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Originally posted by wuming78 on 05 May 2004 @ 0912HRS
Intelligence Officer(IO) Scheme
About the Scheme
Officially inaugurated on 5th April 2001, the scheme aims to develop a group of professional IOs to meet today's highly dynamic and sophisticated intelligence environment.
The scheme offers a challenging and rewarding military career in the SAF Intelligence. It will appeal to you if you have a keen interest in current affairs, geopolitical development and if you are technically inclined. The scheme provides job rotation in the functional areas of Analysis, Collection, Operations, Planning, Research, Technical and Human Resource Management.
There will be a recruitment interview conducted to select applicants with the following attributes: Inquisitive and Analytical Creative Ambiguity Tolerant Decisive Self-Motivated Good Communication skills
As the scheme is meant for Officers only, you will first have to qualify for OCS on your own merit and be subsequently commissioned as an Officer.
Route of Advancement
The Route of Advancement (ROA) of an IO is the rate at which he ascends the ranks and takes up appointments of increasing importance and greater responsibility.
IOs can expect a full military career within the SAF Intelligence in which Officers progress to senior positions within the Intelligence Units and Departments on the basis of performance and potential.
Enlistment
Training Roadmap
The Intelligence Officers' Scheme provides comprehensive training to ensure that all IOs are properly trained and developed. The training encompasses general development and specialised intelligence courses to equip IOs with the knowledge to progressively take on greater responsibilities
and challenges.
The training offers courses up to the level of the SAF Command and Staff Course. Those with academic pre-requisites will also be given the opportunities to pursue undergraduate and postgraduate studies.
Starting Gross Salary
The salaries shown below are not inclusive of year-end, performance-based bonuses, or Market Adjusted Allowances (MAA). Diploma Holders are eligible for MAA of $200 per month as a Cadet, and $110 per month as 2nd Lt for a maximum of 12 months. Also, they do not include SAVER contributions.
'A' Level/Diploma
Rank Starting Gross Salary
Officer Cadet Trainee $1, 866 - $2, 354
2nd Lieutenant $1, 941 - $2, 517
Lieutenant $2, 050 - $3, 834
Captain $3, 767 - $5, 924
Major $5, 154 - $8, 408
Lieutenant-Colonel $7, 396 - $10, 005
Graduate
Rank Starting Gross Salary
Officer Cadet Trainee $2, 097 - $2, 904
2nd Lieutenant N/A
Lieutenant $2, 454 - $3, 554
Captain $2, 643 - $5, 924
Major $5, 276 - $8, 632
Lieutenant-Colonel $7, 396 - $10, 005
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Originally posted by wuming78 on 05 May 2004 @ 0913HRS
The Intelligence Corps
The Intelligence Corps is a vital element within the SAF, entrusted with the responsibility of collecting and analysing real time information and helps in the sacred task of preserving the security of Singapore.
Our Motto: Dominant and Indomitable
We are dominant in the battlefield through our harnessing of people and technology to ensure that we are aware and ahead at every turn and in any situation. We are indomitable in the quest for greater knowledge and in our unyielding spirit to face all challenges with courage and determination.
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Originally posted by wuming78 on 05 May 2004 @ 0915HRS
How is the IO vocation managed?
The IO vocation comes directly under the privy of the Joint Intelligence Directorate (JID). As such, the career of all IOs will be manged directly by JID and Joint Manpower Personnel Department (JMPD).
What kind of career can I expect as an IO?
The IO scheme offers a challenging and rewarding military career in SAF Intelligence at the highest level. You will be trained and systematically groomed along a specialised route of advancement in the field of intelligence. At the heart of this route of advancement is a conviction to develop each IO to his/her fullest career potential.
What is the rate of promotion?
Promotion is based on performance and potential. The better you perform and the higher your potential, the faster you move up the ranks.
Are the IO salary, welfare benefits and performance bonus different from other vocations?
No. The IO vocation enjoys the same salary (see Salary Scale), welfare benefits (see Welfare and Benefits) and rate of promotion (see Career Advancement) as other combat vocations in the SAF.
What if I am intending to further my studies?
We encourage our Officers to complete their higher education as soon as possible. Officers who have secured scholarships such as LSA will be allowed to defer from service to further their studies upon commissioning or when the course's semester begins whichever is earlier.
Am I constrained to any particular courses when I attend higher studies?
No. Applicants are welcomed to pursue all disciplines approved by the SAF. But here in the Intelligence Corps, applicants are also advised to take up job relevant courses.
Do I have to work for the SAF during my vacations while I am studying?
Yes. Depending on the need for manpower, arrangements will be made for you to be attached within the SAF while you are on studies vacation. This is to keep you updated with the latest developments in the SAF. You will be paid while on studies vacation.
