Venture Era - a defending point of view.
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Originally posted by Studentofite:
Haha guys, please read carefully and closely. Don't be too fast with ur words, i didn't said it will cure or treated. Be realistic bro, today if you go for operation, doctors will never tell you its a 100% success. What ever you see on commercials they will never tell you its 100%, but thats the fact that it helps. Bro seriously go read up on books please.
lmao..
Go to bookstores health section, in MPH or Kinokuniya( i think its spelled like tat) haha. Go and read up.
Haha frankly speaking the more negative people in the market the more happy i will become. To alot of people they might be thinking ' wa! Doesn't tat means alot of people won't get it from me! Wa very difficult to do' .
Haha to me, i'm simple, people don't do it, i do it, when People negative, they will limit themselves from executing, and starts to give excuses and pushing the blame away. And here comes a chance. First of all i know products work and i study them, and the good thing is theres alot of people who never study about it and comment on it or heard from others. What i got to do is to educate on how the product can help, and service, isn't that what me as a salesman should do. Second of all teach customers how to use it and fortnightly check on how customers doing, still getting use to the products.. etc, visit them occasionally, buy something for them. The best thing is when your customer call you back and thank you. It feels really good. It double up their confidence in you, they are more than willing to assist you.
1) they trust your product.
2) they trust your servicing [don't think wrongly
i'm clean, what they know is serious
and your not doing this half-hearted]They will spread word of mouth and thats how your system kick start.
Now thats what i call servicing. If you do it right its a no problem. This will be a cycle, and not just customer get it once from you and leave it there. You need to put in effort.
Three kinds of people who will never get this right:
1) People who refuse to execute and remains the same.
2) People always feels that he/she is right or never even do it properly.
3) People who wants something in return for whatever they have contributed.
This is the technique what people in the sales&marketing are doing. Read books on how people around the world are doing sales. That is why people are doing well in sales and some are not. This is not just pure luck or having a good market. I've seen people doing it with 'Yellow Pages', Co-operate sales. Get this clear its not who the person you look for, its the time, sincerity, passion that the person is having when they go out for appointments.
If this way of doing is wrong, then seriously you will be penalising people all over the world who are making it big. I know you are very rational in what you have in mind. But slowly this debate will show how irrational a person can be. Its already very obvious, when everyone in the thread is dwelling upon 'overpricing', 'law thingy',etc.
Good Luck readers
if you think sincerity and such canot be measured by money, then why are you rambling around the points that the products are worth it because of the service?
you choosing to ignore all other points shows how you have actually conceeded to the fact that VE has no other point that it can argue on besides 'service' .
And to back everything up, would u please tell us you rank and we will talk about it. if you have 100+ customers, i seriously dont think you would call them fort-nightly as you would find it a chore to do so.
maybe what u ment by service is when a mlmer works as a Tele-marketer , door-to-door promoter, casher , after selling service staff, "expert" in magnetic/ virtually useless products with over-rated effects , cult-like recruter, profession liars who lie without guilt and try to lie to themselves to get over it, after sales service that you provide, casher ( like pass the money to ur admin ).
i guess if you add everything together you might get a "reasonable" price for your service. btw VE sells their products for about 3k and u only get a 400- 600 dolars commission. did VE provide the other 3k- (400 to 600) service?
its the agents who give the service, not VE so over-pricing the products and giving service as an excuse dont count at all, even if VE sells all their major products 1k cheaper, it would still be more expensive than the market value..
got to go to school right now ... bb
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Haha guys, please read carefully and closely. Don't be too fast with ur words, i didn't said it will cure or treated. Be realistic bro, today if you go for operation, doctors will never tell you its a 100% success. What ever you see on commercials they will never tell you its 100%, but thats the fact that it helps. Bro seriously go read up on books please.
lmao..
Go to bookstores health section, in MPH or Kinokuniya( i think its spelled like tat) haha. Go and read up.
