Repost: Sunshine Empire
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You're a good detective. Do post more. Meanwhile I'll try to see if I can ask any Taiwan people online about the Taichung telcoms project.Originally posted by abductboy:Thanks for this link.
Redstone, I just realise this is the guy who appears regularly in chinese papers column and is a famous fengshui guy.
Best leave him out of our SE discussion as he does not seemed involved in the current scam.
Abduct, does your friend in KL happen to know the plot ratio, setback, zoning etc of the site over at Tun Razak? On the floorplans, the units are labled "office". So is it office or condo?
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Oops! I have changed my words in that post..
Ya... currently checking who really owns that 2 plots of land.
It is not as easy as Singapore.
But I will keep this forum posted. -
SUNSHINE EMPIRE IS A SCAM, A FRAUD AND ARE LIARS.
CAD OFFICE CONFIRMED THAT THEY DID NOT FREEZE SUNSHINE EMPIRE
BANK A/C. SSE CAN CONTINUE THEIR DAILY TRANSACTIONS, MAKE
PAYMENTS AND REFUND THE INVESTORS.
ANYONE CAN CALL CAD TEL: 65573918 TO VERIFY AND CONFIRM.
THE MEDIA SHOULD BE INFORMED TO EXPOSE SSE LIES. ANYONE
WHO WISH TO WITHDRAW OR ASK FOR REFUND CAN DO SO.
Well I guess if there is a massive withdrawal SSE will have to close
down. The Managers, uplines commission will be clawback. -
Originally posted by SUNSHINE OSAMA:
It was mentioned that none of what SE said about CAD, comes from CAD.
[b] SUNSHINE EMPIRE IS A SCAM, A FRAUD AND ARE LIARS.
CAD OFFICE CONFIRMED THAT THEY DID NOT FREEZE SUNSHINE EMPIRE
BANK A/C. SSE CAN CONTINUE THEIR DAILY TRANSACTIONS, MAKE
PAYMENTS AND REFUND THE INVESTORS.
ANYONE CAN CALL CAD TEL: 65573918 TO VERIFY AND CONFIRM.
THE MEDIA SHOULD BE INFORMED TO EXPOSE SSE LIES. ANYONE
WHO WISH TO WITHDRAW OR ASK FOR REFUND CAN DO SO.
Well I guess if there is a massive withdrawal SSE will have to close
down. The Managers, uplines commission will be clawback. [/b]
Like I said, they have no utter respect for the law. -
They say people posting in blogs about SE are false. Now they themselves say false stuff? Stove calling kettle black?Originally posted by laurence82:It was mentioned that none of what SE said about CAD, comes from CAD.
Like I said, they have no utter respect for the law. -
So back to the chicken and egg questions...
did CAD freeze thier acc?
or
CAD advice SE to limited transaction for investigation?
both are different case though.
So that Brian Liew lying or he was also mis-informed? -
Getting more interesting
Sources
you from malaysia?
weird thing is last month payout is $737.50
but this month is only $292.10 for MY a/c (60% drop)
and $73.07 for SG a/c (90% drop)
y they differ now?
and yet all the fee goes whopping up? $20 fee
and y the epoint no longer transferable from country to country?
is more issue going to come? -
actually
how they can calculate how much they can get in the first place? it looks very arbitrary -
This issues was raised by Brains before.....Originally posted by laurence82:actually
how they can calculate how much they can get in the first place? it looks very arbitrary
How come some members received uneven paid out?
How is the 10% turn over profit sharing is calculated/obtained since most projects are still bleeding.....worst thing is some not even taking place.
None of the SE "investors" wished to find out the truth, since every month they got $ return can liao. -
reading all these make me very worried. when will there be positive news from the CAD against them?
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LATEST UPDATE!!! SOMETIME DURING THIS COMING NEW YEAR SUNSHINE EMPIRE WILL CLOSE DOWN!!!! I AM NOT SURE IF THE CAD OR ANY AUTHORITIES WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHUT DOWN OR JUST INSIDE NEWS OF THIS SUNSHINE EMPIRE SCAM GETTING READY TO RUN AWAY....
GUESS THEY HAD HIT THEIR PEAK......GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!! -
Originally posted by Xterminator:
Hmmm?? more info?
