Heard of Enyouth?
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KP la... It's my life and my time and I can do wadever I like. It's not as if I'm as boliao as a certain rival MLMer who REALLY did REAL research on EY's products. I only spent a total of 10 mins on tt.Originally posted by qwedsaqwedsa:"Tricoslan u mean? I had a hard time researching, u noe... Pls provide proper spelling..."
lame, hard time researching. haha, for wat man. prove your point got trophy ah? u win lor. Clap#
I din even talk much abt it. Neither did I prove any pt on it. Fer tt matter, pls refer to the certain rival MLMer, not me pls. Learn to read to properly and dun anyhow shoot arrow pls. And furthermore, I juz wanted to be more aware of the latest happenings so I wun be conned into buying EY's dubious products.
Btw, we're all here stating our personal experiences wif MLM, so I dun see why not it's unfactual, if it REALLY happened to us. And I only spend 15 mins of my time every alternate day to update myself in tis forum, so I dun see much time being wasted.
And thx alot fer ur concern, but I haf a target fer my life as well. I'm currently pursuing my degree in order get a STABLE and ETHICAL job, revolving around my PASSION and TALENT, in 3 yrs time.
Damn, I hate random trolling MLMers. Set up forum acct juz to say a few steoreotypical brainless insults.
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hey mf, ppl here are trying to expose scams and ur just being such an asshole commenting liddis.Originally posted by qwedsaqwedsa:You guys really got time man, spreading negative and stating unfactual stuffs here, got time go and make a living and feed your family, dun waste time here and try to make other ppl's life as miserable as yours. At least they have a goal and target for their life unlike you guys man..... bo liao. still the same after so long.
i myself have encountered those scammers and liars at ENYOUTH. they have a goal? target? via unethical means? WAD A SHAME. -
U more bo liao..Originally posted by qwedsaqwedsa:You guys really got time man, spreading negative and stating unfactual stuffs here, got time go and make a living and feed your family, dun waste time here and try to make other ppl's life as miserable as yours. At least they have a goal and target for their life unlike you guys man..... bo liao. still the same after so long.
sign in a NEW account just to make just useless comment...
so bo liao..
by the way... i have a job, and have money to feed my family..
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maybe 5mins nt enough for them.... make 1 hr better.Originally posted by MightyFlameboy:Damn, I hate random trolling MLMers. Set up forum acct juz to say a few steoreotypical brainless insults. 
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FucktardOriginally posted by qwedsaqwedsa:You guys really got time man, spreading negative and stating unfactual stuffs here, got time go and make a living and feed your family, dun waste time here and try to make other ppl's life as miserable as yours. At least they have a goal and target for their life unlike you guys man..... bo liao. still the same after so long. -
i am anti-mlm
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heya all, i hardly post on sgforums. but i just wanted to share my experience on this enyouth thing. this event happened a couple of months back.
months back i received some email to go for a job interview at carpenter street. i know how stupid this sounds, because i just got out fresh from army at 20 years of age with no job experience. anyway i replied to the email and thereafter was told to go to carpenter street and meet at some torn down building. prior to that, i did not know what the name of the company was, nor what it dealt with. i just merely followed blindly probably with inaccurate instincts.
i was brought upstairs by a man around 24-26 years old. once out of the lift, we took a walk around the area, the man briefly described to me his company's products and the famous celebrities that marketed the products -thing was i wasn't that interested in any of that, but more interested in what the job entailed, how much it paid and so on. i only got to know about this shit mlm thing 2 hours later, because they were going on so mucha bout selling thigns and selling thigns, even emphasising that they weren't mlm to start with, but SLM (single level marketing), which is utter bullshit.
i remembered entering the building at around 5pm. at 7 pm after listening to the whole load of crap they were going on and on about, i still wasn't prepared to join something that didn't give me enough information of what i wanted to hear. nope, i wasn't prepared to sign whatever membership form that was free of charge, nor prepared to purchase anything that cost 1000 bucks that i didn't even know about. these few gentlemen surrounded me and proceeded to 'hardsell' tactics to get me to feel demoralised and threatened, eventually wanting me to buy. i once tried to stood up, but this loser decided to insult me by telling me how cowardly i was needing to think twice about purchasing that whaver product, or even joining them in their 'sales adventure' i thought that was the final straw. i was utterly pissed, and hungry- it was dinner time. i had neither food nor water anyway.