Haha frankly speaking the more negative people in the market the more happy i will become. To alot of people they might be thinking ' wa! Doesn't tat means alot of people won't get it from me! Wa very difficult to do' .
Haha to me, i'm simple, people don't do it, i do it, when People negative, they will limit themselves from executing, and starts to give excuses and pushing the blame away. And here comes a chance. First of all i know products work and i study them, and the good thing is theres alot of people who never study about it and comment on it or heard from others. What i got to do is to educate on how the product can help, and service, isn't that what me as a salesman should do. Second of all teach customers how to use it and fortnightly check on how customers doing, still getting use to the products.. etc, visit them occasionally, buy something for them. The best thing is when your customer call you back and thank you. It feels really good. It double up their confidence in you, they are more than willing to assist you.
1) they trust your product.
2) they trust your servicing [don't think wrongly
i'm clean, what they know is serious and your not doing this half-hearted]They will spread word of mouth and thats how your system kick start.
Now thats what i call servicing. If you do it right its a no problem. This will be a cycle, and not just customer get it once from you and leave it there. You need to put in effort.
Three kinds of people who will never get this right:
1) People who refuse to execute and remains the same.
2) People always feels that he/she is right or never even do it properly.
3) People who wants something in return for whatever they have contributed.
This is the technique what people in the sales&marketing are doing. Read books on how people around the world are doing sales. That is why people are doing well in sales and some are not. This is not just pure luck or having a good market. I've seen people doing it with 'Yellow Pages', Co-operate sales. Get this clear its not who the person you look for, its the time, sincerity, passion that the person is having when they go out for appointments.
If this way of doing is wrong, then seriously you will be penalising people all over the world who are making it big. I know you are very rational in what you have in mind. But slowly this debate will show how irrational a person can be. Its already very obvious, when everyone in the thread is dwelling upon 'overpricing', 'law thingy',etc.
Good Luck readers
You quote, "Very simple if you can
- find ANY products which can cleanse ur liver and kidney and at the same time detox your body without taking any drugs and
- able to find testimonials on people who recovered from kidney failure, cancers, diabetics, tumour, hepatitis B, Stones.And its able to help people even in last stage cancer and AIDs. "
There are loads of detoxifying products that are way cheaper out there in the market.
Bro, you are contradicting yourself, 1st you said that VE products are able to recover patients health from the sickness/diseases that you have mentioned. Then in your 2nd post you claimed it doenst necessary cure or treat the patient. So which one is it?
By the way, how does it help with patients with last stage of cancer and AIDs. Most likely they wont survive. So how does it help? Release pain?
I think that you should go to the book stores that you have mentioned above and read up on health diseases etc. I do study medical sciences, dont try and challenge my knowledge unless you too study in the same field. Is there any scientific evidence that VE product works on everyone? If there is, show us links or reference of scientific research to back up your claims.
One eg. Magnetic therapy, for my mum, she does feel the effect but for my dad, its vice versa. I do understand that magnetic therapy work on some people, but NOT all. When I was in VE, the agents there claimed that magnetic therapy is for ALL. They should some documentary videos of magnetic therapy. The video doenst even seem reliable.
Many people here do have negative opinion on VE, how is it that we limit ourselves and give excuses and push the blame away? We have negative opinions is due to consequences of many bad actions from VE agents.
You claimed that you study your products well. From who? Your bosses? Is it it's they say so it has to be true?! Come on, back up with scientific research, not some hu-ha theory that this product works this way.
When you 'educate' prospects, you educate them with what you know, which may not even be true!
From your post, you seemed as if you are doing well with customer service, which is good.
However, its not worth the extra hundreds of dollars. You mentioned that service has no monetary value to compare to. How about the commissions that you are receiving? And that is little compared to the price that VE is selling at.
Calculate this:
Price of Product(VE) - your commission- upline commission - initial price of product - shipping - storage - miscelleneous = what is left is pay for Boss and C.A.s (which is alot)
So the price of customer service that YOU provide MOSTLY goes to the boss and CAs!
