Originally posted by dazhutou:hmm..of course there's no such thing as free meal.got to work for it..
well i do know that..but my actual question is: what does that (your thread reply) have to do with this thread?
moreover, you are neither contributing/replying/asking a question, and it is not related to the thread subject in anyway.
so why post a unrelated post in this thread to begin with? Increase your posts/thread reply numbers?
Hmmm thnks anyway the_fallen...appreciate your reply...
I'm not doing well in my studies...And I don't see a future in it...Going around finding something that can help my future...So I guess I'm gonna join LFI.
Originally posted by Kaziac kasmadi:Hmmm thnks anyway the_fallen...appreciate your reply...
I'm not doing well in my studies...And I don't see a future in it...Going around finding something that can help my future...So I guess I'm gonna join LFI.
join any mlm company not because of whatever promises the sales agents told you, but rather instead join any company only because you can identify and aline yourself with the company.
in simpler/layman terms, will the company be able to help/assist you in reaching your goal (with or without) your sales agent's involvement.
there are many other alternatives besides MLM fyi, just look around first and explore..there are lots of employment which are all hands-on too.
Yup, i couldn't agree more, the_fallen.
the_fallen, you've provided solid value to the people in dealing with their MLM queries. Are you a veteran in the industry?
In any case, Kaziac kasmadi, just to add. Don't look at MLM as a "greener pasture" as compared to your studies. The fact that most networkers quit is mainly due to their lack of business/marketing knowledge and the fact that most are buying on a "hope" or a "dream".
Nevertheless, if you've already become a distributor, I wish all the best and if you have any questions, we will be more than willing to help you.
Originally posted by Heider Hassan:Yup, i couldn't agree more, the_fallen.
the_fallen, you've provided solid value to the people in dealing with their MLM queries. Are you a veteran in the industry?
In any case, Kaziac kasmadi, just to add. Don't look at MLM as a "greener pasture" as compared to your studies. The fact that most networkers quit is mainly due to their lack of business/marketing knowledge and the fact that most are buying on a "hope" or a "dream".
Nevertheless, if you've already become a distributor, I wish all the best and if you have any questions, we will be more than willing to help you.
thanks for your compliments.
regarding your question..that's not important..what's important is that they don't get ripped off by those black sheeps who are irresponsible which makes up the majority to begin with..
Originally posted by the_fallen:thanks for your compliments.
regarding your question..that's not important..what's important is that they don't get ripped off by those black sheeps who are irresponsible which makes up the majority to begin with..
ok, i wish to stress out that MLM is a perfectly legit business and one that can lead you to financial independence if you have the tools to help you succeed.
The industry is getting a bad rep is really because of the way the business is being done, not because of the business model. So quit putting generalize statement that MLM is a scam when clearly it is a misleading statement. With regards to people saying it's a pyramid scheme, c'mon enlighten me please.
Yes, it is true the top(MD, VP etc) earns the most but that's just about the same as anywhere in the world right? BUT, the beauty of Network Marketing is that it allows you to build your own "pyramid". The question is which part of the pyramid do you want to be at? So instead of having to work 100% of yourself, it's always better to have 1% of you working spreading across 100 people.
But if I am being perfectly honest, that's not the reason why people are against MLM.That's just pure ignorance and lack of understanding. Instead, it is really because it doesn't allow you to become a legit entrepreneur.
Why?
a) You don't own anything (products, downline, company)
b) The only way that you are able to stand out from the competition is by standing side by side with your uplines and "duplicating" what he is doing.
c) No automated tools/systems (that creates REAL leverage; when you teach others the same thing, you literally have a franchise)
If your only weapon in Network Marketing is your phone and your ability to withstand rejection, you're fighting tanks with sticks. And as the 21st century unfolds, the problem's going to get worse, not better.
This means you'll be forced to recruit everyday for the lifespan of your business just to combat the constant attrition that will plague your organization thanks to Google.
Originally posted by Heider Hassan:ok, i wish to stress out that MLM is a perfectly legit business and one that can lead you to financial independence if you have the tools to help you succeed.
The industry is getting a bad rep is really because of the way the business is being done, not because of the business model. So quit putting generalize statement that MLM is a scam when clearly it is a misleading statement. With regards to people saying it's a pyramid scheme, c'mon enlighten me please.
Yes, it is true the top(MD, VP etc) earns the most but that's just about the same as anywhere in the world right? BUT, the beauty of Network Marketing is that it allows you to build your own "pyramid". The question is which part of the pyramid do you want to be at? So instead of having to work 100% of yourself, it's always better to have 1% of you working spreading across 100 people.
