Heard of Enyouth?
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Just here to add my objective view on this subject:
I guess there are alot of Networking companies out there who uses different techniques for recruitment. There are also bad horses in each company, be it Corporate companies or networking companies. But there's a fact that we cannot deny that majority of the products sold by Networking companies are not bad.
Eg: Bath Soap from NuSkin smells heavenly on your skin even after a few hours. The dietry fibre from Melaluka proves to be very good to our digestive systems and it helps in detoxicficating our system. The calcium pills from Amway really did help alot of woman in strengthing their bones. And of course the F.I.R mattress from Enyouth also proves great help for our blood circulation.
People who joined all these Networking company, i believe what you should look at should be the following;
1) Can you firstly trust the person that brought you to the Company?
(long time friend, relatives, brothers..etc)
2) Why would you want to explore other money generating opportunities in the first place?
(need to support family, pay for studies, extra pocket money... etc)
3) Are you comfortable with the enviroment that you see?
(are the people there serious in this business or are they there for fun...etc)
4) Do you think you can succeed in this enviroment?
(Main point is not in what company you join, but what kind of person are you. If personally you are a fighter, you'll excel in any sales job that you find and the boss will be very pleased with you. You will also expect a high flying career. But if you are not, it doesn't matter where you go. You'll also keep on complaining about the company, the system, the people and everything but yourself.)
Motivational talks in Networking industry is roughly the same as what you will find in financial industries. Their basis is the same. I encourage people who attend these talks to take the seminars as an educational ones, meaning listen to those things that are applicable to you, and dump those information which is not. Only this way, can we improve ourselves. This is applicable to any talk or seminars we sign up for. Sometimes, the speaker may be good. But not all of the content may be suitable for your case. Therefore as adults, we would have to know how to identify and filter information.
Lastly, i would wish to add, by writing "things" about any Company here will prove to be very foolish of us. Cause while those people that we talked about are still earning big bucks, taking their over ridings, and here we are writing our ass off without being paid a cent. End of the day, the only way to prove them wrong will be to be more successful than them.
And whether you like it or not, the Networking industy will boom in 2008 when Singapore host the Worldwide Direct Selling Assocaition Congress in Singapore. I believe that a string of marketing campaigns will be held before the actual congress. And the Govt will explain more in detail what this industry is all about and how it can help us. This industry have proven to to be the 3rd most profitable company in the whole world as stated in Fortune 500 magazine. If it can help U.S to improve their econmy & they have been doing it for the past 50 yrs, i'm sure this industry will help spur Singapore and many countries too.
My conclusion will be, look for a suitable Company that you are comfortable with. And make sure you are at the top before 2008. And you'll reap the profits. Don't be like the bubble tea owners. Monkey see than monkey do, in the end all die together. The person who benefits the most is the pioneers who started the business than sold off to other owners. Don't be sour grapes. Make sure you can be better off than all of those whom you have mention. As for you, your friend brought you to Enyouth. You left the Company. If one day, your friend were to suceed there, and drive you around with his / her BMW, how would you feel? Nothing is more important than having money in your pocket. Face the fact. You and your family need to eat. Your bfs & gfs need presents. You need a trip overseas to relax. All these need money. But earn it without betraying your conscience, that's more important. -
Hi Jus-me,
Tats a good post. I buy ur idear.
I jz dun understand y so many ppl like to look back in their live. Come on, Move on. -
You know how people learn? By learning from their own mistakes as well as others, to avoid the same pitfalls again.. I believe many here are sharing their past exp in the hope of helping others not to commit similar mistakes. I respect their magnanimity in sharing, and not "moving on" as what you've quoted..Originally posted by foody:Hi Jus-me,
Tats a good post. I buy ur idear.
I jz dun understand y so many ppl like to look back in their live. Come on, Move on.
And what makes you so sure they've not moved on in real life? -
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hmm... how about look thing in another way..Originally posted by jus-me:Just here to add my objective view on this subject:
Don't be sour grapes. Make sure you can be better off than all of those whom you have mention. As for you, your friend brought you to Enyouth. You left the Company. If one day, your friend were to suceed there, and drive you around with his / her BMW, how would you feel?
few years down the road.
ur friend who bring u down to enyouth..
is still struggling to survive..
while u have make it big in other business...