As I have said, use your own brain to think. Dont just follow blindly, cause when you fall, you wont even know what hit you.
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Today, I was doing some cleaning in my room and I found my old notebooks when I was in VE.
I read back the notebooks and realised how stupid and brainwashed i was in VE.
This is from mid 2006
Steven Ho quote : VE product is the best and better than other co.s
Kit Tan quote : No need read books, go out and do sales. Always ask for referrals.
Its good that you are studying at the same time doing this business of yours, but always remember, you are doing business full time and school part time. Follow Mr. Dewey's eg. he skipped so many classes during his poly so that he could help me with my presentation. Look at where he is now. earning 5 figure income every month.
One quotes from individuals in VE:
- People who left VE are all in good terms. None of them have bad impressions of VE. ( What a lie! How many people hates VE now?!)
- VE made me a more humble and mature person. ( Really, how come there's a lot of childish VE agents around? More humble? Come on, there's so many arrogant managers and car achievers in VE, condemning those working 8-5 and driving below 2000CC cars)
- Trust, believe and follow your seniors and you can reach your dreams. ( Of course, be as blind as the 3 blind mice)
- You all will be able to drive ferraris one day, and never have to work again and retire at a very young age. ( A possible dream, but to retire early? Not with mlm, once no one is under you, you have no money)
- VE ionic calcium treat cancer and many diseases. ( Lets see some scientific evidence)
- MLM business is cheapest and easiest business to do. VE system is better than binary system. Worst than binary system is traditional business where many fail and lose a lot of money. In VE, your chances of success is higher.( Why is the attrition rate in mlm is very high?)
- Saturation will never happen in singapore. There are also foreign workers here. Once all friends and relatives join, then recruit from other companies after that, recruit foreigners(banglahs etc.) . After that we can also recruit people from the whole world. ( Ridiculous isnt it?)
- I asked this qns," If too acidic burn, what happens if its too alkaline?" The ans," this would never happen as Singapore unhealthy eating habits, environment and lifestyle are causing more acidity. So, its impossible to have too alkaline".(Avoiding the 1st question. What is it with telling that too much alkaline will burn too? BTW, our stomach is acidic, once we take in alkaline, wont it be neutral. Taking alkaline should actually hurt our stomach since its supposed to be acidic to digest our food.)
- It doesnt matter about the product, as long as we can make the sale its alright, regardless of the reason for the sale. ( So much about caring for the customer 1st)
- Keep calling your friends, ask them out for coffee. Convince them that VE is good for them. Never give up until they say NO ten times. ( applaude for 'dont give up' attitude, but surely irritate a lot of people that they surely wont join you anyways)
- VE magnetic mattress is better than DW, Enyouth etc. VE magnetic mattress is the best, we have round magnets not the stripe ones from other co.s. We have more layers for comfortablity etc. That's y we are the best. ( Claiming to be the best even though it is based on THEIR opinions.)
- VE water system is better than Diamond because we have added ionic calcium which is better than just diamonds filteration system.( Condemning other co.s)
- It doesnt matter, just get your friends to the office. Give some reason for them to come, then we'll talk to them about the business plan. In a way, by getting them to come down to office, we are actually helping them. ( Denial! Giving excuses for their wrong doings)
- Pyramid selling and MLM is different thing. MLM have product, Pyramid selling dont have product. That's y it wont fall. ( Yes, they are different, however their structure is the same. Less people on top, more people below. Either way it will fall. More importantly, in both system, the below are are giving money to the top without the top contributing anything. Unlike a traditional co. structure, the top pays the ones below.)
- Prevention is better than cure. Using VE product can prevent heart disease, cholesterol, diabetes, cancers etc. ( Really, then confirm if I use VE product, I wont get all these diseases? give me a break)
- The person who made this ionic calcium as it is once had cancer. He was beyond cure and doctors cant do anything to help him. He sold his property, business assets etc. and then he found a magical powder given by his uncle in Japan. He consumed it and wa-lah, he got better and his cancer was gone. ( Such a miracle, doctors should have used this miracle powder!
