYI, it was done on our own initiative, and nobody said you could not tie your toggle ropes from tree to tree. makes for a neater and better demarcated campsite.
Furthermore, is there such rules saying that range should have no DVD players and TV? that's rather surprising, would like to know the rationale for such a rule. don't you think this is initiative on the part of the commanders, and makes for better use of time rather than just sitting around waiting for your shooting detail.
And what is the point of reveille at 0530 to be doing 5BX and waiting for breakfast? the bloody SAF directive states that the minimum requirement for sleep is 7 hours, but i have never heard of anything that says more than that is harmful for soldiers. Don't we complete the same syllabus in the end? Didn't the whole HAWK Coy complete the whole POP, rather than some other companies, which had a few people fainting in the parade?
There is a difference between jealousy and truly being concerned about standards. For you, I would think it is the former. And FYI, TCH's son does not report sick much. Being in the same platoon, I can say that he only reported sick once, and even then, he was extremely reluctant to report sick for fear of missing training. It is easy to believe hearsay. Especially when they're sensational news. But if all you can do is regurgitate rumours, don't do it on a public forum, especially when someone's rep is at stake.
1) I don't noe the standards for fieldcamp now. The purpose of the fieldcamp is to teach recruits how to live in the field with learning abt field discipline and roughing it out in the field. So i think setting up clothes line should not be part of the fieldcamp. remember your in the army, and not some boy scout camp in East Coast. i could not even throw away my combat ration packets. we had to store them in my fieldpack and bring it back to camp to throw. U try setting up a clothes line in as a trainee be it SISEPC or OCS. see how u kana whacked.
2) Well most BMT coys still don't practive A/V entertainment. Your there for live firing and not watching television. we had to clean our weapons constantly while not in the firing details and we could not even sleep or close our eyes. if any of the instructors caught is sleeping, we were all told to fall in outside and kana 30 min wake up session again . -
fair enough. perhaps the one thing i did wrong was commenting on someone else i did not know personally. for that, i sincerely apologize.Originally posted by joie:i am from hawk coy, and i don't see anything wrong with such treatment. who is to say that the army is all about tekan?
why is it wrong to set up a clothesline in field camp? FYI, it was done on our own initiative, and nobody said you could not tie your toggle ropes from tree to tree. makes for a neater and better demarcated campsite.
Furthermore, is there such rules saying that range should have no DVD players and TV? that's rather surprising, would like to know the rationale for such a rule. don't you think this is initiative on the part of the commanders, and makes for better use of time rather than just sitting around waiting for your shooting detail.
And what is the point of reveille at 0530 to be doing 5BX and waiting for breakfast? the bloody SAF directive states that the minimum requirement for sleep is 7 hours, but i have never heard of anything that says more than that is harmful for soldiers. Don't we complete the same syllabus in the end? Didn't the whole HAWK Coy complete the whole POP, rather than some other companies, which had a few people fainting in the parade?
There is a difference between jealousy and truly being concerned about standards. For you, I would think it is the former. And FYI, TCH's son does not report sick much. Being in the same platoon, I can say that he only reported sick once, and even then, he was extremely reluctant to report sick for fear of missing training. It is easy to believe hearsay. Especially when they're sensational news. But if all you can do is regurgitate rumours, don't do it on a public forum, especially when someone's rep is at stake.
HOWEVER. a blind man can easily see that this ridiculous white horse treatment is something that is absolutely ludicrious considering the REST OF THE ENTIRE SAF ( save for other WH coys in the training schs. ) do not get to enjoy. wake up. anyone else here can tell you that the one being extremely myopic and blind to the truth here is you.
perhaps when you get posted out you would come to see how much of a difference your WH treatment in that coy had been.
anyway, whatever i say, whatever you say, i think it matters little when even the CO of the whole friggin sch practically admitted to the preferential treatment himself. you still wanna argue with that?
