Best wishes for 10 NS man injured in 5 tonner accident
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SINGAPORE : Ten soldiers were injured in a training accident on Pulau Telong on Wednesday morning when the five-tonne truck they were in landed on its side.
Two soldiers, a National Serviceman and a regular, were evacuated by helicopter to Singapore General Hospital with fractures and facial injuries.
The other eight, who suffered minor abrasions, were given outpatient treatment on the island.
It is believed the truck hit a tree as it was transporting stores.
The two soldiers arrived at SGH at about 8.40 am, just over an hour after the accident occurred on Pulau Tekong at 7.20 am.
One of them, Goh Ling Pin, was transferred to intensive care in the Neuroscience Unit.
The other soldier, Huang Zong Wei, was in a High Dependency Unit.
Channel NewsAsia understands he suffered from injuries to his face and hands, with stitches to his lips; his neck is in a brace.
Concerned family members gathered at the Singapore General Hospital after hearing about the accident.
Parents of 20-year-old Huang say he is the youngest of three children and has been in the army for over a year.
They say he was attached to Lim Chu Kang Camp but had gone to Pulau Tekong for some training.
Mindef says both the men are in a stable condition, and it is conducting an investigation into the incident. - CNA
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Good luck and Rest Well !
Should have been more careful lar!
With Love ,
SBSK -
they felt off tonner ah?
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Get Volvo/Saab to build our 5 tonner next time lar..Originally posted by BrUtUs:they felt off tonner ah?
kao...ST engineering trucks not safe!
no 5-star safety record
1 Accident after another...haiz..
When will it be the end?
Huang Zong Wei is ok bah...only some minor injuries..
Look like the one on intensive care.....feel sorry for him...
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The 5-T is from MAN la. Not from ST -.-'
And they si bey suay sia... haiz. Wish them all the best. -
err, if its the new 5 tonner, its MAN, not ST, altho ST have last says over some parts design.Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:Get Volvo/Saab to build our 5 tonner next time lar..
kao...ST engineering trucks not safe!
no 5-star safety record
1 Accident after another...haiz..
When will it be the end?
Huang Zong Wei is ok bah...only some minor injuries..
Look like the one on intensive care.....feel sorry for him...
Btw, BOI results not out, how u noe its ST faults?
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what is the truck made of??
should have made over-head shield..
#!@$!@$!@
a more complex structure...
coz what i think is the truck fell..and the recruits landed on their heads..
THINK saf should not report all the injuries and death..
why? we will be another laughing stock...COURAGEOUS just closed..
the 04' F-16 Crash in USA still fresh
Another LST also got hit last month..minor damage..
and the commando stuff haven't solved..
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/army/gsi/ -
What sorta 'over head shield' u tokking about? If I am not wrong, suppose to have seat belts as well. But then nobody will care to use them, so prolly BOI gotta blame vehcom.Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:what is the truck made of??
should have made over-head shield..
#!@$!@$!@
a more complex structure...
coz what i think is the truck fell..and the recruits landed on their heads..
THINK saf should not report all the injuries and death..
why? we will be another laughing stock...COURAGEOUS just closed..
the 04' F-16 Crash in USA still fresh
Another LST also got hit last month..minor damage..
and the commando stuff haven't solved..
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/army/gsi/
Tonners are by right soft skin vehicles, what kinda complex structure u thinking of? -
bullet proof steel shell on the outside, kevlar on the top..Originally posted by laurence82:What sorta 'over head shield' u tokking about? If I am not wrong, suppose to have seat belts as well. But then nobody will care to use them, so prolly BOI gotta blame vehcom.
Tonners are by right soft skin vehicles, what kinda complex structure u thinking of?
able to shield from light arms fire..
complex honey comb structure , with reinforced bars..
regarding volvo , if their car EVER suay suay over turns..
the occupant has a lesser chance of being injured..
A Volvo costs less then $100,000 USD..just borrow some of the designs
and put it into our truck ? =X
i sat in a 5 tonner before...even though im NCC kia,
i helped to transport the M-16 rifles around..
I think they should make it compulsory for pple inside to wear helmuts ,
and armor vests? lol..
The Reason why a tank has a lesser chance of falling is because it has a low center of gravity...
The truck is pretty tall , and a high center of gravity so thats why it happens.. -
its just suay.
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Are you going to pay me a million bucks if I manage to flip a Volvo? Look, things happen, especially off-road. WRC cars have rollcages all around the driver, still there are cases when drivers get killed when their cars flip.
Its just a motoring accident, no matter how unfortunate it might be. We can debate about the well-being of the 13 soldiers later, but get this fact straight. -
so how to prevent it from happening in the future?Originally posted by EXCO:Are you going to pay me a million bucks if I manage to flip a Volvo? Look, things happen, especially off-road. WRC cars have rollcages all around the driver, still there are cases when drivers get killed when their cars flip.
Its just a motoring accident, no matter how unfortunate it might be. We can debate about the well-being of the 13 soldiers later, but get this fact straight.
build roads in tekong? -
I wonder how the driver could gabra enough to flip a freaking 5-tonner.
GP car, Land Rover - I can believe; ditto Unimog & even 3-tonner. But 5-tonner, boy, that's as rare as a M113.
Must be a steep hill or something. -
Accidents happen lah, you can go all out to deter one from happening. But if sh|t happens, it just happens.
