Venture Era - a defending point of view.
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Originally posted by eagle:
i have not looked into that... still building up a base with what I have said just now.... SPH, Singpost :D
I will then expand from that base...
hmm... ever considered budding enterprises? haha... that type can really skyrocket alot..
oh well.. enuf abt stocks..
anyway as for passive income in VE, its quite impossible for a long term run.
Even for the best possible outcome, the upline could only get a fixed ammount for each downline over the entire timespan till the downline gets the same rank as him. Thus its not really passive income if you would really want to scrutinise .
Any way can Ageleon post the entire compensation plan here? so we could calculate the maximum ammount of money each upline could get from his downlines? -
Ppl just love to denied everything.
Lesson 1: Ways to get "Passive income"
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hi, u mentioned you had some friends who where in VE before, could you introduce me to them? just want to see if they are willing to give another try, but not in VE. Thanks.
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Originally posted by Midlusionz:
Haha..... hey btw u know the entire ve compensation plan?
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I was once in VE and i have to say that their income and promotion plans are quite solid. At the start you get $400 for every sale of their water purification system, magnetic matress or their air purifier and as you promote your profit raises by $100 until you reach a max of $800 per sale. Every upline also gets $100 for a sale made by the downline.They do not cheat their employees of their money and u can make a decent earning. The reason i quit was because their products were overpriced and they couldn't give a good explanation for why this was so.
The first product, the water purification system is about $2000 by a brand known as cal ion water. They say that alot of research has gone into the product and that it is used in korea but you can't find anything about it on the internet and the ppl at VE told me that all the websites are in korean
The second product, the magnetic matress is sold for abt $2000 for queen and $3000 king. The matress is manufactured by VE in the US. If u searched for magnetic matresses on the internet you will find that all of them are priced between 300 to 500 US dollars. The excuse they give for this is that the mattresses made by other companies are lousy quality even though these companies sell their products to a global market and their products are reviewed by websites like amazon.com
You can find the same ecoquest fresh air purifier that is sold by VE for abt $3000 selling on the internet for 800 US dollars. According to them, they spend money converting the voltage of the product, which u can bypass by buying a $30 step down adapter. They also told me that shipping costs are included and since only ppl at VE are trainned on repairing the product ppl have to pay extra for service.
So, this is how VE makes money. They get teengers to sell their products to their parents and relatives who will buy them overpriced to "support their business". It is not illegal but i feel like its exploiting teens to rip off their relatives.
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
Haha..... hey btw u know the entire ve compensation plan?
I dunno if there are any changes but from wat i remember .. Their marketing plan is worst than Bel'air (considering Bel'air had change the marketing plan)
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Originally posted by AceRaptor:
I was once in VE and i have to say that their income and promotion plans are quite solid. At the start you get $400 for every sale of their water purification system, magnetic matress or their air purifier and as you promote your profit raises by $100 until you reach a max of $800 per sale. Every upline also gets $100 for a sale made by the downline.They do not cheat their employees of their money and u can make a decent earning. The reason i quit was because their products were overpriced and they couldn't give a good explanation for why this was so.
The first product, the water purification system is about $2000 by a brand known as cal ion water. They say that alot of research has gone into the product and that it is used in korea but you can't find anything about it on the internet and the ppl at VE told me that all the websites are in korean
The second product, the magnetic matress is sold for abt $2000 for queen and $3000 king. The matress is manufactured by VE in the US. If u searched for magnetic matresses on the internet you will find that all of them are priced between 300 to 500 US dollars. The excuse they give for this is that the mattresses made by other companies are lousy quality even though these companies sell their products to a global market and their products are reviewed by websites like amazon.com
You can find the same ecoquest fresh air purifier that is sold by VE for abt $3000 selling on the internet for 800 US dollars. According to them, they spend money converting the voltage of the product, which u can bypass by buying a $30 step down adapter. They also told me that shipping costs are included and since only ppl at VE are trainned on repairing the product ppl have to pay extra for service.
So, this is how VE makes money. They get teengers to sell their products to their parents and relatives who will buy them overpriced to "support their business". It is not illegal but i feel like its exploiting teens to rip off their relatives.
True story.
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no complete marketting plan anyone? or angeleon alr gave up?
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no complete marketting plan anyone? or angeleon alr gave up?