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Forget it.He's still inured to army life.He'll learn...Unless he is the WH, then I have nothing more to say.Don't wanna waste my breath talking to someone who thinks army is a chalet when most of us had to suffer in one form or another.Originally posted by one-niner:
1) I don't noe the standards for fieldcamp now. The purpose of the fieldcamp is to teach recruits how to live in the field with learning abt field discipline and roughing it out in the field. So i think setting up clothes line should not be part of the fieldcamp. remember your in the army, and not some boy scout camp in East Coast. i could not even throw away my combat ration packets. we had to store them in my fieldpack and bring it back to camp to throw. U try setting up a clothes line in as a trainee be it SISEPC or OCS. see how u kana whacked.
2) Well most BMT coys still don't practive A/V entertainment. Your there for live firing and not watching television. we had to clean our weapons constantly while not in the firing details and we could not even sleep or close our eyes. if any of the instructors caught is sleeping, we were all told to fall in outside and kana 30 min wake up session again .
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Maybe should as Mr Ged to relay his old posting on his CDO days when his platoon had some white horse whos dad was with SINGTEL and then how fit and buff was he and when it came to training, he was bawling like a small kid. and had to be bailed out by his dad ..
You may enjoy it now, wait till you get posted to your Unit or school, then see if they will still give u A/V entertainment ..u will be thankful if u could just return to your bunk and lay on your bed and sleep. -
Whoo boy - is this what has become of the army? When did proper training become tekan?
Why is it wrong to set up a clothesline in field camp? Because it's completely against field discipline, that's why. If you can even ask this question, I think you answered your own question about completing the syllabus, because this is as basic to soldiering as the three R's are to schooling.Originally posted by joie:why is it wrong to set up a clothesline in field camp? FYI, it was done on our own initiative, and nobody said you could not tie your toggle ropes from tree to tree. makes for a neater and better demarcated campsite.
All right, since your instructors sucked at their jobs, let me explain the idea of field discipline to you. The two objectives of of field discipline are:
1) to leave no trace of your having been in a location
2) to be ready to move at any time.
Here's a little-known rule that your instructors seems to have left out of the syllabus: if the enemy can FIND you, he can KILL you. Surprising, isn't it? Leave traces of your existence in the field, and you may as well lay down a welcome mat for him to come and get you.
So, how does this relate to laying clotheslines out in the field? First, you're effectively putting up a flag for the enemy to find. Second, the toggle rope or comms cord that you're using as the line leaves marks on bark - it's not a natural occurrence, and anybody patrolling will know for sure that another human being has been there. I may be overly optimistic in assuming that your instructors taught you rubbish discipline, but the same principle applies - a trail of rubbish in the field leads right back to you.
Second, you need to be ready to move at any time. The enemy is not going to make an appointment to pop you a new rectum in your forehead. It's going to happen quietly and suddenly, and if your men are making sure that they get their 7 hours' sleep, the first you're going to know about it is when you feel the pinprick of a stiletto just as it enters your brain stem. If you're lucky, you won't get one of our guys, and instead get someone who prefers to shoot the enemy. In that case, you're extermely lucky if you're on your feet before the tenth man gets turned into mincemeat by the enemy's MG.
Where does that situation leave you? You've got your rifle and SBO and maybe, just maybe, your full pack - sans clothes. Chances are that if you're feeling comfortable enough to set up a laundry at your LUP, you've also left all manner of equipment out of your pack. You have to bug out of there because an enemy company is overrunning your position, and you're left with less than half the equipment that you came in with - equipment that you may just need to get out.
THAT is why you don't set up a clothesline in the field!
Did you have a DVD player in your classroom while waiting for an exam to start? No. Why? Because you were supposed to be focussing on what you were going to do once you were allowed to turn the question paper over.Originally posted by joie:Furthermore, is there such rules saying that range should have no DVD players and TV? that's rather surprising, would like to know the rationale for such a rule. don't you think this is initiative on the part of the commanders, and makes for better use of time rather than just sitting around waiting for your shooting detail.
Now I know it may be a bit of a stretch of the imagination for you, but here's a crazy idea: maybe you were supposed to be focussing on your weapon-handling technique before your turn on the range. I know, that makes absolutely no sense - it's absolutely crazy that you would need to practice shooting, right? Hell, all you ned to do is get up there, squeeze the trigger a few times and get it over with, so that you can get back to your movie. Who cares if you hit your target? What? Oh yes, there was a target 300 metres down range - you were too busy watching your movie to notice.