But if I am being perfectly honest, that's not the reason why people are against MLM.That's just pure ignorance and lack of understanding. Instead, it is really because it doesn't allow you to become a legit entrepreneur.
Why?
a) You don't own anything (products, downline, company)
b) The only way that you are able to stand out from the competition is by standing side by side with your uplines and "duplicating" what he is doing.
c) No automated tools/systems (that creates REAL leverage; when you teach others the same thing, you literally have a franchise)
If your only weapon in Network Marketing is your phone and your ability to withstand rejection, you're fighting tanks with sticks. And as the 21st century unfolds, the problem's going to get worse, not better.
This means you'll be forced to recruit everyday for the lifespan of your business just to combat the constant attrition that will plague your organization thanks to Google.
I appreciate your kind intentions to talk about the contents, but if you want to show-case your "rich-intelligence", kindly OPEN YOUR OWN THREAD, don't attempt to hijack my thread in attempt to build creditability for yourself being a new user.
such a action is a underhand practice which i classify as blacksheep fyi
PLUS: note the subject of my thread posting: "ASK Your Questions"..if you have no questions, and isn't helping out in answering, than you have no business to be here hi-jacking my thread for your own benefits.
you do not post a lot of info which is unasked for..unasked questions with answers posted = junk in my own perspective..so stop unloading your junk in my thread which will only complicate other newbie users who really hope to get their questions answer.
if you want to be a friendly user and contribute in my thread, i'll will welcome any helpful thread replies with open arms, BUT if you come in to hi-jack like you just did, i'll at most give you the same treatment like the other users who tried to flame my threads..
read up past thread replies/post if you don't know the extent of my mlm knowledge.
Originally posted by the_fallen:I appreciate your kind intentions to talk about the contents, but if you want to show-case your "rich-intelligence", kindly OPEN YOUR OWN THREAD, don't attempt to hijack my thread in attempt to build creditability for yourself being a new user.
such a action is a underhand practice which i classify as blacksheep fyi
PLUS: note the subject of my thread posting: "ASK Your Questions"..if you have no questions, and isn't helping out in answering, than you have no business to be here hi-jacking my thread for your own benefits.
you do not post a lot of info which is unasked for..unasked questions with answers posted = junk in my own perspective..so stop unloading your junk in my thread which will only complicate other newbie users who really hope to get their questions answer.
if you want to be a friendly user and contribute in my thread, i'll will welcome any helpful thread replies with open arms, BUT if you come in to hi-jack like you just did, i'll at most give you the same treatment like the other users who tried to flame my threads..
read up past thread replies/post if you don't know the extent of my mlm knowledge.
I can understand. No one enjoys getting a reply like that. At the same time, looking at it from the other side, it's also reasonable why someone like me will want to protect their industry real image and its potential.
In my mind, there's nothing wrong with providing an information that will serve the forum better, but there's nothing wrong with someone trying to stop it either given that you are the owner of this thread.
I apologized for any misunderstanding and made an adjustment in my reply with your concerns considered.
After the dust settles we remember we'll only be on the planet for a short time--we're all on the same team--or we can be.
We all have ego's and they can be a powerful thing. You flexed your legal muscle, but that's not my arena. My arena is social media and transparency. By posting this, I have accepted the consequences it will bring (possibly escalation of being banned, alienating a few readers, etc.)
Like it or not all of us are leaders in this industry just as you are. To be divided means less success for all involved, including those coming here and being confused by the matter.
I think it's time for some healing. That could actually turn a negative into a big positive.
Heider
Originally posted by Heider Hassan:I can understand. No one enjoys getting a reply like that. At the same time, looking at it from the other side, it's also reasonable why someone like me will want to protect their industry real image and its potential.
In my mind, there's nothing wrong with providing an information that will serve the forum better, but there's nothing wrong with someone trying to stop it either given that you are the owner of this thread.
I apologized for any misunderstanding and made an adjustment in my reply with your concerns considered.
After the dust settles we remember we'll only be on the planet for a short time--we're all on the same team--or we can be.
We all have ego's and they can be a powerful thing. You flexed your legal muscle, but that's not my arena. My arena is social media and transparency. By posting this, I have accepted the consequences it will bring (possibly escalation of being banned, alienating a few readers, etc.)
Like it or not all of us are leaders in this industry just as you are. To be divided means less success for all involved, including those coming here and being confused by the matter.
I think it's time for some healing. That could actually turn a negative into a big positive.
