Venture Era - a defending point of view.
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Who knows what they used to cover it up? If they are under CASE, why they did not appear in the list of companies? Leading people misunderstand or in fact VE really does not have certification of CASE.
u should know NKF scandal.
The National Kidney Foundation Singapore scandal, also known as the NKF saga, NKF scandal, or NKF controversy, was a July 2005 scandal involving National Kidney Foundation Singapore
The trial began on 11 July 2005, with Long and SPH represented by Senior Counsel and MP Davinder Singh, while NKF and Durai were represented by Senior Counsel Michael Khoo. Under cross-examination, it was revealed that Durai collected a monthly salary of $25,000 and collected a 10-month bonus in 2002 and a 12-month bonus in both 2003 and 2004, for a total of $1.8 million over three years. He had access to a fleet of eight chauffeured cars and the NKF paid the taxes and maintenance costs of his personal Mercedes-Benz.
source :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Kidney_Foundation_Singapore_scandal
i mean if some1 or a company do wrong things,
it dun take too long be4 for it 2 be exposed.
like i earlier menton that even Let say their so-called case certi is fake n
they'd saying
that they had dis certi for the past 7 yrs
pple/customer n etc should
sued ve long time ago n case should had been alerted by dis fake
certi which the company had!!!!
If even they used something to cover it up.They couldn't
hide it 4ever,right???Dis 1 only time'll tell whether ve is case-certi or not.
Maybe nxt yr,there'll be ve scandal.
my ve friend told me tat casetrust n case are diff thing.ve's still under active members there.
If i gt the list of case-certi company from him or found,i'll post it here again 2
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AlessandroTan you better brush up on your English. It sucked.
In short about the average families, they even have difficulites in their average life or i say financial problem. and you guys who doing MLM still 'persuading' them to buy. First, you brainwashed their kids. Next, you guys went their house and show all those things to their parents. $2k you think everyone can buy ah? don say for what long-term usage. comparing seeing doctor than using the products. It is two different issues
thks 4 yr advice,i'll try 2 brush up my eng!!!!!!!
erm.u're right in some points.Let say if 1 member come from a family who's geting a serious illness like cancer n the family is in financial problem.
u should know that hospital bills will be damn expensive even if the bills is
being subsidise.
If u compared hospital bills with purchasing health products.Anyway,both
of them will caused the family 2 have more financial problem.
if given a choice,i strongly believe the poor families'll opt 4 buying health
products.Y becos hospital bill give them more financial problem.Hospital
bill including Operation,MRI Scan,diff ward n etc can reach in 5k n more.
Y comparing seeing doctor than using the products. It is two different issues??
i know you guys said, it is best benefitting one's family and it is more of sharing about the products then selling. This is just cover-up. Trying to deny when others are saying you are trying to sell to them, trying to brainwash the kids out there. Am i right to say that?
since u from ve b4.1 of ve rule state that no force-selling is allowed.
We give them reason/persuade them 2 purchase.If 1 member come from a family who's suffering from stress-related illness,we give them even more reason 2 purchase.right??
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Alessandro, I think u really need to brush up on ur English by ALOT. I read less than 30% of ur recent posts, and I doubt anyone bothered to read most of it either. Pls learn paraphrasing, and when u quote someone, just quote the main point and not the whole chunk of text. U wanna be an entrepreneur this way? Pfft, what's up with society these days?
Quote: "E.g my friend wants 2 find a job n i told i gt dis mlm lobang. wat u think of his/hert first reaction.My friend confirm say cannot do,it's fake de. Becos pple're senstive 2 dis word called MLM."
STILL, it doesn't give them a right to LIE. Furthermore, VE doesn't rely on friend-to-friend recruitment. They somehow managed to secure a wide extensive network, to conduct phonecall recruitment. If it is so, it's considered a formal act of recruitment, and should be chargeable by law, for misleading potential recruits.
I dun care whether u deal with MLM, or underworld drugs, or gambling cruise, or whatever sh!t, honesty is still utmost priority. If u blatantly lie right from the start, how can I trust u guys as fellow 'entrepreneurs' or even 'working colleagues'?
I'm not sure what tactics Amway use, cos' I never kena before. But pls dun use another company to shield ur own company. Pls tackle the issue at hand, rather than trying to evade the topic by mentioning another company. I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks alot.
