Repost: Sunshine Empire
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why still got people want to invest?Originally posted by Felt Cheated By NTI:My friend just jio me to their investment talk. He said that he just invested and asked me want to invest a not. Sianzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Apparently, Division D had messaged its downlines that accounts are still being frozen - CAD needs at least another three months so it says. So much for telling people in their seminars how there appears to be nothing against SE and that their name "will be cleared soon".
Funny how it still entices people to get more GPs although payout is so horrid. A Div D downline told me some MingJie guy, guess he's like heading the Div, brags how he has 100GPs. That would mean he has put in $1,200,000 in SE? HA. He claims that should anything go wrong, he would take his own money to help his downlines. Oh purleeze. -
nope, according to how binary works, the more you buy, the price of the GPs is cheaper,meaning to say if you have a huge network the GPs might cost you less than 4k?(i don know, maybe u wan to do some calculation here) and furthermore, he have a bunch of downlines that provide him with more GPs.Originally posted by shapeshifter:Apparently, Division D had messaged its downlines that accounts are still being frozen - CAD needs at least another three months so it says. So much for telling people in their seminars how there appears to be nothing against SE and that their name "will be cleared soon".
Funny how it still entices people to get more GPs although payout is so horrid. A Div D downline told me some MingJie guy, guess he's like heading the Div, brags how he has 100GPs. That would mean he has put in $1,200,000 in SE? HA. He claims that should anything go wrong, he would take his own money to help his downlines. Oh purleeze.
based on what you stated, if anything goes wrong, which means that he will suffer as well, how the heck he gonna help his downlines when he himself suffered great loss -_-, makes no sense at all. -
i heard my freind just sell their e-point to new comers.. its sucks tactics
wonder if nobody join this stupid games, then how the new comers will get the cash insteed of stupid e-point like had been used by swisscash etc
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Yeah, the uplines make themselves out to seem so kind and protective, but when the shit hits the fan, how much money do they really have to donate to their downlines la.
Anyone saw LocalKing's latest post by kisah? It shows that Indonesia has listed SE as a potentially illegal investment practice. Source validity needs to be checked though. -
seriously, there is no use doing wild guessing and we can only wait for the result from CAD. Right now, we can only warn people about the dangers of SE. btw, we have reach 76 pages, lol top in the mlm forum
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Suddenly payout damn low? Pyramid scam?Originally posted by shapeshifter:Apparently, Division D had messaged its downlines that accounts are still being frozen - CAD needs at least another three months so it says. So much for telling people in their seminars how there appears to be nothing against SE and that their name "will be cleared soon".
Funny how it still entices people to get more GPs although payout is so horrid. A Div D downline told me some MingJie guy, guess he's like heading the Div, brags how he has 100GPs. That would mean he has put in $1,200,000 in SE? HA. He claims that should anything go wrong, he would take his own money to help his downlines. Oh purleeze.
They can't even answer the most basic question of where does the money come from. -
Dun see much of those young MLM-ers outside the Toa Payoh mosburger and Mc nowadays ...
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business is bad.........lol
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And payout suddenly dropped.Originally posted by xdrave:business is bad.........lol
So that answers the million dollar question where does all the money come from. -
And perhaps months or years later, there will be a post about how they are basically good people, how they were conned as well, but even when they found out, they needed to get back their money; How they are human as well, how they did their best to help their downlines, etc.
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Sounds like what happened to Avita peopleOriginally posted by Phaze:And perhaps months or years later, there will be a post about how they are basically good people, how they were conned as well, but even when they found out, they needed to get back their money; How they are human as well, how they did their best to help their downlines, etc.
Things repeat themselves in a cycle, eh? -
Ya. This is what i heard. Their recent payout is as low as 20+ USD. Haiz......... SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Originally posted by redstone:Suddenly payout damn low? Pyramid scam?
