Repost: Sunshine Empire
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Hi Shinigami77,Originally posted by kyoshirou77:Greeting Brains.
Welcome to Sgforums.
Shinigami77.
Observer82 kindly finished the review please.
Its kinda interesting.
Also, you're the only SEM left that is so polite and in formatives.
Cheers
All SE supporters seem to have suddenly appear in moneymakergroup after that yuanguan asked to buy GP haa...
It just proof that there's tons of eyes on all these forums..be it supporters or critics...
There's already no point to talk/debate/argue about SE business model cos basically i doubt any SE supporter in Singapore or anywhere in the world is capable of winning/explaining logically the model..
I only wish that more SE supporters will appear to share about their monthly collection experience going forward. In any case, my friend stated above has been receiving timely monthly pay. I been really surprise to be reading those comments put up about not getting the right payout etc.. -
welcome brain migrate to here liao welcome welcome hehe
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GREETINGS, BRAINS.
SUNSHINE EMPIRE IS UNDER CAD INVESTIGATION.
CALL CAD OFFICE AND FIND OUT YOURSELF. THEY ARE
VERY COURTEOUS AND POLITE.
TEL: 65573918
MY TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH CAD OFFICER
ON MONDAY IS PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL.
I WAS A GOLD MERCHANT AND ALL MY DOWNLINES ARE
ALSO GOLD MERCHANTS. NOW I AM A RENEGADE.
CHEERS.
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haahah same here same hereOriginally posted by SUNSHINE OSAMA:GREETINGS, BRAINS.
SUNSHINE EMPIRE IS UNDER CAD INVESTIGATION.
CALL CAD OFFICE AND FIND OUT YOURSELF. THEY ARE
VERY COURTEOUS AND POLITE.
TEL: 65573918
MY TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH CAD OFFICER
ON MONDAY IS PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL.
I WAS A GOLD MERCHANT AND ALL MY DOWNLINES ARE
ALSO GOLD MERCHANTS. NOW I AM A RENEGADE.
CHEERS. -
E-points Conversion Table.
1 e-point is equal to...
Brunei - BUD 1.60 (BND/Brunei Dollars)
China - CNY 7.80 (HKD)
International - e-points 1.00
Singapore - SGD 1.60
Hong Kong - HKD 7.80
Indonesia - IDR 9000 (Rupiah)
Korea - KRW 1000
Middle East - USD 48 (American Dollars)
Malaysia - MYR 3.70 (RM/Ringgit)
Philipines - PESO 48
Thailand - THB 36 (Baht)
Taiwan - TWD 34 (NT$)
USA* - USD 1.10
Japan - ? ? ?
(* This is NOT to be confused with NTI old conversion rates.)
1 USD = 1.75 SGD (circa 2003-2004)
1 USD = 1.60 SGD (circa 2005-2007)
p.s. Kiyo77, patience ok? The concert review can wait. There is a reason why I post this table here. Ok, ok, I know what you are thinking. I saw the Mei Xin commercials on TV. What did I tell you? She can't sing! But her Ballerina cosplay was hot that night at the concert. Woot! >_<
Empire-SG-Forum-Spot-The-Mistake-cum-Poker Contest:
I deliberately made an error in the conversion table above. Please only reply (to me) if you can spot it. Erm... no, there will be no lucky draw or free GP. And I won't ask you to commit 12 GPs for the month of December. Not when CRP for Singapore GP are at an all time low. -
Good morning Singaporeans!!! ^_^
How are you feeling today?
Disappointed by the taxi fare hike?
Still mystified and amused by James Gomez and the high ministerial pay?
Disappointed by the 3.5% inflation rates?
Disappointed by the low CRP for Singapore GP this month?
You will receive CRP ranging from 70-200+ e-points... only. It all depends on which phases of Singapore GP you bought. As for SP, maybe you won't want to cash out since the sum is so... insignificant. Some BRM will also charge you 2% for administration in cashing out. Some will even charge you up to 7% to make a quick buck since Singaporeans can only cash out from their BRM from this day onwards, till CAD unfreeze SE's funds. This is in line with the new and improved e-wallet withdrawal system which will take 14 working days.