LATEST UPDATE!!! SOMETIME DURING THIS COMING NEW YEAR SUNSHINE EMPIRE WILL CLOSE DOWN!!!! I AM NOT SURE IF THE CAD OR ANY AUTHORITIES WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHUT DOWN OR JUST INSIDE NEWS OF THIS SUNSHINE EMPIRE SCAM GETTING READY TO RUN AWAY....
GUESS THEY HAD HIT THEIR PEAK......GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!![b][/b] -
Originally posted by Xterminator:
can share more?
LATEST UPDATE!!! SOMETIME DURING THIS COMING NEW YEAR SUNSHINE EMPIRE WILL CLOSE DOWN!!!! I AM NOT SURE IF THE CAD OR ANY AUTHORITIES WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE SHUT DOWN OR JUST INSIDE NEWS OF THIS SUNSHINE EMPIRE SCAM GETTING READY TO RUN AWAY....
GUESS THEY HAD HIT THEIR PEAK......GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!![b][/b]
hmmmm this worst than i thought........wad thinking it gonna last for 3 years.....
JP and his lackeys were going to humiliate all of us...then runaway de........ -
No... I believe it is a pre-planned withdrawal.
All signs point to the a shifting of operations overseas.
Because the internet has dissolved the boundary of countries, SE can still operate eslewhere.
The Singapore governement cannot stop its citizens if they chose to throw away their money.
It is not against the law for its citizen to do as they please with their money.
If they can are allowed to shift their operations elsewhere, I do not know what to think....! -
Like what they said about Swisscash, the police cant do much against online scams, as long as they dont have a physical presence, any prosecution is hard
Lets hope the CAD wrap up their investigations quickly, or at least, withold the passports of the management peeps -
Hello Forumers,
I had wanted to share information with everyone about the CRP for the month of November 2007 that is paid out today on 10th Dec.
I am pleased to read about several accurate but somewhat biased detective work. I mean it; keep up the good work. I am very appreciative for the criticism about SE. Because I have done my best to speak to influential people in SE but more often than not, my advise have fallen on deaf ears, especially to the 6 digit earning BRMs, GSDs and RSDs.
Am not sure if anyone remember my previous posts (no, not the unfinished SE concert review, but I will complete it!); I had written about the CRP system and I am somewhat disturbed that the weakness of this business module is exposed in November 2007; that is; the lack of confidence VS Singaporean's obedience to the political climate. Ok, nvm, I won't go in to that; the part of Singapore's government wanting a pie in businesses, specially profitable ones.
I will compile all the CRP for ALL COUNTRIES and post them for all to view in due time. I will also comment. For those who have PM messaged me, you know who you are, I do not believe that free speech should be restricted in Singapore; sorry. Go workers party!
Thanks for reading.
p.s.
Btw, SE as a Network marketing company can NOT do advertisement. If they do, there will be no more commission left! -
Interesting..... I have posted from the hyperlinked below about a friend of mine in SE who was told by his upline that SE will not close as the government will not dare to 'offend' the 20k members SE has cos some of the funds they use are life time savings..Originally posted by Observer82:Hello Forumers,
I had wanted to share information with everyone about the CRP for the month of November 2007 that is paid out today on 10th Dec.
I am pleased to read about several accurate but somewhat biased detective work. I mean it; keep up the good work. I am very appreciative for the criticism about SE. Because I have done my best to speak to influential people in SE but more often than not, my advise have fallen on deaf ears, especially to the 6 digit earning BRMs, GSDs and RSDs.
Am not sure if anyone remember my previous posts (no, not the unfinished SE concert review, but I will complete it!); I had written about the CRP system and I am somewhat disturbed that the weakness of this business module is exposed in November 2007; that is; the lack of confidence VS Singaporean's obedience to the political climate. Ok, nvm, I won't go in to that; the part of Singapore's government wanting a pie in businesses, specially profitable ones.
I will compile all the CRP for ALL COUNTRIES and post them for all to view in due time. I will also comment. For those who have PM messaged me, you know who you are, I do not believe that free speech should be restricted in Singapore; sorry. Go workers party!
Thanks for reading.
p.s.
Btw, SE as a Network marketing company can NOT do advertisement. If they do, there will be no more commission left!
