TeN rEaSonS to HaTe NaTiOnaL seRvIce....
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u said no one bothers about war anymore?Originally posted by kindaichi83:Anyway, to the noname guy who said there are still wars going on...
of course war will only happened if people who have no heart decided to start one.. just like worst fu**ing son of a b&$ch.... GWB... I hope he died a tragic death.... and Singapore will never win a war....
so what u really mean is that no one with a heart bothers about war anymore?
sure, unless its a just war.
i have no qualms about your hatred for GWB.
but would you like to elaborate on your postulation that Singapore will never win a war? care to substantiate? -
Actually this whole thing is not about NS... It's about doing the things you hate!
Not only for NS, but in life and work, there will many things you hate to do, but you have to do them... I'm sure ppl who are working will know this...
So face with this, what are you gonna do? If you can, quit. If you don't do, you will be saboing other ppl who have to do your shit, and I think that's very irresponsible... So I will do it to the best of my ability even though I hate it...
Yes, some ppl's aptitude are less suited for NS, but it's not about that... It's about your ATTITUDE when faced with things you hate...
I serve to the best of my ability NOT because I love the army or the government, or the officers or specialists...
I serve because I don't want to sabo my fellow soldiers, who are doing the same shit as me, and will have to do MORE if I don't...
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somehow i agree with cpl ho.
not completely,
but more or less.
i know intellectuals who went through ns
did not like it
but they had to go through it.
and so they did.
when they came out, they still hate it.
so yeah, ns will always be hated by some people. -
Anyway, I agree with CPL Ho.. I never for once, at least up to now, sabo any of my fellow collegues.. I do whatever sh&& that is being forced upon me.. it's sad but true...
Anyway, here are the reasons why Singapore will never win a war...
10) Not enough water
9) Not enough food
Not enough people
7) Not enough nature habitat to hide and plan an ambush
6) Too many flats.. just a few more 911 and we'll have to surrender
5) Our army only trained us mainly in jungle warfare which is only useful if we go to other countries and attack them.. if some other country come and attack us, it will be so bloody useless
4) Most of our people prefer to flee than to stay on and fight and most have the capital to do it
3) Our country is too small, one bomb and we chui already...
2) Everyone thinks we are very secured so when war comes, no one will be prepared..
1) Alot of people hate NS so they would not even want to fight for Singapore.. to show how wrong Singapore is for implementing this kind of thing.. -
Oh, the audacity of it all ...
here is something amazing.
There is? Name me one, preferably one with a 4m population or so & also self-reliant on its own sovereignty defence.
there are nations that have lots and lots matured adults
even without a national service!of course no ns does not mean a seamless transition into working life.
Convince me: How do they exactly mature, if I set the bar at age 20-21 (usual ORD time)?
but then again, if we are to take those 2 years,
then either way you do mature.
hmm..
how do i teach the concept of relativity?
------ps----ss--ts--ns--un-------------------------------------------------------wk
------ps----ss--ts--un--wk-------------------------------------------------------wkyeah, teens are immatured.
No, that's a fallacy of slothful induction, since our NS is neither novel or recent. See my earlier post. The pre-enlistment social mores & occupational trends I highlighted have historical precedent, objectively studied by local sociologists & psychologists (eg. Leong Choon Cheng's late-'70s "Youth in the Army") to help profile youthful aspirations for the area of policy-planning. While ever evolving, it's still already a case of been there/done that. Hollow point unless you're arguing from experience, which you're not.
but when they are forced into the working world,
within a year, they realise, damn! daddy and mummy were right!and if ns is really that educational,
Deja vu - seems like it's every year that letter writers would comment the same to the Straits Times forum age. To clarify (again): NS is primarily for military defence; that's separate from even nation-building designs (local context), let alone as vehicle for "educational experience" or gender emancipation. The top priority is a fighting-fit organization - & hence why the SAF doesn't call up not just females, but also 1st-generation naturalised citizens & the older new permanent residents.
why not send girls in too?
not for direct ns,
but for the experience it grants?
unless you like having double standards of course.sense of patriotism, national consciousness - patriotism is childish. you should go for ns not because you love the country, but because you want to protect your loved ones. =)
I think you're confusing patriotism with something else - that worked up? ~roflamo~ P.S. I "go for ns" cuz I answered the call, that's all. So, on behalf of all who's served/is serving the country, we have to "explain ourselves to a man who rises & sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom we provide, then questions the manner in which we provide it"? (paraphrasing Jack Nicholson.) Lemme guess, you're gonna be like one of the selfish ang-mo who sneaked away back in January 1941.let me tell you something.
