Heard of Enyouth?
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ahahhahhaaha...poor brainwashed fcuker. i hope you wake up b4 u get your degree oterwise it will be a disgrace to all graduates out there.
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You remind me of Boon Keat... NTU also, except he was successful, unlike you. In the end he also has some conscience and left Astral Mag/NTI. There are many factors causing your dad's BP to drop. His medication was probably working. As I've said before, it is unbecoming of a university student to mistake a TESTIMONIAL for EVIDENCE. I can sleep well with any mattress, do all of them have some magnetic power hidden in the coils?Originally posted by MrLobang:Thx.. And i Am in NTU already. I said before i treat this as a part time. Hmm.. my parents is ethical too. THey are supportive what am i doing. Oh, for that non medical evidance thing. My dad highblood pressure fall to a normal range and he has been sleeping well..
So if you or your parents are not using it, dont try to give me what u understand of the product.
MLM is just another industry and its up to u to believe it. There is nothing to debate about since its your choice joining it or not. Anyway u slowly earn your money and face backstabbing and bad bosses everyday. I know u will say u are happy with your job but dont be negative on other industry.
If you don't understand the product to be able to explain how it works, why it works and provide sufficient literature to prove it, don't try to give us what you understand of the product.
MLM has been proven time and time again to be not economically viable for most participants and what we do here is to warn people about this fact that is often disguised by over zealous and brainwashed distributors. -
Well... if any of u who happen to be sick or have a chance to meet up with a doctor. ask them whether magnetic therapy work.. U will get the answer whether to buy this product or not......
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Well... like what i say. i guess the i have more product knowledge than u since u dun even know whats the product for what is it all about. Go find a doctor and ask. I guess you are now being ignorant in your case.
GOod luck anyway for your future endeavours. Whether i am successful anot its your prob since whatever i earn i am not going to share with you. Hmm... earning more than you now is a confirm thing. So i shall stop here and you should cont and talk more negative about MLM or whatever company.. It doesnt pay u to do all these anyway. U like wasting your time here.. -
hey ya men they r juz wastin their time here,,shit them off menOriginally posted by MrLobang:Well... like what i say. i guess the i have more product knowledge than u since u dun even know whats the product for what is it all about. Go find a doctor and ask. I guess you are now being ignorant in your case.
GOod luck anyway for your future endeavours. Whether i am successful anot its your prob since whatever i earn i am not going to share with you. Hmm... earning more than you now is a confirm thing. So i shall stop here and you should cont and talk more negative about MLM or whatever company.. It doesnt pay u to do all these anyway. U like wasting your time here.. -
Hahaha from your description I do not need to know what your product is about. If you know so much would you kindly provide the evidence and the research papers here for us to scutinise? I don't need to find a doc and ask, in a few year's time, I'll still say the same thing.Originally posted by MrLobang:Well... like what i say. i guess the i have more product knowledge than u since u dun even know whats the product for what is it all about. Go find a doctor and ask. I guess you are now being ignorant in your case.
GOod luck anyway for your future endeavours. Whether i am successful anot its your prob since whatever i earn i am not going to share with you. Hmm... earning more than you now is a confirm thing. So i shall stop here and you should cont and talk more negative about MLM or whatever company.. It doesnt pay u to do all these anyway. U like wasting your time here..
Nobody wants to share your ill gotten gains. You definitely do not know how much I earn and hence there is no way to prove you earn more than me, the same as there is no way to prove that your product and company is good. It doesn't pay for people to volunteer their time to help the needy and yet people still do it. I feel happy trying to enlighten people like you. It gives me great pleasure and satisfaction watching how you squirm and lie and attempt to convince people of something this is untrue.
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So your friend is doing well?? Hmm... there're also plenty of "rich" singaporeans ridden with debts... Those SDMs are best in "branding" themselves IMO. Hope your friend is really cash rich... tsk tsk...Originally posted by MrLobang:Yah.. i comprehend what you are trying to say. Its good to hear opinions from both sides. However i wish to emphasis that you should not comment on the mattress of its credibility. My mum uses it and her Health improve. She is satifiy with it. Other people whom i sold it to do have good testimonial.
