Venture Era - a defending point of view.
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
Well I felt that by suggesting a reason why there are black sheep would help in the discussion and I thought that no one suggested it before.
corwin beats you to it and i have made my replies
and when you did, we have made our replies
i dont see how after so many years VE still has an issue of blacksheeps, besides blacksheeps is a reflection of lack of internal control
simply means, VE has a problem and blacksheeps is no longer a side issue, i wonder how you can even promote VE
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Originally posted by eagle:
Do you think we should start part 2?
and repeat the cycles?
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
Oh and your u care, not me sentence is like huh? How can one be so unfeeling. It's a total who cares attitude.
like i said, its an unfeeling world in the corporate world
prove by substance, not appeal by emotions
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Originally posted by laurence82:
corwin beats you to it and i have made my replies
and when you did, we have made our replies
i dont see how after so many years VE still has an issue of blacksheeps, besides blacksheeps is a reflection of lack of internal control
simply means, VE has a problem and blacksheeps is no longer a side issue, i wonder how you can even promote VE
the problem is with the culture of the company and overpriced products
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Originally posted by eagle:
So far from your posts, I can conclude that you are in it because you think there is potential in earning lots of $$ from it.
Let's just say
For tuitioning as a part time job, there are quite a number out there earning 5 figures. And especially for physics.com.sg, he earns >20k monthly, working only 2 hours a day for 4 of the weekdays, and 4 hours a day for both weekends.
So why not be a tutor?
Is that a big paycheck?
Or how about Adam Wong, an internet marketer who proclaimed that he is earning USD21k monthly at 25 yrs old by working only 4 hrs a day, and endorsed by Adam Khoo
So why not be an internet marketer?
Well i tried tuitioning for two years when i was in jc. Worked 8 hours a week, and I get close to 800 a month. It was good money, but I stopped as teaching was not really my cup of tea.
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
the problem is with the culture of the company and overpriced products
Most MLMs is never about the products but making money from your downlines.
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Originally posted by charlize:
Most MLMs is never about the products but making money from your downlines.
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But well MLM is really a nice experience. There are definitely things that one can learn. And when one is young one should try as many different jobs as possible.
And I think why black sheep are still around because no one really cares. The people up there that can make some serious change are too preoccupied with earning money. -
Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
Well i tried tuitioning for two years when i was in jc. Worked 8 hours a week, and I get close to 800 a month. It was good money, but I stopped as teaching was not really my cup of tea.
I assume you are going to uni
You should perhaps continue with 1 or 2 students during later part of NS to help you refresh your memory constantly while earning some income at the same time
It will benefit you extremely well when you enter uni in the first semester. That was the semester I went in and did a perfect score with the maximum number of modules I could go in a semester, 1 more than most others, and still had time for 2 more students while still exercising 5 days a week. My NS friends were telling me I was mad, and it would affect my results because 2 years of NS will have made me rusty.
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
the problem is with the culture of the company and overpriced products
Not overpriced how to give commissions to multiple levels
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Originally posted by laurence82:
like i said, its an unfeeling world in the corporate world
prove by substance, not appeal by emotions
But I still believe that values like integrity and trust will be good, if not paramount to being successful. That is to have substance and also integrity
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
But well MLM is really a nice experience. There are definitely things that one can learn. And when one is young one should try as many different jobs as possible.
And I think why black sheep are still around because no one really cares. The people up there that can make some serious change are too preoccupied with earning money.Hmmm
more occupied with earning money
reminds of Sunshine Empire
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Originally posted by eagle:
Not overpriced how to give commissions to multiple levels
The smart thing about their price is that they get products that no one else sells. So you cant really compare.
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Originally posted by eagle:
Hmmm
more occupied with earning money
reminds of Sunshine Empire
Ya but we cannot comment when we have never reach their position. Perhaps they have troubles that we never thought of. and Sunshine Empire was a scheme that will fall apart right from the beginning. And i believe that sunshine empire and Venture Era is completely different. At least one is legit (so far) and has products to sell.
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MLM is good!
Multi Level Moaning
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Most sharp streetsmart people I know never join MLM
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Originally posted by eagle:
I assume you are going to uni
You should perhaps continue with 1 or 2 students during later part of NS to help you refresh your memory constantly while earning some income at the same time
It will benefit you extremely well when you enter uni in the first semester. That was the semester I went in and did a perfect score with the maximum number of modules I could go in a semester, 1 more than most others, and still had time for 2 more students while still exercising 5 days a week. My NS friends were telling me I was mad, and it would affect my results because 2 years of NS will have made me rusty.
I am also worried that I will grow stupid when i enter NS. So I make it a point to continue reading all the time.
Another thing is that I plan to take the business course in SMU, so there are hardly subjects that can refresh memory about business course. Or am I wrong? Plus I have other commitments in NS, so continuing teaching my students might make me not have enough time. And what if I got remedial training? -
Originally posted by eagle:
Not overpriced how to give commissions to multiple levels
dangerous words from a salesman
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Originally posted by laurence82:
Most sharp streetsmart people I know never join MLM
A generalization that we can never justify.
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
The smart thing about their price is that they get products that no one else sells. So you cant really compare.
And the reason why conventional companies don't sell those products is because nobody wants to buy them.
If it was a product that really benefited people or there was a demand for it, big MNCs will be squashing the competition to sell it.
MLM companies sell weird crap because the product is never the focus of the business. Just the money from downlines. Get it?
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
But I still believe that values like integrity and trust will be good, if not paramount to being successful. That is to have substance and also integrity
none of your points still support your points that people need to give you or VE a chance
this has been said umpteenth times
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Originally posted by charlize:
And the reason why conventional companies don't sell those products is because nobody wants to buy them.
If it was a product that really benefited people or there was a demand for it, big MNCs will be squashing the competition to sell it.
MLM companies sell weird crap because the product is never the focus of the business. Just the money from downlines. Get it?
damn u beat me to it
but u put it in a better way than I could....
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Originally posted by charlize:
And the reason why conventional companies don't sell those products is because nobody wants to buy them.
If it was a product that really benefited people or there was a demand for it, big MNCs will be squashing the competition to sell it.
MLM companies sell weird crap because the product is never the focus of the business. Just the money from downlines. Get it?
Ya I know that. But what i do not get is why companies have not go into selling magnetic beds. or the Ecoquest Air technology. Magnetic beds are widespread in Japan as I have mentioned. And if it sucked it wouldnt have been widespread.
Ecoquest is very famous in USA. But i do not know why other countries we hardly hear of it. -
Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
A generalization that we can never justify.
Most
What generalisation?
But then again, its a also a fact
Or else the likes of Bill Gates will be in MLM instead
what are the famous people from MLM anyway?
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Originally posted by laurence82:
none of your points still support your points that people need to give you or VE a chance
this has been said umpteenth times
If you need a point why people should give VE a chance. I will say this. And I have said this before already.
Don't judge before you try anything. Try it then judge.