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The ones that I bold are those that I give my opinion on.
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Originally posted by huzane89:
Today, I was doing some cleaning in my room and I found my old notebooks when I was in VE.
I read back the notebooks and realised how stupid and brainwashed i was in VE.
This is from mid 2006
Steven Ho quote : VE product is the best and better than other co.s
Kit Tan quote : No need read books, go out and do sales. Always ask for referrals.
Its good that you are studying at the same time doing this business of yours, but always remember, you are doing business full time and school part time. Follow Mr. Dewey's eg. he skipped so many classes during his poly so that he could help me with my presentation. Look at where he is now. earning 5 figure income every month.
One quotes from individuals in VE:
- People who left VE are all in good terms. None of them have bad impressions of VE. ( What a lie! How many people hates VE now?!)
- VE made me a more humble and mature person. ( Really, how come there's a lot of childish VE agents around? More humble? Come on, there's so many arrogant managers and car achievers in VE, condemning those working 8-5 and driving below 2000CC cars)
- Trust, believe and follow your seniors and you can reach your dreams. ( Of course, be as blind as the 3 blind mice)
- You all will be able to drive ferraris one day, and never have to work again and retire at a very young age. ( A possible dream, but to retire early? Not with mlm, once no one is under you, you have no money)
- VE ionic calcium treat cancer and many diseases. ( Lets see some scientific evidence)
- MLM business is cheapest and easiest business to do. VE system is better than binary system. Worst than binary system is traditional business where many fail and lose a lot of money. In VE, your chances of success is higher.( Why is the attrition rate in mlm is very high?)
- Saturation will never happen in singapore. There are also foreign workers here. Once all friends and relatives join, then recruit from other companies after that, recruit foreigners(banglahs etc.) . After that we can also recruit people from the whole world. ( Ridiculous isnt it?)
- I asked this qns," If too acidic burn, what happens if its too alkaline?" The ans," this would never happen as Singapore unhealthy eating habits, environment and lifestyle are causing more acidity. So, its impossible to have too alkaline".(Avoiding the 1st question. What is it with telling that too much alkaline will burn too? BTW, our stomach is acidic, once we take in alkaline, wont it be neutral. Taking alkaline should actually hurt our stomach since its supposed to be acidic to digest our food.)
- It doesnt matter about the product, as long as we can make the sale its alright, regardless of the reason for the sale. ( So much about caring for the customer 1st)
- Keep calling your friends, ask them out for coffee. Convince them that VE is good for them. Never give up until they say NO ten times. ( applaude for 'dont give up' attitude, but surely irritate a lot of people that they surely wont join you anyways)
- VE magnetic mattress is better than DW, Enyouth etc. VE magnetic mattress is the best, we have round magnets not the stripe ones from other co.s. We have more layers for comfortablity etc. That's y we are the best. ( Claiming to be the best even though it is based on THEIR opinions.)
- VE water system is better than Diamond because we have added ionic calcium which is better than just diamonds filteration system.( Condemning other co.s)
- It doesnt matter, just get your friends to the office. Give some reason for them to come, then we'll talk to them about the business plan. In a way, by getting them to come down to office, we are actually helping them. ( Denial! Giving excuses for their wrong doings)
- Pyramid selling and MLM is different thing. MLM have product, Pyramid selling dont have product. That's y it wont fall. ( Yes, they are different, however their structure is the same. Less people on top, more people below. Either way it will fall. More importantly, in both system, the below are are giving money to the top without the top contributing anything. Unlike a traditional co. structure, the top pays the ones below.)
