Re: Miss/Mrs LFI- Long Fa's pageant

• ya_rite

  30 Jun 07, 13:49

  Originally posted by Nikonman:

  Hey, he never mention anything about any product. Why are you so hostile and trigger happy?
  
  By the way, do you have the pharmacology profile of the product?
  
  Are u speaking on behalf of the management of LFI? Do you represent them? If you are, please gave us details as requested. What's the prevalence of adverse reactions for the capsules? Any other known side effects? Any caution required for customers with special condition or pre existing illnesses? Drug/food interactions? Max/Min dosage for adverse reaction to manifest/ efficacy to be achieved?
  
  Eagerly waiting for your answers on these rather than the usual sue this sue that.
  
  

  Ur toking 2 me or lfi_yes?
• the_fallen

  30 Jun 07, 14:40

  Originally posted by LFI_YES:

  hey dudy dude,
  
  what do you mean by lao sai wan? don't you think that you can be sued for saying this? I will forget about this if you edit or delete this post. if not, you will banned very soon. understand?
  
  cheers

  threatening of fellow users.
  
  this type of behavior is deem un-acceptable.
  
  you're reputation already is so Low at -3
  
  do you wish to have your reputation at -10?
• junkieyuri

  30 Jun 07, 15:29

  Originally posted by the_fallen:

  you're reputation already is so Low at -3
  do you wish to have your reputation at -10?

  Erm, sgforums also have reputation points structure ah??? Can teach me how to check my own points???
• the_fallen

  30 Jun 07, 17:27

  Originally posted by junkieyuri:

  Erm, sgforums also have reputation points structure ah??? Can teach me how to check my own points???

  haha..
  
  actually there's no such guide line..
  
  but if you are a regular reader, and you often read that a forumer contributor post nonsense or rubbish replies, might as well give the label of drop in reputation right.
  
  previously (minority of us) we use creditbility and things like +1 or -1 to state either agree or disagree, but as more and more clones surfaced, +1 post are banned in forums already to prevent ppl from just replying to increase their number of posts.
  
  i use reputation is because it helps new readers to identify negative forum replies.
  
  but this to date is something which i myself use only.
  
  understand already?
• Ristar

  30 Jun 07, 17:37

  MLMers love to threaten people with lawsuits for slander/libel all the while unwilling to show their pay slip, income tax blah blah blah online because of "security reasons".
  
  to my knowledge, they never say "OK" to my suggestion of a sgForums outing where they show everything of interest to the public.
  
  in a venue of our choice, because we do not want them to bring their 'friends'.
  
  suing somebody does not mean that u r right. look at TT Durai.
• laurence82

  1 Jul 07, 01:25

  To the real LFI agents in here
  
  i have talked to the moderator and she told me two things
  
  a) LFI_Yes is banned for some personal flaming in the LFI capsules thread
  
  b) previous nicks are whybother and JZ21, which means he is an SE agent, you can check out his two clones nicks in the NTI/EMCOM?Sunshine Empire threads
  
  since this happened, be aware of such clones around, as SE now is facing problem from that 95.8 FM broadcast, chance are they might be desperate or something
  
  cheers
  
  
• junkieyuri

  1 Jul 07, 02:11

  Originally posted by the_fallen:

  haha..
  
  actually there's no such guide line..
  
  but if you are a regular reader, and you often read that a forumer contributor post nonsense or rubbish replies, might as well give the label of drop in reputation right.
  
  previously (minority of us) we use creditbility and things like +1 or -1 to state either agree or disagree, but as more and more clones surfaced, +1 post are banned in forums already to prevent ppl from just replying to increase their number of posts.
  
  i use reputation is because it helps new readers to identify negative forum replies.
  
  but this to date is something which i myself use only.
  
  understand already?

  Yes i finally understand how come got +1 & -1 in certain posts. I actually though it can affect some sort of points tally. Anyway we should have a system like Sammyboy where they really do have reputation points.
  
  Cheers.
• junkieyuri

  1 Jul 07, 02:19

  Originally posted by Ristar:

  MLMers love to threaten people with lawsuits for slander/libel all the while unwilling to show their pay slip, income tax blah blah blah online because of "security reasons".
  
  to my knowledge, they never say "OK" to my suggestion of a sgForums outing where they show everything of interest to the public in a venue of our choice, because we do not want them to bring their 'friends'.
  
  suing somebody does not mean that u r right. look at TT Durai.

  Bro, that was a sweeping statement. Even normal people in the coporate ladder & those in the rat race do not really show anybody their pay cheque. Do you show people your pay check? They give ball park figures which might not even be remotely accurate, so let us leave the income aspect out of the picture. However, if a person can afford a nice car & the occassion treat at the pub or maybe at Sim Lim Square, you can safely assume he is indeed doing well.
  
