NTI-PARIS
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james phang is not as great as many people think lah...
EGA over sell james phang like god... haha..
no wonder their agents pray him.
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Hey, what did I missed?
I notice that for my last few posts, you have countered my entries by dismissing my character, and my behaviour, instead of the points I have raised.
Posted on Page 39.
So friend, what's next? Are you going to dismiss me next by commenting that I appear to be raving?
Let me help you by citing some examples you can use:
1) You could say that you are too sleepy (wait, you already did that)
2) That I have reduced myself to emotional ramblings, and as such is impossible to answer (check.)
3) That I change my arguments too much (check)
4) That I appear to be raving mad and so you will not answer a madman.
5) You could find out who I am in the company, dig up some dirt and then voila! Expose my identity and dirty laundry online.
6) My posts are too long to read properly.
7) My posts are so sarcastic they make your eyes burn
8 ) I am too immature to argue with you, silly girl that I am.
9) I am too silly to argue with you.
10) I do not produce evidence, so therefore you shall not deign to reply.
11) I am jumping to conclusions, so you see no need to reply.
12) I'm wildly imaginative, and therefore you see no need to reply too.
13) I argue like a petulant child, so therefore you see no need to reply (again, check.)
I'm sure that you can think of more.
I look forward to seeing how you dismiss me next. By the way, it's really smart of you to use that. By attempting to bring down someone's credibility, you are able to dismiss that person's entire argument in one fell swoop. Excellent!
PS: By the way, I screenshoted this post. In case you need the evidence that I alter my contents, feel free to ask me.
And bingo, I was proven correct!Decantre is such an incessant nag, everyline would be combative and if I were to stoop to her level, quoting her everyline, this topic will reach 100 pages soon and nothing constructive will be featured about NTI anymore.
By the way, when was anything constructive featured about NTI from you? Enlighten me please, the great and mighty Eikei.NLP is just a broad term for any method that has a strong end in mind.
Really, Eikei? But I guess I must trust you, because you are the foremost expert on everything under the sun. Wikipedia, NLP Handbook, NLPU,NLP Academy were all wrong.
Your one sentence alone already showed your complete lack of understanding of what NLP is all about.
Seriously, I know you are an expert when it comes to network marketing and all that legal jargon, but don't act as if you know everything.
NLP is not a broad term. It's a specific science (some say it's pseudo-science, some say it's just an art of talking, but's it's definitely not what you say it is.)
PS: I like being a nag. I like posting long posts. So? Get over it, man. It's getting old.
If you want to continue attacking my ways instead of answering very valid questions, let's boogie.
You see, people expect me to duck from questions, to do stupid stuff in this forum. (in fact, if I do so, it actually strengthen your anti-NTI stand, that we are idiots and whatever.)
You, on the other hand, people expect you to be the expert. People listen to your words. It makes you look foolish if you are the one who dodge questions left, right, and center. And do you realise that you already sound damn stupid to a lot of people now?
Of course it seems not the case because this thread is chock-full of NTI condemners and they would side with you. But guess what? There's a world of people outside who are reading this thread. And you sound like you are running away from the question. -
one thesis of personal attacks?
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I really have to agree that your long thesis is a complete and through personal attack on me which I will not respond here as it is against the spirit of this thread. Have you been asked to come here by your company to clear the thread and make the recent Faux Pas by your fellow NTI people disappear into the depths of the topic?
I shall give you a Honorary Title: NTI Page Clearer.
Everytime you come in, you will post long and tedious entries that do not do anything constructive and you always come in when one of your silly NTI agents get exposed on the forums. This allows people to forget what they have just done and be facinated with your vagrant foolishness. We were just exposing Yadoking as a failed attempt to pretent to be Anti-NTI and also have concluded our discussion about why the 22nd floor has disappeared when you come in. Also, all the NTI and EGA threads are terribly hot now so perhaps you would like to clear the pages there too.
If you said that I have not made any constructive arguments about NTI, I suggest you read the whole topic again. Anyway I have anonymous people and others who email me or PM me for information regarding NTI and alot of others who have told me how my posts have helped them understand the company more. I'm very glad everytime someone reads what I write, they walk away enriched and their money protected with their sound knowledge. -
Latest News! :
Eikei Is From Amway!
