Repost: Sunshine Empire
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No wonder, tsk tsk, dirty reputation... :/. When i said off topics, it means that it has nothing to do with what the topic is saying , but u are trying very hard to link my off topic opinion to the topic itself.Originally posted by laurence82:I have a dirty reputation and I dont aim to threaten or disrupt this status quo
Anyway, my points do add to the discussions, although mihiro might not agree
I dont see how what I think of SE agents and defenders are wrong
what i said to you, you relate it to another way, and this will go on and on, how am i suppose to convince or prove you wrong when both of us mean differently? and furthermore, u are very firm in ur thoughts.
I stated very clearly that i am not answering for them and not even giving a damn to try. If i would, i would have said something like "you guys are wrong, and this is the prove". Then at this point of time, you would be correct in saying that it has strengthen your point u put across, due to the fact that my point has be refuted and i wasnt able to defend it.
Then it still comes down to the conclusion that ,i still don't see how and what the discussion could strengthened ur point in regards to se. -
wait a minute, so nothing you said relate to topic? so what you been trying to do in this topic? do give us a rest and troll elsewhere, like Bar forum for exampleOriginally posted by mihiro:No wonder, tsk tsk, dirty reputation... :/. When i said off topics, it means that it has nothing to do with what the topic is saying , but u are trying very hard to link my off topic opinion to the topic itself.
what i said to you, you relate it to another way, and this will go on and on, how am i suppose to convince or prove you wrong when both of us mean differently? and furthermore, u are very firm in ur thoughts.
I stated very clearly that i am not answering for them and not even giving a damn to try. If i would, i would have said something like "you guys are wrong, and this is the prove". Then at this point of time, you would be correct in saying that it has strengthen your point u put across, due to the fact that my point has be refuted and i wasnt able to defend it.
Then it still comes down to the conclusion that ,i still don't see how and what the discussion could strengthened ur point in regards to se.
relate to another way? for the umpteenth time, what way, what proof? i dont understand..i can be saying a point and use examples of your trolling to add on my points, and they have been consistent so far..i do not have to ape someone, like what you did, to divert topic
yeap you werent able to defend, which is exactly my point, whether or not its about the trend of escalating issues to this mr dubious Ignious Young, or trotting between negative opinions of forumers or fear of lawsuits...you are contradicting yourself plus not again, being able to defend SE
you couldnt, but i already stated why and how...so its really up to you to release the blindfold from your eyes -
http://www.firstmillionchallenge.com/sunshine-empire-too-good-to-be-true/#comments
Wow, someone had admitted SE is a scam! -
ahhhhhh, u still don't get it, i do know that many of the guys here already know what is my intention right from the start, linking se to this conversation will only cause more contradiction,which sort of proven your point, but then, nvm about it. case close.Originally posted by laurence82:wait a minute, so nothing you said relate to topic? so what you been trying to do in this topic? do give us a rest and troll elsewhere, like Bar forum for example.............
Defend, defend and more defend, i tried my best to emphasize that i don come here to defend them, and is not part of my intention for this conversation. oh well, so be it =].
my apologies to those that i am one of them started this off topic which has nothing to do with SE or anything in regards to that. -
Originally posted by kyoshirou77:
its a bit scary, for an mlm company to fund such a big project, and this mlm company is under trouble themselves. They are developing way too fast that makes people wonder how did they get all this money to do so. Do know that they said those money came from the global sales from SE.
beat this..........
http://www.empirepropertyventure.com/projects_GWV.html
keywords :
[b]1. Global Wonder
2 Journey Into The Unknown
3. Realize Your Fantasies
Haiz......Magic Kingdom 2k2 also no match lol ~[/b]
To me it seems like they can buy land so easily, like what mr jk describe, going supermarket buy vegetable .... :/ -
The land has not existed yet.Originally posted by mihiro:its a bit scary, for an mlm company to fund such a big project, and this mlm company is under trouble themselves. They are developing way too fast that makes people wonder how did they get all this money to do so. Do know that they said those money came from the global sales from SE.