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Originally posted by wuming78 on 06052004 @ 0927HRS
there is no special tri-svc term, or in fact, OCC for IOs, since IO is a tri-svc vocation - meaning officers from any background and svc can go into it.Originally posted by danielle0309:Have acouple of qns re IOs. regulars offrs are constantly rotated betw staff and field work, intel is largely a staff dept isit? then how is the rotation done? Also, how is the tri-svr term like for intel offrs?
Anyone noes wat is the selection criteria for IOs?
Thanks
intel work involves more than staff work - e.g. s2 branch's work involves intel, and tt involves the scouts; BRCs too. so i guess wat it means is tt for IOs their rotation is such tt all their work - staff, instructional, or command, will be with units and positions related to intel work.
hope this helps. anyway its jus wat i infer.
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Originally posted by WOCC on 01032004 @ 0852HRS
For Female intersted in signing on
dear gals,
ever thought of signing on? ok see what it entails.....
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minimum academic requirements are Diploma or A levels. a pretty basic pass would get u an interview and if ur a level grades are really good, u can consider the SMS (W) scholarships, ATA (O/L), LSA awards. but if u are not aiming for the above then its pretty much alright.
health requirement. its Pes A or B. for air force vocation ur eyesight must not be more then i think 500 degrees. navy and army no such requirement.
Vocation available. air force - (Air defence artillery or Weapon system officer). navy (naval offr u choose ur specialisation later). army (everything except commandos, there is even a guards female offr).
Training there are 2 intakes a year jan and july BMT intake. training for BMT will take place in SAFTI MI at sierra wing instead of tekong. the BMT lasts for 10 weeks. u will have the same cirriculum as the guys. however it will be an all gal platoon that u will be in. fitness will be build up gradually similar to the guys fitness programme. IPPT stds are different much like the guy and girl NAFA test std difference. SOC will be conducted in clean fatigue and there will be some station u can skip. u need to pass IPPT to pass out from BMT. after that u go on to Tri service term (4weeks) this time the platoon will have some guys. u pretty much do the same thing as the guys (refer to OCS FAQ for more info). after tri service term, the gals will be split up into air force navy or army (of which u already know which service to enter) and then proceeding on to Service term 1, service term 2 and professional term. Navy and airforce cadets will be subject to different length of terms. (refer to OCS FAQ).
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Its not for the faint hearted. but we dont expect superwoman type either. it is a varied and interesting career and if u are up for the challenge u will love it. u either love it or hate it. u have a choice in coming to join the SAF. think before u commit. cos u are not going to get away with kenging or that sort of rubbish as u have volunteered to join. u are expected to train as hard as the guys and side by side with them. it includes field camps, route march fast march and so on. u carry the same load, u walk the same distance and do as much as the guys if not more just to keep up. there will be no such thing as ur 'aunty' visiting u to get out of exercise or field camps or marches. hygiene is something personal. u have to prepare ur so called 'extra supplies' of wet tissue and etc should ur 'aunty' choose to visit u during field camps. bear in mind that there are no facilities outfield or any special arrangements made for that time of month. instructors are impartial and will treat u as a guy. punishment includes the whole platoon and u will not be able to get away for the reason of ur being the fairer sex. the only exception is when u are medically excused. u will be under scrutiny wherever u go. in camp in ur formation in ur unit simply because u are a female. there is an expectation that u will be professional in ur job as u chose to be a soldier. -
ok tts very good info..
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Hi, may i ask for the joint saf dip scheme, does it apply to specialist only? Can i sign on as an officer in the joint saf dip? Thanks.
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no. this scheme is only open for Specialist.Originally posted by Jazzswing:Hi, may i ask for the joint saf dip scheme, does it apply to specialist only? Can i sign on as an officer in the joint saf dip? Thanks.
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So if i want to be an officer i will have to be specialist first then officer?Originally posted by Gordonator:no. this scheme is only open for Specialist. 
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U can sign on as officer directly.Originally posted by Jazzswing:So if i want to be an officer i will have to be specialist first then officer?
But if you intend to go for the joint poly bond then u have to sign on as spec. -
negative...Originally posted by deathscythe99:U can sign on as officer directly.
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why negative?Originally posted by erijazz:negative... -
Then does the IO scheme apply to poly people or must sign on after you've served NS? Thanks.
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Minimum requirement is Dip & 'A' levels for IO. But no IO for JPSDS. For IO, you have to sign after receiving diploma... probably in NS after you've been selected for OCS.Originally posted by Jazzswing:Then does the IO scheme apply to poly people or must sign on after you've served NS? Thanks. -
a question, if i finish bmt, will be posted to sispec or ocs, can i still sign on for air force?? , cosi hear wat, ur name is alreadi under army formation, very slim chance they will realase u ???