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considering that you can only get income from your dirrect downline. ( rectify me if i am wrong)
160k to a dm which is the highest achievable rank with no downlines.
you get lets say 25 percent of the 160k.
you have earned 40k once you reach bm
then you need 3 bm to reach bgm.
considering that you leverage 100 from every 2k product your downline sells, you would leverage 8000 dolars fromeach downline maximum. Unless they are dumb enough to sell the product under their own name besides their downlines once they are in the bm range. -
so in total its 8k a dirrect downline.. you just need 120 dirrect downlines to be a millionare if all turns to bm/bgm!!! cool!!!!
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May the stock market crash today!
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Originally posted by eagle:
May the stock market crash today!
why?
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
why?
Then can enter cheaply :D
When economy bad, a full-time stable job can still provide sufficient bullets to enter the market at low prices. Earning potential is high.
Compared to expensive luxury health products... Economy bad... very little people wants to buy... You won't earn much to have enough to enter the market to get those attractive prices ;D
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Where's Pacer? Another NATO.
So arrogant. Want to sue, come on. Why so quiet?
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lol
they all tok only la....
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Originally posted by eagle:
Then can enter cheaply :D
When economy bad, a full-time stable job can still provide sufficient bullets to enter the market at low prices. Earning potential is high.
Compared to expensive luxury health products... Economy bad... very little people wants to buy... You won't earn much to have enough to enter the market to get those attractive prices ;D
actually... during economy downturns... people tend to buy more... coz everythign is cheap.. =X maybe not all... by most of the richer people
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actually... middle to lower class would most prob stop investing... then the richer ones will keep buying.... then share price rise... rich sell, poor buy.... vicious cycle continues..
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my family members bought VE products b4 n they told me theres no effect at all..weird..i havent try it so i dont wanna give any comments on it..anyway, im an employee of a mlm company.im quitting anyway..theres no integrity..and it takes them more than 3 days to tell us our salary..they even taught me how to cheat customers..im so not gonna do that..
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Well after much reading and all, i realised that it's rather pointless for me, at least, to venture in to venture era. ;D
I mean, yea , like people have said, i was actually in this group for a little less then a week, before i got a little weeny suspicious and went to reseach about it . They use what i would say more of a " cheat tatic " rather then really selling it , and as said, there are cheaper ones available of the same products they have.
It's rather weird, the whole thing, and i'm glad to say , since i'm waiting for results, that i managed to find a part time job at starhub with a decent temp pay. =)
Though i can't say for certain that this Group is all bad, but somehow, it doesn't appeal to me as i thought it first would. Even so, i was lured by the fact that they said there would be a FIXED salary doing admin stuff, i got totally " tricked " in a way to come down and look at thier products instead.
So yea, O level results are due on the 12th. OMG
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If VE is really that good,why should I join VE instead of going for a PROPER,more RECOGNIZED degree in university? Furthermore, what people are doing at VE is that they are SELLING a product and not doing a BUSINESS.What kind of business do you think you will learn? Basic law of economics? Mind you, many universities across the globe include that under business course because you can't run a business without knowing it.
If VE products are really THAT good, why can't I find a VE store anywhere in Singapore? Just like Rolex has its own store in Orchard?
And, what is the science behind all the products? There seems to be no mention of it on the VE website. I was once approached by one of the VE sales to sell me some kind of purifier. And guess what he said?
quote~"It makes water molecules smaller so that they can be absorbed easily by the body."
How on earth do you shrink a water molucule?!?! Remove electrons? Then destabilise it where it breaks into hydrogen ions and hydroxide ions? Any O level chemistry student would know that you CANNOT SHRINK a water molecule!
If someone from VE can give me a reasonable answer to my questions, I'll definitely join VE.
