Venture Era - a defending point of view.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
Frankly, having spent few years mixing with them, they would not be able to provide you an answer. The struggles they have, the significant rate of failures, the low standard of professionalism makes the industry what it is today, what we Chinese called 'guo jie lau shu'
I did hope they would raise the standards equal to any other industry in the world, but there is a persistent drive not to do so. You see his posts, its still the same as the agents I lambasted on the first page of this topic.
Repeat so many times. Shot down their ideologies so many times till they dun post anymore, then a newcomer comes again and post the same ideologies all over again to be shot down
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I also noticed.
MLM is the only topic that "new" registered posters keep coming in to defend their ideologies, disappear and then "new" ones come in again.
This is interesting topic for psychology / sociology studies.
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can we finish this by today??
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Originally posted by charlize:
Hey, let the guy do what he wants to do lah.
When you all keep telling him to quit MLM or that MLM is a road to nowhere, it only gives him the resolve to stick on (until he learns the painful truth himself later on in life). That's one of the techniques that MLM "managers" or "mentors" tell their charges to screw with their minds - keep telling them the rest of the people are jealous of their success, will want to bring you down, criticise you etc. And that sticking to their MLM beliefs shows strength of character. yada yada.
A lot of these young impressionable teens think they will be the next millionaire because they have been bombarded with all these "get rich if you just stick to the MLM course" messages. Just let them learn it the hard way lah.
Firstly, I think that this is very enlightening. It really has brought in another perspective and I feel that it is valid. Now I can go and test my mentor to see if he really is screwing with my mind.
Secondly, I will not disappear. I will still be here posting my thoughts until when I go army. By then even if I want to post I also cannot, cause weekends are so precious that I might not even want to play dota or use the computer when I am out from camp.
Thirdly, maybe many youngsters think that school certs are useless. To me that is bullshit too. Without a proper degree or diploma, you can go nowhere. Maybe some job that gives you 1-2k a month, but never more. People can follow the footsteps of Bill Gates or Warren Buffett, but is one as determined as them?
And yup my associate leader showed me his paycheck. Disgusting.
Hmm why am I MichaelJohn now? -
Originally posted by laurence82:
can we finish this by today??
I feel that you are very rude by posting this sentence. Please give me some respect no matter how lack of depth or immature you think I am.
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Originally posted by Michaeljohn89:
Firstly, I think that this is very enlightening. It really has brought in another perspective and I feel that it is valid. Now I can go and test my mentor to see if he really is screwing with my mind.
Secondly, I will not disappear. I will still be here posting my thoughts until when I go army. By then even if I want to post I also cannot, cause weekends are so precious that I might not even want to play dota or use the computer when I am out from camp.
Thirdly, maybe many youngsters think that school certs are useless. To me that is bullshit too. Without a proper degree or diploma, you can go nowhere. Maybe some job that gives you 1-2k a month, but never more. People can follow the footsteps of Bill Gates or Warren Buffett, but is one as determined as them?
And yup my associate leader showed me his paycheck. Disgusting.
Hmm why am I MichaelJohn now?Wah.
Another new registered poster.
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
I feel that you are very rude by posting this sentence. Please give me some respect no matter how lack of depth or immature you think I am.
Nope. This sentence is not rude, hence your reason is null and void.
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No No michaeljohn is me but I dno why I am called michaeljohn.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Wah.
Another new registered poster.
tmd, eh, give me 4 numbers!
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Originally posted by laurence82:
Nope. This sentence is not rude, hence your reason is null and void.
Obviously you feel otherwise. A drunk person would not say that he is drunk.
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
I feel that you are very rude by posting this sentence. Please give me some respect no matter how lack of depth or immature you think I am.
FYI
This is sgforums speech. What he meant was that whether we can reach 81 pages today. Forum rules dictate that when a thread reaches 81 pages, it will be locked.
Hence, the statement: "can we finish this by today"
It is a common statement used in other long running threads as well
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Originally posted by eagle:
FYI
This is sgforums speech. What he meant was that whether we can reach 81 pages today. Forum rules dictate that when a thread reaches 81 pages, it will be locked.