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Yap. Agree. There's always both sides to a coin. It just depends on which way you want to look at it. For me, i just don't like to regret. If i see an opportunity, and when i dont see myself having anything to lose, i'll tend to go for it.
This is quite applicable in a sense, when you like someone and even though you can't be sure this person will be your last love, you'll still go ahead and woo her.
In your sense, if my friend is still struggling to survive, i'll salute him/her for their perseverance. Cause with perseveranvce, you'll tend to go a long way no matter where you go. And the tendency to succeed is higher. Without perseverence in your belief, job, relationship or whatsoever, you'll always end up nowhere but blaming everyone but yourself. And other people's success is always on luck, and you just happen to lack it.Originally posted by spycampers:hmm... how about look thing in another way..
few years down the road.
ur friend who bring u down to enyouth..
is still struggling to survive..
while u have make it big in other business...
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Everyday, people make decisons in life. When you have made one, do not blame others but yourself.
In this industry, there are definately people who made it, and heaps of people who don't.
Forgive me for being frank. For these people who agreed to sign the forms in the first place was tempted by the thought of an additional income. But in the end, their focus on the topic was not not on how tedious this route is or how much determination and hard work you need to have in order to make this work or how much sales have they done and the Company is owing them commissions. But they are talking about how they was so call cheated to sign the forms.
If you study this industry's busines model carefully, you will know that this industry only have irresponsible leaders but not leaders who will want to harm you. For a simple reason, they need to have a big group in order for them to get the desired income. What good do they have to "cheat" you up and psycho you to buy one product and have you bad mouth them for the rest of your life. Is it really worth it?Originally posted by linchiling:You know how people learn? By learning from their own mistakes as well as others, to avoid the same pitfalls again.. I believe many here are sharing their past exp in the hope of helping others not to commit similar mistakes. I respect their magnanimity in sharing, and not "moving on" as what you've quoted..
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Hello,I would like to share with you all that. That time, I bought this cleansing with toning & ALA+ and Phyto-C Plus product from enyouth. They said this product are very good.At bottom of the bottle, It written astral mag pte ltd,those disturbutor say that only singapore got this mlm company which other country don't have.Somemore, the liquild of cleansing is very watering after I use all the product there is don't have any effect. It like normal.
spycamper, How they mix the product of cleansing,toning & ALA+ and Pyto-c Plus? They got their own factory or in their office got a hidden place to make the product sercertly ?Why they use the billy DJ of FM97.2 of his sickness as a promoter to sell the product? Why they also use the magic word '' To make people Healthy '' ?Will you think those younger generation who continue working in enyouth will get stuck? will you think they will feel very stress that they do not have money to pay their bill?
When I walking pass-by, I went to the carpenter st to see how they surive it. I went there , i saw them like restless standing along the carpark smoking like strugling,wasting time wearing with formal uniform and long pants. That time , I use to see alot of car park at there, but nowadays, very few cars parking at there somemore i don't know why those people working enyouth,they park their BMW car at the back lane but not at the main carpark. I do not know why ? Spycamper, can you tell me? I just saw they only drive around the carpenter st and why not all over the place? is it they no liences at all? I even saw the person who drive me to tao pahyo, but his face look like very stress. He just like talking jokes with me and say'' Never mind it's ok I can bring you to the place'' will you think he drive the car but without liences so he worry? Somemore he just buy the cheapest drink & food to eat. Somemore working in enyouth shall have high standard and not eating in those kind of hawker centre wearing with nice clothes. Will you think the car they drive all are rent or drive his parent car?
