Venture Era - a defending point of view.
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Dear VE distributors and friends,
We are just like playing music to cows, the cows just wont appreciate us.
There are many times we want to show them the whole picture, but I think not everyone is sincere to want to know. They think they are too "smart" to know more or just showing off how "good" is their arguement skill.
However, we should love them for their contribution to the society because without them, we won't understand the word "ignorant".
Hanging with ignorant people will only waste our time. I urge we use our time wisely on our customers and associates instead.
3 Cheers for VE !
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Oh? okay, be the top 10 richest men in singapore then? give you your name. i will comment in newspaper if you did that.
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Give me a statistical report of the income of the ve sellers. Those who earn less than 1000 a mth, 200 a mth, and so on.
What is the probability of hitting at 5K or 20K commission per month? A property agent can do that too, taking arounnd 3% of the selling price. A painter can invest in only paints, canvases and easels, and can sell paintings for $80 million USD (world record) or a 'normal' $1M or even few thousands dollars.
What is in question is probability. -
This is the common fault of most direct selling agents, if not MLMersOriginally posted by enquiries:Dear VE distributors and friends,
We are just like playing music to cows, the cows just wont appreciate us.
There are many times we want to show them the whole picture, but I think not everyone is sincere to want to know. They think they are too "smart" to know more or just showing off how "good" is their arguement skill.
However, we should love them for their contribution to the society because without them, we won't understand the word "ignorant".
Hanging with ignorant people will only waste our time. I urge we use our time wisely on our customers and associates instead.
3 Cheers for VE !
Once confronted with issues or questions that could potentially throw open the skeletons out of the closet, the only way out is some ra-ra talk which amounts to nothing.
I would love to see any company in the corporate world out there doing this, for example, Ribena, when it was exposed that their Ribena is nothing but sugary drink -
Yes, i agree. please reply, come on VE.
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Read most of the replies in this thread. Some background info of myself regarding VE: been to the presentations and stuff, did not join, neutral stand, have some friends in VE and some against VE. Info regarding VE gotten from VE friends.
From VE friends
Something the managers (especially during motivational talks by BGMs/SBGMs) always emphasize on is to encourage agents to DUPLICATE their uplines. Just follow whatever they're told to do, and whatever their uplines do.
My Opinions
Perhaps this is main cause of the "admin job" lie that most anti-VE people here are unhappy about.
Agree with this part on lying. If there's nothing to hide, if it's a legitimate way of running a business, why lie?
My family is currently footing bills for a cancer patient in the family and I know how much we're paying. Honestly, comparing the hospital bills with the prices of VE products, the amount of money we spent on the bills can buy a few sets of the entire range of VE's products.
If he gets cured and our financial status goes back to normal, I would opt to spend this S$2k+ on health maintenance for our family. Cliche saying: Prevention is better than cure, but it's true.
Put it this way... It all depends on how optimistic you are.
Being optimistic, compare the amount of money spent on curing a disease and health maintenance, you'd definitely opt for the latter. It'll be like, "just try lor... looking at SG's pollution rate, better than doing nothing ma... if really works then gd lor, if don't work then nvm..at least we know what to say to our relatives now..."
Pessimism induces this: "wa siao ah $2k to fix this thing on our water pipe then dunno guarantee will work anot.. i use the $2k buy more fruits and vege better..."
My humble suggestion to all VE distributors: perhaps you should check your / your downlines' phone techniques. -
for rookies or people who have never being to VE,Originally posted by Terravolver:Read most of the replies in this thread. Some background info of myself regarding VE: been to the presentations and stuff, did not join, neutral stand, have some friends in VE and some against VE. Info regarding VE gotten from VE friends.
From VE friends
Something the managers (especially during motivational talks by BGMs/SBGMs) always emphasize on is to encourage agents to DUPLICATE their uplines. Just follow whatever they're told to do, and whatever their uplines do.
My Opinions
Perhaps this is main cause of the "admin job" lie that most anti-VE people here are unhappy about.
Agree with this part on lying. If there's nothing to hide, if it's a legitimate way of running a business, why lie?
My family is currently footing bills for a cancer patient in the family and I know how much we're paying. Honestly, comparing the hospital bills with the prices of VE products, the amount of money we spent on the bills can buy a few sets of the entire range of VE's products.
If he gets cured and our financial status goes back to normal, I would opt to spend this S$2k+ on health maintenance for our family. Cliche saying: Prevention is better than cure, but it's true.