- Prevention is better than cure. Using VE product can prevent heart disease, cholesterol, diabetes, cancers etc. ( Really, then confirm if I use VE product, I wont get all these diseases? give me a break)
- The person who made this ionic calcium as it is once had cancer. He was beyond cure and doctors cant do anything to help him. He sold his property, business assets etc. and then he found a magical powder given by his uncle in Japan. He consumed it and wa-lah, he got better and his cancer was gone. ( Such a miracle, doctors should have used this miracle powder!)
The ones that I bold are those that I give my opinion on.
was that what they told you to say?
one more contradictionONE LOSER : " why not just try it out? you wont lose anything"
next day : " you have no faith in our product, you have to buy one to try for yourself..."
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
was that what they told you to say?
one more contradictionONE LOSER : " why not just try it out? you wont lose anything"
next day : " you have no faith in our product, you have to buy one to try for yourself..."
I think that is what they want me to believe. Worse still, I think they believe that what they are doing is for 'the greater good.'.Those are what they told me in my 3 months in VE in 2006.
Oh yeah, my manager tried to push the magnetic mattress for me to buy. She always say "If you dont try you wont know". Stupid right, as if I am going to buy thousands of dollars worth of product just to try.
An experience from one of my friend who too had left VE: The presenter told her aunt that she could get a refund if the product is not satisfactory. Her aunt wanted a refund a few days after purchasing the magnetic mattress. Guess what? Cannot refund. Till now my friend is in a tough spot especially during family gatherings.
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Originally posted by huzane89:
I think that is what they want me to believe. Worse still, I think they believe that what they are doing is for 'the greater good.'.Those are what they told me in my 3 months in VE in 2006.
Oh yeah, my manager tried to push the magnetic mattress for me to buy. She always say "If you dont try you wont know". Stupid right, as if I am going to buy thousands of dollars worth of product just to try.
An experience from one of my friend who too had left VE: The presenter told her aunt that she could get a refund if the product is not satisfactory. Her aunt wanted a refund a few days after purchasing the magnetic mattress. Guess what? Cannot refund. Till now my friend is in a tough spot especially during family gatherings.
lmao .. should compile all the comments from ex ve people in a file then send to all ve members lol
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HAHAHA... WTF?? Now the peole is talking abt service. What kind of service is venture era giving?? It totally bullshit! Does VE provide fast and effective delivery for their products?? My gd fren's delivery was delayed for 4 mths.... What can i say... Reason given was product out of stock... I wonder what VE and the distributor been doin all these while.....
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VE like to say their service good but in actual fact, it sux
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Originally posted by huzane89:
Today, I was doing some cleaning in my room and I found my old notebooks when I was in VE.
I read back the notebooks and realised how stupid and brainwashed i was in VE.
This is from mid 2006
Steven Ho quote : VE product is the best and better than other co.s
Kit Tan quote : No need read books, go out and do sales. Always ask for referrals.
Its good that you are studying at the same time doing this business of yours, but always remember, you are doing business full time and school part time. Follow Mr. Dewey's eg. he skipped so many classes during his poly so that he could help me with my presentation. Look at where he is now. earning 5 figure income every month.
One quotes from individuals in VE:
- People who left VE are all in good terms. None of them have bad impressions of VE. ( What a lie! How many people hates VE now?!)
- VE made me a more humble and mature person. ( Really, how come there's a lot of childish VE agents around? More humble? Come on, there's so many arrogant managers and car achievers in VE, condemning those working 8-5 and driving below 2000CC cars)
- Trust, believe and follow your seniors and you can reach your dreams. ( Of course, be as blind as the 3 blind mice)
- You all will be able to drive ferraris one day, and never have to work again and retire at a very young age. ( A possible dream, but to retire early? Not with mlm, once no one is under you, you have no money)
- VE ionic calcium treat cancer and many diseases. ( Lets see some scientific evidence)
- MLM business is cheapest and easiest business to do. VE system is better than binary system. Worst than binary system is traditional business where many fail and lose a lot of money. In VE, your chances of success is higher.( Why is the attrition rate in mlm is very high?)
