Venture Era - a defending point of view.
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Originally posted by laurence82:
mai xiao xiao
this chap says he wanna go SMU wor
SMU grads can make 4-10K a month.
Why do MLM?
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Originally posted by huzane89:
So therefore, it is okay for VE mlmers to do the same? Have some morals. You know it's wrong, yet you are fine with it. Many MNC firms do it, does it mean almost or all MNCs do it? Those unethical ones are facing rep problems. VE is already in a very bad rep already, so its ok if VE's rep becomes worse?
I am just saying that this might be a sad fact of life. I think that it is likely that everyone that is in the top 1-2% of the income group has done unethnical things before.
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Originally posted by eagle:
SMU wor
starting salary supposedly 4k to 10k wor
u and charlize, nbz
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Dunnoe, but some people say Robert Koyosaki.
But Robert Kiyosaki (I think u spell wrong) says he made it big from property and sound investments wor... in his rich dad poor dad book
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Originally posted by huzane89:
Now is your turn to be really hard working. Out of these 84 pages, elementalangel once put up lots of links regarding the overpriced of VE's products. I think pages of 30-65? Or consult elementalangel for the info. If you really want to know, then ask him personally.
Thanks for the referral. I will read those 30-65 pages. I believe that it would be enlightening.
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thanks guys for the encouragement.
for lim kuang yong. what details do you need?
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Originally posted by charlize:
SMU grads can make 4-10K a month.
Why do MLM?
You understand me so quick
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Originally posted by Herzog_Zwei:
Dunnoe, but some people say Robert Koyosaki.erm, dun think RY is actively involved in mlm as a distributor.
In his bk abt network marketing, he specifically highlighted he is not an active distributor in any, he uses only some of their products and give talks when invited for a fee.
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Originally posted by fudgester:
I also stick to my stand. If you want to sell something, then you have to be prepared to address your customers who may well know more than you. If a customer who knows all about magnetism asks you 'So... exactly how does magnetic therapy work? Does it magnetise the blood or something?', then you had better be prepared to address him.
Ask your advisor as to how the magnetic therapy and air system works. Ask for hard scientific proof of how they work, and not just anecdotal evidence like customer testimonials.
If and when you do go to university, you will see that such anecdotal evidence will never hold in the absence of valid proof like controlled experiments and well-documented simulations. Your professor will just ask you 'So what?' and continue to bombard you because he knows better, and you haven't showed him that you know something that he doesn't.
If you want to know, both Eagle and I are engineers as well, by the way. We are both taught to always ask how things work and raise questions when something doesn't seem to square well with what we know.
The next trick they might pull is ask for tech or eng professionals to present the sales talk with nonsense mumbo-jumbo that will fool our own engineers.
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
I am just saying that this might be a sad fact of life. I think that it is likely that everyone that is in the top 1-2% of the income group has done unethnical things before.
This is really defeatist attitude
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Originally posted by charlize:
SMU grads can make 4-10K a month.
Why do MLM?
Cause haven become SMU grad yet.
And since we are onto this issue, I got a question to ask. Can you guys suggest a good job to be in when studying in university? I was thinking continue VE but lol. Maybe not. -
Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
Cause haven become SMU grad yet.
And since we are onto this issue, I got a question to ask. Can you guys suggest a good job to be in when studying in university? I was thinking continue VE but lol. Maybe not.
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Originally posted by eagle:
This is really defeatist attitude
I would like to see you become a non-defeatist in when looking at this sad fact of life.
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I am just saying that this might be a sad fact of life. I think that it is likely that everyone that is in the top 1-2% of the income group has done unethnical things before
This does not mean that it is alright to do such things. Many ppl have done this, doesnt not mean that everyone have done this. We know that its wrong. We know scamming ppl etc is wrong. No excuses can make a wrong look like its alright. -
Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
I will keep that in mind. Frankly speaking, posting in this forum really let me learned some new things too. So I am actually glad that I posted, despite being rebutted each time. I guess you really never know what you will get until you really do it.
Anyway can you tell me some of the things that he did that he regret? So that we all can learn too.I'm just saying many top people had left with regrets, not only in VE but many other companies too, and am now back to a day job, which they had so violently objected in the past when they preached their mlm business. This fact alone surely, raises questions in the business.
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Originally posted by elementalangel:
thanks guys for the encouragement.
for lim kuang yong. what details do you need?