Put it this way... It all depends on how optimistic you are.
Being optimistic, compare the amount of money spent on curing a disease and health maintenance, you'd definitely opt for the latter. It'll be like, "just try lor... looking at SG's pollution rate, better than doing nothing ma... if really works then gd lor, if don't work then nvm..at least we know what to say to our relatives now..."
Pessimism induces this: "wa siao ah $2k to fix this thing on our water pipe then dunno guarantee will work anot.. i use the $2k buy more fruits and vege better..."
My humble suggestion to all VE distributors: perhaps you should check your / your downlines' phone techniques.
BGM = Business Group Manager
SBGM = Senior Business Group Manager
my suggestion to you is ask for Scientific Claims and Certificates and Lots of Testimonials before you choose to purchase those products..
A lot of sales people are out there just to push sales coz they earn the commission and once the sales is closed, they will not be bother to explain and follow-up etc coz when we the customers purchase such products like mattress which last from 10yrs-100yrs thus once they sell, they don't expect to sell u another 1, so that's it. no after-sales service which is lacking even in tradditional sales/businesses..
As for the part on lying..they are just desperate for recruitment if not they can't earn, coz mlm companies (majority) are based on Buying In (rank) and not by sales of products..
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Don't tell me you'll be bestowed the rank of Manager just cos you're upline to a few downlines.Originally posted by the_fallen:for rookies or people who have never being to VE,
BGM = Business Group Manager
SBGM = Senior Business Group Manager
I'll also ask for statictal statement of earnings by employees. As I know the income gap is very big. Some making a few K a mth, some struggling to make ends meet. -
Hi, just wanna share some research i did on my own... coz i was also approached by a friend to join VE too..
Not that i am trying to defame VE or watsoever.. but just my 2 cents abt some issues raised in the discussions.... I dun want to state things without quoting sources as it discredit my arguments, so i will try to provide sources if i can.
1) I guess like any other ordinary people who is trying to find out more abt the company we are invited to join, 1st of all we will go to the official website to find out more..
http://www.venture-eragroup.com/ or the so called official site has been mentioned to be under construction/revamp process.. but if u look at the countdown ticker in the site, it seems to be at least under construction for over t+ 206 days since 2007 ( assuming that the ticker was meant for 2007 new year countdown purpose...)
so that avenue is out. and the other ebiz reg just gave some brief and vague description of VE that doesnt help in providing any insights of the company profile..
2) I agree with Lawerence that MLM is a business in aspect that it is exchanging products/services with other parties in exchange for monetary gains.. and the business model is rather successful in the west rather than sg..
I also noticed that Amway was mentioned as a success story to inspire MLM business model locally?
But apart from hearing such success stories from the "unbiased" sources like your fellow NWMers, do u know that Amway was involved in many legal lawsuits as well for their business practices?
Then Amway launched a sister company known as Quixtar that create new wave of controversies..
Below are some videos from youtube showing documentations of investigation into MLM business practices and the hoaxes
Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot31XhgE_XE&mode=related&search=
Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgnvMfDu47c
Did your "unbiased sources" share this with u as well when they inspires u with the many "zeroes" sales figures?
3) I strongly believe (my own person opinion tho) that for a business to be sustainable, the product must be credible and I must BELIEVE in the very product i am selling.
so i did some research again on
a) electromagnetic therapy
So far, there are no concrete evidence that electromagnets improve health conditions.. anyway some simple reasoning that doesnt requires a rocket scientist to understand - Researchers in high-energy physics laboratories can work for hours per day with their whole body immersed in magnetic fields far stronger than those from the bracelets, and there is no evidence they are more or less healthy than their peers.
for more info, u can check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_therapy
b) Calstar Ionized Water
There is inadequate scientific evidence to conclude that alkaline water is beneficial to our health.
Hist summary of Ionized Water: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alkaline_water
Oppositions of Alkaline water: http://www.chem1.com/CQ/ionbunk.html
My take on the whole issues:
The enthusiastic VEers to be blamed? hmm I think they made to think this way and trust their products and leaders, so the response from them to defend their company and product is very natural.. Not that they wanna scam people... but i really think they feel that their products works...
They already invested so much time and efforts into this "entrepreneurship" to pull out i think..
But i feel that they shouldnt label the anti-MLMers "ignorant" and deny the possiblities of that the anti-MLMers might be right... by doing so, arent you being "ignorant" too?
