Heard of Enyouth?
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wow lao.. they go til so low to cheap u for $50 dollar ah??
think Ey can said bye bye to ppl soon -
Enyouth teaches agents to trick people down to the office or wadever seminar, company event and get the upline to psycho u to join.Originally posted by spycampers:wow lao.. they go til so low to cheap u for $50 dollar ah??
think Ey can said bye bye to ppl soon -
just to sidetrack a little: anyone has any comments about WBG?
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ya they pretty much just tell me to go down for lunch and the location will be at clarke quay area.
then when u reach then they will say another fren is joining for lunch etc. then it turns out to be the upline or what~
i've personally gotten con to go down and i would say their plans are pretty stupid.
their manager even told me not to tell anyone i m doing enyouth sales until i have reach a certain level ( tts if i ever joined) n when they ask to meet me i cannot bring my frens n blah blah.
some how they dun make any sense. they are like opening a coffeeshop, but only allow 1 customer to go in at a time. >> sorta selling but they dun wan customers. apparently sales to the common folks is not their main stream income from the look of it. maybe the sales to their own downlines is their main source of income? >> can some one share about this?
catnmousegame -
i almost got conned into doing this
then i heard i had to fork out $53 for some starter kit bullcrap
and then i decided there was no way i would do such a retarded thing.
anyway, any of our profits would still go to the upline people
still got what OD, CD, TD simi lanjiao D all have one...wtf -
oh they took my $50 n held the starter kit from october till end of dec. somehw they dun seem to have the motive to even give me the starter kit. make me go down many times to get it, but i din get any. until the last time i gort very pissed i showed my face~
catnmousegame -
And so what excuse did the give?Originally posted by catnmousegame:oh they took my $50 n held the starter kit from october till end of dec. somehw they dun seem to have the motive to even give me the starter kit. make me go down many times to get it, but i din get any. until the last time i gort very pissed i showed my face~
catnmousegame
Astral Mag is crap... even when they change name to EY, it's nothing but a typical cult MLM, hiding their identity as MLM til last minute, they resort to using trickery to trick people to their seminars and offices. -
typical reply : forget to bring.
then they always tell me to go down collect den i go wif my fren together. then when they saw my fren n me together den my fren will gimme a black face den keep making phone calls. after that the manager will come down n say that she forget to bring down the kit.
more like they gort some other plans up the sleeves then cos they see i brought someone then change plans.
they keep everything so secret that we thought that 1) there is no kit at all or 2)they ate the $ or 3) want me to go down alone and pressure me to buy something (but i always bring my fren so i will nv be alone)
catnmousegame -
if they pressure you, than why not divert the pressure to me.Originally posted by catnmousegame:typical reply : forget to bring.
then they always tell me to go down collect den i go wif my fren together. then when they saw my fren n me together den my fren will gimme a black face den keep making phone calls. after that the manager will come down n say that she forget to bring down the kit.
more like they gort some other plans up the sleeves then cos they see i brought someone then change plans.
they keep everything so secret that we thought that 1) there is no kit at all or 2)they ate the $ or 3) want me to go down alone and pressure me to buy something (but i always bring my fren so i will nv be alone)
catnmousegame
or i go down with you.
see what tricks they can come up with since they only know simple tricks to trick those newbies who knows little.
if you need any advice or to go down to the company with somebpdy who u think can help decline/reject their offer.
Just let me know. -
i knew wad they were doing thats y everytime i bring my fren wif me. then they always last min change plans n etc.
n by the way i told my that fren off and tell her that we are both wasting time. n i told her i'm not goin down anymore cos i'm goin to waste my time anyway.
some hw it werked, i haven been getting calls frm her since then.
thx everyone =)
catnmousegame -
the only tink i regret would be not being able to convince my fren she is wasting time and $ investing on wad she is doing rite nw
catnmousegame -
if you think you can't, then i'll go down with you and we can discuss together.Originally posted by catnmousegame:the only tink i regret would be not being able to convince my fren she is wasting time and $ investing on wad she is doing rite nw
catnmousegame
it's not difficult to convince.
but you can't go ur way.
if you want to have no regrets.
perhaps just try one more time. i'll see how i can help if you need it. just let me know. -
What excuse did the friend give?Originally posted by catnmousegame:the only tink i regret would be not being able to convince my fren she is wasting time and $ investing on wad she is doing rite nw
catnmousegame -
fren always say she forget to bring the kit.
then on the way keep asking me to go buy product.
then the most recent one was a planning session with the manager - which consisted listing my potential market ( which i already noe)
- no product training
- presentation skills ( wth)
- n follow their sales conduct ( means buy their product n try, try liao go tell ur fren , then intro to them) >> i cant do my method of sales ( when i a sales personel in the first place), neither can i do my own marketing. blah blah
my fren ( the one trying to pull me into their sales team) bought quite a few products (ie bed stuff , 2 watches, their slimming product n etc) then say is very useful ( but i dun see any change in her at all).
i have told her many times abt it but apparently she went to tell her managers n stuff about it also. so warnings turn on deaf ears, n i tink she is still buying products right now. she seems to treat the bunch of ppl there as good frens ( but the managers doesnt seem so to me n oso my fren that went down with me).
so maybe she realli nid to try n i hope that she doesnt get into trouble n all. after all she aint that well off at the moment. i tink she shld be old enuff to tink herself (somemore she is nt realli that young compared to the bunch of ppl ive met over there.)
catnmousegame
*hope i get my peace of mind after tis*
roars -
So they make agents give a list of contacts to EY?Originally posted by catnmousegame:fren always say she forget to bring the kit.