Quote: "Both mlm companies n osim,oto n etc does pour capital into R&D.If not y 4 the MLM companies hire research PROFESSIONAL n product Consultant.If MLM companies realli dun pour capital into R&D.How they come out with new products,right??? Anyway,both rely on word of mouth n media advertisement gt cons n pros."
PROFESSIONAL product consultant worrr! Eh, tell me, 16-17 yr old fresh O Lvl graduates are considered PROFESSIONAL product consultant? This one, must jiao wo leh (teach me leh)! Those 16 yr old young punks are merely re-gargitating what they've learnt in those 'motivation' talks. Professional, my foot.
And are u dumb or what? MLM companies dun research products by themselves. They're distributors. They dun develop those healthcare products by themselves. So, those new products come from the manufacturers, not the distributors, which is VE in this case. My god, such a simple and obvious fact also can't differentiate. How to be entrepreneur like that?
As for the CASE matter, I shan't add fuel to the fire. Fight it out among u guys.
I agree with a poster who suggested those who were victims of VE's phonecalls should unite and bring this case up to the authorities. Count me in! 
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This is just part of MLM's tactic to promote their products. Who don want to sell the products? They have 1000 ways to say things about the world. Am i right to say that? i want to sell you things, of course will boast about how great my product works and the demands in economy. Aiming at all the weak points of the family.
u're right in some ways.However,it's truth that the product're in demand as
majority of S'porean are beginning 2 be health-consciense.
In in the world of sales, no saleperson 'll tell U that their products're bad.
like doing fact finds. Finding out who in the family have illness and then persuading the family to get the product for their elderly. Am i right to say that? In the end, it is still money you VE/MLM are targeting at.
doing facts on family background is important.so that they can determine which product should suit them most,right??
agree that $$$ play a part.Osim n etc are also targeting at money.If u buy
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Using VE products does not make you invulerable against illness. Please get it clear before using this to lie again!
erm.who dun know dis.If health product can make a person vulerable against
illness,doctor n hospital can say bye bye!!!!
Health products're meant 2 prevent illness.
Decreasing the chance of u getting illness.
u sound like doubting their products or u dun believe in magnetic treatment???
At least i have a diploma or degree showing others i have completed my studies. But at least i am doing a fixed-paid job, having my certification. What if VE had sales going down? or some unknown causes in the products? Who knows what will happened. At least i have my cert, i still young and can go else where to look for job. And in VE? The "Certificate of Venture Era" leads you no where? MLM don't not make money forever, mind you. Working in a fixed 9 to 5 company still earn as much. Stop brainwashing the kids please. Don ruined them. They are Singapore's future.
it's gd 4 having a certi.fixed-paid job gt its pros n cons.Even if u do yr best
4 the company,u still draw a fixed pay.However,not all the jobs're
fixed-pay.Some factory pay their workers by using result shemes(straight piecework)
If u produce more,i pay u more.sound fair,right??
Health product need to go through HSA n detail n strict check.Look @ china
now.they had stricten their check on Health products after the toothpaste
incident.who know in future,ve n osim n etc may also produce cleaning
products,open cafe n etc.they may focus on other industries like food n etc.
Totally agree that Working in a fixed 9 to 5 company still earn as much.but
with the rising cost nowadays,it seems diffcuilt.
diff pple had diff desire.some want 2 earn lots of $$$.some want 2 retire
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Alessandro, I think u really need to brush up on ur English by ALOT. I read less than 30% of ur recent posts, and I doubt anyone bothered to read most of it either. Pls learn paraphrasing, and when u quote someone, just quote the main point and not the whole chunk of text.
paiseh 4 spelling errors n i lazy 2 quote the main point so i quote the all thing!!!!!
if want 2 read or not is up 2 the pple.i cannot force pple 2 read.
STILL, it doesn't give them a right to LIE. Furthermore, VE doesn't rely on friend-to-friend recruitment. They somehow managed to secure a wide extensive network, to conduct phonecall recruitment. If it is so, it's considered a formal act of recruitment, and should be chargeable by law, for misleading potential recruits.
I toally agree that it doesn't give them a right to LIE!!!!!Of course,
VE doesn't rely on friend-to-friend recruitment.Like i say be4,
in short,all mlm companies had 2 resort recuiriting pple is the same as
osim,oto n etc still do Tv advertisement n in newpper .