Well, you're not making a strong case for convincing at all.
its effective, but ns is not the only place where people mature.
it does work very well,
but if you are going in for that,
well, you will like it,
OTHERS DON'T!
AS AMAZING AS IT SOUNDS! -
Haha... Glad you guys can see my point...Originally posted by kindaichi83:Anyway, I agree with CPL Ho.. I never for once, at least up to now, sabo any of my fellow collegues.. I do whatever sh&& that is being forced upon me.. it's sad but true...
Anyway, here are the reasons why Singapore will never win a war...
10) Not enough water
9) Not enough food Not enough people
7) Not enough nature habitat to hide and plan an ambush
6) Too many flats.. just a few more 911 and we'll have to surrender
5) Our army only trained us mainly in jungle warfare which is only useful if we go to other countries and attack them.. if some other country come and attack us, it will be so bloody useless
4) Most of our people prefer to flee than to stay on and fight and most have the capital to do it
3) Our country is too small, one bomb and we chui already...
2) Everyone thinks we are very secured so when war comes, no one will be prepared..
1) Alot of people hate NS so they would not even want to fight for Singapore.. to show how wrong Singapore is for implementing this kind of thing..
But just in case you all think I'm a siow on guy or what, just look at my signature... It's a poem that I read on the wall at FIBUA village... some 'lao jeow qian bei' wrote it and it describes how i feel at that time during NS and sometimes during work now... Anyway, I have the same words pasted on my table at work... Hope my department head reads it.... 
Okie, now let's discuss your point about S'pore winning a war and how we planned to meet the challenge if it arrives... Btw, it's not my theory, it's SAF theory adopted from the Israelis, I think...
10) That's why we will move up to Johor once any enemy threaten that state.
9) Most of our food is imported, so same point as 10) and our navy will secure the Straits of Malacca. This is the reason for the numerous pro-family policies today. eg. 5 day working day. And a very lax immigration laws for Chinese nationals.
7) 6) and 5) same point as 10, we will be fighting in the jungles of Malaysia and mayb even as far as Thailand...
4) Yes! This is a big concern.. Hence we have NE in schools, and they make sure S'poreans' money is stuck with their flat and in their CPF. For the very rich, no problem, but for majority, where can we go with no money...
3) same point as 10
2) Eh... dun sabo leh... you lidat say I'll have more mob leh...
1) Military analysts have mentioned this is SAF's biggest weakness... SAF is a untested army... no one really knows how good is the fighting spirit... But SAF seems to believe technology can overcome this, ie. hit the enemy without having to see him eyeball to eyeball, which we will definitely lose... cos I feel other countries' soldiers are much more garang...
Most of my points come from Tim Huxley's book, defending the lion city... very detailed... must give credit... -
Quite true.However, the flaw we see here today is that we might not have placed enough emphasis on urban counter-insurgency defence in case of a terrorist attack inside our soil.It is good that we are taking concrete stpes to fortify our homeland installations.To fight a conventional war on home soil already means that you are close to defeat.But the former scenarios need to be planned out against too, no matter how unlikely.We do live in interesting times, as the ancient Chinese adage goes.A well-trained CQB force can serve dual roles as a POI force in peacetime, and a harrassment/aggressor force should we ever have to fight a hypothetical conventional war at our doorsteps or in any peacekeeping mission overseas.Originally posted by Cpl Ho:Haha... Glad you guys can see my point... But just in case you all think I'm a siow on guy or what, just look at my signature... It's a poem that I read on the wall at FIBUA village... some 'lao jeow qian bei' wrote it and it describes how i feel at that time during NS and sometimes during work now... Anyway, I have the same words pasted on my table at work... Hope my department head reads it....