Another thing, will u buy a brandless TV from ebay for $50 or a TV that cost hmm $300 from a company that has warrenty. In this sociey, its either u buy or u sell... MLM works in a standard way. selling and recruting. U call that inethical or cheating your friend? Its up to them to join and they will have to do the same in order to succeed.
Anyway one of my friend is doing quite well and getting the car soon. Do you think he will give a damm on what negative stuff this forum says? He is richer than all of you., enjoying his life. InethicaL way of earning money? Sue him then. Is not even illegal. Ur success depends on your effort.
One last thing, if any of you think that the product sux or the price is way too high, go find DSAS or whatever authority to check on it. SUE THE COMPANY! Make it collasp then. OSIM chairs cost few k because of its advertisement. But people still buy it. why? Cos of the branding right. Will they actually comtemplate on what is the cost price? I am wondering what if OSIM goes into MLM.... what will happen. Then you all will again flame OSIM saying its products sux and whatsoever. Too superficial man guys.... Find out urself one bio medical magnet cost how much pls...
Cannot sue the company lah... No evidence to prove that MT is harmful... but that doesn't mean that it's useful... Testimonials can be dubious... We're not talking about faith here... Just concrete evidence.. something which MT lacks...
Heh heh... With regards to OSIM, I wonder why they DON'T go into MLM...
Maybe the chairs'll cost tens of thousands then.. Ouch.. 
OSIM massage chairs may be more expensive than other similar chairs in the market... you may also be right that it's because of branding... But I wonder how branded is "Enyouth" now to justify the price?? Advertising?? nope... Maybe it's because of the need to help the car achievers pay for their cars... duh... -
hook, line, sinker, another sucker up the rod. Good luck, the dark side awaits youOriginally posted by MrLobang:Well... like what i say. i guess the i have more product knowledge than u since u dun even know whats the product for what is it all about. Go find a doctor and ask. I guess you are now being ignorant in your case.
GOod luck anyway for your future endeavours. Whether i am successful anot its your prob since whatever i earn i am not going to share with you. Hmm... earning more than you now is a confirm thing. So i shall stop here and you should cont and talk more negative about MLM or whatever company.. It doesnt pay u to do all these anyway. U like wasting your time here.. -
My friend, do some research on the net to see if magnetic therapy really works - being approved by the FDA does not necessarily infer its effectiveness.
Just as there are many sites advocating MT, there's an equal number proclaiming its ineffectiveness - in certain cases, increasing risk of cancer. Simple search on google or yahoo can turn up the results - eg. http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/QA/magnet.html.
Placebo effect is a powerful factor in medical studies - hence its ubiquitious employment in hospitals worldwide. Please take this into your consideration too.
Products aside, the MLM model is failing in this new century. The decline is very obvious, yet it is the agents who are deluding themselves because they sincerely believe that this is their only chance to catch the golden goose, and by this belief alone they are elevated to a higher plateau of status from the common working man. They tend to look their noses down at 'employees' of companies, thinking to themselves that they are the ones who have the holy tried and proven method to success (by their so-called top achievers).
In the meantime, those others work hard, save hard, understanding along the way the trappings of how the wheel of fortune works. They utilize their finances wisely and when an opportune period arrives, they choose to invest in their own entrepreneurial start-ups. Some fail, some succeed, and it is those who succeed after failing many times who'll make it to multi-millionaires, a term very rarely used in the world of MLM. Instead, car-achievers (should be termed 2nd hand car achiever) or 'senior' posts play a very powerful role in masking the pragmatic mentality of the agents, who are swept in a tide of pressurised sales generation in the hope of being 'respected' by the other lowly minions to whom they once belonged to.