Heider
before you can do all those mention in your post above which i've quoted..learn the culture and practice of the new terrain you're entering..
not knowing the culture = committing suicide (having said that, the rest is history)
plus the other thing..you may not understand the idea of junk in my definition..so i'll quote a simple layman example..
example #1 >> everyday people who live in HDB flats get flyers at their 1) their letterbox and 2) their unit/doorstep..
how does those flyers/advertisment end up in >> rubbish bin or used to store bones for food before throwing away..
value of giving unwanted info = it builds a rubbish image of your services delivery.. and the likelihood of you getting leads/queries from unhappy clients = 0%..
example #2 >> would you like others to nag at your when they are telling their story not related to you in anyway >> often our mothers will be doing the nagging when the issue/problem isn't related to us in anyway..than you'll turn off/pissed off than relationship gets worse..
as for your arena whatsoever..you're in the wrong place fyi.. example #3 >> you don't tell a cat owner that you can cure her beloved cat problems when you're a baby specialist right? (and that is being completely irrelevant)
think about customer service and sales for reference if you still don't know
if you still want to unload your junk..don't do it in my thread at the very least.
Don't slap yourself in the face>> refer to highlight text in red in my quote of your reply..>>you know others don't like..but you still do it..
Lastly >>Don't reply back..in this thread..do it in private message (PM me) if you want to explain etc..i can listen/read but i don't want junk which are non-related to confuse the readers in this forum..knowing that it is in no way related to the subject of the topic.
Thank You for your cooperation.
Originally posted by the_fallen:before you can do all those mention in your post above which i've quoted..learn the culture and practice of the new terrain you're entering..
not knowing the culture = committing suicide (having said that, the rest is history)
plus the other thing..you may not understand the idea of junk in my definition..so i'll quote a simple layman example..
example #1 >> everyday people who live in HDB flats get flyers at their 1) their letterbox and 2) their unit/doorstep..
how does those flyers/advertisment end up in >> rubbish bin or used to store bones for food before throwing away..
value of giving unwanted info = it builds a rubbish image of your services delivery.. and the likelihood of you getting leads/queries from unhappy clients = 0%..
example #2 >> would you like others to nag at your when they are telling their story not related to you in anyway >> often our mothers will be doing the nagging when the issue/problem isn't related to us in anyway..than you'll turn off/pissed off than relationship gets worse..
as for your arena whatsoever..you're in the wrong place fyi.. example #3 >> you don't tell a cat owner that you can cure her beloved cat problems when you're a baby specialist right? (and that is being completely irrelevant)
think about customer service and sales for reference if you still don't know
if you still want to unload your junk..don't do it in my thread at the very least.
Don't slap yourself in the face>> refer to highlight text in red in my quote of your reply..>>you know others don't like..but you still do it..
Lastly >>Don't reply back..in this thread..do it in private message (PM me) if you want to explain etc..i can listen/read but i don't want junk which are non-related to confuse the readers in this forum..knowing that it is in no way related to the subject of the topic.
Thank You for your cooperation.
You know what? Let's get off this episode and move on to the main topic. Yes, we both know that going on the discussion will make things worse.
Moving along, that said, I have a question.
You seem to be answering alot of people's question with regards to the industry. Given the amount of money spent in educating yourself with real business and marketing knowledge which I respect, are there are advice(s) would you give for those who are striving to make it big?
Are there any specific niches that you specialize in or any monetization strategies that you are currently implementing? We sure would like to know.
Based on your reply to date, if you really want advice to make it big, it will still be the same reply, stick with the basics.
Don't build castles in the air. >>Meaning to say, anybody can buy a Ferrari to drive. But without the skills and experience to drive and control the car, a new inexperienced driver will crash the car in no-time.
Seond, regarding your technical question about my directions and strategies, it is classified as SECRET.
Reason being so is simple common sense for business minded people, if i find a goal mine, i will want total control and help people who will help me. I will not spread out the word and let competitors fight over the rights of the gold mine and reduce the amount of benefit which I can in-turn provide to those people who I think deserve to be helped.
You being new, and not really know the rules asking me questions in my post, I'll just repeat what I said in the past for the benefit of other newbies inclusive of you who may have questions.
In this forum, I will only address general questions, doubts and queries, anything which I consider to be advanced questions and technical stuffs maybe discussed via PM or in person face-to-face provided the other party knows his/her stuff (knowledge) and exchanged will be made.
As for my strategies, they are considered to be Classified and Business Secrets which will affect my future income. Having said that, it's Zip for my strategies.
When the time is ripe, the tree will bear fruits and benefitting most if not all of those involved.
If you want to compare LFI against normal work there's 1 & only difference: getting a paid job doesn't require anyone to pay $10++ to sign the contract. So, why should we pay (LFI) $10++ jus to help sell their product?