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yes.. if u intend to sign on airforce its best to indicate during bmt.Originally posted by LoBa-LoBa:a question, if i finish bmt, will be posted to sispec or ocs, can i still sign on for air force?? , cosi hear wat, ur name is alreadi under army formation, very slim chance they will realase u ??? -
You guys should read this:
http://singaporearmystories.blogspot.com/2004/12/why-do-people-take-up-saf-scholarships.html#comments
and this:
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Hi.. actually i am intending to sign on as an officer as i had obtained my degree. However, when i went to army recruitment centre, the personnel there discouraged me on signing on the uniformed services. The reasons perhaps are:Originally posted by deathscythe99:U can sign on as officer directly.
But if you intend to go for the joint poly bond then u have to sign on as spec.
1. Since i had already got a degree, i should consider signing on the non-uniformed side... but then my degree is not good enough. I only got a pass...
2. My National Service was in the Police Force. I would have to go thru everything from scratch.. including the BMT.. besides after passing out, i had to depend on my capabilty to make it to OCS.
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well. the advise was well-meant - although im not quite clear what the first one was directed at. does he/she mean to say you would have better prospects as a DXO?Originally posted by fire_ice_lord:Hi.. actually i am intending to sign on as an officer as i had obtained my degree. However, when i went to army recruitment centre, the personnel there discouraged me on signing on the uniformed services. The reasons perhaps are:
1. Since i had already got a degree, i should consider signing on the non-uniformed side... but then my degree is not good enough. I only got a pass...
2. My National Service was in the Police Force. I would have to go thru everything from scratch.. including the BMT.. besides after passing out, i had to depend on my capabilty to make it to OCS.
I would like to have some comments.. or shld i really give up on signing on the army???
bmt? i thought even if one serves his NS as an NSPI, he would go through the same army bmt first? but yes, you would have to go through ocs all over again. i did that myself at the age of 23 - bmt + ocs. how old are you now? possibly slightly older than 23. but in the end, it really is up to you - why in the first place you intend to sign on, and how much you really want to do so, and whether there are viable alternatives that you do not mind exploring. if you really think that being a soldier is the right profession for you, the bmt and ocs would not pose much of a problem - you should know what i mean. hence be clear of your motivations, your needs, and not to forget your professional career too. of course, take into account the people around you in your consideration too. -
Yes, the lady at ARC meant i shld consider DXO.. but i'm jz a Bachelor of Science pass degree majoring in applied mathematics. None suits me.Originally posted by wuming78:well. the advise was well-meant - although im not quite clear what the first one was directed at. does he/she mean to say you would have better prospects as a DXO?
bmt? i thought even if one serves his NS as an NSPI, he would go through the same army bmt first? but yes, you would have to go through ocs all over again. i did that myself at the age of 23 - bmt + ocs. how old are you now? possibly slightly older than 23. but in the end, it really is up to you - why in the first place you intend to sign on, and how much you really want to do so, and whether there are viable alternatives that you do not mind exploring. if you really think that being a soldier is the right profession for you, the bmt and ocs would not pose much of a problem - you should know what i mean. hence be clear of your motivations, your needs, and not to forget your professional career too. of course, take into account the people around you in your consideration too.
I was enlisted directly into SPF for national service, so i'm not an NSPI, only SC/Sgt when orded. Therefore, i totally haf no experience of army life at all.. only heard a lot from my peers and by reading this forum. I'll 25 in 2005 liao.. When i decided to go for my degree course at NUS, ( instead of signing on as a Sgt ) i was intending to join the police force as an senior police officer... however it seems harder to get in already. I oso applied for RSAF.. but din make it for the ADA interview. Hmmm.. as for the bmt , i do feel i may haf some problems as my fitness level is not really good. I managed a pass for my ippt only.. after few retests.. furthermore for ocs.. dunno whether can get in anot but of coz i am willing to go the miles shld i want to join the army. My gf is my main concern coz she isnt tat supportive of me choosing the army. Really making no headway since graduated in july... family members, gf n frds constantly asking whether i got a job... -
i am not sure if there are age limits for trainees at bmtc and ocs. this would be one of the first things you would like to clarify with arc before going further.Originally posted by fire_ice_lord:My gf is my main concern coz she isnt tat supportive of me choosing the army. Really making no headway since graduated in july... family members, gf n frds constantly asking whether i got a job...
of course, the most important thing for yourself, should there be no systematic constraints, is to decide if soldiering is what you really want to do, or whether you are eager to jump in cos you are "making no headway" and people around you are asking. it is certainly not a suitable short term profession, since experience in this profession does not really apply to the other careers you might wish to go into subsequently. and this is especially true since you did not have to experience the military during your ns stint. not trying to throw wet blanket, but the military is quite a unique profession - you should be able to detect the extreme feelings towards it in this forum even. if you end up not liking it when you are already in the system (and there is likely to be a minimum term of engagement), it can be rather miserable.
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is 25 signing on a little too late? im considering too..