To me it seems like they can buy land so easily, like what mr jk describe, going supermarket buy vegetable .... :/
The 2 Service Suites buildings and the entire Global Wonder Village they are trying to sell now, need to be reclaimed.
Just look at the illustration below to see for yourself:-
I did not add anything but these photos are from EPV website. -
Elaborate?
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its about SE..so if you think you are not, then please stick to topic, for the sake of everyoneOriginally posted by mihiro:ahhhhhh, u still don't get it, i do know that many of the guys here already know what is my intention right from the start, linking se to this conversation will only cause more contradiction,which sort of proven your point, but then, nvm about it. case close.
Defend, defend and more defend, i tried my best to emphasize that i don come here to defend them, and is not part of my intention for this conversation. oh well, so be it =].
my apologies to those that i am one of them started this off topic which has nothing to do with SE or anything in regards to that.
you cant, neither can i defend SE, is it so hard? -
My dad's friend got psycho-ed into SE. The Son of Phang didn't say where SE invests in, but instead brags about how good SE and Father Phang is. He wanted to put in 100K, but when the agents followed him to the bank, they seemed very excited and happy. He felt suspicious and decided not to do with the 100K. Instead settled on his original choice for the 13K package.
Say 13K, payout over of around $1200 over 15 months.
He did get the payout. But at the 4th month, cheques bounched, and theres no more payout ever again. Also no invoice, no receipt, etc.
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cant rem much about legal, but i do know cheque is a legal contract that promise the bearer to pay certain amount of moniesOriginally posted by redstone:My dad's friend got psycho-ed into SE. The Son of Phang didn't say where SE invests in, but instead brags about how good SE and Father Phang is. He wanted to put in 100K, but when the agents followed him to the bank, they seemed very excited and happy. He felt suspicious and decided not to do with the 100K. Instead settled on his original choice for the 13K package.
Say 13K, payout over of around $1200 over 15 months.
He did get the payout. But at the 4th month, cheques bounched, and theres no more payout ever again. Also no invoice, no receipt, etc.
if it bounce, bearer can sue the payer -
not hard, if u think u cannot defend se, don think i can ba, i can try, but don think i wan.Originally posted by laurence82:its about SE..so if you think you are not, then please stick to topic, for the sake of everyone
you cant, neither can i defend SE, is it so hard?
ahh, case settled, good. -
13k? i thought is 12k? then thereafter they implement the new international GP which is for sales at 6800EP.Originally posted by redstone:My dad's friend got psycho-ed into SE. The Son of Phang didn't say where SE invests in, but instead brags about how good SE and Father Phang is. He wanted to put in 100K, but when the agents followed him to the bank, they seemed very excited and happy. He felt suspicious and decided not to do with the 100K. Instead settled on his original choice for the 13K package.
Say 13K, payout over of around $1200 over 15 months.
He did get the payout. But at the 4th month, cheques bounched, and theres no more payout ever again. Also no invoice, no receipt, etc.
i think this person bought this package just before cad frozen their acc.I wonder how the agent react, sad or angry? -
There are some issues here... one is the points aka EP. It's just an electronic point system, means if SE collapses, all is zero. It's not even of monetary value to begin with, just a point system for you to use to "buy" stuff on their Emall.Originally posted by mihiro:13k? i thought is 12k? then thereafter they implement the new international GP which is for sales at 6800EP.
i think this person bought this package just before cad frozen their acc.I wonder how the agent react, sad or angry?
Second is monetary payout, I wonder what is the payout now? And had everyone recovered their initial capital?
Third, is the most basic question, where does this monetary payout come from? Before the properties start selling.
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wa bro. so long liao still repeating these stuffs ah. buay sian?
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u so long liao still havent answer my question, and still pop out? Ah buay sian?Originally posted by mlmlover:wa bro. so long liao still repeating these stuffs ah. buay sian? 