As for whether the products really works.. from the research, i really doubt so, even if people using it claim that it works, it could be due to placebo effects or psychological effects... and not really becoz the product works..
definition of placebo effects in case the 18yrs olds doing MLM doesnt know: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/placebo%20effect
Last point, for me to charge someone a product that I know 80-90%% of the retail price goes into pockets of sales pple as commissions.. and not into R&D/product manufacturing costs is really too shrew for my taste.. so i dun think i am cut out for MLM as well..
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quoted from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_therapy
Scientific tests of magnetic therapy for the treatment of wrist pain from carpal tunnel syndrome and chronic low back pain have concluded that there is no health benefit from magnetic fields in those cases. Blinding of any study into the efficacy of magnetic therapy is problematic as the participants in the study may easily ascertain whether they have been issued with a genuine magnet or a placebo dummy.
So VE? is that true or? please give an answer. proof to us that these magnetic therapy works.
Criticism of magnet therapy focuses on scientific facts about magnets, including that:
The typical magnet used produces insufficient magnetic field to have a lasting effect on muscle tissue, bones, blood vessels, or organs.
Researchers in high-energy physics laboratories can work for hours per day with their whole body immersed in magnetic fields far stronger than those from the bracelets, and there is no evidence they are more or less healthy than their peers.
No magnet healing manufacturer has demonstrated scientifically that its products achieve what they claim, and most cannot agree on what exactly the magnetic fields do.
Some manufacturers claim that the magnets help to circulate the blood by some interaction with the iron in hemoglobin, a major component of red blood cells. However in its ionised form, iron is not ferromagnetic and cannot be affected by magnets.
Others claim that the magnets can restore the body's theorised electromagnetic energy balance. There are also claims that the south pole of a magnet acts differently on the body than the north pole.[citation needed]
Many of the websites that provide information and resources promoting the benefits of magnetic therapy belong to individuals and companies that profit from the sale of magnetic therapy products.
Water is a diamagnetic material, and thus cannot be magnetized. In addition, attempts to sell "north pole" or "south pole" magnetized water to treat different conditions ignore the fact that magnetized ferromagnetic materials inevitably acquire both a north and a south pole; science yet to have found evidence for the existence of magnetic monopoles.
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Hmm..Originally posted by redstone:Don't tell me you'll be bestowed the rank of Manager just cos you're upline to a few downlines.
I'll also ask for statictal statement of earnings by employees. As I know the income gap is very big. Some making a few K a mth, some struggling to make ends meet.
I don't quite understand what you're saying regarding me be bestowed with the mgr rank..
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I mean what does it mean to give employees 'manager' position just because they have a few downlines.Originally posted by the_fallen:Hmm..
I don't quite understand what you're saying regarding me be bestowed with the mgr rank..
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Well, if you think it's about employees and employer in mlm, than I'll not comment more... for it takes lots of explanation before a person can understand, but having tried to explain a couple of times previously in the forum, it seems of no use.. thus in time to come, you will find out more..Originally posted by redstone:I mean what does it mean to give employees 'manager' position just because they have a few downlines.
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that's the problem with you guys, seriously. talking shit about wanting to show us the whole picture but in the end, use this bloody stupid lame excuse that's because NOT EVERYONE IS SINCERE TO KNOW. if you people are even in the first place SINCERE ENOUGH TO PRESENT YOUR FACTS TO US, we would be SINCERE ENOUGH to listen to whatever you want to say.Originally posted by enquiries:Dear VE distributors and friends,
We are just like playing music to cows, the cows just wont appreciate us.
There are many times we want to show them the whole picture, but I think not everyone is sincere to want to know. They think they are too "smart" to know more or just showing off how "good" is their arguement skill.
However, we should love them for their contribution to the society because without them, we won't understand the word "ignorant".
Hanging with ignorant people will only waste our time. I urge we use our time wisely on our customers and associates instead.