Hence, the statement: "can we finish this by today"
It is a common statement used in other long running threads as well
Now he has to eat his words
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
Obviously you feel otherwise. A drunk person would not say that he is drunk.
or a misleaded MLMer wouldnt say he is misleaded
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You see a big paycheck because your leader is the one at the top of the pyramid.
He depends on you to go recruit more people to make money for him while he shakes his leg.
I am going to stop here.
I don't want to waste my time explaining and repeating myself over and over again because at the end of the day, you will still believe whatever your upline "manager" tells you.
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Originally posted by Michaeljohn89:
Firstly, I think that this is very enlightening. It really has brought in another perspective and I feel that it is valid. Now I can go and test my mentor to see if he really is screwing with my mind.
Secondly, I will not disappear. I will still be here posting my thoughts until when I go army. By then even if I want to post I also cannot, cause weekends are so precious that I might not even want to play dota or use the computer when I am out from camp.
Thirdly, maybe many youngsters think that school certs are useless. To me that is bullshit too. Without a proper degree or diploma, you can go nowhere. Maybe some job that gives you 1-2k a month, but never more. People can follow the footsteps of Bill Gates or Warren Buffett, but is one as determined as them?
And yup my associate leader showed me his paycheck. Disgusting.
Hmm why am I MichaelJohn now?So far from your posts, I can conclude that you are in it because you think there is potential in earning lots of $$ from it.
Let's just say
For tuitioning as a part time job, there are quite a number out there earning 5 figures. And especially for physics.com.sg, he earns >20k monthly, working only 2 hours a day for 4 of the weekdays, and 4 hours a day for both weekends.
So why not be a tutor?
Is that a big paycheck?
Or how about Adam Wong, an internet marketer who proclaimed that he is earning USD21k monthly at 25 yrs old by working only 4 hrs a day, and endorsed by Adam Khoo
So why not be an internet marketer?
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Originally posted by eagle:
FYI
This is sgforums speech. What he meant was that whether we can reach 81 pages today. Forum rules dictate that when a thread reaches 81 pages, it will be locked.
Hence, the statement: "can we finish this by today"
It is a common statement used in other long running threads as well
oh i see. den laurence82, i asked for your forgiveness. I thought you meant "hey I am getting irritated by this guy, so can we finish this by today?".
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
oh i see. den laurence82, i asked for your forgiveness. I thought you meant "hey I am getting irritated by this guy, so can we finish this by today?".
well, also can mean this way, i dun mind
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Originally posted by laurence82:
well, also can mean this way, i dun mind
In that case that would be rude.
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Originally posted by eagle:
So far from your posts, I can conclude that you are in it because you think there is potential in earning lots of $$ from it.
Let's just say
For tuitioning as a part time job, there are quite a number out there earning 5 figures. And especially for physics.com.sg, he earns >20k monthly, working only 2 hours a day for 4 of the weekdays, and 4 hours a day for both weekends.
It is always the potential of earning money that attracts people to MLM.
Yes, everybody loves money.
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
In that case that would be rude.
u care, not me
like others pointed out, why carry on a discussion that has been concluded long time ago?
there is no new point from you, so......*shrugs*
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Originally posted by charlize:
You see a big paycheck because your leader is the one at the top of the pyramid.
He depends on you to go recruit more people to make money for him while he shakes his leg.
I am going to stop here.
I don't want to waste my time explaining and repeating myself over and over again because at the end of the day, you will still believe whatever your upline "manager" tells you.
No what. I believed that the point that you made jus now is valid.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
u care, not me
like others pointed out, why carry on a discussion that has been concluded long time ago?
there is no new point from you, so......*shrugs*
Well I felt that by suggesting a reason why there are black sheep would help in the discussion and I thought that no one suggested it before.
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Originally posted by charlize:
It is always the potential of earning money that attracts people to MLM.
Yes, everybody loves money.
I could go on and on about examples
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Originally posted by laurence82:
can we finish this by today??
Do you think we should start part 2?
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Originally posted by laurence82:
u care, not me
like others pointed out, why carry on a discussion that has been concluded long time ago?
there is no new point from you, so......*shrugs*
Oh and your u care, not me sentence is like huh? How can one be so unfeeling. It's a total who cares attitude.