The more pple i recurit,the more awareness i can create.
erm.there's such on act by s'pore about MLM n pyrimd. -
1 100% agree that honesty is still utmost priority. If u blatantly lie right from the start, how can I trust u guys as fellow 'entrepreneurs' or even 'working colleagues'?
But pls dun use another company to shield ur own company. Pls tackle the issue at hand, rather than trying to evade the topic by mentioning another company. I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks alot.
but Becos most pple're senstive 2 dis word called MLM.
erm.in yr point of view.it may be that i trying 2 shield ur own company n
evade the topic.
But honest speaking,I compare with other company not 2 shield ur own
company n evade the topic.
one of the e.g which i do comparsion :
IF amway distrubtors also use same tactic as VE distrubtors for pple
intend 2 apply 4 job,then I must say
this tactic is indeed works cos if dis tactic dun work,how come
amway would had so many distrubtors throughout the world!!!!!!
I compared is meant 2 let u know that Amway is a global leader in
direct selling/MLM n IF a global leader like amway use the same tactic
as ve in promoting product,recuirtment n etc.VE can also
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PROFESSIONAL product consultant worrr! Eh, tell me, 16-17 yr old fresh O Lvl graduates are considered PROFESSIONAL product consultant? This one, must jiao wo leh (teach me leh)! Those 16 yr old young punks are merely re-gargitating what they've learnt in those 'motivation' talks. Professional, my foot.
And are u dumb or what? MLM companies dun research products by themselves. They're distributors. They dun develop those healthcare products by themselves. So, those new products come from the manufacturers, not the distributors, which is VE in this case. My god, such a simple and obvious fact also can't differentiate. How to be entrepreneur like that.
hUH?????
if u been 2 ve be4,u should know the PROFESSIONAL product consultant called Mr Danny Teow not those 16-17 yr old fresh O Lvl graduates!!!!
pardon me 4 saying dis hokkien saying clever is gd enough,dun act clever.
Those 16-17 yr old fresh O Lvl graduates are all distrubitors.
erm.it's not that i am dumb or i dun know how differentiate a simple and obvious fact !!!!!!!!
Wat is role of manufacturers???In my point of view,manufacturers
are just 2 produce the products.They dun invent new products.
it must be from the company!!!!!!!
maybe the R & D Director or product consultant or Advisory Consultant or etc
who invented new products.
anyway,let take 4ever living 4 e.g.
it's a distrubtor n manufacturer of aloe vera and bee products as well!!!!!! -
erm.u're right in some points.Let say if 1 member come from a family who's geting a serious illness like cancer n the family is in financial problem. u should know that hospital bills will be damn expensive even if the bills is being subsidise. If u compared hospital bills with purchasing health products.Anyway,both of them will caused the family 2 have more financial problem. if given a choice,i strongly believe the poor families'll opt 4 buying health products.Y becos hospital bill give them more financial problem.Hospital bill including Operation,MRI Scan,diff ward n etc can reach in 5k n more. Y comparing seeing doctor than using the products. It is two different issues??
erm.who dun know dis.If health product can make a person vulerable against illness,doctor n hospital can say bye bye!!!! Health products're meant 2 prevent illness. Decreasing the chance of u getting illness. u sound like doubting their products or u dun believe in magnetic treatment????
So doesn't it still the same? you get illnesses and you see doctor. you use that magnetic mat, you will still fall sick and in the end still will see doctor right? unless that magnetic mat can do wonders? preventing cancer for those elderly? prevent all kind of sickness? what for waste money on these useless sh!ts, might as well go do something useful. better than let you all these unknown company to earn.
since u from ve b4.1 of ve rule state that no force-selling is allowed.
We give them reason/persuade them 2 purchase.If 1 member come from a family who's suffering from stress-related illness,we give them even more reason 2 purchase.right??
whether the customer buy or not is up 2 the customers.
oh? no force-selling? agree what you've said , but you will still be thick-skinned and keep staying at the house of your prospect to keep persuading them to buy and all that, a few weeks later still will continue to call the prospect up right? or doing some pretence of asking them like" how are you?" what's the use? Creating awardness? you think they give a fcuk about it? the more they hear, they get pissed off. not helping you to spread to the others. Wake up please.