Face it, not everyone has a chance to be on stage and be admired at. MLM plays on this psyche to fantastic effect - a newcomer comes in, looks at a young pimply-faced manager driving a 2nd hand BMW and thinks to himself, "Wow, I could be like that if I were to join this company." The effect is further enhanced when everywhere the manager goes, lower agents greet him with infused courtesy befitting that of our Prime Minister. For the average Ah Beng out on the streets, this might just be his ticket to fame (albeit within a small company) and fortune (if a nice sounding post and 2nd hand cars are your cup of tea).
Unfortunately, upon signing up...well the rest is history. Some are still very eager to defend their stand, as to admit that they were wrong would seriously impugn on their intelligence. However, they are faced with mixed feelings when defending their choice - one part, the Jekyll side, tells them that deep down, this is wrong, while the other part, the Hyde side, says this should be the right thing to do. After all, there is your pride to consider - think of the ridicule you'll face after you have shown your committment to all those close to you! Caught in a struggle, agents will drift in and out of their motivation to 'succeed' in MLM - vigorous persuasion from the 'top' will be duly needed to keep the 'devils' or 'xin bin' at bay. After all, these top guys realise, if their group is dissolved, so is their income, and good luck to maintaining their lifestyle. Forget residual income - if sales are getting lesser in the company, so will be the same fate for salaries. Residual income is a farce, a very pretty way of firing up one's inherent laziness to work and causing the imagination to wander off-limits. And also causing the hand to wander off-limits, punching in the 6-digit pin and handing over hard-earned cash earned by oneself or provided by loving parents.
Useful? Useless? I'll leave that for you to decide.
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Ur dad use it and blood pressure reduced??Originally posted by MrLobang:Thx.. And i Am in NTU already. I said before i treat this as a part time. Hmm.. my parents is ethical too. THey are supportive what am i doing. Oh, for that non medical evidance thing. My dad highblood pressure fall to a normal range and he has been sleeping well..
So if you or your parents are not using it, dont try to give me what u understand of the product.
MLM is just another industry and its up to u to believe it. There is nothing to debate about since its your choice joining it or not. Anyway u slowly earn your money and face backstabbing and bad bosses everyday. I know u will say u are happy with your job but dont be negative on other industry.
good for him..
but i also must said..
I DID buy the mat. and in the end.. i still have to go down to NUH.
I thought it was cause by the POWER of the MAT.
that why i ask the doctor in charge.
and get my answer.
As for bad bosses...
Ya.. u also got to face with BAd customers..
so in the end... we are even..
dun tell me u meet with good customers.
cause we also may have good bosses.
as for backstabbing?
Great , look who talking..
u are the person with the knife and stab ur friends to get ur PVs....
as least we stab ppl who isn't our friend.
u stab ppl that IS ur friends , relatives... -
infact my bro saw her b4Originally posted by wensoccerhonky07:she was so excited about me teaching her make-up the last time we conversed! it's sad to hear that she has gone... a real pity to her parents; they raised her up and had to see her leave...
my condolences (forgive my spelling) to all her family members, relatives, and friends...
in memory of:
shining*star
RIP.
he and his bunch of friends knew her bf...
she used to hang out at arcades in yishun?
quite a pretty gal
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then may i ask u how come one of your director left?Originally posted by MrLobang:Gosh.. i see this forum and feel like laughing man.
All of u are so gullable and ignorant. There are people who can make it and those who cant. Those who cant will just spreading all these "Proofless" evidance to undermine the company name.
Why all those Pioneer SDMs left? U know them by person? u think they will tell the truth too? Why must be the company and not themself. Army also got people who quit and give up. Does it mean the SAF so ineffective. Management wise sux. Cosmag to enyouth is just a change in branding wise btw. -
Well, its quite funny 'cos one of the Pioneer SDMs is here on the forums and that I've spoken with him personally too. Mr. Lobang is just new to this all and he can't see beyond the myth that was presented to him. There are alot of facts and arguments presented here and its sad that people jump to defend before reading why others feel that way about the company.
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Wah piang... So long and "chim"... Mr Lobang can't understand leh... In short Enyouth sux...Originally posted by Rigante:My friend, do some research on the net to see if magnetic therapy really works - being approved by the FDA does not necessarily infer its effectiveness.