Man, these Army rules make absolutely no sense whatsoever!
Ah, now we get to the reville issue. Hmm - guess what's the best time to launch an attack? No, the enemy isn't as inconsiderate as to interrupt your lunch with an attack - they'll be nice and courteous and do it at dawn. Gee, is there a correlation between 0530 revilles and dawn? How bizzarre!Originally posted by joie:And what is the point of reveille at 0530 to be doing 5BX and waiting for breakfast? the bloody SAF directive states that the minimum requirement for sleep is 7 hours, but i have never heard of anything that says more than that is harmful for soldiers. Don't we complete the same syllabus in the end? Didn't the whole HAWK Coy complete the whole POP, rather than some other companies, which had a few people fainting in the parade?
Tell you what - you go get your 7 hours' sleep - the rest of the guys will have a war to fight.
Why didn't Hawk Coy have anyone fall out? It would have been terribly disappointing if you did. After all, the guys from the other companies were tired from their training, but you were relatively fresh and relaxed, what with all the movies you were watching.
There is a difference between safety standards and plain sloppiness. For you, I think it's the latter.Originally posted by joie:There is a difference between jealousy and truly being concerned about standards. For you, I would think it is the former. And FYI, TCH's son does not report sick much. Being in the same platoon, I can say that he only reported sick once, and even then, he was extremely reluctant to report sick for fear of missing training. It is easy to believe hearsay. Especially when they're sensational news. But if all you can do is regurgitate rumours, don't do it on a public forum, especially when someone's rep is at stake.
The very fact that you had to ask about clotheslines shows that, despite passing out, you do not understand the very fundamental, basic principles of soldiering - simple lessons to keep you alive. The fact that you argue for your right to have a DVD player on the range shows that your mind was not on the job. Yeah yeah, it's national service, not a job you want, who's going to have a war anyway.... we've heard it all before.
It does not get around the fact that you had a job to do, and you didn't do it. Neither did your instructors, for that matter.
The measure of a man is his ability and willingness to do what has to be done, not just what he wants to do. In that respect, you've failed miserably. It's nothing to do with you being a White Horse - it's all to do with you being irresponsible and shallow, and I would say exactly the same thing to anyone of any status who posted your questions. -
No need to - it's on page 2 of this thread.Originally posted by one-niner:Maybe should as Mr Ged to relay his old posting on his CDO days when his platoon had some white horse whos dad was with SINGTEL and then how fit and buff was he and when it came to training, he was bawling like a small kid. and had to be bailed out by his dad .. -
Thanks for the reality vaccine..Though some people might not find it effective.Sigh..We served, though unhappily, and for what?Some "Pak Cham Kai" to watch DVDs at range?That basically goes against anything I've seen.Even us recourse fellows, we have this sense of professionalism, at the very least, we still do things in a manner that does not let anyone down.Originally posted by Gedanken:Whoo boy - is this what has become of the army? When did proper training become tekan?
There is a difference between safety standards and plain sloppiness. For you, I think it's the latter.
The very fact that you had to ask about clotheslines shows that, despite passing out, you do not understand the very fundamental, basic principles of soldiering - simple lessons to keep you alive. The fact that you argue for your right to have a DVD player on the range shows that your mind was not on the job. Yeah yeah, it's national service, not a job you want, who's going to have a war anyway.... we've heard it all before.
It does not get around the fact that you had a job to do, and you didn't do it. Neither did your instructors, for that matter.
The measure of a man is his ability and willingness to do what has to be done, not just what he wants to do. In that respect, you've failed miserably. It's nothing to do with you being a White Horse - it's all to do with you being irresponsible and shallow, and I would say exactly the same thing to anyone of any status who posted your questions. -
If there's one thing even the hokkien pengs take away from BMT, it's the appreciation of how the discipline of the army is deliberately designed to keep soldiers alive.
Joie doesn't seem to have grasped this very simple point. He takes field camp to be an exercise in either real estate management or landscaping, shows less focus than one could reasonably expect from a primary school kid and believes MINDEF owes him his beauty sleep.