  I do admit in MLM industry, there are black sheeps. I was one of them. Please name me just one industry that do not have a single black sheep. Let us focus on those who know what they are talking about instead of the black sheeps. This is so we can have a fruitful discussion.
  
  I do not mind meeting you in a venue of your choice. We can watch have a drink in a quiet place or maybe a buffet dinner. Would you like to organize the first outing since you brought it up?
  
  Cheers
• JZ21

  1 Jul 07, 03:15

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  To the real LFI agents in here
  
  i have talked to the moderator and she told me two things
  
  a) LFI_Yes is banned for some personal flaming in the LFI capsules thread
  
  b) previous nicks are whybother and JZ21, which means he is an SE agent, you can check out his two clones nicks in the NTI/EMCOM?Sunshine Empire threads
  
  since this happened, be aware of such clones around, as SE now is facing problem from that 95.8 FM broadcast, chance are they might be desperate or something
  
  cheers
  
  

  WTF
  if e mod can check whos a clone, y m i associated wif those 2 buffoons?
  
  FYI
  e clone issue was brought up by YOU n resolved here. http://www.sgforums.com/?action=thread_display&thread_id=202581&page=38
  
  say sorry n i'll forgive u.
  
  
• Ristar

  1 Jul 07, 03:33

  did u earn 5 figure?
  
  my point, and everyone's point, is if your people claim that they earn 5 (or 6) figure pay, prove it.
  
  talk is free at the end of the day, afterall.
• the_fallen

  1 Jul 07, 03:48

  Originally posted by junkieyuri:

  Bro, that was a sweeping statement. Even normal people in the coporate ladder & those in the rat race do not really show anybody their pay cheque. Do you show people your pay check? They give ball park figures which might not even be remotely accurate, so let us leave the income aspect out of the picture. However, if a person can afford a nice car & the occassion treat at the pub or maybe at Sim Lim Square, you can safely assume he is indeed doing well.
  
  I do admit in MLM industry, there are black sheeps. I was one of them. Please name me just one industry that do not have a single black sheep. Let us focus on those who know what they are talking about instead of the black sheeps. This is so we can have a fruitful discussion.
  
  I do not mind meeting you in a venue of your choice. We can watch have a drink in a quiet place or maybe a buffet dinner. Would you like to organize the first outing since you brought it up?
  
  Cheers

  Note:
  
  Don't Divert Attention or try to Change Topic.
  
  Since you have admitted that you're a black sheep, than what are your plans, any intention to turn over a new leaf?
  
  Before we foucus on the topic to make sure if people know what they are talking, we have to solve the problem of Black Sheeps FIRST.
  
  Coz black sheeps are often and common the source of most complaints due to lack of training.
  
  If we can't agree and correct the black sheep problem, than what's the point of focus on the talk, when there will be high chance that another Clone will surface and claim to have this and that again like the Ill-Trained Independent Distributor - LFI_YES who tried to put on a false identity and was caught.
• junkieyuri

  1 Jul 07, 09:54

  Originally posted by the_fallen:

  Note:
  
  Don't Divert Attention or try to Change Topic.
  
  Since you have admitted that you're a black sheep, than what are your plans, any intention to turn over a new leaf?
  
  Before we foucus on the topic to make sure if people know what they are talking, we have to solve the problem of Black Sheeps FIRST.
  
  Coz black sheeps are often and common the source of most complaints due to lack of training.
  
  If we can't agree and correct the black sheep problem, than what's the point of focus on the talk, when there will be high chance that another Clone will surface and claim to have this and that again like the Ill-Trained Independent Distributor - LFI_YES who tried to put on a false identity and was caught.

  I'm not trying nto divert attention or change topic. If I remembered wrongly, the focus was not on me. I said I was once a black sheep, but of course under the advise of some experienced MLMers, I attended lessons over & over again & talked less, listened more. I got my facts right & therefore increased my understanding & appreciation for this business model. For inexperienced MLMers & those skeptical about MLM, this is what I urge all of you to do. There is nothing to lose & everything to gain. I do strongly believe that only people who are ignorant or inadequately / wrongly informed will be skeptical.
  
  Cheers.
• junkieyuri

  1 Jul 07, 09:57

  Originally posted by Ristar:

  did u earn 5 figure?
  
  my point, and everyone's point, is if your people claim that they earn 5 (or 6) figure pay, prove it.
  
  talk is free at the end of the day, afterall.