Just as there are many sites advocating MT, there's an equal number proclaiming its ineffectiveness - in certain cases, increasing risk of cancer. Simple search on google or yahoo can turn up the results - eg. http://www.quackwatch.org/04ConsumerEducation/QA/magnet.html.
Placebo effect is a powerful factor in medical studies - hence its ubiquitious employment in hospitals worldwide. Please take this into your consideration too.
Products aside, the MLM model is failing in this new century. The decline is very obvious, yet it is the agents who are deluding themselves because they sincerely believe that this is their only chance to catch the golden goose, and by this belief alone they are elevated to a higher plateau of status from the common working man. They tend to look their noses down at 'employees' of companies, thinking to themselves that they are the ones who have the holy tried and proven method to success (by their so-called top achievers).
In the meantime, those others work hard, save hard, understanding along the way the trappings of how the wheel of fortune works. They utilize their finances wisely and when an opportune period arrives, they choose to invest in their own entrepreneurial start-ups. Some fail, some succeed, and it is those who succeed after failing many times who'll make it to multi-millionaires, a term very rarely used in the world of MLM. Instead, car-achievers (should be termed 2nd hand car achiever) or 'senior' posts play a very powerful role in masking the pragmatic mentality of the agents, who are swept in a tide of pressurised sales generation in the hope of being 'respected' by the other lowly minions to whom they once belonged to.
Face it, not everyone has a chance to be on stage and be admired at. MLM plays on this psyche to fantastic effect - a newcomer comes in, looks at a young pimply-faced manager driving a 2nd hand BMW and thinks to himself, "Wow, I could be like that if I were to join this company." The effect is further enhanced when everywhere the manager goes, lower agents greet him with infused courtesy befitting that of our Prime Minister. For the average Ah Beng out on the streets, this might just be his ticket to fame (albeit within a small company) and fortune (if a nice sounding post and 2nd hand cars are your cup of tea).
Unfortunately, upon signing up...well the rest is history. Some are still very eager to defend their stand, as to admit that they were wrong would seriously impugn on their intelligence. However, they are faced with mixed feelings when defending their choice - one part, the Jekyll side, tells them that deep down, this is wrong, while the other part, the Hyde side, says this should be the right thing to do. After all, there is your pride to consider - think of the ridicule you'll face after you have shown your committment to all those close to you! Caught in a struggle, agents will drift in and out of their motivation to 'succeed' in MLM - vigorous persuasion from the 'top' will be duly needed to keep the 'devils' or 'xin bin' at bay. After all, these top guys realise, if their group is dissolved, so is their income, and good luck to maintaining their lifestyle. Forget residual income - if sales are getting lesser in the company, so will be the same fate for salaries. Residual income is a farce, a very pretty way of firing up one's inherent laziness to work and causing the imagination to wander off-limits. And also causing the hand to wander off-limits, punching in the 6-digit pin and handing over hard-earned cash earned by oneself or provided by loving parents.
Useful? Useless? I'll leave that for you to decide. 
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Hehe.. You are in NTU already... Don't mislead people lah... In NTU doesn't mean offered a course in NTU.. You can be in NTU to use the toilet or "beo" the babes at that moment... Go back to primary school lah...Originally posted by MrLobang:Thx.. And i Am in NTU already. I said before i treat this as a part time. Hmm.. my parents is ethical too. THey are supportive what am i doing. Oh, for that non medical evidance thing. My dad highblood pressure fall to a normal range and he has been sleeping well.. I am in NTU also... Guess what I'm doing there???
"They are supportive of what am I doing".... What do you mean by this sentence!?!? You don't even know what you're doing?!?!
So if I'm using it, I can "give you" what I understand of the product?? How about s.h.i.t?? You want?? Because I used the product and it's worse than s.h.i.t!!! At least s.h.i.t can be used as fertiliser...Originally posted by MrLobang:So if you or your parents are not using it, dont try to give me what u understand of the product.