I am proud to inform you that once again, SE has went back against the Merchant Agreement Form and chose to give a lower CRP this month, perhaps to silence the critics.
Perhaps the 10% global turnover in your previous agreement form should have come with an asterix... saying JH can, at will, manipulate the cash rebates to protect other countries merchants and Singapore BRMs. Why can't he? He owns SE Singapore. He refuses to release sales figures for November 2007 in Singapore.
Please do not worry for the CRP for International GPs (Em Pin) and any OTHER countries is at 730.26 e-pts. Isn't it great to be a foreign talent?
Forget about asking your uplines. Please kindly approach your BRM for details. They will kindly assist you so as to use this chance to shine and also justify their 6-digit income. However, please expect the blame to be pushed on the following;
1. MediaCorp
2. SPH
3. MAS
4. CAD
4. All of the above
You may also want to note, BRM have been collecting GP from all other nations since August 2006, which is to say they are not really affected by the pathethic CRP for Singapore this month. Should SE close down in Singapore, no worries, Se will move HQ to Hong Kong.
Your kind BRM will also explain why even your Singapore GPs for various phases is all DIFFERENT.
For best results, please consult the BRM who likes to post/pose on forums and unofficial blogs in Room 7 of the Toa Payoh office. No worries, he has more than S$250,000 at least in reserve to pay for fines imposed by SE on his not-so-obedient merchants.
To the newly weds who bought Singapore GPs, congratulations, please approach your kind moon lighting property agents from HSR. I am sure 70-200+ e-points is enough to finance your housing loans for this month, as promised by your HSR-cum-SE-property-MLM-two-in-one agent.
To whom it may concern:
I am not so mean. I will not expose you. Maybe not yet. But, well done. 2 offices both in Toa Payoh, sell property and GP at the same time. Shrewd... And yes, i am killing off competition.
A very propaganda immuned and pissed off SEM...
Observer82 -
p.s. the saving grace is for those Singaporeans who DO own GPs from other countries. Did you follow by advice in my very earlier posts? I was hinting to buy foreign GP (higher CRP) if you can afford as they are immune to the political climate in Singapore. Why JH... why...? have you forgotten about Singaporea SEM's plight? What happened to your promise of universal CRP? This is not NTI anymore, you can't change plan as and when you like, right? No?
Let's have a commercial break and hear from our kind SPONSORS.
HSR
Your First Choice In Real Estate
Since 1980
To make a positive difference through leading-edge services.
Welcome to our warm, dynamic, and caring family.
www.hsr.com.sg
HSR International Realtors Pte Ltd
Company Reg No. 198103602Z
GST Reg No M2-0056013-2
House Agent's Licence No. AD 041-3002226G
190 Lorong 6 Toa Payoh #02-514 Singapore 310190
Tel: (65) 6559 8888
Fax: (65) 6559 8889
Fictional suggestion for prank callers.
"Hello HSR?
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Ah ya... can you please recommend that super hardworking 2-in-1 property agent?
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No lah, I mean the ones who moon light under different fake names and NRIC in Sunshine Empire..
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What do you mean why?
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You mean you dunno Sunshine Empire can sign up without using NRIC?
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So as not be caught by your HSR company la. Serious offense leh, clash of interests. But then hor, insurance agents also doing it what.
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What!? You didn't know they exist?
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ZOMG! Oh, anyway, he is Mr XXXXXX X. XXX. Oh yes, I have BOTH his name cards from HSR and Sunshine Empire.
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Hello!?
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Hello??? Oei!?" -
Observer82, where does SE invest all our money in? None of their projects had taken off yet
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Err, Meixin? Hit the wrong hole le. ~Originally posted by Observer82:p.s. Kiyo77, patience ok? The concert review can wait. There is a reason why I post this table here. Ok, ok, I know what you are thinking. I saw the Mei Xin commercials on TV. What did I tell you? She can't sing! But her Ballerina cosplay was hot that night at the concert. Woot! >_<
Never seen any of her show or listen to her song before, so too bad.