  I am not earning 5 figure income. For anybody to prove anything to you, first you must have an open mind & willing to listen & put aside all your prejudices. If not, even if we bring an elephant & place it in front of you, you will still stubbornly say that there is no such thing as a big big grey animal with a trunk which can drink water & carry people.
  
  If you can do this without holding back, you will see the truth.
  
  Cheers.
• laurence82

  1 Jul 07, 12:08

  Originally posted by junkieyuri:

  Bro, that was a sweeping statement. Even normal people in the coporate ladder & those in the rat race do not really show anybody their pay cheque. Do you show people your pay check? They give ball park figures which might not even be remotely accurate, so let us leave the income aspect out of the picture. However, if a person can afford a nice car & the occassion treat at the pub or maybe at Sim Lim Square, you can safely assume he is indeed doing well.
  
  I do admit in MLM industry, there are black sheeps. I was one of them. Please name me just one industry that do not have a single black sheep. Let us focus on those who know what they are talking about instead of the black sheeps. This is so we can have a fruitful discussion.
  
  I do not mind meeting you in a venue of your choice. We can watch have a drink in a quiet place or maybe a buffet dinner. Would you like to organize the first outing since you brought it up?
  
  Cheers

  I got somemore to say about this post, but i will just stick with 1 point
  
  High earners in corporate world do not need to show proof of income because they dont have duty to. At AGMs, their salaries are decided by shareholders.
  
  On the other hand, MLMers do have a duty, because if you were to market a scheme and tell people that they have opportunity to earn if they work hard at it, you will need to show people some evidences of income, whether its you or your uplines.
  
  There are two paradigms for tackling this same income issue, so you will need to be aware
• laurence82

  1 Jul 07, 12:15

  Oh before i forget, i am not sure about LFI, being a newer set up which i never gone down to
  
  I am quite impressed, you guys are taking errant distributors to task, whether or not you are aware that they are clones from other companies in here
  
  Wish i could say the same for a particular company, but alas, they could only create a whole mess of office politices and conspiracy theories just to pin down on those who were having proper discussion, albeit negatively
  
  
• Ristar

  1 Jul 07, 14:44

  Originally posted by junkieyuri:

  I am not earning 5 figure income. For anybody to prove anything to you, first you must have an open mind & willing to listen & put aside all your prejudices. If not, even if we bring an elephant & place it in front of you, you will still stubbornly say that there is no such thing as a big big grey animal with a trunk which can drink water & carry people.
  
  If you can do this without holding back, you will see the truth.
  
  Cheers.

  if u do not earn that, then it is pointless to meet u. no point meeting minions at the bottom of the food chain. and knowing u MLM ppl, u will try to recruit ppl, ie to say, waste my time.
  
  in addition, if u read my prev posts, which post tells u that i do not have an open mind?
• junkieyuri

  1 Jul 07, 16:25

  Originally posted by Ristar:

  if u do not earn that, then it is pointless to meet u. no point meeting minions at the bottom of the food chain. and knowing u MLM ppl, u will try to recruit ppl, ie to say, waste my time.
  
  in addition, if u read my prev posts, which post tells u that i do not have an open mind?

  I'm just saying in general, who wants to meet up for outing, I'm fine with it. Also stating that everybody must keep an open mind, not directing that remark at you. Not to compare company or compensation plan, just meet new people. Come out drink coffee or alcohol or makan is a good enough reason to meet people mah. I already have a stable network going, why on earth would you think people want to meet you just to recruit you? Are you of such good quality that people are dying to recruit you? I do not want any Tom, Dick or Harry in my network because I have to be responsible for their growth. You want to meet 5-figure income earners for what reason then? Since you say such people willl only try to recruit people. Anyway meeting only 5-figure income earners does not meann you will make 5-figure.
  
  Cheers.
• junkieyuri

  1 Jul 07, 16:29

  Originally posted by laurence82:

  I got somemore to say about this post, but i will just stick with 1 point
  
  High earners in corporate world do not need to show proof of income because they dont have duty to. At AGMs, their salaries are decided by shareholders.
  
  On the other hand, MLMers do have a duty, because if you were to market a scheme and tell people that they have opportunity to earn if they work hard at it, you will need to show people some evidences of income, whether its you or your uplines.
  
  There are two paradigms for tackling this same income issue, so you will need to be aware

  Compensation plan is only a few figures on a few pieces of paper. It is rigid while people are flexible. Plan may sound beautiful on paper but hard to achieve in real life. Coporate people's income are decided by others, but in MLM, you alone decide how much you want to earn. If you want to earn more, just work harder. If you are happy with the level of income, just maintain your sales & other stuff loh. Anyway plan is not everything. You should look at other factors of the company & their products.
  