Then why the f are you so negative about other industries?? Why must you proclaim that other industries are facing back stabbing and bad bosses?? Why curse us by saying "slowly earn our money"... ??Originally posted by MrLobang:MLM is just another industry and its up to u to believe it. There is nothing to debate about since its your choice joining it or not. Anyway u slowly earn your money and face backstabbing and bad bosses everyday. I know u will say u are happy with your job but dont be negative on other industry.
I know you will say you are happy with MLM but don't be negative on other industries leh... You're full of crap leh Lobang Ah boy... Always contradicting yourself...
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*bish* *bish* *slap* *bam*
linchiling seems to be quite pro at gangstering his/her way with nonsensical people like MrLobang. This forum needs ppl like you to counter their rubbish by arguing in their style. -
The only thing I hate about Enyouth is its members kept shouting "TIU" randomly. It was scary at first, after that, it was plain irritating. Lotz of pretty girls there though.
But seriously, pardon me if I am wrong, but from what I understood the other day when I was invited into one of their talks, once you flip the coin, you will find that MLM's survival is actually dependant on the population within its own network, the more people join, the more products sold, because to join, you have to buy their products. And once population increase, you get more people stuck in the spiderweb trying to hit sales target to climb up...again its equavalent to more products sold.
That's why MLM is always trying to get people to join, the more people there is in their spiderweb, the more money is passed to the top. That's why people who reached the very top in enyouth get free cars, because more people like you and me are being recruited and paying for it.
Its possible to reach the top, but you know, you need to have a very persuasive personality to seel your products. I mean REALLY persuasive. -
Eh...when did Lin Chiling get so crude? To Mr Lobang, whatever you say.it's DUI DUI DUI! DUI LEI AH!
Haha joining the gangsta style is more fulfilling - is that why MLM agents use the same style to force their prospects into buying as it is more satisfying to their ego? -
Actually if EY is so GOOD.
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Originally posted by Rigante:Eh...when did Lin Chiling get so crude? To Mr Lobang, whatever you say.it's DUI DUI DUI! DUI LEI AH!
Haha joining the gangsta style is more fulfilling - is that why MLM agents use the same style to force their prospects into buying as it is more satisfying to their ego? -
Misunderstood your message.. Allow linchiling to give a lesson on hanyu pinyin to prevent other fellow forumers from misunderstanding too. hahaha..Originally posted by Rigante:Eh...when did Lin Chiling get so crude? To Mr Lobang, whatever you say.it's DUI DUI DUI! DUI LEI AH!
Haha joining the gangsta style is more fulfilling - is that why MLM agents use the same style to force their prospects into buying as it is more satisfying to their ego? 
To those who don't understand chinese. What Rigante typed is the cantonese translation of F**k, F**k, F**k! F**k You ah! And this is also what the distributors are like over at enyouth. Constantly spewing vulgarities as described by derrick_..
My apologies for my outburst in the previous post. It's so unlike my usual demeanor.... *sob* all mr lobang's fault... :p
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Please refrain from posting my pic online
And your hanyu pinyin needs correcting too- Lin Zhiling is the right spelling, not Lin Chiling. Try harder if you are my fan trying to emulate me.
By the way please do not edit my pic and tone my breasts down. Kindly show them in their original glory
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ai ya.. it just only an account name.. why so work up??Originally posted by linzhiling:Please refrain from posting my pic online
And your hanyu pinyin needs correcting too- Lin Zhiling is the right spelling, not Lin Chiling. Try harder if you are my fan trying to emulate me.
By the way please do not edit my pic and tone my breasts down. Kindly show them in their original glory
I bet u isn't Lin Zhiling also..
so why not just take it easy?
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Er...you could tell by my tone it was in a joking tone...
Take things in a lighter tone dude
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Check the name....Originally posted by linzhiling:Please refrain from posting my pic online
And your hanyu pinyin needs correcting too- Lin Zhiling is the right spelling, not Lin Chiling. Try harder if you are my fan trying to emulate me.
By the way please do not edit my pic and tone my breasts down. Kindly show them in their original glory carry on with your nonsense and I'll get my horse to trample on your neh neh, or mr lobang... 