One of the guy looks like gangster, But where can be owning a car. But i read from his friendster info , the car which he driving is rent from the car rental. Is it he want to show off that he rich?Will you think he got any driving liences? -
yo..Originally posted by lifezone88:Hello,I would like to share with you all that. That time, I bought this cleansing with toning & ALA+ and Phyto-C Plus product from enyouth. They said this product are very good.At bottom of the bottle, It written astral mag pte ltd,those disturbutor say that only singapore got this mlm company which other country don't have.Somemore, the liquild of cleansing is very watering after I use all the product there is don't have any effect. It like normal.
spycamper, How they mix the product of cleansing,toning & ALA+ and Pyto-c Plus? They got their own factory or in their office got a hidden place to make the product sercertly ?Why they use the billy DJ of FM97.2 of his sickness as a promoter to sell the product? Why they also use the magic word '' To make people Healthy '' ?Will you think those younger generation who continue working in enyouth will get stuck? will you think they will feel very stress that they do not have money to pay their bill?
When I walking pass-by, I went to the carpenter st to see how they surive it. I went there , i saw them like restless standing along the carpark smoking like strugling,wasting time wearing with formal uniform and long pants. That time , I use to see alot of car park at there, but nowadays, very few cars parking at there somemore i don't know why those people working enyouth,they park their BMW car at the back lane but not at the main carpark. I do not know why ? Spycamper, can you tell me? I just saw they only drive around the carpenter st and why not all over the place? is it they no liences at all? I even saw the person who drive me to tao pahyo, but his face look like very stress. He just like talking jokes with me and say'' Never mind it's ok I can bring you to the place'' will you think he drive the car but without liences so he worry? Somemore he just buy the cheapest drink & food to eat. Somemore working in enyouth shall have high standard and not eating in those kind of hawker centre wearing with nice clothes. Will you think the car they drive all are rent or drive his parent car?
One of the guy looks like gangster, But where can be owning a car. But i read from his friendster info , the car which he driving is rent from the car rental. Is it he want to show off that he rich?Will you think he got any driving liences?
sorry bro..
didn't really have time to reply ur message that time.
cause now me headache..
got to worry about marriage..
getting marriage soon..
so many things need to consider.. plan.. etc
anyway.
as for EY..
hmm.. in the past they are using the name of astral mag.
now the bottle still come with astral mag.
Y not EY??
this is not for me to go into Y.
but if the thing is doing very well.
it should be label with EY.. not astral mag.
how they mix the thing..
i don't have a ideas.
think most likely is from cheap company oversea to manufacture the thing..
as for ur qns about
I even saw the person who drive me to tao pahyo, but his face look like very stress. He just like talking jokes with me and say'' Never mind it's ok I can bring you to the place'' will you think he drive the car but without liences so he worry?
i think he worry about the petrol he is using on driving u to Toa payoh.
or the car isn't his..
if knock onto something.
he got to pay back
not he not license ba.
think he won't have so big a ball to drive car in singapore without license.
as for the cars outside.
think most really own the cars.
but at a price .i meant a quota that they have to reach each month..
so ya.. they have cars..
but they must find innocence ppl to join or buy their stuff.. -
I SELL THE WHOLE SINGLE + 2 PILLOW PAD For $500.. BRAND NEW!! FRM ENYOUTH!!! MSG ME NOW!!..... GOT 2 Sets
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The surrounding ppl of those in ENY have the worst ripple effect.
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Positive Thinking
Negative ThinkingOriginally posted by jus-me:Just here to add my objective view on this subject:
Don't be sour grapes. Make sure you can be better off than all of those whom you have mention. As for you, your friend brought you to Enyouth. You left the Company. If one day, your friend were to suceed there, and drive you around with his / her BMW, how would you feel?
Now I shall Give a Balance ThinkingOriginally posted by spycampers:hmm... how about look thing in another way..
few years down the road.
ur friend who bring u down to enyouth..
is still struggling to survive..
while u have make it big in other business...
how will u feel?
Whatever the results your friend is having good or bad in the future DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL BE DOING JUST AS WELL OR AS BAD AS YOUR FRIEND!
THEIR SUCCESS DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU
they will not give you their salary if its' good few yrs down the road.
YOU ARE IN-CHARGE OF YOUR OWN RESULTS.
SO If You Want To SucceeD! Achieve results yourself, work for it and don't based your success/failure rate on other's percentage.
Now for a little sharing on what I observe when i drop by there myself
Enyouth, I went down already, feel their method of closing is rather no good.