They can't even answer the most basic question of where does the money come from. -
his own money is also inside SE "BANK" ler....if SE gone....his $ also gone ler ~Originally posted by shapeshifter:Apparently, Division D had messaged its downlines that accounts are still being frozen - CAD needs at least another three months so it says. So much for telling people in their seminars how there appears to be nothing against SE and that their name "will be cleared soon".
Funny how it still entices people to get more GPs although payout is so horrid. A Div D downline told me some MingJie guy, guess he's like heading the Div, brags how he has 100GPs. That would mean he has put in $1,200,000 in SE? HA. He claims that should anything go wrong, he would take his own money to help his downlines. Oh purleeze.
100GP........wow he must better be one of the RMS (Rich Man Son) else wont IRAS or CAD be interest how can he have so much money?
*left over dough from NTI?*
or those 100GP is his "because" the 85% are belong to his donwlines?
Then so far highest GP i heard was from a Malaysian, 15GP....not sure he did re-invest or not. -
JP: Magic Kingdom? Hey I am a "Victim" too!!!!!!Originally posted by laurence82:Sounds like what happened to Avita people
Things repeat themselves in a cycle, eh? -
Magic Kingdom in Melaka...Originally posted by kyoshirou77:JP: Magic Kingdom? Hey I am a "Victim" too!!!!!!
Is the actual site layout available to any of the SE Buyers????
Refer to the current homepage: http://www.empirepropertyventure.com/
As compare with the former: http://www.empirepropertyventure.com/home.html
This is like.. lego land... -
so little!?Originally posted by Felt Cheated By NTI:Ya. This is what i heard. Their recent payout is as low as 20+ USD. Haiz......... SCAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -
yea that DEC rebates...some big hoo haa in SE said its time for a change.Originally posted by gky:so little!?
Wonder how is JAN 08 Payout. -
well, since their payout is supposedly not related to their recruitment, why the shortfall? how do they explain to their agents? their godfather is no longer a miracle maker?
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This already proves beyond resonable doubt that its 99% a scamOriginally posted by fire & ice:well, since their payout is supposedly not related to their recruitment, why the shortfall? how do they explain to their agents? their godfather is no longer a miracle maker?
Abduct: First time I see a property company shifting entire buildings, changing designs after the property was sold. -
But wait! SE has never missed a payment! That proves they are bigger than Microsoft, Google, and GE combined!
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http://www.empirepropertyventure.com/gallery_esv_progress.htmlOriginally posted by abductboy:Refer to the current homepage: http://www.empirepropertyventure.com/
As compare with the former: http://www.empirepropertyventure.com/home.html
This is like.. lego land...
Work being done so far....the man power seem a little less...not a bid deal for surveying and Piling though...
Don't give in so much faith yet.....no grand opening is still no work "being done"....some abandoned projects are skyscraper height.
Was wandering who is their Main Contractor yet......my uncles are into BNE in Malaysia.
They can help me out to verify any dubious coy ~ -
wah, pay 20 bucks then say its time for a changeOriginally posted by kyoshirou77:yea that DEC rebates...some big hoo haa in SE said its time for a change.
Wonder how is JAN 08 Payout.
simi excuse sia -
And because they have such a greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat leader who's better than Buffett!Originally posted by Phaze:But wait! SE has never missed a payment! That proves they are bigger than Microsoft, Google, and GE combined! -
well, the day will come for all to see the fall of this company sunshine empire or any of it's subsidiary companies and they will stop paying and JAMES PHANG WAH with his pathetic children running away with all investors money.
and the day will be soon!!
Currently SG gov cannot do much as these suckers are still paying. No to all but still. And when there are people who not been paid then they can start to file reports to authorities. My advise will be better to file reports now and maybe you can get a better position in the line of queue for refunding if there is any left.
Althernatively anybody can anytime contact these people below if your investments need to be refund.
JAMES PHANG WAH.
NRIC : S 1378642 I (it will be easy to locate him since now you have his identity number)
HP: 97332212
JACKIE HO
HP: 97860186 (one of the numbers)
Good luck to all...