- Saturation will never happen in singapore. There are also foreign workers here. Once all friends and relatives join, then recruit from other companies after that, recruit foreigners(banglahs etc.) . After that we can also recruit people from the whole world. ( Ridiculous isnt it?)
- I asked this qns," If too acidic burn, what happens if its too alkaline?" The ans," this would never happen as Singapore unhealthy eating habits, environment and lifestyle are causing more acidity. So, its impossible to have too alkaline".(Avoiding the 1st question. What is it with telling that too much alkaline will burn too? BTW, our stomach is acidic, once we take in alkaline, wont it be neutral. Taking alkaline should actually hurt our stomach since its supposed to be acidic to digest our food.)
- It doesnt matter about the product, as long as we can make the sale its alright, regardless of the reason for the sale. ( So much about caring for the customer 1st)
- Keep calling your friends, ask them out for coffee. Convince them that VE is good for them. Never give up until they say NO ten times. ( applaude for 'dont give up' attitude, but surely irritate a lot of people that they surely wont join you anyways)
- VE magnetic mattress is better than DW, Enyouth etc. VE magnetic mattress is the best, we have round magnets not the stripe ones from other co.s. We have more layers for comfortablity etc. That's y we are the best. ( Claiming to be the best even though it is based on THEIR opinions.)
- VE water system is better than Diamond because we have added ionic calcium which is better than just diamonds filteration system.( Condemning other co.s)
- It doesnt matter, just get your friends to the office. Give some reason for them to come, then we'll talk to them about the business plan. In a way, by getting them to come down to office, we are actually helping them. ( Denial! Giving excuses for their wrong doings)
- Pyramid selling and MLM is different thing. MLM have product, Pyramid selling dont have product. That's y it wont fall. ( Yes, they are different, however their structure is the same. Less people on top, more people below. Either way it will fall. More importantly, in both system, the below are are giving money to the top without the top contributing anything. Unlike a traditional co. structure, the top pays the ones below.)
- Prevention is better than cure. Using VE product can prevent heart disease, cholesterol, diabetes, cancers etc. ( Really, then confirm if I use VE product, I wont get all these diseases? give me a break)
- The person who made this ionic calcium as it is once had cancer. He was beyond cure and doctors cant do anything to help him. He sold his property, business assets etc. and then he found a magical powder given by his uncle in Japan. He consumed it and wa-lah, he got better and his cancer was gone. ( Such a miracle, doctors should have used this miracle powder!)
The ones that I bold are those that I give my opinion on.
VE is always saying how good their company is, how their products are better than others. I said why don't want to go and try to get some awards to prove it like Amway and Nuskin, they said it's a waste of time. I then asked why is VE not invited to some of the international mlm meeting like enyouth, they said it's a waste of time to go.
Ya, saying how good their companies and products are...
@huzane, doctors also say eating a healthy diet is a preventation to some illness but it does not means will not get them. Unless VE people tell you if you use their products, sure won't get heart disease, cholesterol, diabetes, cancers etc
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Originally posted by Peaceman85:
VE is always saying how good their company is, how their products are better than others. I said why don't want to go and try to get some awards to prove it like Amway and Nuskin, they said it's a waste of time. I then asked why is VE not invited to some of the international mlm meeting like enyouth, they said it's a waste of time to go.
Ya, saying how good their companies and products are...
@huzane, doctors also say eating a healthy diet is a preventation to some illness but it does not means will not get them. Unless VE people tell you if you use their products, sure won't get heart disease, cholesterol, diabetes, cancers etc
the thing is, even though doctors advise us with healthy diet and exercise and more to prevent some illnesses, they dont cost so much money.But for VE products, they always say prevention is better than cure. But at what cost?! What if i pay thousands of dollars and still get cancer or something?
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I work in VE before and if you are so call their "potential BM" they will go to any appointment with u for fix up a lao jiao presenter for u
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"potential BM"
Are you refering to their ME?