That Explains Why He Condamns Other Companies!
Despicable!
P.S : Eikei Please Brush My Post Away Like How You Can Brush/Sidestep Questions, Laurence82 Should Be His Upline Buts Its Not Confirmed Yet
Predicted Replies from Eikei:
- Loser, Yawn..
-I'll Sue You
Another One Exposed!
Don't Cover or Run Like Yado Who Don't Dare Post Anymore *smiles* -
OMG! I am going to call the reporter who wrote about NTI to write about EiKei too.. OMG!...Originally posted by Exposed!:Latest News! :
Eikei Is From Amway!
That Explains Why He Condamns Other Companies!
Despicable!
P.S : Eikei Please Brush My Post Away Like How You Can Brush/Sidestep Questions, Laurence82 Should Be His Upline Buts Its Not Confirmed Yet
Predicted Replies from Eikei:
- Loser, Yawn..
-I'll Sue You
Another One Exposed!
Don't Cover or Run Like Yado Who Don't Dare Post Anymore *smiles* -
spamming has been reported to mod
hurhur -
Hahaha this is very amusing indeed. NTI has to stoop so low just to reclaim a reputation they never had.
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Again, cease and desist
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wah lao.. you all still bother to go found out who is who from what company ah? why do you bother so much about nti or other company too? why not just let the do their stuff? if it is really bad, people will jugde by their own understanding of the company. it doesn't really help to write all this in the forum. you thought the people that go down is bilnd de meh? just let the police or the goverment to deal with it.. complaining doesn't help
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Originally posted by mlm idoit:
Yes idiot, you are perhaps right.
wah lao.. you all still bother to go found out (1)who is who from what company ah? why do you bother so much about nti or other company too? (2)why not just let the do their stuff? if it is really bad, (3)people will jugde by their own understanding of the company. (4)it doesn't really help to write all this in the forum. you thought the people that go down is bilnd de meh? (5)just let the police or the goverment to deal with it.. complaining doesn't help
However I would like to empahsize on a few points
1. We need to indentify who is who first. Where is this person standing affects his post's credibility a lot. For example, I joined NTI before I know how they function and therefore I can condemn. You didn't join and you condemn, it just doesn't seemed quite right as you are ignorant about it.
Furthermore, you are an agent you will definately defend against it even you know we are right. In contrast, if someone who is really not an NTI agent defend for NTI, it makes a different.
2. I know jp is trying hard to create some coy and make a living from it. You, me, everyone needs a living. Just that his way are simply too perfidious.
3. Please classified your "people" down here. It is either non-gullible, wise, smart, matured, experienced or far sighted people can distinguish the true sight of this coy.
NTI like to target young adult and blind/brainwash them using their dreams and future. They need people like us to admonish them.
Note: if all of us has a good judgement, we won't be chatting here. No one is perfect.
4. This is a Singapore popular forum, we can arouse the mass about our view. Many delegator and/or authority are seeing this forum too. Something which is execrate by so many people definately is very wrong.
One of the reason CAD checks on NTI might be due to the forum too. Don't look down its potential.
5. They will deal with it, but not now. Right now, we can help out a little by providing facts. At the same time, let people see the coin in 2 sides.
Lastly, we aren't complaining
Cheers dude!
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I'm 'preventing'..... -
juz a little note:
i always feel that we should educate people about this thing, that is mlm. on matter you are from which mlm company, one should know at least something about it. Esp nti paris, where they have a rather"unique" way of mlm-ing...yupx.... -
lolx, i rmb last time when i was asked (or rather, "brainwashed" to join) one of the stuff they talk abt is also education....they say like what u can improve ur interpersonal skills and presentation skills...lolx....Originally posted by Eikei:Thats why I say that those people who join NTI for "education" are indeed very silly. First, pay a huge sum of money then pay like a few hundred dollars each time the company forces you to attend a seminar. Its like paying to be somebody's salesman hahaha I think work for charity is even better, at least you don't pay to work, you do something meaningful and some charities even give you lunch/dinner vouchers. -
Yeap, I know of quite a few people who joined just for that. When I sat down and told them this can be learnt elsewhere from real professionals at a fraction of the cost, they were sorta stumped as to how to defend their silly
"investment" choice.