I was from LFI before (I think I still am now but inactive) and I must say that the products are good. The only thing that disturbs me is that my uplines (whoever they are) are earning my sales commission, which I think is not fair because whatever I sell and they'll get money (while shaking legs). Then they state that I (as staters) can too be like them; just need to recruit people (mostly naive, gullible friends) and expand my network which in turn, me earning money easily.
Which boils down to 1 question: IS LFI SUPPOSED TO PROMOTE BETTER HEALTH OR IS THAT COMPANY A PLACE FOR ORDINARY PEOPLE TO EARN COLD, FAST CASH THE EASY, UNETHICAL WAY?
I'm not here to blame LFI because that company believes in better health for everyone, which I'm cool with that. IT'S THE 'EMPLOYEES' (some of them) ARE THE ONES MAKING LFI A PYRAMID-SCHEME COMPANY.
All I want is for those who join MLM to stop recruiting naive, easily duped friends. If you (sales associate) believes that the product is good, let your friends try them and see the results INSTEAD of MISLEADING them to join your network just for your own SELFISH dream of being rich.
Originally posted by amato chicken crust:If you want to compare LFI against normal work there's 1 & only difference: getting a paid job doesn't require anyone to pay $10++ to sign the contract. So, why should we pay (LFI) $10++ jus to help sell their product?
I was from LFI before (I think I still am now but inactive) and I must say that the products are good. The only thing that disturbs me is that my uplines (whoever they are) are earning my sales commission, which I think is not fair because whatever I sell and they'll get money (while shaking legs). Then they state that I (as staters) can too be like them; just need to recruit people (mostly naive, gullible friends) and expand my network which in turn, me earning money easily.
Which boils down to 1 question: IS LFI SUPPOSED TO PROMOTE BETTER HEALTH OR IS THAT COMPANY A PLACE FOR ORDINARY PEOPLE TO EARN COLD, FAST CASH THE EASY, UNETHICAL WAY?
I'm not here to blame LFI because that company believes in better health for everyone, which I'm cool with that. IT'S THE 'EMPLOYEES' (some of them) ARE THE ONES MAKING LFI A PYRAMID-SCHEME COMPANY.
All I want is for those who join MLM to stop recruiting naive, easily duped friends. If you (sales associate) believes that the product is good, let your friends try them and see the results INSTEAD of MISLEADING them to join your network just for your own SELFISH dream of being rich.
Topic Not Related to Thread Subject in Anyway.
Verdict of post : Not Helpful, Posting Nonsense
Agenda of user's post: Criticsing others without knowing that when a person points a finger at others, 3 others are pointing back at themselves.. (blame others without blamming themselves)
Nature of user: Naive, gullible, irresponsible (Based on his reply)
Observation: You are obviously not a ex-mlm agent..based on your reply..it's more of a victim than coming from a agent perspective.
I think you fall into either of the following categories:
1) Paid $, but didn't follow through the lessons to learn
2) Didn't pay but claims you yourself is from this company when you have yet to even join any mlm company
3) You got your presumed identity from your others (by hearing their complaints/doubts) than coming over online to complain.
Whatever your case or perspectiveand agenda is: Create a new post if you want to complain, this is the wrong place..either or..you can go to another thread of mine to post your complaints (against your "supposed upline") and i'll reply accordingly.
Originally posted by amato chicken crust:If you want to compare LFI against normal work there's 1 & only difference: getting a paid job doesn't require anyone to pay $10++ to sign the contract. So, why should we pay (LFI) $10++ jus to help sell their product?
I was from LFI before (I think I still am now but inactive) and I must say that the products are good. The only thing that disturbs me is that my uplines (whoever they are) are earning my sales commission, which I think is not fair because whatever I sell and they'll get money (while shaking legs). Then they state that I (as staters) can too be like them; just need to recruit people (mostly naive, gullible friends) and expand my network which in turn, me earning money easily.
Which boils down to 1 question: IS LFI SUPPOSED TO PROMOTE BETTER HEALTH OR IS THAT COMPANY A PLACE FOR ORDINARY PEOPLE TO EARN COLD, FAST CASH THE EASY, UNETHICAL WAY?
I'm not here to blame LFI because that company believes in better health for everyone, which I'm cool with that. IT'S THE 'EMPLOYEES' (some of them) ARE THE ONES MAKING LFI A PYRAMID-SCHEME COMPANY.
All I want is for those who join MLM to stop recruiting naive, easily duped friends. If you (sales associate) believes that the product is good, let your friends try them and see the results INSTEAD of MISLEADING them to join your network just for your own SELFISH dream of being rich.
amato chicken crust, I understand your frustration. However, your understanding of MLM is still not clear.