Totally agree that Working in a fixed 9 to 5 company still earn as much.but with the rising cost nowadays,it seems diffcuilt. diff pple had diff desire.some want 2 earn lots of $$$.some want 2 retire early n rich and other desire.
So you think this VE can make you rich? it might, but until one time you will realise you can't go any further. Only then you will feel hong gan, desperate for money and beginning to use underhand tactic to trick people help you sell. Nowhere to go? Peole avoiding you? People hate you? you spoiled your own reputation by doing all these. AND WHY? because you wan money and want to get rich in a short-cut way. AM I RIGHT? Whatever you said mention are just trying to brainwash the young kids out there who are looking for part-time job. Stop that please. Don ruin them.
AND PLEASE STOP BRAINWASHING OUR KIDS IN SINGAPORE! THEY ARE SINGAPORE'S FUTURE! DON LET THEM END UP WASTING THEIR LIVES IN THIS STUPID MLM COMPANY! WHY YOU DON ASK YOUR MOM AND DAD TO JOIN? THEY CAN RETIRE EARLY AND YOUNG TOO. EARNING CAR AND 5-FIG income? ask your whole family go VE la ! .l..
If you guys continue doing that and let me tell you, one day VE will be sued. Try it. And when get sued, where are you going to go with your "Certificate of Venture Era" ? Teaching others how to venture in the new era? ha. ha. ha. -
So doesn't it still the same? you get illnesses and you see doctor. you use that magnetic mat, you will still fall sick and in the end still will see doctor right? unless that magnetic mat can do wonders? preventing cancer for those elderly? prevent all kind of sickness? what for waste money on these useless sh!ts, might as well go do something useful. better than let you all these unknown company to earn.
u might as well say that dun study better.Becos whether u gt certi or not,we
still die,right????
i agree that whether we use health product or not,we still die.
honest speaking : 95% of the illness is cause by stress.
as u know magnetic mattress,i-desire n etc can help 2 reduce stress.
in short,health product which gt the properties 2 reduce stress can prevent
the 95% illness.It's better than not relying on health products,right???
pardon 4 saying dis,u heard of dis saying ma??????
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So you think this VE can make you rich? because you wan money and want to get rich in a short-cut way. AM I RIGHT?
there's no shortout 2 get rich or success 1!!!!!!!!hear of the 80-20 rule??
This rule states that the top 20% is the most important contributor who contribite the most, while the balance 80% will make up for the balance. .
Example:
1) Most of the tax collected by the govt come from the Top 20% earner, while the bal 80% of population contribute 20% of tax.
2) 20% of the top customers of a company contribute 80% of the company's revenue.
so, if u wan to be rich and retire young, can. Just rem that of all the people who have the same dream as u, only 20% of them will be able to achieve it.
and how u going to do it??
1) born wif the top 20% parents,
2) be an entrepuner and hope u will be the 20% who manage to earn 80% of ur industry's revenue.
3) Study damn hard, work damn smart and be the Top 20% who manage to be appriecate by ur Super rich bosss..
there4, there're other opition 2 be rich 1!!!!!!
old saying : xiang xin jiu xiang,bu xiang xin jiu bu xiang!!!!!!!
WHY YOU DON ASK YOUR MOM AND DAD TO JOIN?
u go 1 round 2 shoot me--->My dad n my mum cannot join becos they
had little education!!!!!!!!!!!furthermore,they dun understand chim eng
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hey there everyone.
sometimes i wonder when would those idiots from venture era stop using those same old stupid tactics just to get more people to join their freaking company. just as what i've expected, another of me friends nearly got himself straight into that company.
and there're more out there who got tricked into it more than twice.
me friend told me his encounter with venture era last afternoon. he was called upon by his so-called friends for a meetup. yea something which he thought was only a friend-friend meetup. never did expect himself to be brought over to that MDIS building at eunos and got into the recruitment drive.
the usual briefings about those magnetic therapy and cal-ion water products they have in the company before he was called upon to meet the manager. what pissed me off was he mentioning about being forced to join the company.
they state the kinds of benefits you'll get when you join their company. yea right, more of just to recruit people so that they can promote faster themselves right into the higher portion of the multi-leve marketing hierarchy pyramid.
they made him fill in the application form and requested him to come down for the next training session which he didnt. but seriously let me ask you people a question. if there are truly friends inside venture era, why are the downlines made to call their uplines misters and miss _____?
seriously. human pride is the root of all the greeds we have.