I'm very interested in educating the masses about how NTI works and moreover. I might not be from NTI or any other MLM but I sure know alot about them by going to their stuff, interviewing victims and researching on these companies. In the case of NTI, I probably know more about it than most high level managers as all they know is how to present their plans and to con more people. We all have our sources from within NTI and when it comes to how much their managers and directors are earning, I think its almost common knowledge for those in the know. Only they keep fooling new recruits through their ridiculous claims with their boiler room tactics. -
Eikei, Eikei, Eikei, I really admire your way of always bravely trying to pull down my credibility and always getting shot down by me in return.
It's a sign of sound courage and steely determination, and I really admire you for that.
Now I like posting thesis, you have a problem with that?
And because I think it's cute that you always give such big reactions to my posts, I will again post a long thesis on 'A Study of Eikei's Bulls.hitology'.
Such a mouthful. Do you work in the advertising sector, Eikei? If you are, what a lousy display of skills. A name must be catchy, must be easily remembered.Originally posted by Eikei:I really have to agree that your long thesis is a complete and through personal attack on me which I will not respond here as it is against the spirit of this thread. [/quote]
Against the spirit of this thread? Where in every page there is someone yabbering about NTI and people posting various personal attacks on its management? I don't see you not bothering to respond to them.
It's so funny to see you attempting to be self-righteous and all morally upright when you sound like a pompous dude.
The sad thing is, you probably think that you are right all the while.
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If my posts are your definitions of personal attacks, you must be emotionally very fragile.
No worries Eikei, some people were born weak. It's nothing to be ashamed of.
So far you still have not shown the document that you claim is an evidence of NTI's brainwashing. I guess when the push came to shove, you had no balls to do it.
It's ok Eikei, some men were born without balls too.
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Now, that is example of when I personally attack someone.
I could be meaner, but I don't want to hurt your feelings too badly, Eikei.
Also, I don't think it's necessary to snoop to your level and attack people's character in order to sound smart.
It is also against the spirit of this thread, huh Eikei?I shall give you a Honorary Title: NTI Page Clearer.
Why not Old Grandma? Naggy-Nag? NTI Nag? Spammie?
But thanks for the title, anyway. Nice to know you care so much for my status.
[quote]Everytime you come in, you will post long and tedious entries that do not do anything constructive and you always come in when one of your silly NTI agents get exposed on the forums.I remember telling you in the other thread to get your facts correct before you post, and seems like you have not, again. So don't blame me for shooting you down.
I joined the forums in May.
This thread is how many years old?
I have less than 50 posts - even adding the fact that I post long thesis, how many NTI agents could I possible have defended?
The first time I posted, it was regarding a forumer called weijian who questioned the payout of LPS.
Now, that guy was definitely not an NTI agent anymore, and he was definitely not defending NTI, so... I 'always come in when one of your silly NTI agents get exposed on the forums'?
Whatever, man. Your logic is starting to baffle me.
You are spectacular at jumping to conclusions, Eikei. If, perhaps, you can 'jump' a bit more carefully and check your facts about the things you posted, you won't sound like a pompous idiot all the time. -
We were just exposing Yadoking as a failed attempt to pretent to be Anti-NTI and also have concluded our discussion about why the 22nd floor has disappeared when you come in. Also, all the NTI and EGA threads are terribly hot now so perhaps you would like to clear the pages there too.
LOL Eikei!
If I remember correctly, I posted wrongly in the other thread? You saw the message when I stated that I posted wrongly too.
If I wanted to help Yadoking, I wouldn't have addressed NLP. The whole issue about NLP was in this thread, and you know it too.
My post was meant to be here. But you replied straightaway (so alert), so I replied you there.
Now, if you didn't want me to clear the page, maybe you could have just replied in this thread.
But to conclude that I was sent to divert attention from the topic at hand is absurd, because I posted wrongly in that thread in the first place.
(By the way, you really don't know a hoot about NLP. May I suggest reading up on the issue first before you attempt to post? If I can spend one week studying NLP, so can you.)