1)Where got friend bring friend down to company, intro the mgr to you already than run away one?
It's like as if your friend is selling you away like that.
2nd, their office space is BIG, but spread over 4 lvls, Oh My God, go to different lvls, have to take the lift so many times, and their building location like not very traffic-friendly, hard to find.
3rd, their method of bringing friends over, ask you go to the bus-stop and meet them, instead of them coming to the mrt to meet you.
4th, they die die use call, not even flexible to use sms, like sms a bit will die like that.
5th, the office like they said, have no barrier open office concept between the managers, but if it's the case, than why still have the divider in the first place?
6th, their office, staff office where mgrs sit and present plan in, is SUPER MESSY. is that a CORPORATE IMAGE?
7th, their method of comparing MLM VS SLM, saying MLM uplines overright your commission, not good thus unfair, than the same thing is also in SLM, OVER-RIGHTING also, contradicting.
8th, all those car-achievers, their pay-cheque is like $10,000- $30,000 is the highest I personally seen on the boards they pasted.
Other companies top mgr is already doing way better than $30,000 per month.
9th, their products, no commets, market that it caters to not a lot, limited age group than need the products, how to sell (Hard-Selling) to relatives?
10th, the most cute thing is I see more China Based Students in Enyouth than Singaporeans.
11th, Their first IMAGE!! Corporate image?
I doubt so, majority of the people in the office, agents are not in Formal
12th, the AGE GROUP, all youngsters, how to learn the experiencees and exposure from adults when they fail to attract those adults and the seniors.
Most of the people are youngsters. What can you learn from them honestly speaking.
13th, ABCs, no proper sitting arrangement can't see the presentater words clearing. those worked in mlm, should know what i mean.
14th, they don't really elaborate on products, just a few sentences of it than that's it. they themselves not enough Product knowledge, still want to convince me to buy their products.
Just the Alpha Licfolic Acid, I also have more product knowledge than the bridge who bring me there. what a joke!
15th, their just say the things they want, not what I am looking for..
I'll just stop here, if not the more I say, they more they correct their mistakes, than will act like they very good like that, when they no substance inside at all.
I'm not saying I very good, just that I have experience and I know what I am looking for. -
u shld check the RCB of both enyouth & astral mag... u will find smthing interesting
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what's RCB?Originally posted by Bacon&Eggs:u shld check the RCB of both enyouth & astral mag... u will find smthing interesting
astral mag I haven being down to the company yet.
anybody who can bring me to the company and let me tour round the company?
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Astral mag physical company is nt around but in the RCB it is still under active. RCB is the registration of companies. Where they state who the directors are and what is the paid up capital
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Jusme, at the end of the day, what you said were just a bunch of bull and crap ppl here have been talking about for so long. There is no need for me to write this post, but hey, at least it's short. You wrote couple of paragraphs of bull and crap just to convey an idea all of us here have known of ages.
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came to know bout dis v interesting n informative forum jus recently!
but hey...it sure is disappointing to see threads coming in lesser! all bout dis co. n its distributors!
can anyone out there provide d %payout for OD,TD,CD,ED,DM & SDM respectively? i met up with an ex-distributor and he mentioned something bout the payout which did not deem fair regarding the mattress' sales. is the 1/3 & 2/3 PV still in the compensation plan?
cheers!
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Just yesterdae kana asked to meetup for trying out a partime job.... sounds rather unbelievable in the first place but fishy at the same time.... THANKS to this forum and realise that its all a HOAX....
those people are so undecent.. first look at them gives me the impression that they are gansters.... smokers, pretenious and showy of their cars... just this i am wondering what are they trying to show?
those ppl there are so secretive... ask them wat are they dealing with and stuff... simply dont one to say. i think their ENY name has been long tarnished so if they tell us, ppl will just run away... therefore asking u not to tell anyone about the job, they take this chance to brainwash u and by then its hard for other people outside to convince u ler
all those people are either kana brainwashed till so loyal or either acting to be kind but within them they are laughing at having more and more stupids becoming their $$ generators
yersterdae this sweet talker guy really too sweet lor...
say thay i looked very farmilar to him... throughout the presentation with 5 other people, keep looking at me till i pai seh 
then when talking about gamble... he says wat if he wana chase me that's also a gamble... i was really DIAO!!
hOPEFULLY i can spread the news to save people from being brain washed in becoming the puppet of ENY. -
Seriously, I'm here typing my first reply. Is not to say whether enyouth is good or not. But more of. Why is everyone looking down at Network marketing.