then on the way keep asking me to go buy product.
then the most recent one was a planning session with the manager - which consisted listing my potential market ( which i already noe)
- no product training
- presentation skills ( wth)
- n follow their sales conduct ( means buy their product n try, try liao go tell ur fren , then intro to them) >> i cant do my method of sales ( when i a sales personel in the first place), neither can i do my own marketing. blah blah
my fren ( the one trying to pull me into their sales team) bought quite a few products (ie bed stuff , 2 watches, their slimming product n etc) then say is very useful ( but i dun see any change in her at all).
i have told her many times abt it but apparently she went to tell her managers n stuff about it also. so warnings turn on deaf ears, n i tink she is still buying products right now. she seems to treat the bunch of ppl there as good frens ( but the managers doesnt seem so to me n oso my fren that went down with me).
so maybe she realli nid to try n i hope that she doesnt get into trouble n all. after all she aint that well off at the moment. i tink she shld be old enuff to tink herself (somemore she is nt realli that young compared to the bunch of ppl ive met over there.)
catnmousegame
*hope i get my peace of mind after tis*
roars
EY is very brainwashing, like a cult, tricking people into highly charged seminars.
"start your own biz"
"u can never be rich working, u can only get rich by starting own business"
"EY had changed my life"
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they haf some werksheets to figure out wad ur contacts are n stuff.
i forced tt fren to tell me wad the meeting was abt then i din turn up.
so neither i shared my netwerk of ppl, nor go down n let the other manager pressure me.
she made me meet two managers already n both of them wasnt successful in pressure closing me. the last meeting she arranged for another person. i got very pissed with all the empty trips, i told her. n i wasnt very happy that she con me to go down collect the kit, when actualli they gort something else arranged n nv told me.
i would describe them as secretive at that point of time. they are afraid that people will noe their system. they hide everything under wraps. they dun like me to bring more frens to go down. when they claim that they are doin sales, they behave like secret agents. i have no idea hw they are making their sales other than gettin their own ppl to buy.
as mention b4 above, they always tell me not to bring any one else down together when meeting or etc. it seriously doesnt make sense if they are doin a sale in tis manner. >>> no open market sale?
catnmousegame -
They trick people down to office/seminars, keeping their true identity as MLM company a secret until the last minute. Very sly and inethical thing. I've had 5 people approach me "do u know what u're here for?" when i was tricked down. So I confronted them, they'll always just walk away or say "u'll know later". This "business" method is a shame to the corporate sales world. Enyouth deserves its current reputation as a trickery company.Originally posted by catnmousegame:they haf some werksheets to figure out wad ur contacts are n stuff.
i forced tt fren to tell me wad the meeting was abt then i din turn up.
so neither i shared my netwerk of ppl, nor go down n let the other manager pressure me.
she made me meet two managers already n both of them wasnt successful in pressure closing me. the last meeting she arranged for another person. i got very pissed with all the empty trips, i told her. n i wasnt very happy that she con me to go down collect the kit, when actualli they gort something else arranged n nv told me.
i would describe them as secretive at that point of time. they are afraid that people will noe their system. they hide everything under wraps. they dun like me to bring more frens to go down. when they claim that they are doin sales, they behave like secret agents. i have no idea hw they are making their sales other than gettin their own ppl to buy.
as mention b4 above, they always tell me not to bring any one else down together when meeting or etc. it seriously doesnt make sense if they are doin a sale in tis manner. >>> no open market sale?
catnmousegame -
oh yar,
they were trying to sell me some motivational sales talk in malaysia. they din succeed too. i had too many of them already.
LOL
catnmousegame -
n beware
the claim they say nus had a report on them claiming that their mattress is good.
that one is not true.
the report only stated that the magnets in the sample they gave was ok. however they removed the SEM micrographs and all so it renders the paper unconclusive.
laymans beware.
catnmousegame -
Motivational until like a cult. Everything the seniors say the auditorium would erupt in cheers, "yes!!!" "dui!!!" screaming and shouting. Scary.Originally posted by catnmousegame:oh yar,
they were trying to sell me some motivational sales talk in malaysia. they din succeed too. i had too many of them already.
LOL
catnmousegame -
some woman there told me that EY was not an MLM company in fact, it was a Single Level Marketing, SLM company! whoa!
and she still told me that EY did not follow the pyramidical structure where the money you earn goes to the top, load of rubbish. -
Even better, they said it was "starting own business"Originally posted by thehappybunny:some woman there told me that EY was not an MLM company in fact, it was a Single Level Marketing, SLM company! whoa!
and she still told me that EY did not follow the pyramidical structure where the money you earn goes to the top, load of rubbish.
Say what be entreprenual... -
exactly what my friend told me...Originally posted by redstone:Even better, they said it was "starting own business"
Say what be entreprenual...
he even told me he believed that "network marketing" would be the future industry...
wtfux...honestly... -
If mlm is furture of retail (wtf thinking if this) then one day all the shops would close down.Originally posted by thehappybunny:exactly what my friend told me...
he even told me he believed that "network marketing" would be the future industry...
wtfux...honestly... brainwashed by the boss.
Also I've heard ppl say "there are 3 ways to success. Stocks & shares, starting own business or mlm" To them success = money. I've seen some despo EY agent trying to drag me in say cost of living increase, where got space for interest (passion) jobs? -
they are seriously more ways of earning money.
mlm is fine if they do it properly n stuff. all the tricks up the sleeves renders them untrustworthy. even if the product is good, but with their kinda attitude ppl wun dare to buy from them too.
y oni stocks n shares, business n mlm?
catnmousegame