3 Cheers for VE !
all this shit about SINCERITY. i dont even think the dictionary can precisely explain the meaning of this word.
for all you know, sgforums is also a channel of communication. high possibility potential customers would browse through this website first before they would even consider venture era. yea there may be an official website for venture era, but for almost a year it hasnt been updated even a single shit.
i dont claim to be smart, neither nor i want to argue with you. but the fact that you guys just want to fool around with our temper and patience simply shows you guys wont be up to any good. no doubt, you people may claim some of us to be ignorant. but in the first place, are you guys' eyes even opened WIDE enough for us to be sure about that?
what a nice way to describe us being cows and you guys being the musicians. -
Huh, why?Originally posted by the_fallen:Well, if you think it's about employees and employer in mlm, than I'll not comment more... for it takes lots of explanation before a person can understand, but having tried to explain a couple of times previously in the forum, it seems of no use.. thus in time to come, you will find out more..
you will understand more about it when 2008 comes..by last quarter of 2008, you will understand what mlm means..
The music is too horrible for anyone, cows or people to listen to.Originally posted by TIB744U:what a nice way to describe us being cows and you guys being the musicians. -
Like I said..Originally posted by redstone:Huh, why?
It requires lot of explanation which is simply difficult to explain it online.
People who know's the difference earlier will stand to gain and people who know the difference in 2008 will not gain as much benefits compared to now.. -
evanescene1976 made a very good post. Pls read that, deluded MLMers, esp. the post came from a neutral party with facts to back his theories up.
And pls, can u guys friggin' answer our questions straight to the friggin' point, instead of beating around the friggin' bush?
I'll make it clear once and for all, and if u can't answer me (or us) straight to the point, I declare that u guys are friggin' hopeless punks in high hopes of driving ur beloved BMW but will never be a reality.
My issues with VE
1) I dun care whether the friggin' products work or not, as opposed to some fellow anti-MLMers here. What I'm concerned with is the gross amount of PROFITS that MLMers would earn from their sales. Even if the product is friggin' GOOD, I doubt I'd pay that much money to line the pockets of 'MANAGERS' shaking legs in the comfort of the office. What justifies the profit of AT LEAST 50%? Is it some world famous well renowned brand, the 'Microsoft' of the health industry world? I doubt so, right?
2) Since VE is a LEGITIMATE company and u guys are actually PROUD of it, why the friggin' hell do ur recruiters LIE to jobseekers thru phonecalls, by not revealing the MLM nature of ur company, and falsely PROMISING them of an admin/call centre job, when it's obviously SALES oriented, at least for the 1st few mths?
It's just as simple as that. Some friggin' idiot called Alessandro still quoted some Japanese company and whatever nonsense sh!t. This thread has spanned 8 pages and u guys are just EVADING the issue by quoting some irrelevant examples from overseas that dun apply to our society. All we want is a straightforward answer. Is it so hard to get it out of ur MOUTH (or hands, since u're typing).
PS: I already highlighted important keywords in CAPS, plus friggin' bold print. If u guys still dun understand why we anti-MLMers hate VE so much, u guys can seriously bang wall. -
Originally posted by MightyFlameboy:
Well said dude... Some mlm agents are all out to promote their company
evanescene1976 made a very good post. Pls read that, deluded MLMers, esp. the post came from a neutral party with facts to back his theories up.
And pls, can u guys friggin' answer our questions straight to the friggin' point, instead of beating around the friggin' bush?
I'll make it clear once and for all, and if u can't answer me (or us) straight to the point, I declare that u guys are friggin' hopeless punks in high hopes of driving ur beloved BMW but will never be a reality.
My issues with VE
1) I dun care whether the friggin' products work or not, as opposed to some fellow anti-MLMers here. What I'm concerned with is the gross amount of [b]PROFITS that MLMers would earn from their sales. Even if the product is friggin' GOOD, I doubt I'd pay that much money to line the pockets of 'MANAGERS' shaking legs in the comfort of the office. What justifies the profit of AT LEAST 50%? Is it some world famous well renowned brand, the 'Microsoft' of the health industry world? I doubt so, right?
2) Since VE is a LEGITIMATE company and u guys are actually PROUD of it, why the friggin' hell do ur recruiters LIE to jobseekers thru phonecalls, by not revealing the MLM nature of ur company, and falsely PROMISING them of an admin/call centre job, when it's obviously SALES oriented, at least for the 1st few mths?
It's just as simple as that. Some friggin' idiot called Alessandro still quoted some Japanese company and whatever nonsense sh!t. This thread has spanned 8 pages and u guys are just EVADING the issue by quoting some irrelevant examples from overseas that dun apply to our society. All we want is a straightforward answer. Is it so hard to get it out of ur MOUTH (or hands, since u're typing).