Many people who are unfamiliar with or have had previous bad experience with multilevel marketing may look at something like LFI and declare it a scam, pyramid scheme etc. This is sometimes based on a misunderstanding of the industry, how it works and how it compensates distributors. If the company is operating a true pyramid scheme, then yes, it would be a scam business.
However, my humble opinion on the company is that it is an ethical one and one that deserves to hold the no. 1 spot for being the best local MLM company. It certaintly doesn't operate based on exhanging money primarily for rolling other people into the scheme, without any products or services being delivered.
So it would be naive to say that it is a pyramid scheme.
My advice is do not short changed anyone or anything for your lack of success. Every individual MUST take full responsibility for their own failure. With regards to the distributors unethical way of operating their business; I don't blame you. It happens, there are bound to be people whose principles are not in line with how they approach network marketing.
Look I'm not here to force you or anything, but there's only one shot at this thing called life, I suggest you keep fighting for your dreams. If you really need any help with regards to sponsoring, marketing or anything relating to your business, do let me or anyone of us here in this forum know; we are here to help ok?
Sincerely,
Heider
Originally posted by Heider Hassan:amato chicken crust, I understand your frustration. However, your understanding of MLM is still not clear.
Many people who are unfamiliar with or have had previous bad experience with multilevel marketing may look at something like LFI and declare it a scam, pyramid scheme etc. This is sometimes based on a misunderstanding of the industry, how it works and how it compensates distributors. If the company is operating a true pyramid scheme, then yes, it would be a scam business.
However, my humble opinion on the company is that it is an ethical one and one that deserves to hold the no. 1 spot for being the best local MLM company. It certaintly doesn't operate based on exhanging money primarily for rolling other people into the scheme, without any products or services being delivered.
So it would be naive to say that it is a pyramid scheme.
My advice is do not short changed anyone or anything for your lack of success. Every individual MUST take full responsibility for their own failure. With regards to the distributors unethical way of operating their business; I don't blame you. It happens, there are bound to be people whose principles are not in line with how they approach network marketing.
Look I'm not here to force you or anything, but there's only one shot at this thing called life, I suggest you keep fighting for your dreams. If you really need any help with regards to sponsoring, marketing or anything relating to your business, do let me or anyone of us here in this forum know; we are here to help ok?
Sincerely,
Heider
Typical example of a rookie trying to teach a newbie..
The pot calling the kettle black..
When i adviced you to stick to the basics and learn the basics..there you are here trying to advice a complete newbie who knows nothing..while it is with good intentions..but your actions will lead to more issues in future complicating things..
for you yourself lack the basic understanding of MLM..
the only difference between you and that person crust is that you have being given a crash course on MLM without the basics while crust learn nothing yet.
advice only when you're clear..you don't teach when you still lack the basics. else it will be the blind leading another blind..
follow-up on the ferrari example..you can buy one if you are super rich, but upon purchase that time, you have yet to get your class 3 license yet, and you want to advice other people who are also still learning/ yet to even attend any lessons for driving..
when you're trying to help others despite the fact that you are not licensed yet, the advice you give will only complicate things and speed up the progress of those newbies of crashing the car against the war not only endangering himself/herself but also pulling many other innocent people (inclusive of the driving instructor beside the newbie) along to the path of hell..when the actual fact is they should not even be doing practical test without first passing the theory test..
So focus on learning the theory test first..if you really want to help..the best help from you is not to advise people based on your current understanding of MLM.
hi, i'm doing a academic project on MLM and i would like to know if it is legal for MLM companies to use advertising to promote their company? If it is legal, then why are the companies not using advertising? because someone told me that MLM companies are not allowed to use advertising... enlighten me please!!!
thanks.
hi, i'm doing a academic project on MLM and i would like to know if it is legal for MLM companies to use advertising to promote their company in Singapore? If it is legal, then why are the companies not using advertising? what will happen if they do advertise? because someone told me that MLM companies are not allowed to use advertising... enlighten me please!!!
thanks.
Originally posted by aya yamamoto:hi, i'm doing a academic project on MLM and i would like to know if it is legal for MLM companies to use advertising to promote their company in Singapore? If it is legal, then why are the companies not using advertising? what will happen if they do advertise? because someone told me that MLM companies are not allowed to use advertising... enlighten me please!!!
thanks.
Hey aya yamamoto,
Yup it's legal, the only problem is the MLM companies use people to advertise their products or to expand their business and rarely use traditional modes of advertising (TV, Radio etc) Some do but not as prevalent as the traditional business. In terms of online advertisements like PPC, SEO etc, I do see ads around Google but extremely rare. Usually it's being done by the distributors. Yup. Plus, why waste so much training resources the distributors right?