Malaysia had been on network marketing for over 50years.
Amway had been doing for 70years, and can you tell me what happened in their first 10 years of operation? Can you tell me that all the people worked during that period actually stick to the company.
In this country. As long as the government didn't say "yes, it can be done" more than 70% of the people in Singapore will always say it's a scam. I really wonder. How people really succeed in the business world with such a mindset? What is wrong with Raymond? If he really is such a sucker. So what? At least he got people who believe in him. And he is earning freaking big bucks. The reason i see that you are flaming these companies is because you THINK and ASSUMED these companies will give you a monthly pay of over 2000 plus without much effort into it.
To all the people who are really wondering what the fuck is MLM or Network Marketing. It's just like franchising a product of a company. Just that you no longer have to pay for the rental fee of a shop, the advertising of the product. You just have to be a business man who uses the product. Then pass the good words around and people buys from you. Then when you start earning. You knows that this can bring food to your hand. You start bring people in. When they start selling like you do. You just got more food into your house.
Whats so hard to accept MLM? I strictly do not understand about it. So what they come up with the car incentives? So what with the title. It's just a way to make people who work there feel that there is a goal that they can achive. And not to just keep selling like a farking salesman. When first MLM came to Singapore. All you guys did was to say that it's another salesman job and all went "fuck off". Now that MLM is working for some fellow mates. You start saying that it's a scam. Cause some people earn enough from the business and left.
Seriously, when they left. i believe they don't "quit" the job. Cause in the end. If they have the mouse running below them. The pay cheque still comes. Why there's people saying that MLM are quick money. Or easy money. Because when you reach a certain level and you have a group of network down your line. The people will eventually start earning and some of the earning goes to you. Thats why they say it's earning easy money.
But you have any idea the time and money they put in before they reach that high? You think that the transport money, the food, the phone bills are cheap?
Plus, have you ever thought, why people want to join MLM. Because they know. if they work hard enough to build up a network of their own. They can start to relax alittle.
You try working for a company. You work like a shit dog and gets a few thousand back home. After 10 years and comapny boss says: " Hey pal, thanks for the support you gave me all these while. But i'm sad to say, you are too old to stay here. Please leave"
Do you see these MLM companies doing that? No. People who did get the people to support them. Join them. They earn big bucks. They think it's worth it. Then those who can't seems to wait for the ripe fruits to dropped walk away and start telling people that the trees there never drop a single fruits. It's just because you are seeing others picking up the ones that dropped at their side of the tree. IT'S luck for goodness sake. Can't you see? There are chances of earning money and hardwork to make. But what is most important is also the luck of finding the right people to support you in these line of work. There are people who keep having people banging their house door on their face. But they kept working and standing their ground.
Even they got flame by fuckers like you. They know that if they succeed, they are the winner. No matter how hard the road is. And you here? Hoping to walk in to the "big bucks" on a carpet pavement? No, the bigger the money seems to be. the harder the road is. So whats so "scamming" about these companies? They do not ask you to fork out a big sum to buy some shit. But more of asking you to be a customer. Whether you want to buy or not.
People like you who got convinced by them. Bought it in a "hot head", realise that you don't need it. Comes over here and start saying they are scam. So, i can say. Lots of girls can start saying that fashion shops are scam. They are cheating girls to buy clothes that doesn't even look good on them. Isn't it?
I don't even know why am i here typing all these. Maybe because i'm tired of seeing people who are spreading the words around saying that the grapes are sour, when they didn't even really taste it before.
Love,
Arily.