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Originally posted by Peaceman85:
"potential BM"
Are you refering to their ME?
I forgot what's the term i think it's ME
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Originally posted by Midlusionz:
I forgot what's the term i think it's ME
Marketing Executive. Or are you refering to MM (Marketing Manager) because it's one rank before BM (Business Manager)? -
why do they give the ranking name that would woa others. Wah! you business manager while you still studying ar? So gd. One month the pay is a few k. Wah.
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That is to allow them to tee up themselves in front of their friends. Imagine if your friend is a manager of a compnay, you will be more interested to find out more and is more willing to listen to them. Another thing is that the rank make them feel good. But not all the managers there earn a few k, what normal managers outside are earning. Besides, getting to manager rank in VE is not hard, the first manager rank in Enyouth is DM, second highest rank and AM in DW, third highest. In VE, I don't think MM is even half way up the ladder yet.
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wah .. i tot white_soul reaper dissapeared... then i saw her post at another tread at 17 july... i almost tot she wanted to sue sum1 for calling her a bitch
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
wah .. i tot white_soul reaper dissapeared... then i saw her post at another tread at 17 july... i almost tot she wanted to sue sum1 for calling her a bitch
i didnt disappeared from this forum... I disappeared from this pathetic, biased thread... Yes, I have sued that bastard paganist and he's paying me 10K and for the courts proceedings. So, I still win. -
Originally posted by huzane89:
Today, I was doing some cleaning in my room and I found my old notebooks when I was in VE.
I read back the notebooks and realised how stupid and brainwashed i was in VE.
This is from mid 2006
Steven Ho quote : VE product is the best and better than other co.s
Kit Tan quote : No need read books, go out and do sales. Always ask for referrals.
Its good that you are studying at the same time doing this business of yours, but always remember, you are doing business full time and school part time. Follow Mr. Dewey's eg. he skipped so many classes during his poly so that he could help me with my presentation. Look at where he is now. earning 5 figure income every month.
One quotes from individuals in VE:
- People who left VE are all in good terms. None of them have bad impressions of VE. ( What a lie! How many people hates VE now?!)
- VE made me a more humble and mature person. ( Really, how come there's a lot of childish VE agents around? More humble? Come on, there's so many arrogant managers and car achievers in VE, condemning those working 8-5 and driving below 2000CC cars)
- Trust, believe and follow your seniors and you can reach your dreams. ( Of course, be as blind as the 3 blind mice)
- You all will be able to drive ferraris one day, and never have to work again and retire at a very young age. ( A possible dream, but to retire early? Not with mlm, once no one is under you, you have no money)
- VE ionic calcium treat cancer and many diseases. ( Lets see some scientific evidence)
- MLM business is cheapest and easiest business to do. VE system is better than binary system. Worst than binary system is traditional business where many fail and lose a lot of money. In VE, your chances of success is higher.( Why is the attrition rate in mlm is very high?)
- Saturation will never happen in singapore. There are also foreign workers here. Once all friends and relatives join, then recruit from other companies after that, recruit foreigners(banglahs etc.) . After that we can also recruit people from the whole world. ( Ridiculous isnt it?)
- I asked this qns," If too acidic burn, what happens if its too alkaline?" The ans," this would never happen as Singapore unhealthy eating habits, environment and lifestyle are causing more acidity. So, its impossible to have too alkaline".(Avoiding the 1st question. What is it with telling that too much alkaline will burn too? BTW, our stomach is acidic, once we take in alkaline, wont it be neutral. Taking alkaline should actually hurt our stomach since its supposed to be acidic to digest our food.)
- It doesnt matter about the product, as long as we can make the sale its alright, regardless of the reason for the sale. ( So much about caring for the customer 1st)
- Keep calling your friends, ask them out for coffee. Convince them that VE is good for them. Never give up until they say NO ten times. ( applaude for 'dont give up' attitude, but surely irritate a lot of people that they surely wont join you anyways)
- VE magnetic mattress is better than DW, Enyouth etc. VE magnetic mattress is the best, we have round magnets not the stripe ones from other co.s. We have more layers for comfortablity etc. That's y we are the best. ( Claiming to be the best even though it is based on THEIR opinions.)