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and the same old bloody question which havent been answered since the beginning i started posting in this stupid thread.
IF YOU GUYS FROM VENTURE ERA ARE REALLY GOOD. WHY FORCE PEOPLE TO JOIN THE COMPANY WHEN PEOPLE WILL NATURALLY KNOW THE PROS AND FLAWS OF THE COMPANY. YOU GUYS TELL ME. -
Agreed! why resort to this underhand tactic? no shame at all! in VE they teach you how to con people and be greedy. See that AlessandroTan's posting? look how he said?say VE until so good like that. if so good, why is there 9 : 1 accusing VE? prevention is better cure!!!!!!! so.. that magnetic sh!t can prevent cancer? can prevent AIDS? like that hospital close down already. can prevent stroke? can prevent what esle? when people get old, still will confirm get illness and die. can that magnetic sh!t of yours prevent all the illnesses? if no, why spend over $2000 go buy? VE just sucked man! so what can drinking that cal ion water do? give you energy? calcium? don have to drink milk? but the bottle 600ml cost $1.60. i might as well buy milk which cost $2.20 and can get 2. drinking long term milk is better than your cal ion water. That calstart water filter? you think people will buy? its because they are persuaded by their kids or relatives. So by giving them 'face' then they buy. you think its your product good? you think after you share with the others about VE product, they will help you spread or share with others? they don't give a f**k about it. And you're using this "sharing" to brainwash the kids in VE. telling them is not money you guys are looking for, but benefitting them. ha.ha (O.O) .l..
STOP BRAINWASHING SINGAPORE'S KIDS!! THEY ARE SINGAPORE FUTURE!! DON'T RUIN THEM! PLEASE STOP ALL YOUR WICKED DEEDS! -
Originally posted by X999:
I will just highlight the part in RED.
Agreed! why resort to this underhand tactic? no shame at all! in VE they teach you how to con people and be greedy. See that AlessandroTan's posting? look how he said?say VE until so good like that. if so good, why is there 9 : 1 accusing VE? [b]prevention is better cure!!!!!!! so.. that magnetic sh!t can prevent cancer? can prevent AIDS? like that hospital close down already. can prevent stroke? can prevent what esle? when people get old, still will confirm get illness and die. can that magnetic sh!t of yours prevent all the illnesses? if no, why spend over $2000 go buy? VE just sucked man! so what can drinking that cal ion water do? give you energy? calcium? don have to drink milk? but the bottle 600ml cost $1.60. i might as well buy milk which cost $2.20 and can get 2. drinking long term milk is better than your cal ion water. That calstart water filter? you think people will buy? its because they are persuaded by their kids or relatives. So by giving them 'face' then they buy. you think its your product good? you think after you share with the others about VE product, they will help you spread or share with others? they don't give a f**k about it. And you're using this "sharing" to brainwash the kids in VE. telling them is not money you guys are looking for, but benefitting them. ha.ha (O.O) .l..
STOP BRAINWASHING SINGAPORE'S KIDS!! THEY ARE SINGAPORE FUTURE!! DON'T RUIN THEM! PLEASE STOP ALL YOUR WICKED DEEDS![/b]
For a product to be claiming to have certain HEALING/PREVENTION Properties, they MUST HAVE CERTIFICATES from the govt to back up their claims.
If they don't have, we can just ignore their sharing and need to even think about their claims for it's not tested and proven to have such claims. -
Alessandro, are u a numbskull or what? U're just repeating urself over and over again. CAN U STOP QUOTING UR DUMB OTO/OSIM EXAMPLE!? It's irritating me. And I'm reading lesser and lesser of ur posts each time u post. It's really incoherent and a total mess. Better to relax my brain than go thru ur gibberish.
I dun care whether or not MLM is a sensitive word to Singaporeans. The fact that VE is conducting official phonecall recruitment, means it has to be totally truthful and legal, or else it could be potentially sued to court. I HOPE U UNDERSTAND THIS POINT ABOUT LAW AND LEGALISM BEFORE U MENTION ONE MORE OF UR GIBBERISH ANALOGIES. And I shan't judge on Amway cos' I wasn't approached by them before, but pls stop quoting them. It's really dumb, and I mean really. Deal with ur own company's policies.