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if you want to know the pay cheque that SDMs are getting, just know that their highest pay cheque are only around 10k-20k if not slightly more only.Originally posted by believe?:came to know bout dis v interesting n informative forum jus recently!
but hey...it sure is disappointing to see threads coming in lesser! all bout dis co. n its distributors!
can anyone out there provide d %payout for OD,TD,CD,ED,DM & SDM respectively? i met up with an ex-distributor and he mentioned something bout the payout which did not deem fair regarding the mattress' sales. is the 1/3 & 2/3 PV still in the compensation plan?
cheers!
i do see some posts here that are written with high level of maturity and understanding of this industry or co.
based on this alone, even other mlm companies, without the help of celebrities like they said, can earn far more than what SDMs are earning.
and besides the other thing is their products
not very sellable in a sense, coz no repeat sales potential.
imagine you have a name list of 200 ppl for ppl age 25.
as soon as you call up all 200 ppl whom u have contact with, that means your market of clients are dry already.
a mattress can only be sold 1 time, it's not possible to sell again another time after 1 yr, so when you sell a mattress, you have to strike off a name out from your name list.
so is that a good product (flagship product of enyouth) to work and sell?
how long can you last selling that product?
the product is long lasting, but how long lasting are our market as in sales potential - less than 20% and the chance of them buying is even lower. -
ultimately the true mark of a long running MLM company can only be 3:Originally posted by arily:Seriously, I'm here typing my first reply. Is not to say whether enyouth is good or not. But more of. Why is everyone looking down at Network marketing.
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Love,
Arily.
PS: I might not reply. But i'll try =)
1) product loved by consumers (not distributor driven)
2) enduring philosophy of the company
3) Unique Selling Proposition
a lot has been said that products are delivered to the consumer direct without middle man.
so the savings on the distribution channel is reimbursed as rewards to the distributor and his network for his hard work.
theoretically a MLM product should not be more or less expensive than a product on the shelf of a supermart,
however, experience tells us that many MLM products, shampoo, soap, cosmetics, etc, are 2 to 3 times more expensive than found in retail stores.
the main reason is due to the compensation plan.
in order to pay for the many layers of distributors, and due to the exclusivity of the products (and therefore a restricted consumer base), the products are marked up inevitably.
this aspect really defeats the concept of MLM as a consumer-direct model of marketing.
it still works as a marketing method, but the products are much more expensive.
... unless the products are uniquely different, and no substitutes can be found, then it can command a premium.
... and if the MLM company is its own manufacturer, it would reduce cost of production (unless a OEM party is cheaper and more efficient, eg. in China), otherwise, licensing 3rd party products to sell will increase the cost of such products. -
I just visited Enyouth Website.
Their Scientific Advisory Board under their Enyouth Credentials section is rather interesting.
Dr. Jacques Lazar (PhD)
Just go to Columbia University Website and try to find this guy.
Dr. Jacques Lazar is currently serving as an Associate Professor of Pharmeceutics at Columbia University, USA.
I posed as a prospective research student and sent an email to Columbia University to enquire about this guy but they replied me that there is no such person in their University nor do this guy ever taught in their Univerity before.
Anyone from Enyouth care to explain about this?Dr. Andrew Ler (PhD) (DBA)
American Management Science Association??
Dr. Andrew Ler is currently a member of American Management Science Association.
This there such an organization?!
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Originally posted by arily:
PS... Have you tasted the grapes?? It may really be sour...
I don't even know why am i here typing all these. Maybe because i'm tired of seeing people who are spreading the words around saying that the grapes are sour, when they didn't even really taste it before.
Love,
Arily.
PS: I might not reply. But i'll try =)[/b]
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Woo good job muneo. In fact not only for this is fake but there are some other more...Originally posted by muneo:I just visited Enyouth Website.
Their Scientific Advisory Board under their Enyouth Credentials section is rather interesting.
American Management Science Association?? This there such an organization?!
Do all these people really exist at all?! -
So, i can say. Lots of girls can start saying that fashion shops are scam. They are cheating girls to buy clothes that doesn't even look good on them. Isn't it?[/b]
What has clothes got to do with multi-level marketing?
Besides, clothes are essential for us. But are stuffs like magnetic beds, water filters and etc really that important to us mah?