Okie, now let's discuss your point about S'pore winning a war and how we planned to meet the challenge if it arrives... Btw, it's not my theory, it's SAF theory adopted from the Israelis, I think...
10) That's why we will move up to Johor once any enemy threaten that state.
9) Most of our food is imported, so same point as 10) and our navy will secure the Straits of Malacca. This is the reason for the numerous pro-family policies today. eg. 5 day working day. And a very lax immigration laws for Chinese nationals.
7) 6) and 5) same point as 10, we will be fighting in the jungles of Malaysia and mayb even as far as Thailand...
4) Yes! This is a big concern.. Hence we have NE in schools, and they make sure S'poreans' money is stuck with their flat and in their CPF. For the very rich, no problem, but for majority, where can we go with no money...
3) same point as 10
2) Eh... dun sabo leh... you lidat say I'll have more mob leh...
1) Military analysts have mentioned this is SAF's biggest weakness... SAF is a untested army... no one really knows how good is the fighting spirit... But SAF seems to believe technology can overcome this, ie. hit the enemy without having to see him eyeball to eyeball, which we will definitely lose... cos I feel other countries' soldiers are much more garang...
Most of my points come from Tim Huxley's book, defending the lion city... very detailed... must give credit... -
Well, IMHO, when it comes to matters of defence and security, S'pore is definitely an overkill... Long term detention of alleged communists for indefinte periods, hijackers with penknife and firecrackers killed by SOF, anti-war protestors arrested even though there were only a handful of them outside the American embassy, and the latest JI members detained even before they finish sketching their plans... Our ISD seems damn efficient... or is bcos they xiao on nothing to do always in search for 'enemy of the state'...Originally posted by LazerLordz:Quite true.However, the flaw we see here today is that we might not have placed enough emphasis on urban counter-insurgency defence in case of a terrorist attack inside our soil.It is good that we are taking concrete stpes to fortify our homeland installations.To fight a conventional war on home soil already means that you are close to defeat.But the former scenarios need to be planned out against too, no matter how unlikely.We do live in interesting times, as the ancient Chinese adage goes.A well-trained CQB force can serve dual roles as a POI force in peacetime, and a harrassment/aggressor force should we ever have to fight a hypothetical conventional war at our doorsteps or in any peacekeeping mission overseas.
My point is I cannot foresee having to fight infiltrators in S'pore loh... Unlike US, S'pore is so damn small, I dun see how they can slipped into S'pore unnoticed... Probably that's why the terrorist attacks in our region is at Indonesia.... And in typical kiasu fashion, S'pore has taken the necessary precautions... -
Fight in Thailand or Malaysia? Why would we fight in these countries when our country is being attacked? We have to fight in our own 'small' land which is pratically useless. A tank can't even move with these flats around. Just a few '911' and Singapore will have to surrender.
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Cos if we fight in S'pore, our country will be devastated because we're so small and congested with flats, like what you said...Originally posted by kindaichi83:Fight in Thailand or Malaysia? Why would we fight in these countries when our country is being attacked? We have to fight in our own 'small' land which is pratically useless. A tank can't even move with these flats around. Just a few '911' and Singapore will have to surrender.
Conventional land troops have to pass M'sia if they want to get to S'pore, so when we see aggressors moving down S'pore, we'll move up liao... I'm sure M'sia knows this... When my friends and I drove around all the states of M'sia during our tour, we noticed most of their army camps are concentrated in the north, not south... It's clear where they expect the threat is coming from...
Conventional amphibious attacks are prevented by early detection, our early warning system seems the most sophisticated in SEA... with early airborne radar E2C Hawkeye flying over our skys everyday... Just be observant next time when there's a plane flying... They should be detected when they're at Malaysian or Indonesian waters...