This friend of mine also told me something which he said his upline told him which i didnt post cos i tot it was utter bull Sheet* AND i tot it came SOLELY from him and NOT his SE upline -------- His upline told him that the reason why SE is being investigated is cos SE is causing a huge outflow of money out of Singapore and that the government is extremely unhappy that this is happening and that the government has no share in this business.....
After reading what u wrote above, somehow i am begginning to feel guilty about accusing my friend...
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Sunshine-Empire-aka-Emcom-t105950.html&st=1050 -
Originally posted by SUNSHINE OSAMA:
To be fair to all SE supporters out there... mind if you share what's the conversation piece u had with CAD?
[b] SUNSHINE EMPIRE IS A SCAM, A FRAUD AND ARE LIARS.
CAD OFFICE CONFIRMED THAT THEY DID NOT FREEZE SUNSHINE EMPIRE
BANK A/C. SSE CAN CONTINUE THEIR DAILY TRANSACTIONS, MAKE
PAYMENTS AND REFUND THE INVESTORS.
ANYONE CAN CALL CAD TEL: 65573918 TO VERIFY AND CONFIRM.
THE MEDIA SHOULD BE INFORMED TO EXPOSE SSE LIES. ANYONE
WHO WISH TO WITHDRAW OR ASK FOR REFUND CAN DO SO.
Well I guess if there is a massive withdrawal SSE will have to close
down. The Managers, uplines commission will be clawback. [/b] -
Care to elaborate?Originally posted by Brains:Interesting..... I have posted from the hyperlinked below about a friend of mine in SE who was told by his upline that SE will not close as the government will not dare to 'offend' the 20k members SE has cos some of the funds they use are life time savings..
This friend of mine also told me something which he said his upline told him which i didnt post cos i tot it was utter bull Sheet* AND i tot it came SOLELY from him and NOT his SE upline -------- His upline told him that the reason why SE is being investigated is cos SE is causing a huge outflow of money out of Singapore and that the government is extremely unhappy that this is happening and that the government has no share in this business.....
After reading what u wrote above, somehow i am begginning to feel guilty about accusing my friend...
http://www.moneymakergroup.com/Sunshine-Empire-aka-Emcom-t105950.html&st=1050 -
Greeting Brains.
Welcome to Sgforums.
Shinigami77.
Observer82 kindly finished the review please.
Its kinda interesting.
Also, you're the only SEM left that is so polite and in formatives.
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SE is being investigated is cos SE is causing a huge outflow of money out of Singapore and that the government is extremely unhappy that this is happening and that the government has no share in this business....
I believe this is just more brain-washing detergent to justify CAD action.
Just like the saying that SE invited CAD to check their accounts and be placed in the Police Files.
The fact that we are all here is because SE MLM business is a front for something else.
So why should the government wants a share in something that refuses to be regulated, accounted or responsible for its action?
So let's stay focused on getting facts that can be substantiated only. -
Holding cash or Faith?
Wish one you now prefer?
Money or Faith? *This is not an issue about religion*
Now is Money speaks louder than words and pictures cause there is NO ACTION.
All are just WAYANG.
Seeing is believing? No way ! Not until you are holding back all your very hard earn cash onto your own hand....not some e-points that are worthless in the eyes of the bankers.
If you had already break even, nothing wrong to stay put carry on ripping off those greedy latecomers.
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dec bonus usd730.26 withdrew... can get into my bank acc i hope... finger crossedOriginally posted by kyoshirou77:Holding cash or Faith?
Wish one you now prefer?
Money or Faith? *This is not an issue about religion*
Now is Money speaks louder than words and pictures cause there is NO ACTION.
All are just WAYANG.
Seeing is believing? No way ! Not until you are holding back all your very hard earn cash onto your own hand....not some e-points that are worthless in the eyes of the bankers.
If you had already break even, nothing wrong to stay put carry on ripping off those greedy latecomers.
Good Luck
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CARI Malaysia Chinese Forum Admin had banned all discussion on SE Issues.
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Friend's SE uplines claimed:Originally posted by redstone:Care to elaborate?
(1) Singaporean invest in SE = SE take money invest into other country's projects like theme park, properties, technology etc = creating more jobs/tourism/living standard etc thus boosting these country's economy at the expense of ours.
(2) Singaporen's money flowing out and the government has no control/pie/slice of it = Singapore government jealous/envious/angry that they have not been able to grab a piece of the business = get CAD to whack them