Heard of Enyouth?
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i dun think enyouth is cheating people... that my personal view of course... althrough i not really sure if their product really work....
i dun like the company because of the way it work.... the product is not really cheap u know... lowest product is some pills that cost $400+ and their main product is the matteress that cost $1500 for a single.... of which u only get like $1000 worth of profit.... which u only get 5% of it when u started..... 5% of 1000 = $50?? -
hahahaOriginally posted by NemY:eh how come no1 answering me about HOW enyouth cheats ppl?
1st enyouth reps claim they got ISO cert. then nobody wants to provide a cert number to be checked. that is how they cheat ppl. Enuf for u or not? -
No lar ENY never cheat okie...people join on their own free willOriginally posted by NemY:eh how come no1 answering me about HOW enyouth cheats ppl?
...no millionaire join them...how to cheat people's money correct?
For those people that left the company...its coz they are at the top and they know more things about the company and more about Raymond LIM and his wife and his way of doing things...then they leave...3rd batch of top earners that left the company liao...for all those still in the company with Raymond LIM...maybe u are the 4th batch...of coz u can be famous for the wrong reason..who heard of BK BH KN and so on until they left the company and caused a hoo ha...all the best to those who r still in ENY...
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yup...Originally posted by LostLov:=.= heng is so fierce.....
Boytoy work in there before?? -
so tell me more abt mr raymond lim?Originally posted by 2094_BD:No lar ENY never cheat okie...people join on their own free will ...no millionaire join them...how to cheat people's money correct?
For those people that left the company...its coz they are at the top and they know more things about the company and more about Raymond LIM and his wife and his way of doing things...then they leave...3rd batch of top earners that left the company liao...for all those still in the company with Raymond LIM...maybe u are the 4th batch...of coz u can be famous for the wrong reason..who heard of BK BH KN and so on until they left the company and caused a hoo ha...all the best to those who r still in ENY... -
work to the top.. and get the answer yourself!
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im not working dere. looks like no1 can really tell forget it lolz
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still no cert number. hahaha. what does this say about them?
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wow.... still noone reply u heng?? haha
One thing that puzzled me through.... they say that raymond lim have gone broke 3 times owning dunno how many million to the bank.... question is...... HOW THE HELL HE GET OUT OF THE HOLE??? i remember someone told me he and his wife gone bankrupt... since he is bankrupt.... how he own a business?? -
Which Raymond Lim u talking about? MagMag Raymond Lim or ENY Raymond Lim?Originally posted by NemY:im not working dere. looks like no1 can really tell forget it lolz -
ENY
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just a side track.... aren't they the same person??
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I not defending AMH or ENY but the truth is at certain time, the top guy did earn 5 fig. Certain time, is just that some agent over t up all the top guy, which only ppl like K.L,B.H, chia, cla----, soon. did hit 5 fig a few time. heard recently, that the boss wanted to create another hero by placing a lot of ppl under a SDM, using this method, definitly, that guy will have 5 fig lor.
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Raymond Lim, he is the same boss of astral mag holding n enyouth sg and a new mlm company call COSLAP behind boss. believe me or not ... :-)
the same marketing plan n even easier to hit the manager post, this guy is transfer his blood from AMH or ENY to a new company. AMH or ENY maybe a empty vessel for him. becareful guys in ENY, my frenz esp !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WARNNING!!!!
all frenz out there.
actually, there is no rite or wrong to be in ENY or AMH. all of us have a dream to be rich or frame or learn more things there. so don't blame others, the campany, the frenz there or wat ever. people fall then will only neo wat is hurts. as frenz, just a advice given ba. -
Raymond Lim is a BUSINESS MAN !!! he is a real business man, a business man must not put any feeling in the business, nor friends or anything.
MONEY IS THE MAIN !!!!! JUST REM THIS GUYS !!!!! JUST OPEN OUR EYE BIG BIG TO SEE, THE WORLD OUT THERE IS NOT AS SIMPLE AS WE SEE, ITS MORE COMPLEX THEN WE THINK !!!!! raymond lim is just a small one to u... -
precisely...just irritating the othersOriginally posted by LostLov:just a side track.... aren't they the same person??