911 type of incidents can only be prevented by good intelligence, not a big army... and looking at the recent JI arrests where members were arrested when they took a few photos and make a few sketches, I think the ISD is up to the task... -
True.The politico-security apparatus is too efficient in my opinion.They could very well spend their resources on foreign counter-intle instead of wasting time targeting legitimate acts of political disagreement.The police is there to provide peace patrol.Originally posted by Cpl Ho:Well, IMHO, when it comes to matters of defence and security, S'pore is definitely an overkill... Long term detention of alleged communists for indefinte periods, hijackers with penknife and firecrackers killed by SOF, anti-war protestors arrested even though there were only a handful of them outside the American embassy, and the latest JI members detained even before they finish sketching their plans... Our ISD seems damn efficient... or is bcos they xiao on nothing to do always in search for 'enemy of the state'...
My point is I cannot foresee having to fight infiltrators in S'pore loh... Unlike US, S'pore is so damn small, I dun see how they can slipped into S'pore unnoticed... Probably that's why the terrorist attacks in our region is at Indonesia.... And in typical kiasu fashion, S'pore has taken the necessary precautions... -
This is the 1st TIME, SBSK is going to stop talking cock.Originally posted by kindaichi83:Fight in Thailand or Malaysia? Why would we fight in these countries when our country is being attacked? We have to fight in our own 'small' land which is pratically useless. A tank can't even move with these flats around. Just a few '911' and Singapore will have to surrender.
1. "911" Do you know how many planes needed to down 100 HDB flats?
Do you even know how the 2 WTC buildings get downed in the first place??
the 1st one was due to the fuel inside the jet melting the iron beams in the both buildings
What makes you think you can hijack 100 SIA planes , and simultaneously
fly them , through a air force which is armed with 100 AIM-120 and hundreds of F-16 Falcons?
2. Our country adopts defending attack , that means if neighbours attack,
our forces will fight in our homeground , wherelse the other forces
will fight in their country, tit for tat etc..
3. The tanks are not for deployment in urbanised areas..
Green tanks in urban areas...( very bad camo i would say)
4. Regarding foreign invaders, from afar, they would have been spotted
by our (UAV) , we got AWACS( recently upgraded and able to cover
about 24 hours of the time) that means invaders from afar would not
be able to do attack.
That leaves the only stuff , which is through terrorist and stuffs..
Singapore is small , also can say easier to defend..
With more chinese nationals coming from CN , forming into our ethnic majority ,
i believe we will reach 5 or 6 million..soon.
If terrorists attack through unconventional methods, NOTE that terrorist damage is limited, at most kill 30-50 pple , will not topple govt
Where-else national security lives lost could be about thousands..
and government gone..
The crucial issue at stake here , whether u can try to be alert 100%,
cock up still happens, and we cannot afford it..
but we try our best.
Regarding national security and security against terrorism ,
as long as SG people realise that terrorism and loss of lives is not THE WAY.
Most likely , if SG gets attacked and OCCUPIED.
You think they will have a good time?
Hah, there will be HUNDREDS of Force 136 around..
Good luck.
What i fear is that , our ability to co-exist with our neighbours fails,
don't FORGET , some of TNI forces is involved in raping,stealing and hunting down ethnic chinese in indonesia 1998 , thats why poor human rights record
and USA stopped selling weapon spares.
And thats not so long ago..And don't forget , robbers and burglars in JB, often target singaporean cars...(those singaporean haters)
1 Fact we must face up to.
and China wouldn't be a security threat to singapore until the taiwan issue is resolved and it needs more land -
There is? Name me one, preferably one with a 4m population or so & also self-reliant on its own sovereignty defence.
so how do our girls mature, since they did not go ns?
by going into the working and getting hell. and eventually sobering up.
Convince me: How do they exactly mature, if I set the bar at age 20-21 (usual ORD time)?
hmm...maybe you are right.
but lets face it..