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settled? far offOriginally posted by mihiro:not hard, if u think u cannot defend se, don think i can ba, i can try, but don think i wan.
ahh, case settled, good.
what about our 'negative opinions' that make SE agents not wanting to defend themselves? what about the later change to 'fear of lawsuits'? what about the silly notion that investors have no clue and we have to ask mr ignious young? so on and so forth?
...oh well, since you "dont know" what you did say before.... -
awwwwh, , i mean settled for the discussion we are having, which has nothing to do with the thread.Originally posted by laurence82:settled? far off
what about our 'negative opinions' that make SE agents not wanting to defend themselves? what about the later change to 'fear of lawsuits'? what about the silly notion that investors have no clue and we have to ask mr ignious young? so on and so forth?
...oh well, since you "dont know" what you did say before....
what i said before in this discussion is more of coming after you,against you. i guess that many can see that liao, but u ..ermmmm haizzzz....
fear of lawsuits and the defending question is left for those who would like to defend for se and to elaborate this question or to prove me wrong.
oh well, yet again and again >_>" -
i dont know, but discussing behaviour of agents or defenders are also a part of the topic, which has been the case hereOriginally posted by mihiro:awwwwh, , i mean settled for the discussion we are having, which has nothing to do with the thread.
what i said before in this discussion is more of coming after you,against you. i guess that many can see that liao, but u ..ermmmm haizzzz....
fear of lawsuits and the defending question is left for those who would like to defend for se and to elaborate this question or to prove me wrong.
oh well, yet again and again >_>"
since a lot of forumers do have contacts with agents and report what they do or behave here
i am not sure why you wish to make personal attacks and coming after me, but my advice is, if you wish to do these things, please go elsewhere and do not divert the topic from the issues at hand
i dont know, if you have enough hard facts to speak for the many here, so spare me that as well
third point, again, its quite incoherent, do rephrase that
yes, again and again, if you do not wish to participate in the critical issues here, do leave the topic for the sake of everyone yeah? -
woo i'm back from HK,
been so busy, The CAD investigation is really making things so inconvienient,
Anyway i have news that CAD have only a 6 months investigation time,
March 28 will be the final verdict.
So lets just wait till than, No point argueing over who's milk taste better.
Mihiro : your arguments with laurence cannot la, his replies are like " my penis bigger, yours smaller type of replies..
Leave him alone to troll in the forum -
make things difficult for the good of the public?
so did your check bounces like everyone else? -
Cause, i realised its pretty much unproductive wasting time in this forums,
Read the entertainment page,
"yesterday i tried to suck my gf...."
"Yesterday i saw one ah ma...."
So cheers my little kiddo buddies -
Yup it bounced,Originally posted by laurence82:make things difficult for the good of the public?
so did your check bounces like everyone else?
Bank Account freeze ma,
Never bounce got big problem...
thought you very updated,
either you are a dumb shit who doesn't know shit about banking
or you trying to stir something...
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Unfortunately you miss the point.Originally posted by christopher_rf:Yup it bounced,
Bank Account freeze ma,
Never bounce got big problem...
thought you very updated,
either you are a dumb shit who doesn't know shit about banking
or you trying to stir something...
haha
Why would they issue cheques when it's frozen and bound to bounce? -
All along you have never answered the issues in this forumOriginally posted by christopher_rf:Cause, i realised its pretty much unproductive wasting time in this forums,
Read the entertainment page,
"yesterday i tried to suck my gf...."
"Yesterday i saw one ah ma...."
So cheers my little kiddo buddies
How to convince anyone that this is unproductive, when so many damning points come up almost everyday?
It used to be forums only, now even blogs have new damning information on SE
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Its obvious they issued Cheques before the Freezing of the Bank Account..Originally posted by laurence82:Unfortunately you miss the point.
Why would they issue cheques when it's frozen and bound to bounce?
You must either be dumb or stupid to not know that,
Its commonsense