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so wad he did other then opening more then 1 MLM coy?
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face the truth !!!guys... raymond lim is a businessman, a real tiger in business world... if he is so easy being kill or fall, he wouldn't be a tiger for so many years just for nothing...rite ??? he only be stronger n stronger each time.
its not a matter whether who is being cheat or who cheated who now. the world out there is unfriendly.wake up guys...
its not important whether the product problem or marketing plan problem or car achieve stuff. wat is the use to blame now ??? why not asking ourselves, what have we learn from this experience ??? how can we lto be stronger ???
from raymond's view, he is a real business man, he is not wrong nor rite from our point of view.
- product must mark up the price so tat the company can earn ofcourse.
- ISO n DSAS is a support the company of being stable ofcourse.
- car achieve is to attract more ppl to join ofcourse.
MLM a BUSINESS WORLD, not a playground. either u fail or success. -
....and you need to improve your english.Originally posted by photoshopcs:face the truth !!!guys... raymond lim is a businessman, a real tiger in business world... if he is so easy kill or fall, he wouldn't be a tiger for so many years just for nothing...rite ??? he only be stronger n stronger each time.
its not a matter whether who is being cheat or who cheated who now. the world out there is unfriendly.wake up guys...
its not important whether the product problem or marketing plan problem or car achieve stuff. wat is the use to blame now ??? why not asking ourselves, what have we learn from this experience ??? how can we learn to be stronger n stronger or open our two eye bigger ???
from raymond's view, he is a real business man, he is not wrong nor rite from our point of view.
- product must mark up the price so tat the company can earn ofcourse.
- ISO n DSAS is a support the company of being stable ofcourse.
- car achieve is to attract more ppl to join ofcourse.
MLM a BUSINESS WORLD, not a playground. either u fail or success. -
haha... thanx dude... me think n type at the same time. kind of broken i neo. wahaha...
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sorry for coming back and replying so late. Pretty bz recently.
Heng, u wan ISO cert, go get it from carpenter Street company 5th floor and stop bugging us acting like an idiot. Comments are free anyway, I can always claim to be CEO of SIA here, who knows, who cares.
Since no1 here, after so much of flaming can give concrete evidence of ENY scamming or cheating people, I suppose that would be just plain empty talk. Unless some1 can prove me wrong otherwise.
Yes many people have left, they left not because the company cheats people isn't it? They left because they personally don't like how the company works? Weak, how often do U see people doing things that they like? They earned a huge sum, realised they don't like doing it or tink they are too good for tis job now hence they leave? Presumption of reasons why they leave and not coz of company cheat people
Furthermore, there are people ard who can prove the claimed 5-figure income, what makes you tink they are cheating? U CANT DO IT DOESNT MEAN OTHERS CANT! Don be a fugger. 1 word for people who cant do it and claim them cheating (and u noe it urself), WEAK. For those who have done it and still decided to leave, I respect you for ur preservance in company although I have no idea why u choose to leave.
Last but not least, Hi there NEMY and catbyte.
A word of advice for people ard, in this world, when there are good people, there will be bad people as there will be comparison. As such, when there are people who can make it, there will be those who don't. No way am i implying it's easy, nth is free in tis world anyway, but there are people who did. I believe most of the people here are those whu don't make it I still wan to highlight this phrase, "Comments are free!"
Thanks and sorry for long post again^^ Writing's my hobby lol -
oh i don't want or need it. its for u guys to convince people u're not cheats,. i myself would only be too happy for u to provide nothing and prove that u are all cheats. So no cert? Not my problem. The willing gets hooked. The rest can see what the truth is.Originally posted by dranoel:sorry for coming back and replying so late. Pretty bz recently.
Heng, u wan ISO cert, go get it from carpenter Street company 5th floor and stop bugging us acting like an idiot. Comments are free anyway, I can always claim to be CEO of SIA here, who knows, who cares.
Since no1 here, after so much of flaming can give concrete evidence of ENY scamming or cheating people, I suppose that would be just plain empty talk. Unless some1 can prove me wrong otherwise.
