SISPEC FAQ
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if you are to become a specialist you will be posted to BSLC (SISPEC). if you are to be a man, you will go straight to the unit.Originally posted by StRiKeMaN:Hi, i'm enlistin in next 2 yrs time.(Maybe).
Abt SISPEC thingy, is it dat after 3 mnths BMT, den they posted to BSLC all dese? i thought like they posted us straight to infantrys/guards.
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as a trainee, or course must stay in lah.Originally posted by plenoptic:Do all these camps have in-camp bunks? Do they have to stay overnight?
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After being a trainee leh?Originally posted by Gordonator:as a trainee, or course must stay in lah. -
Is SOC a must for BSLC? What if i fail my SOC?
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think too much liao u....Originally posted by plenoptic:Is SOC a must for BSLC? What if i fail my SOC?
can means can...cannot means cannot -
yes its a must. u can almost say soc is a must for your entire ns stint. they are going to train you and train you hard so you will pass.Originally posted by plenoptic:Is SOC a must for BSLC? What if i fail my SOC? -
hard to say. depends on where u get posted to actually. if u get posted to those HQs as admin spec then it's 8 to 5 with occasional stay in depending on the need. as a instructors, think must stay in with your men.Originally posted by plenoptic:After being a trainee leh? -
Hehe, if you are posted to a logistics unit as an Ops Spec, life will be much better.Mostly 8-5, except for mob manning and exercise period.
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if u combat side u probably posted to combat unit. then for 2years u work with the same bunch of people. you will have a pc. you will have men to train and take care of lor.. basically combat unit is also stay in your camp everyday.Originally posted by plenoptic:After being a trainee leh? -
I also dunno which batch I belong to. Was at Pasir Laba SISPEC Alpha company in 1994 Sept after my AI trade course. All my trainers are Infantry/Guards WOs with damm lot of kuki-kuki (badges).
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from 8th BSLC (Alpha) and 8th ASLC (Golf).
SISPEC was still in PLC then. Now they want to shift back. What can I say...
Btw, can you imagine the life of an NSF who went to tekong for his BMT. Carried on to BSLC. Then ASLC. Finally posted to BMT/SISPEC as an instructor?
I mean, his entire 2 and a half years (now only 2 years right?) spent in Tekong? Must be bloody sian. -
Indeed.I had a friend from my Obese BMT batch who thought going to OCS meant he was free from the clutches of that island..little did he know he was going back, and to lead obese recruits too.Talk about serendipity.Originally posted by sarius:from 8th BSLC (Alpha) and 8th ASLC (Golf).
SISPEC was still in PLC then. Now they want to shift back. What can I say...
Btw, can you imagine the life of an NSF who went to tekong for his BMT. Carried on to BSLC. Then ASLC. Finally posted to BMT/SISPEC as an instructor?
I mean, his entire 2 and a half years (now only 2 years right?) spent in Tekong? Must be bloody sian.
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that's exactly what happened to my friend, BMTCOriginally posted by sarius:Btw, can you imagine the life of an NSF who went to tekong for his BMT. Carried on to BSLC. Then ASLC. Finally posted to BMT/SISPEC as an instructor?
I mean, his entire 2 and a half years (now only 2 years right?) spent in Tekong? Must be bloody sian.
BSLC ASLC posted to SISPEC HQ.
at least been an instrustor there is not as bad as one can stay in. but imagine my friend who is a admin spec at SISPEC HQ. which means he gets to book out everyday (or almost everyday i'm not sure). somemore he live in the west. can u imagine the hours of travelling time he spent getting to tekong? -
Hey, i heard that for officers, u'll have reservist till 55 n ur reservist period is random..
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take the 1st train every morning and hopefully u wont miss the feeder bus at pasir ris terminal and tat ferry. he will be able to reach sispec before 8am.Originally posted by Gordonator:that's exactly what happened to my friend, BMTC BSLC ASLC posted to SISPEC HQ.
at least been an instrustor there is not as bad as one can stay in. but imagine my friend who is a admin spec at SISPEC HQ. which means he gets to book out everyday (or almost everyday i'm not sure). somemore he live in the west. can u imagine the hours of travelling time he spent getting to tekong?
and when knock off, dont miss the 5:30pm bus/5-tone to TFT den take the ferry to SFT and take the feeder bus to pasir ris. he should be able to reach home ard 7:30pm.
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Maybe me and my friends are exceptions. However i'm sure that there are more to come.Originally posted by Gordonator:the truth is, malay specialist don't have chance to go to support formation like engineers, signal and artillery and combat formation like armour unlike their chinese, indian BSLC mates.
that's why there's isn't any malay specialists in engineers and armour. most likely they'll be posted to infantry/guards/BMTC.