But right now Google is clamping down on all the "money making opportunities" advertisements on their Adwords.
However, some companies does not allow their distributors to advertise using the its name
Originally posted by Heider Hassan:Hey aya yamamoto,
Yup it's legal, the only problem is the MLM companies use people to advertise their products or to expand their business and rarely use traditional modes of advertising (TV, Radio etc) Some do but not as prevalent as the traditional business. In terms of online advertisements like PPC, SEO etc, I do see ads around Google but extremely rare. Usually it's being done by the distributors. Yup. Plus, why waste so much training resources the distributors right?
But right now Google is clamping down on all the "money making opportunities" advertisements on their Adwords.
However, some companies does not allow their distributors to advertise using the its name
ok... but why didn't the companies use media to advertise? wouldn't that be a better way to reach even more people and build up image?
Originally posted by aya yamamoto:ok... but why didn't the companies use media to advertise? wouldn't that be a better way to reach even more people and build up image?
Though it's a good medium to build their brand, most mlm companies don't resort to advertising their business on TV etc. Besides, advertising such money making opportunities on TV will be counter productive as people are skeptical towards these things.
The idea of an MLM company is they are using people to establish their brand. I'm sure you agree that the best way to build a brand is through a satisfied customer right?
That said, you do see occasional advertisements on TV, like LFI and it's Just Diamonds, Amway and their cosmetic ads, even Herbalife advertised on our MRT once.
But you just don't see it as often but when the company is undergoing expansion overseas, then there's a higher chance of it appearing in the media.
It's all about keeping the cost down.
Just look at it this way, the company pays the distributors as their "advertisement" in the form of compensation plans. So why spend even more money on ad campaigns?
Originally posted by Heider Hassan:Hey aya yamamoto,
Yup it's legal, the only problem is the MLM companies use people to advertise their products or to expand their business and rarely use traditional modes of advertising (TV, Radio etc) Some do but not as prevalent as the traditional business. In terms of online advertisements like PPC, SEO etc, I do see ads around Google but extremely rare. Usually it's being done by the distributors. Yup. Plus, why waste so much training resources the distributors right?
But right now Google is clamping down on all the "money making opportunities" advertisements on their Adwords.
However, some companies does not allow their distributors to advertise using the its name
Heider..just some corrections..instead of a 50/50 answer why not you ask your uplines more before you attempt to answer this question..gain more information first in future before attempting to reply, don't cause others to fail their university project due to a poor quality reply for lack of proper infomation.
based on what I know.. advertising is perfectly legal..who would say no to profits? having said that, MLM is just another business entity which is legal and therefore able to advertise.
the real reason why companies don't advertise is due to a results delivered by advertisments as compared to results by direct sales agents.
advertisers are just like the middle-man..the company takes the money, delievers the message across via the whatever platforms available via their means and don't actually care for if the advertisement have any impact on positive or negative ROI.
why most companies use sales agents instead of advertisements is primary due to the customer service aspect...an advertisement cannot share the benefits of the products (which come mostly in consumerable forms) unlike the sales agents who are active/walking advertisments that can cater the type of advertisments specifically to the needs and wants of a prospective user/client in solving their concerns and doubts first before pushing the product across in closing a deal.
an advertisement will only spread the news of new products, but look at shopping centers, the reason why customer service consultants/ service support staffs are hired in beauty products sales counters, hospitality venues and services is precisely of the fact that benefits of advertisement is limited and big brands know that fact thus they emphasis a lot of product, customer service training etc.
a customer sales staff can cater the advertisement (verbal ads via first understanding what individual clients wants) before answering in a manner that will please the individual customers' demands.
sales staff can provide more benefits than an ad due to delivery of quality service (increasing the positive impression in the brand, as well as the individual sales staff plus ensuring a possible repeat sales)..so using mlm companies using sales agents is in-fact killing multiple birds with one single stone.
while on the other hand..advertisement is not only costly and does not help in ensuring potential clients/existing clients to remain loyal to the brand nor can it promote any service to meet up to the heavily competitive sales industry to secure a much larger pool of clients.
personal touch or face to face communication is what builds the relationship with customers and just this point alone is sufficent to answer your question.
I hope the you (yamamoto) get a clearer picture now with answers to both your questions.
MLM is NOT a GET RICH QUICK business. Anyone who tells you that does not know about or respect what MLM is. MLM is the sustained efforts of a group or netowrk of people working toward a common goal, while having the benefits of creating a residual income over time . . . from DOING THE REQUIRED WORK.