2 years to mature?
its overkill.
others have already pointed out that ns should be taken as a learning experience.
if you want to mature people, then you can always send them to a FBI field agent training course.*
whats the sg version?
anyway, i never contradicted your claims that ns is a place of maturity.
i pointed out that ns is NOT THE ONLY PLACE for maturity.
notice the words NOT and ONLY.
and add them to your dictionary.Deja vu - seems like it's every year that letter writers would comment the same to the Straits Times forum age. To clarify (again): NS is primarily for military defence; that's separate from even nation-building designs (local context), let alone as vehicle for "educational experience" or gender emancipation. The top priority is a fighting-fit organization - & hence why the SAF doesn't call up not just females, but also 1st-generation naturalised citizens & the older new permanent residents.
isn't that my point?
ns is not the only place to mature.
but because it is compulsory, so we have to make full use of it.
girls don't have to do it precisely because they are not suited for ns, i agree.
but you completely missed the point, which is that ns is not the only place for maturity.
i was attacking the idea that ns is the only place where guys mature.
thats ridiculous.
otherwise our girls will be immatured!
i was only giving a hypothetical situation, in accordance to your claims of only ns matures people.I think you're confusing patriotism with something else - that worked up? ~roflamo~ P.S. I "go for ns" cuz I answered the call, that's all. So, on behalf of all who's served/is serving the country, we have to "explain ourselves to a man who rises & sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom we provide, then questions the manner in which we provide it"? (paraphrasing Jack Nicholson.) Lemme guess, you're gonna be like one of the selfish ang-mo who sneaked away back in January 1941.
lemme guess, you are one of those people whose brain stop working after a few seconds of thinking.
if i am to protect my loved ones,
how am i going to do that if i sneak away?
did i even say you are patriotic?
i didn't even attack those who protect us.
i attack those who go into ns because of the loyalty to the country.
your protection should be due to wanting to serve the people, not because of the state.
there's actually a difference...No, that's a fallacy of slothful induction, since our NS is neither novel or recent. See my earlier post. The pre-enlistment social mores & occupational trends I highlighted have historical precedent, objectively studied by local sociologists & psychologists (eg. Leong Choon Cheng's late-'70s "Youth in the Army" to help profile youthful aspirations for the area of policy-planning. While ever evolving, it's still already a case of been there/done that. Hollow point unless you're arguing from experience, which you're not.
ns did all those because it was compulsory.
like me explain.
in france, there was a rebellion because the king, louis XVI, was a imbecile( more or less)
your argument is that there was a rebellion because of king louis XVI
my argument is that there was a rebellion because the king was an idiot.
i agree, ns does mature people.
i never said it doesn't.
but to say it is the only way to mature people is a moronic thing to say, in my honest to hell opinion.
*or maybe a "what to do when buggers try to takeover our country and intend make us slaves" six months course, with a BMT before that.
training in counter terrorism. by using thier terrorist methods against them.
civillian army.
really civilian.
fighting terrorism with their very tactics..
ah hahaha~!
and then we have caches of weapons stored in hidden places, which will only reveal themselves when the govt opens them up.
they will come out of anyway, like even the pavement. or even the playground in your neighbourhood. or those tables sliding away at the void deck to reveal a passage down into a tunnel full of weapons.
to prevent people from trying to seek them out, a camera will be installed at the caches of weapons. and an alarm. very very loud alarm. a specific alarm that warns people to do the right thing.
well its just in case our frontline defense somehow fails to protect us.
ok.. that was too radical.
but better than mrt trains transforming into giant robots, and coming out of their tunnels to protect us.
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Apollo861,
Whether you realized it or not, you're fitting exactly into the character profile I've posted earlier about the pre-enlistees. You're no different, period. Guess things really hasn't changed after 30 years.
I don't wish to pick a fight, esp. with a keng chio kia who isn't arguing from evidence & is now going off-tangent into worldly philosophy. F^uck this "hypothetical situation" (your quote) business.
If you haven't done it, go through NS first - or detention-barracks or exempted status or overseas absconder or whatever - come back wiser, & we'll exchange notes again. Put some hair on them chest, fire in them belly, meat in them loins - before you show up again on a SAF board that's lurking with citizen soldiers (inc. present & ex-DI's who drummed sense into a lot of recruits), & try to play hantam-bola about "patriotism is childish".
At least, with Kindaichi83, he's spewing out his frustrations while in the service. -
There is nothing wrong with saying patriotism is childish.It's precisely how many people choose to define patriotism, that makes it childish at times because it demands unflinching and brain-dead loyalty.Patriotism can be evil when it makes up the primary motivating force to move beyond acceptable human conduct and into the realm of being a beast.War is never a good thing, and one more pecenik is more than welcome than those who seek to dominate through acts of violence which only expound our base nature.Originally posted by Moxie:Apollo861,
Whether you realized it or not, you're fitting exactly into the character profile I've posted earlier about the pre-enlistees. You're no different, period. Guess things really hasn't changed after 30 years.