  Cheers.
• junkieyuri

  1 Jul 07, 16:31

  This thread is about LFI's pageant. The discussion is going off-topic liao. I will end my discussion here.
  
  Cheers.
• laurence82

  1 Jul 07, 16:36

  Originally posted by junkieyuri:

  Compensation plan is only a few figures on a few pieces of paper. It is rigid while people are flexible. Plan may sound beautiful on paper but hard to achieve in real life. Coporate people's income are decided by others, but in MLM, you alone decide how much you want to earn. If you want to earn more, just work harder. If you are happy with the level of income, just maintain your sales & other stuff loh. Anyway plan is not everything. You should look at other factors of the company & their products.
  
  Cheers.

  Urm, there is a name for this type of fallacious argument and i cant think of the name offhand
  
  The issue is about duty to prove income, not about the source and benefit-cost of any type of income.
  
  My previous post point to, two different types of income earners having different level of duty and responsibilities in reporting their income
  
  Proof of income may not be the only indicator of the strength of the scheme, but its one of the good gauges
  
  MLM scheme differs from other schemes out there because they also promote alternative source of income above the average income earners salary
  
  In short, if you cannot give good gauge of the income earning of yourself or your uplines, its as simply as not telling people how this scheme could be successful for them
  
  Any damn MLM company will play along the same line, and who is to know which company scheme is a scam and which is not, if they all hide their earnings
  
  
• Nikonman

  3 Jul 07, 12:08

  Remember to continue your support for the Miss LFI in Miss World Singapore 2007.
  
  Miss LFI is very confident to win Miss Word Singapore and represent both Singapore and LFI.
  
  Catch all the finalist in action at their photoshoot at Instant Glamour @ Central, unit 02-17 today and tomorrow (3rd/4th July)
  
  Continue to support them at the Eastpoint preview show
  
  Preview 1 Saturday 07 July 2007
  Preview 2 Sunday 08 July 2007
  Preview 3 Saturday 14 July 2007
  Preview 4 Sunday 15 July 2007
  
  Glamour Time : 5.00pm
  
  Glamour Venue : Eastpoint Shopping Mall ( next to Simei mrt station )
  
• the_fallen

  3 Jul 07, 16:56

  Originally posted by Nikonman:

  Remember to continue your support for the Miss LFI in Miss World Singapore 2007.
  
  Miss LFI is very confident to win Miss Word Singapore and represent both Singapore and LFI.
  
  Catch all the finalist in action at their photoshoot at Instant Glamour @ Central, unit 02-17 today and tomorrow (3rd/4th July)
  
  Continue to support them at the Eastpoint preview show
  
  Preview 1 Saturday 07 July 2007
  Preview 2 Sunday 08 July 2007
  Preview 3 Saturday 14 July 2007
  Preview 4 Sunday 15 July 2007
  
  Glamour Time : 5.00pm
  
  Glamour Venue : Eastpoint Shopping Mall ( next to Simei mrt station )
  

  what time will it end?
• CKeer

  3 Jul 07, 17:04

  Originally posted by the_fallen:

  what time will it end?

  So near to my house.
  
  Cheers.
  CK
• the_fallen

  3 Jul 07, 17:14

  Originally posted by Nikonman:

  Remember to continue your support for the Miss LFI in Miss World Singapore 2007.
  
  Miss LFI is very confident to win Miss Word Singapore and represent both Singapore and LFI.
  
  Catch all the finalist in action at their photoshoot at Instant Glamour @ Central, unit 02-17 today and tomorrow (3rd/4th July)
  
  Continue to support them at the Eastpoint preview show
  
  Preview 1 Saturday 07 July 2007
  Preview 2 Sunday 08 July 2007
  Preview 3 Saturday 14 July 2007
  Preview 4 Sunday 15 July 2007
  
  Glamour Time : 5.00pm
  
  Glamour Venue : Eastpoint Shopping Mall ( next to Simei mrt station )
  

  by the way, is the preview 3 & 4 same as preview 1 & 2 respectively?
  
  because I miss the 1st preview.
• Nikonman

  4 Jul 07, 12:57

  Originally posted by the_fallen:

  by the way, is the preview 3 & 4 same as preview 1 & 2 respectively?
  
  because I miss the 1st preview.

  I think they will split the finalists into 2 groups. 1 group will do sat show and the other will do the sunday one and the same will happen for preview 3 and 4 with different clothes label.
  
  Stay tune and look out for their official pictures in the website.
  
  Rem to support your favourite LFI gals since LFI has committed so much money into the competition. Must win something man. Hope they have the same SMS voting system.
  
  Most important. Stand up for Singapore. Well wishes to all the finalist. May the best gal win the competition and represent Singapore. Miss LFI must win man.