PS: I already highlighted important keywords in CAPS, plus friggin' bold print. If u guys still dun understand why we anti-MLMers hate VE so much, u guys can seriously bang wall. [/b] -
fuc k VE waste my time go down only
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nellee
is a Young Genkian
It's odd how some people want rewards such as cars without working for it. It's called a reward for a reason, it's to REWARD you for your hardwork and effort. Do you really think there's such a thing as free lunch - or even an easy lunch - in the world? If you want financial freedom or a car (even if it's a cheap car) you gotta work for it. Let me ask you, at the age of 18 with at the most an A level cert, or let's say you're fabulous, you're 21 with a degree. Imagine going that path and then let me ask you,
When're you going to be driving a BMW or a Mercs, living in a bungalow with enough money to go on holidays on whim?
When you're sixty and dying? To feeble to take a plane?
Or maybe you dream that you'll be like those people who set up a business - your usual rags to riches story - and become successful seemingly overnight?
Let me laugh at you before I continue. Do you realize that those people are one in maybe a few hundred thousand?
Or maybe your parents are filthy rich and they GIVE you a BMV. Wow. But when people ask you, how'd you get your car? "Oh, my parents gave it to me." What will people think of you? Three words: Spoilt. Rich. KID.
People doubt companies like Venture Era because they say "Oh, because of this MLM company, I neglect my studies." Oh, I'm sorry, did the managers say, "YOU BETTER STOP STUDYING AND GIVE YOUR FULL ATTENTION TO VENTURE ERA." No, right? It's your own choice (subconcious or not) and your own lousy time management.
Now I'm not saying that working at MLM companies (in particular Venture Era, because I'm a distributor there) is not time consuming. I will not lie, it is. It's tiring and stressful too. But come on, no pain, no gain.
Look at all the people slogging away in their 9 to 5 jobs, attempting to climb the corporate ladder before being dragged down with several knives in their back. Is that not tiring? Stressful? Time consuming?
Life is not so easy! Come on. Working in a 9 to 5 job for, say, 30 years is easier? Gives you more rewards that Venture Era? Gets you a BMW? Gives you a holiday to the Bahamas?
Now i'm not saying that it's the ONLY way to financial freedom. You can be a neuro surgeon, or a litigator or an auditor. Or maybe even the president. OF COURSE you'll have a lot of money and cars and things, but the question is, do you have what it takes to be them?
If you do, good! I genuinely respect these people. They're brilliant and capable people. And I'm sure they'll have their BMWs at the very least by the time they're 40? So in a few years, when you guys turn 40 and I turn 21, we can finally drive our BMWs together eh?
But what if you don't have what it takes to be them? Then what do you do?
Venture Era is offering people an EASIER route to acheiving your car, residual income, financial freedom, PURELY, because it's a pioneering company. It's been around for 6 years and is still going strong. It's still considered young! THAT, my dear friends, is why it is EASIER and POSSIBLE (as seen by the 25 car achievers) to get your car at such a young age! Try joining an MLM company that's been around for say, 40 years? By the time you reach your deathbed, you'd still be a few decades away from achieving their incentives. Why? BECAUSE THEY'RE ESTABLISHED!
I have one last point to cover. Ah, finally my long post is coming to an end.
Now, people say Venture Era is about force selling and that being in the company alienates friends and family. Blame your managers all you want, but ultimately, who is the one calling your friends and family? Who's the one talking to them and asking them to come down? Darlings, it's the WAY you approach them. Learn some tact and maybe then you'll still have your family and friends.
If you're not willing to give Venture Era a chance based on GOSSIP you've heard, then I say, your loss. Read up about it from NON BIASED sources and listen to your own common sense. Only losers can't judge by themselves. And only losers and listen blindly to what the other losers say.
So I'll wave to you while you're walking home in the middle of the night and I'm honking the horn in my very own BMW. Ah, I love the smell of leather seats in a brand spanking new car.
What crap.... ok... financial freedom.
Let's say you've got no sales for the whole month = no income? Financial freedom? How? I wonder? Can anyone tell me? -
Haha, who's typed that post that u quoted? I gotta give him credit for typing a vaguely intelligent post, coming from an MLMer. He has a unique way of hiding his intentions in his post, and I initially thought he was an anti-MLMer at the starting of the post, then he typed on to show his true MLM nature.
Yea, MLMers indeed have financial freedom. Whenever they need the money, they go dupe some relative or friend to buy their grossly overpriced products. Whenever they dun need, they just shake leg in office! Ahahaha, is that considered 'financial freedom'?