I don't wish to pick a fight, esp. with a keng chio kia who isn't arguing from evidence & is now going off-tangent into worldly philosophy. F^uck this "hypothetical situation" (your quote) business.
If you haven't done it, go through NS first - or detention-barracks or exempted status or overseas absconder or whatever - come back wiser, & we'll exchange notes again. Put some hair on them chest, fire in them belly, meat in them loins - before you show up again on a SAF board that's lurking with citizen soldiers (inc. present & ex-DI's who drummed sense into a lot of recruits), & try to play hantam-bola about "patriotism is childish".
At least, with Kindaichi83, he's spewing out his frustrations while in the service.
If a man has not served, does it mean he cannot speak?His views will be different because of his circumstances.Have we become so brainwashed by the system that we view a post like apollo861's with distaste and revulsion, not to mention scant respect?Please ponder carefully, NS is not your life, nor is it your legacy.It's just something that you had to do for 2 or 2.5 yrs of your life that's all.When you fight for your loved ones, you do so because you are human and you love them, not because of some patriotism bullcrap. -
Patriotism can be evil when it makes up the primary motivating force to move beyond acceptable human conduct and into the realm of being a beast.War is never a good thing, and one more pecenik is more than welcome than those who seek to dominate through acts of violence which only expound our base nature.
Patriotism's not so hawkish, lah. It's simply devotion to one country & its fundamental values & principles, plus it's also parochial in outlook. Civil ideals, good citizenship, public-spiritedness, community-mindedness, loyalty - all of them are patriotic values.
Only when you add in another element does it sometimes mutated into nationalism (good & bad) or chauvinism. [IMO Communalism, on the other hand, is separate altogether.]
Like I said, don't confuse it with something else.
Confucius, Plato, Gandhi, Lu Xun, Qu Yuan, Wong Fei Hung - are they not patriots? All of them espoused for the betterment of their societies, out of love for country, without actually resorting to saber rattling. Among local personalities, if patriotism is really childish, then - gosh - how silly of that Venerable Shi Ming Yi to rappel down Suntec, or Ang Peng Siong to stay on with swimming, or Sim Wong Hoo to still base Creative in S'pore. -
I stand corrected, it's the mutated form of patriotism that is afflicting us right now.
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USELESS CAUSE?!!?!!?! well fuck. if it wasn't for the SAF, you wouldn't be sleeping in your bed peacefully, if it wasn't for the SAF, you wouldn't be out clubbing and hooking up females like Mr.Slick. if it wasn't for SAF, we might be living under another country's flag. Wake up your fucking idea kid. No one is going to protect your home for you. YOU do IT YOURSELF. You don't know how it's like to have lost a loved one. Lost cause, my fuckin' ass.Originally posted by boy in blues:i got only 1 reason. waste of time for a useless cause -
Not really , we wouldn't be under another countries's flag.Originally posted by -zefiris-:USELESS CAUSE?!!?!!?! well fuck. if it wasn't for the SAF, you wouldn't be sleeping in your bed peacefully, if it wasn't for the SAF, you wouldn't be out clubbing and hooking up females like Mr.Slick. if it wasn't for SAF, we might be living under another country's flag. Wake up your fucking idea kid. No one is going to protect your home for you. YOU do IT YOURSELF. You don't know how it's like to have lost a loved one. Lost cause, my fuckin' ass.
1. Malaya kicked us out of the Federation in 1965 August 9 ,
a so called "divorce"
Comments: Why would they occupy us again , after they kick us out?
You don't know how it's like to have lost a loved one
2. I believe you are a guy here , nope , in war-time, the enemy wouldn't
rape the females first , note that before the "Rape of Nanjing" in WWII
The japanese killed all ABLE-BODIED men before raping the women
Comments: So you wouldn't get any chance know how it's like to lose a loved one
3. USELESS CAUSE?!!?!!?! well fuck. if it wasn't for the SAF, you wouldn't be sleeping in your bed peacefully, if it wasn't for the SAF, you wouldn't be out clubbing and hooking up females like Mr.Slick
Comments : Not just SAF, but singapore police force and SCDF and ambulance
NS might and might not be a waste of time depending on perspective,
for pple who desperate for $500 , might be good.