What really galls me is how proud he actually is of his lack of insight and achievement, and how he thinks that standing through a parade after all that relaxation makes him bigger than the guys who fell out after having done the real work.
I wouldn't trust this guy to be a waterboy. He'd end up drinking all the water once he was done with watering the plants, and then claim that all of that gardening was a bigger achievement because he was still there when the shooting stopped - after all, the other wimps dropped dead when they got shot.
The sad fact of the matter is that this simpleton from the (as he claims) great Hawk company has achieved less than his farmer-son counterparts, but he sees nothing wrong with that. Instead, he tries to regale real soldiers with stories of his "initiative", when his BMT really sounds like a bad remake of Stripes and Private Benjamin.
Let's face it, this guy's much more of a liability than an asset. The enemy would be doing us a favour by slitting his throat. -
Damn right.It does not matter how much money your father earns or even if you are liberal in thinking.It's about having the maturity of thought to understand how certain things are done in certain situations.Originally posted by Gedanken:If there's one thing even the hokkien pengs take away from BMT, it's the appreciation of how the discipline of the army is deliberately designed to keep soldiers alive.
Joie doesn't seem to have grasped this very simple point. He takes field camp to be an exercise in either real estate management or landscaping, shows less focus than one could reasonably expect from a primary school kid and believes MINDEF owes him his beauty sleep.
What really galls me is how proud he actually is of his lack of insight and achievement, and how he thinks that standing through a parade after all that relaxation makes him bigger than the guys who fell out after having done the real work.
I wouldn't trust this guy to be a waterboy. He'd end up drinking all the water once he was done with watering the plants, and then claim that all of that gardening was a bigger achievement because he was still there when the shooting stopped - after all, the other wimps dropped dead when they got shot.
The sad fact of the matter is that this simpleton from the (as he claims) great Hawk company has achieved less than his farmer-son counterparts, but he sees nothing wrong with that. Instead, he tries to regale real soldiers with stories of his "initiative", when his BMT really sounds like a bad remake of Stripes and Private Benjamin.
Let's face it, this guy's much more of a liability than an asset. The enemy would be doing us a favour by slitting his throat.
Me?I don't know who this Joie guy is, but his behaviour is clearly appalling.And if he displays such attitudes in work or study, and still get away with it, then I just have to point out that the more you run away, the less likely you will notice the wall in front of you.And when you run smack into it, you will not have the honed experience to tell you how to climb over it.
Not all things in life are soft, comfy and sweet.You need some of the pain and suffering to cherish what soft, comfy and sweet things are.
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Hawk was practically a white horse stable before the last Sch 1 POP. Not only was TCH's son there, Army RSM's son was also there, as well as the offsprings of a Retired BG and COL. The irony is that Hawk is known as one of the most xiong Sch 1 coys. So needless to say LTC David Lim (CO) and LTA Melvin Yong (OC Hawk) were kept very much on their toes the past four months.Originally posted by joie:i am from hawk coy, and i don't see anything wrong with such treatment. who is to say that the army is all about tekan?
why is it wrong to set up a clothesline in field camp? FYI, it was done on our own initiative, and nobody said you could not tie your toggle ropes from tree to tree. makes for a neater and better demarcated campsite.
Furthermore, is there such rules saying that range should have no DVD players and TV? that's rather surprising, would like to know the rationale for such a rule. don't you think this is initiative on the part of the commanders, and makes for better use of time rather than just sitting around waiting for your shooting detail.
And what is the point of reveille at 0530 to be doing 5BX and waiting for breakfast? the bloody SAF directive states that the minimum requirement for sleep is 7 hours, but i have never heard of anything that says more than that is harmful for soldiers. Don't we complete the same syllabus in the end? Didn't the whole HAWK Coy complete the whole POP, rather than some other companies, which had a few people fainting in the parade?
There is a difference between jealousy and truly being concerned about standards. For you, I would think it is the former. And FYI, TCH's son does not report sick much. Being in the same platoon, I can say that he only reported sick once, and even then, he was extremely reluctant to report sick for fear of missing training. It is easy to believe hearsay. Especially when they're sensational news. But if all you can do is regurgitate rumours, don't do it on a public forum, especially when someone's rep is at stake.