I'm proud to have served in 20SA 10th Mono with 2 other malay arty specs. In 23SA 10th Mono, i knew of another malay arty spec. Currently i know that there is at least 1 malay arty spec serving 20SA 11th mono.
All of us went to School of Arty after BSLC, then we got posted to our respective units -
if i want to sign on as naval officer...do i still go thru BSLC?
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officers go through OCS.Originally posted by jonalim:if i want to sign on as naval officer...do i still go thru BSLC? -
and if i dun get into OCS? me dream is over eh?Originally posted by Gordonator:officers go through OCS. -
The SISPEC 22 km Milestone Run
8/8/2005
Chief of Army (COA), MG Desmond Kuek visited the School of Infantry Specialists (SISPEC) on 19 July to join the trainees for a 22-kilometre run. The run was more than just a normal run to keep fit it carried extra significance as the trainees' Advanced Section Leader Course graduation run.
The 22-km run takes the trainees around the island of Pulau Tekong and past landmarks and places that they would be familiar with from their Basic Military Training (BMT) and SISPEC experiences. The trainees thus get to relive the journey they have taken so far in the Army.
Past the halfway mark, the trainees are reminded that it is a mind game they have to overcome. Nearing the end of the run, the trainees will their bodies on through a gruelling uphill run before they finally reach the finish line at SISPEC. Commanding Officer of SISPEC, LTC Ng Heng Chew said, Through the run, we want to send a message to the trainees: that the mind is very powerful. After the run, they come out with a tremendous sense of achievement.
CPL Alan Phua said, As I ran, it was a time to recap all I did in BMT, and a time to understand how much I've grown. CPL Calvin Ng also noted, The run has taught us how to lead our men and how to mentally and physically prepare them. Hopefully they can also look up to us and say, if our instructor can do it, we can do it as well!
At the end of the run, COA congratulated the sergeants-to-be on finishing the run. He said, Soon you will be in charge of other soldiers their welfare, their lives. This run is something that you can remember and take out of Pulau Tekong, which can define your experience in SISPEC. -
Originally posted by Gordonator:
*bah* CPL Alan Phua and Alvin Ng obviously have not been for AHM before.
[b]The SISPEC 22 km Milestone Run
8/8/2005
Chief of Army (COA), MG Desmond Kuek visited the School of Infantry Specialists (SISPEC) on 19 July to join the trainees for a 22-kilometre run. The run was more than just a normal run to keep fit it carried extra significance as the trainees' Advanced Section Leader Course graduation run.
The 22-km run takes the trainees around the island of Pulau Tekong and past landmarks and places that they would be familiar with from their Basic Military Training (BMT) and SISPEC experiences. The trainees thus get to relive the journey they have taken so far in the Army.
Past the halfway mark, the trainees are reminded that it is a mind game they have to overcome. Nearing the end of the run, the trainees will their bodies on through a gruelling uphill run before they finally reach the finish line at SISPEC. Commanding Officer of SISPEC, LTC Ng Heng Chew said, Through the run, we want to send a message to the trainees: that the mind is very powerful. After the run, they come out with a tremendous sense of achievement.
CPL Alan Phua said, As I ran, it was a time to recap all I did in BMT, and a time to understand how much I've grown. CPL Calvin Ng also noted, The run has taught us how to lead our men and how to mentally and physically prepare them. Hopefully they can also look up to us and say, if our instructor can do it, we can do it as well!
At the end of the run, COA congratulated the sergeants-to-be on finishing the run. He said, Soon you will be in charge of other soldiers their welfare, their lives. This run is something that you can remember and take out of Pulau Tekong, which can define your experience in SISPEC.
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'The run has taught us how to lead our men...etc etc...'
Lip Service. Probably about the most useful thing to take out of SISPEC.
Not to diss SISPEC; I learnt quite a bit of things, toyed with more and enjoyed most of it. But it's the damn silly things and 'significant' nonsense that I think is an awful waste of time.
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actually the things most reporter wrote in the ariticle may not be excatly what the interviewee said. sometimes what they said is made out by the reporter.
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Am I expected to bring the white waterbottle and sling bag when I first report to SISPEC?
Also, how long, if any, is the blocked leave after BSLC while waiting for ASLC/OCS/other units.
I really do wish to crossover to OCS from SISPEC, and will bloody work hard for it. I signed a tech spec E contract only to find out that the contract didn't go through on posting day when I saw SISPEC as my reporting camp. SAF loves to spring surprises like this. -
to be honest. I think an ADF private knows more and can lead better than a SISPEC 3SG.
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This i disagree. Not every ADF men is that bright. Not every SISPEC trained Sect comd is a capable leader either.
This is where our system has failed. Failure to recognise men with leadership potential and equipping them to lead. Failure to recognise men who CAN'T lead and sending them to Sispec and God help us, OCS.