For pple who describe NS man as "underpaid slaves paid lowly to die for country"
You can choose to agree or dis-agree , it is a fact,but we must know that our nation cannot support to pay each NS man $1000 SGD or else our budget will
go beyond $10 BILLION SGD.
You all might say, no war = waste of time, but 2 years of your life to guarentee
your survival is not bad, each person gets to live 80 years.
IMAGINE PAYING 2 YEARS TO LIVE FOR 80 YEARS...
ISN'T THAT THE BEST INSURANCE PREMIUM EVER?
signing off,
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Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:
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[b]Not really , we wouldn't be under another countries's flag.
1. Malaya kicked us out of the Federation in 1965 August 9 ,
a so called "divorce"
Comments: Why would they occupy us again , after they kick us out?
You don't know how it's like to have lost a loved one
2. I believe you are a guy here , nope , in war-time, the enemy wouldn't
rape the females first , note that before the "Rape of Nanjing" in WWII
The japanese killed all ABLE-BODIED men before raping the women
Comments: So you wouldn't get any chance know how it's like to lose a loved one
3. USELESS CAUSE?!!?!!?! well fuck. if it wasn't for the SAF, you wouldn't be sleeping in your bed peacefully, if it wasn't for the SAF, you wouldn't be out clubbing and hooking up females like Mr.Slick
Comments : Not just SAF, but singapore police force and SCDF and ambulance
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i was about to scroll through the previous posts to read them to edit my post. too bad you're faster. so no editing done.
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Little boy Kindaichi pls listen to this NSboy with 6 month of service left....
Upon the first day of enlistment. Juz tell the officer, specialist or warrant...that NS sucks big time & see what they would do to you.
I can tell u that in the 1990's there is a case where got one Encik lock up the Chao recruit in the pitch dark container chamber for 3 days for opposing against NS.
The recruit cried soppishly until he call out for his mummy & daddy.....by the third day he threatened to bang his head against the wall as an act of suicide. Then the Encik let him out & then charge him for suicidal act. Thus the NSboy developed mental distress that distroyed his well being with continuous offences he made.
Fortunately the NSboy ORDed 6 years later mind u....this is as good as sign on as regular.
NOW u should be considered yourself darn lucky that all the guai lan encik is out of service & are all trained in counselling. Now all NSF wif attitude problems has to go through continous counselling b4 their officer can pose the tio chargestatus on them if matters turn for the worse.
Maybe u should consider NS as your 2nd shelter above you instead of the torture camp mentality which you have.
Put yourself in that NSboy who serve 6 years & your 99% guaranteed that your balls will fly to no where.
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Originally posted by larrenV2.003:
I rather be mr.kindaichi the detective and posted to japan..for SAF duties
Little boy Kindaichi pls listen to this NSboy with 6 month of service left....
Upon the first day of enlistment. Juz tell the officer, specialist or warrant...that NS sucks big time & see what they would do to you.
I can tell u that in the 1990's there is a case where got one Encik lock up the Chao recruit in the pitch dark container chamber for 3 days for opposing against NS.
The recruit cried soppishly until he call out for his mummy & daddy.....by the third day he threatened to bang his head against the wall as an act of suicide. Then the Encik let him out & then charge him for suicidal act. Thus the NSboy developed mental distress that distroyed his well being with continuous offences he made.
Fortunately the NSboy ORDed [b]6 years later mind u....this is as good as sign on as regular.
NOW u should be considered yourself darn lucky that all the guai lan encik is out of service & are all trained in counselling. Now all NSF wif attitude problems has to go through continous counselling b4 their officer can pose the tio chargestatus on them if matters turn for the worse.
Maybe u should consider NS as your 2nd shelter above you instead of the torture camp mentality which you have.