As to ur issue about VE having professional product consultant, please, I met ur 'managers' and ur 'presenters' before. I was expecting at least a slightly matured manager to speak to me. Can u imagine how insulted when this 'manager' came into the room and acted like some real boss, when he haven't even taste Tekong's soil la.
Ok la, maybe they aren't the 'professional product consultants' u are talking about. I dun care what titles u give urselves la. If they're so 'professional', why does VE rely on young punks to promote their products, instead of those 'professionals' to conduct a mass talk to promote ur products, as well as a positive image for ur company? Why are they hiding behind the scenes? Too professional to deal with us, is it?
Friend, it's time to learn the correct definitions of 'manufacturer', 'researcher' and 'distributor'. The 'researcher' came up with ur VE products, then he gives the manufacturing plan to the 'manufacturer', and then the final products go to VE, the 'distributor'. Pls, if VE researches its own products, I would have seen laboratories and factory lines in ur office, instead of a few 'bai swee' office space and alot of well-dressed young punks. -
Yes, i agree. why are all those young punks the one presenting? who even have problems with their english, like you? please, you guys get the so-called 'manager' is through money and relations with your relatives or friends. is it you that really worked your way up? or pleading your relatives to support you? thats no business, you don rely on them. if your products is f*cking good, why is there still many people aiming about VE? and no one praise about VE? am i right? reflect on yourself please before replying. thank you very much.
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WHY YOU DON ASK YOUR MOM AND DAD TO JOIN?
u go 1 round 2 shoot me--->My dad n my mum cannot join becos they
had little education!!!!!!!!!!!furthermore,they dun understand chim eng
n science n etc.
oh ya that post, it is because your parents would not believe in it. don tell me your parents don understand chinese? or you malay? still can use malay right? your sir name Tan, cannot be malay. Ok, about science. All you need is just read and know about the products which you guys had complied in a file or something. what kind of science knowledge you need? VE there about 80% all school dropped out. know what about science? primary school science? tell the primary school kids and pyscho them. they in future will join you to "Venture" in the new "Era". Ha. Ha. thats dumb. Ok. so what science knowlege do you need? you just need to persuade your targets and practice your speech. all the product knowlegde, your VE will supply you right? so get your parents down? they can join together with you to Venture in this new Era. thats fun ya? go try. so the 3 of you can make big bucks and drive 3 cars. can race with your dad too. hahhahahahha -
Sometimes i really want to reply, but i really really dont know what the heck people are saying
Geez -
who you mean? me?
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2 x999
prevention is better cure!!!!!!! so.. that magnetic sh!t can prevent cancer? can prevent AIDS? like that hospital close down already. can prevent stroke? can prevent what esle? when people get old, still will confirm get illness and die. can that magnetic sh!t of yours prevent all the illnesses?
Pardon me 4 saying dis.If u dun know anything about magnetic theray.PLZ DUN TRY 2 BE SMART ALEC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Source: San-Ikukai Hospital, Tokyo Communications Hospital,
Kouseikai Suzuki Hospital
Testing by: Dr. Kazuo Shimodaira, 1990
Conclusion: Magnetic mattress pad use proved to be effective on
neck and shoulder pain, back and lower back pain, lower limb
pain, insomnia, and fatigue and to have no side effects
source : http://www.magnadreampad.com/mpad_clinical_study.htm
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"The application of a magnetic field has the virtues of simplicity, freedom from danger and low cost. It offers the lay man or woman a suitable form of self treatment for the minor ills of everyday life."
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There's a artcle on public killer on the loose.
source :2day newspper.fri nov 17 2006
Recent research demonstrates that 90% of illness are stress-related
In short,if we reduce yr stress level,there's a lower of chance of
getting stress-related illness,AM I CORRECT 2 SAY DIS????
As 4 the company,wat u seen is the bad side of it.
like a coin,it'd 2 sides!!!! -
here i see one big bloody round of people mentioning magnetic therapy and all sorts of rubbish again.
yeah they may be effective i dont know.
but i still dont get that bloody answer of why..
why.. why..
why.. why..
why.. why..
WHY.
those people from VE have to
FORCE people to join their company.
yes. they may have OPTIONS.
they can choose whether to join.
but they are still persuaded, urged, encouraged, asked, begged
to join right?
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haha...been a while. So many nonsense.