NOTHING COMES FREE - it does not matter what business you are in. To think otherwise is to conspire against the laws of the universe. something does not come for nothing.
I think their are a few challenges people face when entering into the MLM arena. The reality is that most people FAIL at ANY business because they GIVE UP or they do not have good mentors or advisors to help them SUCCEED.When they experience failure, they blame the indusrty or someone else, when in reality they should be looking at themselves as to why they did not stick it out. Success in MLM (as with any other business) is partly a mental attitude as well as a result of ACTION over a sustained period of time.
There are a few factors that contribute to one's success in MLM - in no particluar order, here are some:
- belief in and use of the product or service you offer
- knowledge of your business and its history & the compensation plan
- continued application of a proven system - OR USE OF ONE to help in one's marketing efforts (see WWW.LINELOGIX.COM for a great online system to use with ANY MLM business effort)
- surrounding yourself with people who encourage rather than discourage your efforts
- developing a community of people oriented to the same goals and purpose
- belief and faith in yourself that you will succeedif you only DO NOT GIVE UP
People have to keep in mind that success in any endeavor usually comes over a sustained period of time and effort. It does not come in 2 or 3, or even 6 months, but rather over time.
I have included a great youtube link to Tim Sales video in which he discusses 'DO People Really FAIL in MLM? It is a good overview of perceptions and what to do in order to Succeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FclI8hGQgb4
GOOD LUCK and STICK WITH MLM!!!!
Originally posted by Plutoclub317:MLM is NOT a GET RICH QUICK business. Anyone who tells you that does not know about or respect what MLM is. MLM is the sustained efforts of a group or netowrk of people working toward a common goal, while having the benefits of creating a residual income over time . . . from DOING THE REQUIRED WORK.
NOTHING COMES FREE - it does not matter what business you are in. To think otherwise is to conspire against the laws of the universe. something does not come for nothing.
I think their are a few challenges people face when entering into the MLM arena. The reality is that most people FAIL at ANY business because they GIVE UP or they do not have good mentors or advisors to help them SUCCEED.When they experience failure, they blame the indusrty or someone else, when in reality they should be looking at themselves as to why they did not stick it out. Success in MLM (as with any other business) is partly a mental attitude as well as a result of ACTION over a sustained period of time.
There are a few factors that contribute to one's success in MLM - in no particluar order, here are some:
- belief in and use of the product or service you offer
- knowledge of your business and its history & the compensation plan
- continued application of a proven system - OR USE OF ONE to help in one's marketing efforts (see WWW.LINELOGIX.COM for a great online system to use with ANY MLM business effort)
- surrounding yourself with people who encourage rather than discourage your efforts
- developing a community of people oriented to the same goals and purpose
- belief and faith in yourself that you will succeedif you only DO NOT GIVE UP
People have to keep in mind that success in any endeavor usually comes over a sustained period of time and effort. It does not come in 2 or 3, or even 6 months, but rather over time.
I have included a great youtube link to Tim Sales video in which he discusses 'DO People Really FAIL in MLM? It is a good overview of perceptions and what to do in order to Succeed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FclI8hGQgb4
GOOD LUCK and STICK WITH MLM!!!!
Hey, new user..
Did you not read or understand basic english and not follow rules in the first place?
Of all places, when my first thread posting suggest this is a Question & Answer thread, there you are trying to show-off your "rich" intelligence of the industry when no questions was posted nor any answer was requested..yet you force it onto other people's threads for your own benefit..
Verdict >> User observed to be extremely poor with customer service nor is he/she able to comprehend the rules/guides of sales and servicing plus without even following the basics rules.
Recommendation: Don't even trust/try asking this distributor of any knowledge when this user shows little to zero knowledge to begin with.
This is a typical example of a hard-selling tatic where agents force their information against a client who isn't showing any interest in the topic yet forcing the poor person to listen to a load of junk much akin to raping a lady against her wishes by forcing himself on her like a desperado.
Advice for this user: Stick to the basics first before you even attempt to sell anything. Learn first!!
Dear the_fallen:
Do not mistake my response to "YOUR" thread as a hard sale tactic, when I have offered nothing for sale. If you refer to the resource reference or the link provided, be assured it's only for the benefit of and as a resource to others, as I have no distributor affiliation with either. One is a discourse on whether people really FAIL in MLM, while the other is a system tool that I personally use for my MLM business, it is not an MLM.