what i wanna say from this is, first and foremost, if ENYOUTH isn't an MLM that uses HARDSELLING PRESSURE SELLING TACTICS, then WHAT? i'm so sure i'm not the first person complaining about them.
secondly, if ENYOUTH isn't an MLM? surely they must be a company legally registered in singapore?? and if they are, WHAT EXACTLY did they state they'd be doing in their legal documents??
next, what on earth are these bunch of lackeys of ENYOUTH doing? certainly ill disciplined and ill natured, but i shall go no further than that- i'm sure people who've had such an experience before know what i'm talking about. guys, this isn't anywhere near a plesant experience.
i know there're you bunch of enyouth people on this forum, trying damn bloody hard to defend your insignia, and your loyalty towards. but the fact is there're thousands of people out there, who've gotten to know of this stupid little trick from enyouth.
i certainly will never forget this frightful experience and will remind my peers, friends and family constantly to never be so naive like i was previously. this enyouth thing must stop now. -
enyouth seriously sucks big time.Originally posted by brianish:heya all, i hardly post on sgforums. but i just wanted to share my experience on this enyouth thing. this event happened a couple of months back.
months back i received some email to go for a job interview at carpenter street. i know how stupid this sounds, because i just got out fresh from army at 20 years of age with no job experience. anyway i replied to the email and thereafter was told to go to carpenter street and meet at some torn down building. prior to that, i did not know what the name of the company was, nor what it dealt with. i just merely followed blindly probably with inaccurate instincts.
i was brought upstairs by a man around 24-26 years old. once out of the lift, we took a walk around the area, the man briefly described to me his company's products and the famous celebrities that marketed the products -thing was i wasn't that interested in any of that, but more interested in what the job entailed, how much it paid and so on. i only got to know about this shit mlm thing 2 hours later, because they were going on so mucha bout selling thigns and selling thigns, even emphasising that they weren't mlm to start with, but SLM (single level marketing), which is utter bullshit.
i remembered entering the building at around 5pm. at 7 pm after listening to the whole load of crap they were going on and on about, i still wasn't prepared to join something that didn't give me enough information of what i wanted to hear. nope, i wasn't prepared to sign whatever membership form that was free of charge, nor prepared to purchase anything that cost 1000 bucks that i didn't even know about. these few gentlemen surrounded me and proceeded to 'hardsell' tactics to get me to feel demoralised and threatened, eventually wanting me to buy. i once tried to stood up, but this loser decided to insult me by telling me how cowardly i was needing to think twice about purchasing that whaver product, or even joining them in their 'sales adventure' i thought that was the final straw. i was utterly pissed, and hungry- it was dinner time. i had neither food nor water anyway.
what i wanna say from this is, first and foremost, if ENYOUTH isn't an MLM that uses HARDSELLING PRESSURE SELLING TACTICS, then WHAT? i'm so sure i'm not the first person complaining about them.
secondly, if ENYOUTH isn't an MLM? surely they must be a company legally registered in singapore?? and if they are, WHAT EXACTLY did they state they'd be doing in their legal documents??
next, what on earth are these bunch of lackeys of ENYOUTH doing? certainly ill disciplined and ill natured, but i shall go no further than that- i'm sure people who've had such an experience before know what i'm talking about. guys, this isn't anywhere near a plesant experience.
i know there're you bunch of enyouth people on this forum, trying damn bloody hard to defend your insignia, and your loyalty towards. but the fact is there're thousands of people out there, who've gotten to know of this stupid little trick from enyouth.
i certainly will never forget this frightful experience and will remind my peers, friends and family constantly to never be so naive like i was previously. this enyouth thing must stop now.
They resort to cheating, tricking people down to seminars. Demoralising ppl, etc. Say mlm is the only way to riches, etc. Despos -
Wow, u got it worse than me. Going to Enyouth's office and got grounded for 2 straight hours. To top it off, they were going hard on u fer the last few moments.
Bro, at least u learnt ur lesson, so u'll be able to discern properly the nxt time sth like tis happens again. I used to be in the same situation. Fresh out of army without prior working experience, and suddenly I got a call out of nowhere frm an MLM company, promising a stable job. Wad a load of bullcrap.
I didn't resist much the first encounter wif MLM cos' I was naive and under-informed abt such businesses. I didn't resist much the 2nd encounter wif Enyouth cos' my fren was involved oso. But fer sure, if I kena a 3rd time, I swear tt I'm gonna fark them upside down.