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Here it is
Originally posted by YOU ARE A PIG:i wan to clarify thing propertly. I am a student from nan yang poly and i not working and i feel that i need to say something out in my mind…
Firstly, i read book regrading mlm and pyramid… mlm and pyramid is totally different… mlm is you work without investing any money but pyramid is that you need to invest money so you will earn money… but then mlm is legal but pyramid is illegal… and also if mlm is a scam why do singapore government let them set out… u see if u say that government don’t care why does police wan to investigate sunshine empire… and everyone know that actually working at sunshine need to pay money dun u think is pyramid le ma… so u can see that why pyramid we cal illegal…
secondly, ppl say that ve is a scam why police dun wan investigate lei… this mean that actually ve is not a scam at all…
thirdly, not everyone can be a tuition teacher who can earn 3k to 4k… my uncle is a tution teacher who is earning 4k a month but do u know why he can earn that much coze he is a degree holder… u see if u are a GCE O LVL grad and u wan be a tuition teacher yes u can but if u think other way if u are a parent and ur child is taking o lvl would u rather find a degree holder or a gce o lvl holder… u would confirm find a degree holder… so u think tat everyone can earn 3k to 4k being a tuition teacher… so the rest who is only o lvl grad dun need earn 3k to 4k lo… yes i know that mlm can earn 3k more… this is where a chance to let those who cant really be a tuition teacher etc to succeed over there… and not everyone so lucky as other who can study poly… there is ppl out there who score high mark for o lvl but yet cant enter poly coze of moeny… so if so u think tat they really wan it ma… no they oso dun wan tat why they mlm can let them succeed…
fourtly, i am using ve products… lyk magnetic braclet… do u know tat eventually their braclet is cheaper than owell itself… why i use their product is coze when i read a book they say that actually magnetic can help to improve blood circulation… and i at first wanna buy owell but it is so expensive that i nv buy at all… and i when to check other brands which oso selling and i came arcoss that ve oso selling it and their price is cheaper and eventually i buy it by goin down to that company alone without anyone accompany… and after that i oso brrought their pearl ion lotion it really improve my skin and i oso ask my dad to try using the magnetic bed itself eventually it helps him to lower his high blood pressure… and btw the price is much more cheaper than some other brands itself… that why i feel that ve product is good…
ur will be asking why i helping mlm saying good things and why i didn’t join them it is very simple… firstly i studying for last year poly and den no time to commit at all… secondly i goin oversea next year and be staying there for years and no point to work half way… but if i got chance i would oso lyk to work there… the product is a good product which i had confidence in it… and lastly no matter i go oversea i still will contiune buyin their products…
guys everyone got their passion… everyone would lyk to earn money… so pls dun say other company is a scam or not good etc… b4 u say others think abt urself… we should say those who try mlm is a encourage person coze they willing to try… and the rest who will only say work mlm will earn more money is a dreamer… but u ask urself would u there to try out… what if one day one of ur friend one is mlm and he/she earn 6k per month… dun tell mi u will nt work over there… if u work over there den i oso can say u are dreaming… guys pls help other to think… dun be selfish… dun see one side… but pls see both side…
http://www.sgforums.com/forums/14/topics/213780?page=60
this is where a chance to let those who cant really be a tuition teacher etc to succeed over there… and not everyone so lucky as other who can study poly… there is ppl out there who score high mark for o lvl but yet cant enter poly coze of moeny… so if so u think tat they really wan it ma… no they oso dun wan tat why they mlm can let them succeed…
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Originally posted by eagle:
Here it is
http://www.sgforums.com/forums/14/topics/213780?page=60
this is where a chance to let those who cant really be a tuition teacher etc to succeed over there… and not everyone so lucky as other who can study poly… there is ppl out there who score high mark for o lvl but yet cant enter poly coze of moeny… so if so u think tat they really wan it ma… no they oso dun wan tat why they mlm can let them succeed…
Actually in singapore, if you are of low income family and if your O lvls results are good, there are many organisations that pay for your remaining tuition fees. Furthermore, there are loans provided too. It's just a matter if the persons are informed about available schemes or not.
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To : Heyy mugger
How on earth do you shrink a water molucule?!?! Remove electrons? Then destabilise it where it breaks into hydrogen ions and hydroxide ions? Any O level chemistry student would know that you CANNOT SHRINK a water molecule!
If someone from VE can give me a reasonable answer to my questions, I'll definitely join VE.
well... it doesn't breaks down the molecule structure. It breaks down the molecule structure CLUSTER .
H2O definately cannot be seperated.
so .. example..
Tap water molecule structure cluster is 12-13 H2O
The products breaks it to 3-4 H2O
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My mum wasn't very happy when I joined Venture Era and she told me to quit immediately. I told my 'manager' in VE and he told me to continue doing the job.. but secretly, keeping from my mum.
I quit immediately.
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Think the basic rule of choosing a company is to ask yourself, will I still use the products even I have left the company?
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