Local Talent? Is Corrinne May for me, the rest is fine but doesn't tick me as much.
Just curious to see what else is going to fit the rest of the page that you gonna amaze us, sadly so far nothing for me yet.
p/s - do not magnetize us with your very own obsession with her please
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Observer82 - please just remain as what your nick suggests and refrain from posting incongruous comments to distract everyone from the main issue.
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VS.Originally posted by Observer82:You will receive CRP ranging from 70-200+ e-points... only. It all depends on which phases of Singapore GP you bought. As for SP, maybe you won't want to cash out since the sum is so... insignificant. Some BRM will also charge you 2% for administration in cashing out. Some will even charge you up to 7% to make a quick buck since Singaporeans can only cash out from their BRM from this day onwards, till CAD unfreeze SE's funds. This is in line with the new and improved e-wallet withdrawal system which will take 14 working days.
Damn, we got a case here.......Originally posted by SUNSHINE OSAMA:SUNSHINE EMPIRE IS A SCAM, A FRAUD AND ARE LIARS.
CAD OFFICE CONFIRMED THAT THEY DID NOT FREEZE SUNSHINE EMPIRE
BANK A/C. SSE CAN CONTINUE THEIR DAILY TRANSACTIONS, MAKE
PAYMENTS AND REFUND THE INVESTORS.
ANYONE CAN CALL CAD TEL: 65573918 TO VERIFY AND CONFIRM.
THE MEDIA SHOULD BE INFORMED TO EXPOSE SSE LIES. ANYONE
WHO WISH TO WITHDRAW OR ASK FOR REFUND CAN DO SO.
Well I guess if there is a massive withdrawal SSE will have to close
down. The Managers, uplines commission will be clawback.
CSI needed, one of you is definitely delusional.....hmmm which one of you is ?
CAD is a name for show ? Cover up?
Please do respect our nation law enforcement agency or government policies even if you don't like them. -
Thanks for the reply. If CAD did not freeze their accounts and SE is paying much lesser than promised..... SE is confirmed dying faster than anyone would have tot.Originally posted by SUNSHINE OSAMA:GREETINGS, BRAINS.
SUNSHINE EMPIRE IS UNDER CAD INVESTIGATION.
CALL CAD OFFICE AND FIND OUT YOURSELF. THEY ARE
VERY COURTEOUS AND POLITE.
TEL: 65573918
MY TELEPHONE CONVERSATION WITH CAD OFFICER
ON MONDAY IS PRIVATE AND CONFIDENTIAL.
I WAS A GOLD MERCHANT AND ALL MY DOWNLINES ARE
ALSO GOLD MERCHANTS. NOW I AM A RENEGADE.
CHEERS.
Frankly, as much as I despise JP, i seriously tot he is more capable to sustain SE over 2 years at the minimum.. -
I am puzzled by ur P/S line.... do advertisement no money liao meh??? So do u think wif advertisement is better???/ and u get the same payout???Originally posted by Observer82:Hello Forumers,
I had wanted to share information with everyone about the CRP for the month of November 2007 that is paid out today on 10th Dec.
I am pleased to read about several accurate but somewhat biased detective work. I mean it; keep up the good work. I am very appreciative for the criticism about SE. Because I have done my best to speak to influential people in SE but more often than not, my advise have fallen on deaf ears, especially to the 6 digit earning BRMs, GSDs and RSDs.
Am not sure if anyone remember my previous posts (no, not the unfinished SE concert review, but I will complete it!); I had written about the CRP system and I am somewhat disturbed that the weakness of this business module is exposed in November 2007; that is; the lack of confidence VS Singaporean's obedience to the political climate. Ok, nvm, I won't go in to that; the part of Singapore's government wanting a pie in businesses, specially profitable ones.