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Well I got tricked by one of them.Originally posted by MightyFlameboy:Wow, u got it worse than me. Going to Enyouth's office and got grounded for 2 straight hours. To top it off, they were going hard on u fer the last few moments.
Bro, at least u learnt ur lesson, so u'll be able to discern properly the nxt time sth like tis happens again. I used to be in the same situation. Fresh out of army without prior working experience, and suddenly I got a call out of nowhere frm an MLM company, promising a stable job. Wad a load of bullcrap.
I didn't resist much the first encounter wif MLM cos' I was naive and under-informed abt such businesses. I didn't resist much the 2nd encounter wif Enyouth cos' my fren was involved oso. But fer sure, if I kena a 3rd time, I swear tt I'm gonna fark them upside down.
No questions asked.
Suddenly added me on frenster say what wanna intro fren to me, etc. Say go seminar support friend. Then keep on hiding what the corp is doing. Then she was 1/2 hrs late meeting me. Finally I was there, people kept on asking "did she tell u what this is?". Then I got suspicious and turned my antisocial and stubborn mode on.
Now no one can sway me into mlm. So I tahaned thru the stupid "seminar" for 2 hrs. Really opened my eyes. Crazy cheering, shouting, idolisation of seniors ad the company, like a cult. So I gave ther the slip after 2 hrs.
Then she came online msn and started to F me, say she's gonna retire early, say that my future is worthless, etc. Some msn arguement. Despos and sickos. -
what happen to EY now??
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wonder how they are doing now. I'm still in touch with some people I know there who have left but some are still there...doubt anyone of them who wants to contact me from there would be sincere due to the fact of the business as I was part of them too.
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The cult havent collapse?Originally posted by djugashvili:wonder how they are doing now. I'm still in touch with some people I know there who have left but some are still there...doubt anyone of them who wants to contact me from there would be sincere due to the fact of the business as I was part of them too.
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Originally posted by MightyFlameboy:
diao.i researching becos of some thing lar
KP la... It's my life and my time and I can do wadever I like. [b]It's not as if I'm as boliao as a certain rival MLMer who REALLY did REAL research on EY's products. I only spent a total of 10 mins on tt.
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hmm nv expected my post to generate so many replies (after my 'friend' tricked me into going for that dumb seminar), nor did i expect enyouth to still be up and going about their shady business. But it still looks like many pple still take the usual stand of being anti-mlm, personally i don't like their marketing tactics nor the way the pple behave when trying to get you into their company.
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yea I agree with you Grim...it's really fake...after the group dissolves, all the "friendship" disperse like monkeys from a fallen tree; except for a few genuine friendship which I still keep with a few of them.
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i seriously dun encourage to join. i was trick there n forced to take the product which they claims haf use for alot illness. they were also veri confident say that they would gladly refund the money if pdt got no effect which really has no effect at all.. instead my dad condition got worse. went back to confront n they insist the pdt is good. when i say abt the refund thing, they just refer me to top management n ask me down to company n explain the full detail. i said i will bring my sis along n they were like damn shock, kept asking me not to bring my sis. fishy there? they were trying to influence me again. of cos i wont go down office. i chose a cafe instead. n yup.. Enyouth has breached the law of DSAS. 2 laws to b exact n there is no nid to pay for the DSAS. guess is just the company wan to recover the cost of printing the stuff all these. Enyouth has no ethics at all.. DUN TRUST THEM. i m writing a letter to their top management n see wad reply they gif.
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aiya stop it la.. EY Sux la.. use unethnical method to trick ppl down n waste other ppl time. FORCING PPL to take the pdt. STILL SAY TILL SO NICE WAN TO HELP US SUCCEED. YA SUCCEED IN BEING A LIAR AND SCAMMER. LOSING FRENS N RELATIVES. ONLI BRAINLESS PPL WILL BELIEVE.. ACTUALLY ALL IN THEIR MIND IS NOT TO HELP US SUCCEED. IS TO HELP THEM ACHIEVE THEIR AIM, EARN MONEY N HELP THEM PROMOTE. TRUE??Originally posted by brokenluv:hey mf, ppl here are trying to expose scams and ur just being such an asshole commenting liddis.
i myself have encountered those scammers and liars at ENYOUTH. they have a goal? target? via unethical means? WAD A SHAME. -
Did EY ppl say that its an opportunity????