Details like what do I do. Is it freelance? Do I find my own appointments?
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Originally posted by huzane89:
This does not mean that it is alright to do such things. Many ppl have done this, doesnt not mean that everyone have done this. We know that its wrong. We know scamming ppl etc is wrong. No excuses can make a wrong look like its alright.Yes, but now I am asking how to reach the top 1-2% while still being ethnical when maybe almost all of the people in those 1-2% have done something unethnical.
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Originally posted by airgrinder:
I'm just saying many top people had left with regrets, not only in VE but many other companies too, and am now back to a day job, which they had so violently objected in the past when they preached their mlm business. This fact alone surely, raises questions in the business.
Regrets like what? I want to know so that I will not do the same things and have the same regrets.
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
I would like to see you become a non-defeatist in when looking at this sad fact of life.
That's you.
I'm much more positive than you. And my achievements in life, I believe, should have far exceeded yours at 19 years old.
Why do you even need to care about the top 1-2% of the income group when earning 10k to 20k is considered big to you by age 30? Before you even reach 10k monthly, you are already being a defeatist.
Take things one step at a time. Reach your potential earning capability by being ethical first.
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Originally posted by eagle:
That's you.
I'm much more positive than you. And my achievements in life, I believe, should have far exceeded yours at 19 years old.
Why do you even need to care about the top 1-2% of the income group when earning 10k to 20k is considered big to you by age 30? Before you even reach 10k monthly, you are already being a defeatist.
Take things one step at a time. Reach your potential earning capability by being ethical first.
Not necessary. You do know even know any achievement of mine. Such an proud guy aren't you, feeling that your supposed many achievements exceed a 19 year old.
Good point. I shouldn't care about the top 1-2% group for now. So I am defeatist about being part of the 1-2%. I am a very realistic person, and sometimes it irks me too. But It doesnt mean that reaching 10k a month seems very far and unachievable to me.
And I am taking one step at a time. I post here, learn more about VE, before making any plans like quitting or continuing VE. -
Yes, but now I am asking how to reach the top 1-2% while still being ethnical when maybe almost all of the people in those 1-2% have done something unethnical.
When you have strong moral values, all these immoralities can be avoided when you are on your way to reach the top.
Are you saying that most people who reach at the top have done something unethical? or are you ASSUMING that they have done something unethical? Do you have prove that these people did do something unethical once? Your word is MAYBE. And it is still not okay.
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Originally posted by Lim kuang yong2:
Not necessary. You do know even know any achievement of mine. Such an proud guy aren't you, feeling that your supposed many achievements exceed a 19 year old.
Good point. I shouldn't care about the top 1-2% group for now. So I am defeatist about being part of the 1-2%. I am a very realistic person, and sometimes it irks me too. But It doesnt mean that reaching 10k a month seems very far and unachievable to me.
And I am taking one step at a time. I post here, learn more about VE, before making any plans like quitting or continuing VE.Let's see
I scored 4As for my As
I represented Sg for Physics Olympiad
I'm among the top 10 in Sg for A lvl Physics
These are among the things that helped me secure many tuition contracts now. I still have more if you wish to know.How about you? ;)
Yes, 10k isn't anything hard to achieve if you set your mind on it. But before you reach there, you are already wondering why pple must be unethical to be in the top 1-2%??? You are looking too far up.
Once you reach the top 10% bracket, then you go look at the top 1-2% and complain about them being unethical if u wish.
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Originally posted by eagle:
Let's see
I scored 4As for my As
I represented Sg for Physics Olympiad
I'm among the top 10 in Sg for A lvl PhysicsHow about you? ;)
eagle, i didnt know that you are damn super smart. How much do you take to coach ppl for As? -
Originally posted by eagle:
Let's see
I scored 4As for my As
I represented Sg for Physics Olympiad
I'm among the top 10 in Sg for A lvl PhysicsHow about you? ;)
nabeiz
drag him out and off with his head!
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Originally posted by eagle:
Let's see
I scored 4As for my As
I represented Sg for Physics Olympiad
I'm among the top 10 in Sg for A lvl PhysicsHow about you? ;)
Let's see. I am not as proud as you to openly state your achievements. You can call me a wuss and running away, but I rather that than have a who's better? comparison. Such comparisons can never end.
And what jc are you from? Perhaps you might be a senior to me.