- VE water system is better than Diamond because we have added ionic calcium which is better than just diamonds filteration system.( Condemning other co.s)
- It doesnt matter, just get your friends to the office. Give some reason for them to come, then we'll talk to them about the business plan. In a way, by getting them to come down to office, we are actually helping them. ( Denial! Giving excuses for their wrong doings)
- Pyramid selling and MLM is different thing. MLM have product, Pyramid selling dont have product. That's y it wont fall. ( Yes, they are different, however their structure is the same. Less people on top, more people below. Either way it will fall. More importantly, in both system, the below are are giving money to the top without the top contributing anything. Unlike a traditional co. structure, the top pays the ones below.)
- Prevention is better than cure. Using VE product can prevent heart disease, cholesterol, diabetes, cancers etc. ( Really, then confirm if I use VE product, I wont get all these diseases? give me a break)
- The person who made this ionic calcium as it is once had cancer. He was beyond cure and doctors cant do anything to help him. He sold his property, business assets etc. and then he found a magical powder given by his uncle in Japan. He consumed it and wa-lah, he got better and his cancer was gone. ( Such a miracle, doctors should have used this miracle powder!)
The ones that I bold are those that I give my opinion on.
come on...Your story is from 2006.... By the way, VE dont work that way... My guess is you're in la la land...
Even if VE was the way you said it, it was 2 years ago... VE have changed so much and is much better... i think that you feel this way because you felt cheated by your manager... Well, there's only a few black sheeps in VE, not all of us are that way...
Be positive ya...
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Originally posted by Peaceman85:
That is to allow them to tee up themselves in front of their friends. Imagine if your friend is a manager of a compnay, you will be more interested to find out more and is more willing to listen to them.
Another thing is that the rank make them feel good. But not all the managers there earn a few k, what normal managers outside are earning.
Besides, getting to manager rank in VE is not hard, the first manager rank in Enyouth is DM, second highest rank and AM in DW, third highest. In VE, I don’t think MM is even half way up the ladder yet.
Its better than having, rank 1, rank 2... Anyways, having the manager position gives us a little more confidence.... There's nothing wrong with that...If getting rank in VE is to be very difficult, then many wont join.... That's why, joining VE would be the easiest mlm company that one would join...
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why do you think that VE products is expensive? I certainly dont...
If you look carefully, nothing can be compared with ones health... What is a few K compared to ones health?
And VE products is a considered a miracle product, except for the magnetic therapy products of course...
VE service may not be that efficient, but it's definitely up to standard... The price of the product is not the price of our service. Studentofite, you should know that service is not accounted for in price of the product...
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Originally posted by White_SoulReaper:
why do you think that VE products is expensive? I certainly dont...
If you look carefully, nothing can be compared with ones health... What is a few K compared to ones health?
And VE products is a considered a miracle product, except for the magnetic therapy products of course...
VE service may not be that efficient, but it's definitely up to standard... The price of the product is not the price of our service. Studentofite, you should know that service is not accounted for in price of the product...
you contradict so much between the two treads... u said that no one is going to buy at 1k+ and yet u say VE's products are not expensive? -
Originally posted by elementalangel:
you contradict so much between the two treads... u said that no one is going to buy at 1k+ and yet u say VE's products are not expensive?
read my posts properly and understand it...The product is not expensive compared to ones health... In mlm, people use relationship and trust to sell their products... People wont account for the money so much...
In your situation, you are selling it to the cold market... People dont know you, dont trust you... How do you buy 1K item from a person/brand that you dont know or trust?
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oh well no point explaining to u.. just see for yourself when it comes out..
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its great to know that even people in VE knows that people buy their products mainly because of relationship