If they really did... then they are really crazy.... Magnetic Therapy started from 1980 guess who started it???? James Phang.... Quality is almost same everywhere..... Stocks come in from CHINA and they buy in Bulk... No adverts, No Endorsement, No Retail Partners, Products Overpriced, Hard Selling and Pressurized Selling, Company CULTure.... MLM is famous for Hit ONCE but Hit HARD.... (NOT ALL)
Magnetic Bedpad: $2300 Plus / Minus
Cost: $500Plus/Minus
Max Payout 50% (which is almost IMPOSSIBLE)
Profit Gains for Company is Approx 400%
Balance 350% (Not accounted for)
Simple Calculations unless its proven that Company uses such funds and Engage in ABOVE THE LINE ADVERTS, ENDORSEMENT, RETAIL PARTNERS and such.... Else its really not feasible that company still need to rent cars for "CAR ACHIEVERS"
Hanging ard at the coffeeshop will never make a company successful, pls go and get a proper office and do it with PRIDE. In EY with the same teaching, BF/GF casual sex partners and ONS are so common and not in the discreet manner... its like SDU... The BOSS himself got caught humping a gal executive in OFFICE got caught on CCTV by wife so now the wife abandon him and therefore he is in shit(INSIDE INFO). Beat up LIM BOON HONG in public.... U are who u mix wif.... when u wanna be successful u must be with someone of standard and with capabilities and not those who HUMP ard with own ppl or beat ppl up....
OPPORTUNITY??? Magnetic Therapy in Mkt since 1980.... 27yrs already??? where got KANGTAO still?????
IN MLM important points to note or consider before embarking on a new journey.......
Product got MARKET or not???
Company Creditbility and Reliabilty (Background)
Awarness/Marketing/Advertising campaign good or not???
Celebrity/Medical Endorsement???
Big Group MNC Retail Partners???
Mediocre Prices and affordable with results proven and cheaper by buying direct.
Company Admin/Logistic Support???
People you working with???
Pioneering Stage with FACTS or Pioneering stage by talking...(some company after 5 yrs still pionnering....
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Public Events, Roadshows
No Pressurising Tactics nor insult to parents or watsoever
If any company can fulfil such conditions... Its worth a try
Personally i will never try company that is SHOUTING CRYING AND RIDCULOUS CULTure type.... PIONEERING FOR THE PAST DECADE, Company full of DYED HAIR SCHOOL DROPOUTS, OR BEST GALS EXECUTIVE SHOWING BRA AND BREAST TO ALL PPL IN THE COMPANY.
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after so much talk... EY still sux...
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they certainly are.
just stay away from them man...I'm still in contact with one of them but she said meet up for coffee, "no sales talk" but I think she'll still try to psycho me to join them. -
They seem to be still not dieing yet, i was being tricked to go that place today and saw the whole office and the coffee(still at carpenter street) downstairs flooded with ppl. And the road there have become their car show room.
I was introduced their company product, then went to a small meeting room with a group of ppl like me inside.
After that, their so call duno what manger(ah wee?) will come and tok until even pig can fly. i machiam taking a lecture on MLM structure. reaching near the end of the lecture, the lecturer told us not to tell others about what he had said(suspicious) and gave us some excuses for it.
after finish tt tok, they still bug me to join Zzz. And my so call caretaker try to convince me. after he had fail, he called someone more tokkong in toking 1 trying to convince me, bla bla bla toking the same thing.
In the end nv join.
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What did they tell you not to say?Originally posted by getintogroove:They seem to be still not dieing yet, i was being tricked to go that place today and saw the whole office and the coffee(still at carpenter street) downstairs flooded with ppl. And the road there have become their car show room.
I was introduced their company product, then went to a small meeting room with a group of ppl like me inside.
After that, their so call duno what manger(ah wee?) will come and tok until even pig can fly. i machiam taking a lecture on MLM structure. reaching near the end of the lecture, the lecturer told us not to tell others about what he had said(suspicious) and gave us some excuses for it.
after finish tt tok, they still bug me to join Zzz. And my so call caretaker try to convince me. after he had fail, he called someone more tokkong in toking 1 trying to convince me, bla bla bla toking the same thing.
In the end nv join.
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Enyouth has some new recruitment tactics now. They post jobs and recruitments advertisments online to attract people to make enquiries. Then they will contact you for an interview (which is claimed to be informal) at their office. But before that, there's the usual dinner trick (which may or may not be at the coffee shop) to make you think EY is a company with very friendly corporate culture blah blah.