Honking us from his BMW huh? How about us anti-VEers issue a dare to him to meet us up with his 'spanking new' BMW? Hahaha! His head is too big for himself, man!
And addressing directly to the crux of the matter, VE peeps, I thought u guys were so enthusiastic talking about the integrity and success of ur company in the last few posts? Why u guys still haven't reply to my queries yet? Pls do reply asap, and pls, no more bullshit analogies of OTO/Osim or whatever fark company in the world. I want to know more abt VE, and VE ONLY.
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Originally posted by MightyFlameboy:
Oh, something I found from Oh Genki forums
Haha, who's typed that post that u quoted? I gotta give him credit for typing a vaguely intelligent post, coming from an MLMer. He has a unique way of hiding his intentions in his post, and I initially thought he was an anti-MLMer at the starting of the post, then he typed on to show his true MLM nature.
Yea, MLMers indeed have financial freedom. Whenever they need the money, they go dupe some relative or friend to buy their grossly overpriced products. Whenever they dun need, they just shake leg in office! Ahahaha, is that considered 'financial freedom'?
Honking us from his BMW huh? How about us anti-VEers issue a dare to him to meet us up with his 'spanking new' BMW? Hahaha! His head is too big for himself, man!
And addressing directly to the crux of the matter, VE peeps, I thought u guys were so enthusiastic talking about the integrity and success of ur company in the last few posts? Why u guys still haven't reply to my queries yet? Pls do reply asap, and pls, no more bullshit analogies of OTO/Osim or whatever fark company in the world. I want to know more abt VE, and VE [b]ONLY.
I'm waiting. [/b]
Typical, posters who reg just to defend their mlm company and vanish forever a short time later. Machiam guerrilla marketing and advertising.
I can see structure in their debates... seems lots of psychology involved. -
whoever made the post in Oh Genki forums, made one very small but stupendously significant mistake common in the MLM world
that the chef forgets who pay his salary, as the saying goes
MLM, or whatever schemes there are, will never prosper without support from the consumers or the public, and that while financial status of the consumers and general public will remain status quo when they do not participate in the scheme, the same cannot be said for the affliates or distributors of the companies, who had already invested heavily, time and money, into the schemes
which is why, in any professional corporate setting, you will never rail or rant at the consumers or clients or prospects
strangely, except for the usual bad customer service we get from shops and service providers, MLM industry got to be the only industry where i see significant number of distributors dare to rant at prospects, at their own expense
talk about ultimate stupidity -
I've worked in retail before.Originally posted by laurence82:whoever made the post in Oh Genki forums, made one very small but stupendously significant mistake common in the MLM world
that the chef forgets who pay his salary, as the saying goes
MLM, or whatever schemes there are, will never prosper without support from the consumers or the public, and that while financial status of the consumers and general public will remain status quo when they do not participate in the scheme, the same cannot be said for the affliates or distributors of the companies, who had already invested heavily, time and money, into the schemes
which is why, in any professional corporate setting, you will never rail or rant at the consumers or clients or prospects
strangely, except for the usual bad customer service we get from shops and service providers, MLM industry got to be the only industry where i see significant number of distributors dare to rant at prospects, at their own expense
talk about ultimate stupidity
The standard rules, intergrity, ethics. No lying, no misleading customer. No force selling. No insulting customer, etc...
I see how mlmers psycho u...
1) Make u question your future.
2) First they 'insult' your future
3) Then they make you think that $ is everything in life
4) that the top MLMers are doing so.
5) Knowing you morale might had been put down by steps 1 - 4, they assure u, comfort u that MLM is sure way to success
6) Show u examples of 'success stories' and how 'mlm changed their lives'
7) Intro u to 'managers'
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Haha that's right. They're forgetting who gives them bread on their table everyday. That's the consumers, or rather in the case of MLM, blind supportive friends and family. They're so quick to boast about their new car or salary rise, but seldom give thanks to all the attributing factors to their success.
And I'm kinda bored. Where are those VE peeps? Thought u guys love ur company so much, tt u guys must defend it till the death. Can u guys pls answer my questions straight to the point? Or u guys dun even dare to do so? Zzz...
As far as I know, the recent testimony of a phonecall scam seem to be a month ago (in the case of X999). Which I believe should be still continuing. I really hope someone with law background can bring the shady dealings of this darn company to light.