And don't worry, I will never PM you. Don't flatter yourself too much - you are not worth it. And I don't have to answer myself to you. In fact, with every post you typed, my respect for you dips ever the lower. You are starting to remind me of George Bush.
You are really showing a talent at jumping to conclusions left, right and center. Who knows, maybe after I post this post, you are going to jump to conclusions that I have a conspiracy with Fifa's organisers to fix the match between Germany and Costa Rica?
It would not be a departure from normal.If you said that I have not made any constructive arguments about NTI, I suggest you read the whole topic again. Anyway I have anonymous people and others who email me or PM me for information regarding NTI and alot of others who have told me how my posts have helped them understand the company more. I'm very glad everytime someone reads what I write, they walk away enriched and their money protected with their sound knowledge.
I read. Yep, still nothing constructive. Heavily biased, and very vague.
You can do a good career in the public relations industry, drumming up publicity for events. Mystery works, isn't it?
I'm very glad that you play such an important role in so many people's life. Crusader of the innocents, protecting Singaporeans from rogue MLM companies like NTI.
Be proud of your calling, Eikei. Every night, after work, you sit in front of your computer and keep a vigil, thinking that your actions mean something in the long run.
Know that one day when you pass away, you can tell your grandchildren, "One of the greatest things I ever did in my youth was to convince lots of people not to join this really baaaad company - and I did it all online!"
I feel like I must return the favor.
So embarrassing, you know, when someone gives you a present and you don't have anything for them.
You honoured me with the title of NTI Page Clearer; I hereby bestow you with the esteemed title of 'Captain Crusade'.
And yes, it's pointless, it's stupid, I have nothing better to do with my time, I admit. I'm waiting for the damn World Cup match to start.
Hey, just to help you out: if you want to insult me in the next post, do mention that my Photoshop skills suck.
Like I said before, I don't really care about what you say about me. But I'm sensitive about my Photoshop skills. Really sensitive.
To conclude my thesis:Originally posted by Eikei:
Of course, because these two posts are LONG, COMPLETE and THOROUGH PERSONAL ATTACKS on you, and because it's against the spirit of this thread, am I wrong to think that you will not reply?
I really have to agree that your long thesis is a complete and through personal attack on me which I will not respond here as it is against the spirit of this thread.
It's what you stated, anyway.
I don't know why I like aggravating you so much. Perhaps its the fact that I can feel your blustering anger from the posts you generate, and I find it amusing?
Anyway, relax. I will not reply you with long thesises (joy!) any more. Your arguments are built on hearsay and common gossip, and I find it hard not to laugh when talking to a guy who wholeheartedly believes that brainwashing can happen so easily. -
*Ding Dong*
Have I come the right topic? What is my uncle in naked doing there?
Posting of other's photo without permission is not allowed wor... I call my uncle to sue you.
Sometime, short and sweet is better than long and bulky.
Such a long thread but I see no substance in there
You should know comment and opinion is the cheapest things on earth. When people insult you, people curse you, people scold you (which you should had plenty of experience already) you will pretend it is not true and hypotise yourself.
Important: Even you totally pwned Eikie, pwned me, pwned Laurance82. It is totally useless, we are more concern with your coy instead. Taking down Eikie doesn't show why 22nd storey and Chinatown branch closed down.
Let me teach you how to defend (a sample, just like your feedback form sample):
When A ask: HeheheheHAHA, how come NTI become smaller??? I thought business office should become bigger and bigger? The toliet in your restroom (1st floor) smells so bad and is just right beside your OPP area, you know it will scare your prospect away??? LoooLL!!!
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Here is how you should answer
NTI Agent answered: (You must be thick skin and looked arrogant) Yo bro, no lar. I think you are mistaken lar... NTI become smaller is to benefit you and me.
Why? Lemme explain slowly to you,
-It closed down because the rent actually can gives us a higher pay rate.
-We are not targeting chinatown, we are targeting china, so don't bother opening a branch in chinatown right?
-Yes, office should become bigger, like out NTIIndonesia, the whole building. But hor, that time fire bring down the whole building, so we cease our plan there first, "WE WILL BE BACK!" (must say this like damn confident). But bro, you think hor, this is not jp business leh, it is yours, so jp closed them down and want U to build it up.