Yes many people have left, they left not because the company cheats people isn't it? They left because they personally don't like how the company works? Weak, how often do U see people doing things that they like? They earned a huge sum, realised they don't like doing it or tink they are too good for tis job now hence they leave? Presumption of reasons why they leave and not coz of company cheat people
Furthermore, there are people ard who can prove the claimed 5-figure income, what makes you tink they are cheating? U CANT DO IT DOESNT MEAN OTHERS CANT! Don be a fugger. 1 word for people who cant do it and claim them cheating (and u noe it urself), WEAK. For those who have done it and still decided to leave, I respect you for ur preservance in company although I have no idea why u choose to leave.
Last but not least, Hi there NEMY and catbyte.
A word of advice for people ard, in this world, when there are good people, there will be bad people as there will be comparison. As such, when there are people who can make it, there will be those who don't. No way am i implying it's easy, nth is free in tis world anyway, but there are people who did. I believe most of the people here are those whu don't make it I still wan to highlight this phrase, "Comments are free!"
Thanks and sorry for long post again^^ Writing's my hobby lol
the empty talk so far is all coming from the mlmers. when they have to provide something as simple as a cert number, nobody can come up with anything. if this ain't empty talk, then what is? ladies n gents, there u have it. 'nuff said. and if u want to say something, i suggest it better be intelligent instead of more empty claims. -
SEriously, U are like a lawyer trying to prove that the accused is not guilty and telling the judge, If U so interested to noe y he is not guilty, go get the evidences urself -.-""Originally posted by HENG@:oh i don't want or need it. its for u guys to convince people u're not cheats,. i myself would only be too happy for u to provide nothing and prove that u are all cheats. So no cert? Not my problem. The willing gets hooked. The rest can see what the truth is.
the empty talk so far is all coming from the mlmers. when they have to provide something as simple as a cert number, nobody can come up with anything. if this ain't empty talk, then what is? ladies n gents, there u have it. 'nuff said. and if u want to say something, i suggest it better be intelligent instead of more empty claims.
U stated u urself would not be too happy to provide nth, is tat the reason or izit becoz U cant prove anything? No cert? den lemme gif u a way out. Call 999 now report the cert at lv5 is fake. Tat should be enuff to get Raymond Lim into lots of years in jail? But pls lemme remind u, making fake reports in singapore is an offence as well
talking about empty claims, have u seen the cert? have u checked the cert? If not, then y are u saying the cert is 100% fake? By ur own instincts? Haha, and btw, U're not very much of being "intelligent" to me -
because u are selling something to us and its up to you to convince us, not for us to help u convince ourselves.Originally posted by dranoel:SEriously, U are like a lawyer trying to prove that the accused is not guilty and telling the judge, If U so interested to noe y he is not guilty, go get the evidences urself -.-""
U stated u urself would not be too happy to provide nth, is tat the reason or izit becoz U cant prove anything? No cert? den lemme gif u a way out. Call 999 now report the cert at lv5 is fake. Tat should be enuff to get Raymond Lim into lots of years in jail? But pls lemme remind u, making fake reports in singapore is an offence as well
talking about empty claims, have u seen the cert? have u checked the cert? If not, then y are u saying the cert is 100% fake? By ur own instincts? Haha, and btw, U're not very much of being "intelligent" to me
and i said i would be happy that YOU provide nothing because it only proves u're cheats. sure u can say u have a cert but i can also say i have a excecutive jet sitting in a private hanger in changi airport. u can't say im lying, because, in your own words, have u seen the plane? have u checked the plane? if not, can u say the plane is 100% fake? duh. its easy to claim u have something. the hard part is in proving it. if u can't understand that simple logic, im can say 2 things. im glad im not "intelligent" to u because only stupid people will seem "intelligent" to stupid people, and on an absolute scale of human intelligence, u're definately considered "dense".
by the way, in this case im not the lawyer. neither are other people u're trying to convince. we are the judge and its up to YOU to convince us. that u can think we're the lawyer for this analogy shows how mistaken and deluded you are.
still don't get it? then don't bother to argue. because u are sounding dumber and dumber. unfortunately that seems to be the way most people who do mlm are isn't it? -
... cannot stand mlm. boast themselves to the skies and refuse to see their own errs.. like kana brainwash like dat. anyways.. amh's iso cert num is 651186.