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If the driver is found guilty of negeliance, haha......... good luck to him
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Like Dude, it hit a tree. Its got nothing to do with the vehicle per se. Why do we need to re-engineer the tonner than?
It is believed the truck hit a tree as it was transporting stores. -
Very curious, though - how come hit tree? I thought Tekong is all paved roads nowadays. Was the vehicle commander at fault too?
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paved on the main road.Originally posted by Moxie:Very curious, though - how come hit tree? I thought Tekong is all paved roads nowadays. Was the vehicle commander at fault too?
maybe its a jungle exercise, so the tonner has to go in. -
SBSK, don't be cock lah. If and when you sit in a 5-tonner and you will know that all you have suggested are most likely NOT feasible. Reinforced headsheidls?!?!?! you know how high and big the tonner is or not? put in head shield then no space to put stores or carry personnel then buy 5-tonner for F***? i cannot even begin to comprehend or fanthom the idea of a headsheild....*shakes head* If you said something smarter like improve the electonic traction controls or suspension then perhaps. But this incident may be due to human error, so the problem here is due to training (or lack of). Not everything is about the tools boy.
There used to be a high incidence of LSVs rolling over when we first bought them from Aust. It was found that this was due to lack or and improper training, as such, this was improved. Anyone who has seen those 2 modified LSVs in Dieppe should know what i'm talking about, simple and pretty damn impressive.
On a seperate issue, did anyone hear abt the 3-tonner who rammed into old PLC gates back in '01? Langa the pillar until the half pillar gone and bricks all over the floor!! dunno what happened to the driver, but i would imagine he was shitting bricks himself! -
I've gone to Khatib Camp a lot since '85 - but not for RT! - & its front gate was notorious for accidents. SAF vehicles, in particular, always seemed to langgar something when turning in from Sembawang Road (Yishun-heading side). So-much so that the camp authorities authorized elaborate directional instructions for individual or convoy drivers around that vicinity.
Hope the Tekong boys are alright. The papers reported some fractures & facial injuries, & they were supposedly "transporting stores". Wouldn't have liked a heavy ammo box (or whatever) crashing into me ;-( -
5-tonners do flip if the ground incline is quite steep and the vehicle is speeding due to downhill movement.I sat in a LR in Tekong, it almost flipped near the reclaimed land area.My BMT coy rover once hit a tree, the OOC personnel behind hit his ribs against the power socket module in the centre of the interior and one of my PS injured his chin.The driver was shaking and he ws so lost, garbled his story to the extent that apparently the PS fell out of the window and the OOC guy fell outta the back.Boy, he was a nervous wreck.And the CSM too, for he just changed the tires yesterday.Originally posted by gonegoose:SBSK, don't be cock lah. If and when you sit in a 5-tonner and you will know that all you have suggested are most likely NOT feasible. Reinforced headsheidls?!?!?! you know how high and big the tonner is or not? put in head shield then no space to put stores or carry personnel then buy 5-tonner for F***? i cannot even begin to comprehend or fanthom the idea of a headsheild....*shakes head* If you said something smarter like improve the electonic traction controls or suspension then perhaps. But this incident may be due to human error, so the problem here is due to training (or lack of). Not everything is about the tools boy.
There used to be a high incidence of LSVs rolling over when we first bought them from Aust. It was found that this was due to lack or and improper training, as such, this was improved. Anyone who has seen those 2 modified LSVs in Dieppe should know what i'm talking about, simple and pretty damn impressive.
On a seperate issue, did anyone hear abt the 3-tonner who rammed into old PLC gates back in '01? Langa the pillar until the half pillar gone and bricks all over the floor!! dunno what happened to the driver, but i would imagine he was shitting bricks himself! -
So basically the 5-tonner is a TALL vehicle..
any new technologies to make the vehicle more safe to drive??
Can Bionix flip on it's side as well? I don't think so right -
i heard from my friend in tekong that the driver is speeding and that the v com is a CPT! the v com definately is to be blamed too. cos he's the one who must assume total safety.Originally posted by Moxie:Very curious, though - how come hit tree? I thought Tekong is all paved roads nowadays. Was the vehicle commander at fault too? -
No, BX don't flip onto its side only, it even flips all the way upside down, it sinks in water too.Originally posted by SibeiSuayKia:So basically the 5-tonner is a TALL vehicle..
any new technologies to make the vehicle more safe to drive??
Can Bionix flip on it's side as well? I don't think so right
Of course the 5 ton is high lah, just look at the suspension, it has to go off road mah. What other new techologies you want? Active-yaw control? Limited slip differentials? -
You think a 5-tonner must pass the moose test and if failed, be given ESP like the MB A-Class?Dream on.It is a military vehicle.And it's designed for utilitarian purposes.We need safer drivers and alert veh comds, that's all.
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A CPT as a V-com is NOT TRUE. I read the incident report for this incident. It's a tonner from one of the SAR that starts with 4 (haha, its 4X SAR)Originally posted by Gordonator:i heard from my friend in tekong that the driver is speeding and that the v com is a CPT! the v com definately is to be blamed too. cos he's the one who must assume total safety.
anyway, till investigations are completed, i guess we should not comment further. But the incident happened around Permatang.
but i was really impressed by the sound system in Pulau Tekong's IMT.... i did not know there was an heli-evac until i heard it from news later on. I was surprised to find out the incident happened in Pulau Tekong, I was in IMT then and totally heard nothing.
The recruits who reported sick told me that the heli-evac was damn swift... the heli landed not longer than 45 secs.