Put yourself in that NSboy who serve 6 years & your 99% guaranteed that your balls will fly to no where. [/b]
can sian japanese charbor..
wahahahahhahahahaaaaaaaawahhahwhahah
officer say what, just obey lor..
If got chance, don't reincarnate as a singapore guy..
go reincarnate as a japanese guy like takashi sorimachi.
Free jap chiobu somemore
Here's a tip from SBSK
1. Go buy toto and win $10 million and fly to japan =D
2. Declare that your chinese-american and fly to USA
3. Go malaysia ,and be a citizen there whahwhahwhhhhwhahahah
4. Go over-seas studies and dont' come back(we don't need humji kias)
5. Go to a political party..and outsource our defense to China
and be a vassal state of China , and "por lampa" and ask them to defend
us (as if they will)
To all pple reading my above 5 points(all talking cock), reading his ANTI ns posts really lower morale in SAF forums leh..
I rather we have more warriors rather then pple who is humji..
Should sack them outta NS, having them do NS only make morale lower.. -
Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:
Juz to let ya know that the word "SACK" for NSFs is not in the SAF dictionary.
I rather be mr.kindaichi the detective and posted to japan..for SAF duties
can sian japanese charbor..
wahahahahhahahahaaaaaaaawahhahwhahah
officer say what, just obey lor..
If got chance, don't reincarnate as a singapore guy..
go reincarnate as a japanese guy like takashi sorimachi.
Free jap chiobu somemore
[b]Here's a tip from SBSK
1. Go buy toto and win $10 million and fly to japan =D
2. Declare that your chinese-american and fly to USA
3. Go malaysia ,and be a citizen there whahwhahwhhhhwhahahah
4. Go over-seas studies and dont' come back(we don't need humji kias)
5. Go to a political party..and outsource our defense to China
and be a vassal state of China , and "por lampa" and ask them to defend
us (as if they will)
To all pple reading my above 5 points(all talking cock), reading his ANTI ns posts really lower morale in SAF forums leh..
I rather we have more warriors rather then pple who is humji..
Should sack them outta NS, having them do NS only make morale lower..
[/b]
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EXILE them lor, or "Qiang bi" the old communist way.. =DOriginally posted by larrenV2.003:Juz to let ya know that the word "SACK" for NSFs is not in the SAF dictionary. -
Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:
You are such a genius.. you knew all my thinking...
I rather be mr.kindaichi the detective and posted to japan..for SAF duties
can sian japanese charbor..
wahahahahhahahahaaaaaaaawahhahwhahah
officer say what, just obey lor..
If got chance, don't reincarnate as a singapore guy..
go reincarnate as a japanese guy like takashi sorimachi.
Free jap chiobu somemore
[b]Here's a tip from SBSK
1. Go buy toto and win $10 million and fly to japan =D
2. Declare that your chinese-american and fly to USA
3. Go malaysia ,and be a citizen there whahwhahwhhhhwhahahah
4. Go over-seas studies and dont' come back(we don't need humji kias)
5. Go to a political party..and outsource our defense to China
and be a vassal state of China , and "por lampa" and ask them to defend
us (as if they will)
To all pple reading my above 5 points(all talking cock), reading his ANTI ns posts really lower morale in SAF forums leh..
I rather we have more warriors rather then pple who is humji..
Should sack them outta NS, having them do NS only make morale lower..
[/b]
I am really intending to go overseas to study and never come back. NEVER EVER. This is how I hate NS and SINGAPORE. I am even willingly to forgo the university education here and work a couple of years to earn the money for me to go overseas and study...
And I really wish to be sacked from army. I pray to whatever god that is out there for the army to sack me. PLEASE.. I BEGGED TO BE SACKED.. SACK ME.. SACK ME... SACK ME!!!!! I lower the morale of the morale of everyone in camp by complaining and asking my men to slack with me...
I also prayed to whatever gods out there for me to win a million dollars so that I can migrate easily. I also want to xian japanese gal.. what the heck.. I am even learning Japanese for them....
Point 2 and 3 and total crap because I not citizens in those countries even though I wish I had...
anyway, Mr Patrotic... aka Mr kaopeikaobu.. Thanks for being so understanding.. I love you...