From my own experience, I would say that EY presenters lack of basic presentation skills. Probably because they do it too many times, the pace of the presentation is too fast. The system sounded to complicated and confusing to me (maybe this is their purpose). The presenter I encountered cracked many jokes which are not funny at all.
They need a lot of training because I could tell that others at the presentation were also not convinced.
The company makes me feel very confident of myself because I am better educated than most of their so-called managers. They don't even sound better than those student leaders from my secondary school. Maybe I am being to mean, but if you don't want to waste the money you spent on your education, don't join kids' company.
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hi guys,
jus to add my experience with enyouth here, i would like to add wad i have encountered.
first of all, my fren (we have usually been in contact) called me told me there is tis place with nice food she noes of and wants me to join her for lunch there. And the location venue was : clarke quay. i was like erm clarke quay gort nice food meh n sorts. so when i reach the place she told me another fren of hers will be joinin for lunch n guess wad she brought me to their famous coffeeshop gathering place. her fren was pretty much very late n i gort to wait for her when i gort other plans instead. when she came down den she started to share wads her company n wad they do n hw ez it is to get to the top position. (she nv talked abt the products). then she keep asking me to go up to their office, but thank god i nv went up). tis fren of mine was like showing me the BMs her managers gort n they like gort the $ to keep changing their cars n so forth. >> end of meeting 1
so out of my curiosity on wad my tis fren's new job is ( after knowing she is in MLM n MLM is so much infamous), i met the same manager as of meeting 1 cos she say she want to share hw one can werk thru successfully on enyouth ( she made me went down to clarke quay again but again she is late ). when se reach she decided not to tell me anything but jus plain chit chat ( so basically i went down n got no info out of them but she still tells me to join). >>> end of meeting 2
den my fren arranged for another meeting at the same place again ( tis time round she brought another manager ) then she roughly told me a few of the products they had n even tell me that their magnetic therapy beddie stuff is proven to useful n backed up by NUS. guess wad, as dealing wif materials macroscopically n microscopically is one of my forte, the report they showed me was 1. nothing conclusive, 2. they removed the SEM pictures which was the most important details of the report 3. report was of shoddy quality, the kind where undergrads could write.
the manager also refused to let me leave, unless i joined their association. n suggested me to buy some products home to try ( n i didnt) n they made me late for my other appointment <<< end of meeting 3
then after tt my fren ask me to get the starter kit from her on one fine evening n meet for dinner n share some stuff with me ( i tot wad n she made me go down to clarke quay again) tis time round i brought my gf along since after tt we planned to go somewhere else. when we got there i saw one big group of her associates n they jus plainly chat n leave. neither did i get my starter kit nor get any sharing frm them <<<< end of meeting 4
then another new deal came she tell me she will be goin up stage to collect a prize at tis event ( from the co) n wants me to go see her get her prize n pass me my kit. when i went there i wasted one entire nite, n she nv gort any prize , n she nv bring my kit <<<<<<, end of meeting 5
then on the way i found out she thrown in thousands of dollars in their product n i also found out her manager keep making her ask me to take product. then she made me go down another time for my kit again, n i brought my gf down again ( obviously they dun wan to tell me more abt their product or werk schedule n secrets to their work). when they saw us her manager said she din bring my stuffie down ( n made me go down empty) <<<<<<< end of meeting 6
she brought the kit down finally (late again) n nv share any stuff as she promised n of cos the kit had no product details in it <<<<< end of meeting 7
finally my fren ask me to go down again to share stuff wif me ( i decided not to turn up, most probably its another useless meeting, cos my OWN FREN has been telling tales to her manager abt me).
points to make: 1) attitude of the managers >> are they even selling products when the very first tink ppl wanting to sell their products will hope that every one noes their prdt by word of mouth n etc n gain interest in them.
2) sharing of company details n stuff ( until now i noe nuts abt their point of their company)
3)hw come get a kit need to go down so many times. jus pass me the stuff will die issit? (they made me pay 50 bucks n they are so reluctant to gimee anything>> did the mangers pocket the $ since dsas no nid to pay de?)
4)they nv gimme the actualli product infos n etc, how do they expect me to sell? ( n of cos their main point is to get me to buy, but i dun even noe wad they haf in all, den hw to buy?)
last point: they just made me see wad kinda fren i gort.
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