Furthermore, we are not relying on office anymore, we can do OPP anywhere, anytime.
-Many black sheep actually bring down the 1st shenton way already lar. Therefore we are moving to a new place soon. Now is just looking around and get the paperwork settled. We will provide you a more confortable place one bro.
You see what is a question and answer (Q&A). We ask you answer, you ask we answer. From your answer, we then debate on its base and credibility. Answering question is not by posting my uncle pic so simple. Please face us with more maturity, thanks.
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I dont read long thesis, so here goes.
Trying hard to use the character assasination ruse, still dont work on us.
You cant steer us away from the issues, whether by drawing a picture to make fun of eikei, tell us how much you know abt NLP etc etc
Still doesnt work
So, I will be asking the same damn questions, for example, how come EPI's Chinatown Point and NTI's 22nd floor closed down? You have even avoided my point on the MLM Act requiring operators of such schemes to provide a statistics of median mode mean income of distributors for example.
Its ok, continue flaming us, or creating pictures, whatever you guys usually do. Its allright -
Lol, this is what we called constuctive post.Originally posted by laurence82:I dont read long thesis, so here goes.
Trying hard to use the character assasination ruse, still dont work on us.
You cant steer us away from the issues, whether by drawing a picture to make fun of eikei, tell us how much you know abt NLP etc etc
Still doesnt work
So, I will be asking the same damn questions, for example, how come EPI's Chinatown Point and NTI's 22nd floor closed down? You have even avoided my point on the MLM Act requiring operators of such schemes to provide a statistics of median mode mean income of distributors for example.
Its ok, continue flaming us, or creating pictures, whatever you guys usually do. Its allright
Little content but full of substance.
Everytime a NTI agent do something stupid in the forum, NTI will get a -1.
The whole Singapore can see your post man, but they only know 1 fact:
NTI will use all they have to elimate one person. Just look at how you guys created multiple clones and target one person?
This is very weak and despicable to resort to such underhand means.
We are different, we have one and only one nick. We moving towards truth and liberty from NTI.
Unlike you, who is blinded by so called dreams and greeds.
Anyway I don't blame you for that 2 long post, you are simply tired at night, nothing better to do and brain become stupid. Go have a hot chocolate & a piece of bread, read up your NTI profile to get "motivate" and finally get some good rest.
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Amway agents created accounts to target other companiesOriginally posted by MosPyramid:Lol, this is what we called constuctive post.
Little content but full of substance.
Everytime a NTI agent do something stupid in the forum, NTI will get a -1.
The whole Singapore can see your post man, but they only know 1 fact:
NTI will use all they have to elimate one person. Just look at how you guys created multiple clones and target one person?
This is very weak and despicable to resort to such underhand means.
We are different, we have one and only one nick. We moving towards truth and liberty from NTI.
Unlike you, who is blinded by so called dreams and greeds.
Anyway I don't blame you for that 2 long post, you are simply tired at night, nothing better to do and brain become stupid. Go have a hot chocolate & a piece of bread, read up your NTI profile to get "motivate" and finally get some good rest.
It is very weak and despicable to resort to such underhand means
Company Assasination... Stop it you got pwned beat it
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Got printscreens?
Got pics?
No right?
People got to discern between making a statement and putting forth his points or evidence.
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I didn't bother the read the posts by Decantre 'cos they are getting repetitive. The childish poster is kinda cute though, I really appreciate the effort you put in to attempt to humour me. Show me the evidence of what you say. If your evidence is like your nice paycheck (a.k.a. almost non-existant) I suggest you work harder at recruiting and stay less on the forums. Your time can be better spent making random phone calls to teenagers or wandering the streets giving people "buisness opportunities".
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Lol, thanks for supporting me by using my sentences.Originally posted by N00dle:Amway agents created accounts to target other companies
It is very weak and despicable to resort to such underhand means
Company Assasination... Stop it you got pwned beat it
Or continue to entertain us, thanks
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Originally posted by laurence82:Got printscreens?
Got pics?
No right?
People got to discern between making a statement and putting forth his points or evidence.
Well, its allright if you dont have. We are ok with it
NPNT rule