I will compile all the CRP for ALL COUNTRIES and post them for all to view in due time. I will also comment. For those who have PM messaged me, you know who you are, I do not believe that free speech should be restricted in Singapore; sorry. Go workers party!
Thanks for reading.
p.s.
Btw, SE as a Network marketing company can NOT do advertisement. If they do, there will be no more commission left!
Not every company like that leh.....
At least there is one who advertise.... -
HONESTLYOriginally posted by mihiro:money game is one thing, cursing is another.
so if i were to curse or using swearing words not to you but to ur family member or whoever is close to you, and i guess that doesnt concern u. at all... ic -.-
If my family members or even parents would be in such a scam.... ppls swear or even curse them... i haf to accept.... bcos i owe ppl an explanation.
Unless u say that what they do dont concern u at all....
I have relatives ( who commited suicide bcos he owe ppl too much money that his downlines put in MAGIC KINGDOM and dun ask me why we never report police... we checked wif the lawyers and we do not haf a case )and my parent fallen victims to his previous SCAMS...... so i curse not only him.... but to his ancestors 18 LEVELS......
His whole family... LEG BREAK , ARM BREAK , BLIND , MUTE , DEAF but leave him alive... so as to let him suffer and see his KHARMA.... its too cheap to let him die....
If u newver gone through hunger in Ethopia.... dun be as if like u know wats going on BITCH!!! -
seriously i know how you feel.....BUT it is useless if you curse in here...This is just forums....DO NO HARM AT ALL TO YOUR OPPONENT/ENEMY...
YOU can bring them down. Pester the authorities. Get them give answers to you. Ask the authorities do they allow people to misuse their power or name?
Sunshine Empire has been challenging the authorities and even make public announcements that the authorities cannot do much and seems useless (what a joke to say about SINGAPORE authorities efficiencies.)...
Whack the reporters who had made reports on Sunshine Empire. Ask them why speculate news on SCAM company and hang there. Why not proceed to disclose this company? Are they being paid to report nice things?
well.....AVG..you can do alot besides cursing in here..my friend. -
o_0|| easy my friend, never did i pretend to know everything, from the statement given, you are saying that they invest in magic kingdom and you did not do anything about it , so if ppl curse you becos of your parent, you will accept it as well?Originally posted by AVG:HONESTLY
If my family members or even parents would be in such a scam.... ppls swear or even curse them... i haf to accept.... bcos i owe ppl an explanation.
Unless u say that what they do dont concern u at all....
I have relatives ( who commited suicide bcos he owe ppl too much money that his downlines put in MAGIC KINGDOM and dun ask me why we never report police... we checked wif the lawyers and we do not haf a case )and my parent fallen victims to his previous SCAMS...... so i curse not only him.... but to his ancestors 18 LEVELS......
His whole family... LEG BREAK , ARM BREAK , BLIND , MUTE , DEAF but leave him alive... so as to let him suffer and see his KHARMA.... its too cheap to let him die....
If u newver gone through hunger in Ethopia.... dun be as if like u know wats going on BITCH!!!
anyway wat u said i may not know whether is true or not, but from the way you wrote and even scolded me , i am doubting on everything u said-.- ... -
This chap has a good way of caculating the bursting of the SE bubble..
http://detach.qqblogs.com/blog.php?blog=detach&entry=14804 -
One of the point is very trueOriginally posted by abductboy:This chap has a good way of caculating the bursting of the SE bubble..
http://detach.qqblogs.com/blog.php?blog=detach&entry=14804
They are getting back only bits and pieces of their own money, and not profits
It seems everyone is working towards recouping capital, which is funny -
ppl with economic sense will know it will never last. well we dont know WHO are those 20000 Gp in singapore right? what kind of ppl make up this 20k? uncles and aunties that have no economic sense and whatsoever kwowledge about this pyramid scheme? or teenagers that are enticed by greed? i would say MOST ppl are just being lured into the scheme to feed a few tigers. how on earth each individual is going to get his frens and relatives to join? it will end up sg every1 part of SE isnt it? moreover there are many ppl with common sense out there. not everyone is able to cough up 12k as well.