Okok, well, all I can say is....If lotza pple think VE is a scam company...we're forcing relatives to buy, we prey on youngsters...we use "underhand tactics"....we bring someone to the staircase and torture them...we electric chair pple...we poison our customer food with "deception potion"....well so be it! Im happy being in one of the best local NM companies ive seen and I just recently collect a nice real nice pay together with a few of my downlines and we're heading out for some nice food soon.
I'll close this topic soon, saying this to all idiots out there. Time will tell, if Venture Era closes down, I go jail or I go broke....I promise you, I shall reveal who I am for you to mock me and label me the idiot. But as long as I have good money, I have happy customers and my guys are collecting good money, rest assured; VE will grow so big, one day you'd have to bite your tongue more then once thinking...what was I thinking fool! And don worry, if what ure thinkin is right, I thoroughly enjoy earning money from YOU! and of course all the poor youngsters ive "preyed on" whom now are collecting nice 4-5k paychecks....poor them...what were they thinking?! they are making the biggest mistakes of their lives! oh no..what happens if they take out a beemer?! Really...poor customers...their skin must be rotting sleeping on the magnetic therapy...and those poor alkaline water drinking pple....THeir "stomach acid" must have neautralised so much alkaline...they wonder if they are shitting soo much acid all of a sudden! OH NO! they could be dead by now. Hey! no what? soon you'll see pple getting hancuffed outta tt old MDIS building...poor VE souls! May they continue scamming and earning and selling products and believing they're entreprenuers when they drive their cabriolet beemer. Hee hee.
For the rest of you...as long as you are doing NM, no matter what company...as long as you feel you're doing it legally with full conscience of your heart (you guys are smart pple! yea..ure networkers!) keep don it! Ya guys are the pioneers of the industry. Dun worry...when you drive your beemer and you retire "young and rich"....mightyiceboy n flamboy n tibsBus n wisemanlaurence will come knocking on your door wearing a police uniform with a handcuff saying "hey networker! ure under arrest!" "FOR WHAT?!" "for being rich and young and driving a beemer and making others rich with you and making stomach acids neuatralise all the alkaline in your body!"
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best wishes
Corwin -
oh yea...n for the dunno-who who posted abt the stomach acid thing.......lol...i got a good laugh. All rite..VE fault for not teaching u properly. (HEY! AntiVE pple! look! VE has a fault! quick! Fire in the hole!)
Stomach acid...neautralise all the alkaline.....lol. I wonder why evian have not when bankrupt. Look, if u did proper research, yoiu should study neautralization and how it works. Yes there is neatralization being done..but relaxed, the body aint able to detect ionic calcium as alkaline so long as its fluid form. As it passes through your stomach, to your intestines, there will be so little fluid then that the body absorbs alot of ionic calcium into the intestine. Idiot...if stomach acid neuatralise all the alkaline why the hell are we eating fruits n vegatables?! won all the acid neutralise every single vitamins n minerals (wait! dont you know they flow in alkaline fluids? you don? stupid u..) that you wonder...god should haf put the intestine ahead of the stomach!
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corwin -
yayaya, whatever you said. go make whatever dirty money you want. go drive whatever BM or some sh!t cars. so ? big fu*ck is it? rich so what? you wan rich your problem, why go psycho the youngster out there who are just looking for part-time job during the vaccation? you say until so easy having $4k-5k paycheck. Bullsh!t. all you said, who knows its truth? what proof you have? i say i earning $20,000 per mth as a drop-out from school. you believe? at least soccer players, whatever they earning, the whole world knows how much it is. VE? who the fu*ck know about this? who believe you can earn $4-$5k by this? got proof? if have, show us? if so easy, the whole singapore are driving BMs, earning $4-$5k at the age below 20? Singapore currency will be larger than pounds i guess? There will not be poor people in Singapore anymore. so the GNP per capita of Singapore will be the highest among the world? am i right? and you guys in VE, are earning through your familes', relatives' and friends' hard earned money AND have no sense of guilty at all but still feel proud, cause you are benfitting and sharing with them???
ha.... ha... ha... dumb. Want them buy just say lor, don need act one. the real motive is still wan make money through getting them to buy. they don buy, you all no sales, no sales means no money. right? scammers! -
To AlessandroTan
Oh? So? i don know anything, so please enlighten me how it can do wonders? okay, since its so good. how many people in Singapore are using it? 4 million people of Singapore? O.O