oh yes 1 thing that person mentioned about is really true. getting epoints and redeem them for products. its basically the same as u pay cash for those products in a different way. so end up u buy those products on ecommerce platform and then slowly get back cash returns ( not guaranteed ) each month. -
It seems that the early birds did get back their money. How much is another question. And I believe this is for show only.Originally posted by laurence82:One of the point is very true
They are getting back only bits and pieces of their own money, and not profits
It seems everyone is working towards recouping capital, which is funny
The greatest mystery is... WHERE IN THE WORLD DOES AH WAH INVEST THE MONEY INTO TO GET SUCH HIGH RETURNS.
They say what property, telecoms. These are currently "under construction", if they are real. But I'm saying NOW. Where does the money come from? Other ppl?
For the past 2 months or so no one of the Sons of The Father had replied me sensibily. -
Right on, Redstone!
For the longest time I read how the anti-SE critics had been questioning how the 700 epoints are cacluated every month.
The SE members waved them away.
After CAD investigation begin, they toe the line given by SE to repeat EMALL, EMALL, EMALL.
Now EMALL has been disabled (the BUY Button no longer works), and he payout is like 20-30%.
Actually, since the monthly payout is tied to emall, so why is SE members now asking how is the payout calculated???
EMALL is not making money, so you are not getting anything.
What you have been getting is just monthly handout given at the whims of SE.
Why do you think CAD is involved? Invitation by SE?
Or because it's a banking/investment system that operates without proper regulatory controls. Even loansharks who lent money out of own pocket to others for a fat interest must have banking license. -
Thanks, abductboyOriginally posted by abductboy:Right on, Redstone!
For the longest time I read how the anti-SE critics had been questioning how the 700 epoints are cacluated every month.
The SE members waved them away.
After CAD investigation begin, they toe the line given by SE to repeat EMALL, EMALL, EMALL.
Now EMALL has been disabled (the BUY Button no longer works), and he payout is like 20-30%.
Actually, since the monthly payout is tied to emall, so why is SE members now asking how is the payout calculated???
EMALL is not making money, so you are not getting anything.
What you have been getting is just monthly handout given at the whims of SE.
Why do you think CAD is involved? Invitation by SE?
Or because it's a banking/investment system that operates without proper regulatory controls. Even loansharks who lent money out of own pocket to others for a fat interest must have banking license.
Emall, you're dealing with points, not physical cash, credit or any form of money. So say one day Emall closes down, all would be gone.
And are the "e points" equivalent in cash greater than the value in cash people put in?
Btw, any idea why Emall was shut down?
In order for Emall to generate such fantastic high returns, it would need the popularity of say eBay. -
I thought this has been answered many times.Originally posted by redstone:...
The greatest mystery is... WHERE IN THE WORLD DOES AH WAH INVEST THE MONEY INTO TO GET SUCH HIGH RETURNS.
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In the Sunshine Empire there exists a Magic Kingdom where James Phang farts gold for his loyal subjects.
Hey c'mon... at least this theory is more plausible than the property or wireless investments. -
Btw, any idea why Emall was shut down?
I believed it is because they are transfering to emwealth.
I am not sure why, maybe emall is registered as a company in Singapore and so to get out of Singapore they also move to another country.
So maybe everyone is getting a low payout, inorder to show that payout is linked to emall performance.
It is pretty much a guessing game until we know what is progress of CAD. -
Even ebay does not generate such fantastic high returns.Originally posted by redstone:Thanks, abductboy
Emall, you're dealing with points, not physical cash, credit or any form of money. So say one day Emall closes down, all would be gone.
And are the "e points" equivalent in cash greater than the value in cash people put in?
Btw, any idea why Emall was shut down?
In order for Emall to generate such fantastic high returns, it would need the popularity of say eBay.
http://finance.google.com/finance?q=ebay
Only magic can generate the kinds of returns that are promised.