The purpose of a forum is to share one's experience, thoughts and advice on a topic. To encourage constructive participation is the goal, rather than to berate or belittle others – I believe there is another forum for ranting and raving. Though I am a “new user” to this venue, do not assume lack of intelligence or experience – to do so is only to reveal your own ignorance. If you take issue with one's alleged incompliance with a rule or guideline, a gentler approach might be more welcome and received as encouraging, rather than the HITLER's posture you assume, which might only serve to discourage some. Yes, I have only recently discovered this forum, but you have no clue as to who I am and make some very abrupt, naive assumptions.
I am clear on your HARD SELL influence on this MLM forum. You need to understand, however, you are not the only authority on the subject. Before your blood begins to boil, I claim no authority, though I can and will contribute only to the extent of my experience (whatever that may be). And, you need not make assumptions as to my intelligence either, as you have no clue and lack personal knowledge thereof. Further, your “verdict” lacks any credible, nor do you possess substantiated evidence of my sales/service ability. A wiser approach on your part might be to get to know me before you initiate blind assessment of me and others, as I have seen is a consistent theme you deploy in some of the other posts in this forum.
The very nature of public forums is to promote and provoke discussion. The MLM arena serves as a catalyst to share knowledge with and teach others to elevate themselves as leaders, people who accomplish things and succeed. The forum should not be used as a hammer to drive down nails of discouragement.
I approach the subject with a servant’s mentality, as there is much to learn, as well as the occasional opportunity to mentor. So, before you go around making blind assumptions and conduct public lashing of others, perhaps you should ask a few questions of your own and enlighten yourself prior to acting in your capacity as judge, prosecuting attorney, jury and executioner . . . all in one.
Meanwhile, I will read though the forum rules once again to ensure I am compliant in my response and contribution to the forum.
Respectfully – P. Pluto
Originally posted by Plutoclub317: Dear the_fallen:Do not mistake my response to "YOUR" thread as a hard sale tactic, when I have offered nothing for sale. If you refer to the resource reference or the link provided, be assured it's only for the benefit of and as a resource to others, as I have no distributor affiliation with either. One is a discourse on whether people really FAIL in MLM, while the other is a system tool that I personally use for my MLM business, it is not an MLM.
The purpose of a forum is to share one's experience, thoughts and advice on a topic. To encourage constructive participation is the goal, rather than to berate or belittle others – I believe there is another forum for ranting and raving. Though I am a “new user” to this venue, do not assume lack of intelligence or experience – to do so is only to reveal your own ignorance. If you take issue with one's alleged incompliance with a rule or guideline, a gentler approach might be more welcome and received as encouraging, rather than the HITLER's posture you assume, which might only serve to discourage some. Yes, I have only recently discovered this forum, but you have no clue as to who I am and make some very abrupt, naive assumptions.
I am clear on your HARD SELL influence on this MLM forum. You need to understand, however, you are not the only authority on the subject. Before your blood begins to boil, I claim no authority, though I can and will contribute only to the extent of my experience (whatever that may be). And, you need not make assumptions as to my intelligence either, as you have no clue and lack personal knowledge thereof. Further, your “verdict” lacks any credible, nor do you possess substantiated evidence of my sales/service ability. A wiser approach on your part might be to get to know me before you initiate blind assessment of me and others, as I have seen is a consistent theme you deploy in some of the other posts in this forum.
The very nature of public forums is to promote and provoke discussion. The MLM arena serves as a catalyst to share knowledge with and teach others to elevate themselves as leaders, people who accomplish things and succeed. The forum should not be used as a hammer to drive down nails of discouragement.
I approach the subject with a servant’s mentality, as there is much to learn, as well as the occasional opportunity to mentor. So, before you go around making blind assumptions and conduct public lashing of others, perhaps you should ask a few questions of your own and enlighten yourself prior to acting in your capacity as judge, prosecuting attorney, jury and executioner . . . all in one.
Meanwhile, I will read though the forum rules once again to ensure I am compliant in my response and contribution to the forum.
Respectfully – P. Pluto
While you may reply in a lengthy manner. the crux of the issue is that you failed to read and observe the rules in the first place.
if you post didn't post in my thread, i will not comment, but the moment you're in my thread, my own rules applies. [if you don't like it here, than don't post in my thread, it's that simple, start your own thread]
my intention is to solve general questions to anybody in any companies, in attempt to clarify general questions from the public.. it is to solve problems and not create more problems or even more questions to confuse the readers which you did in your post reply in case you didn't notice.
when you are doing business, if you make a mistake, admit it upfront and move on, don't give excuses to cover up your mistakes.
any explaination = excuses for failing to follow the rules.
the more replies you give = the more excuses you make = reflects on your incompetency in the subject proper.. period.
FYI: watch videos of Donald Trump's The Apprentice if you don't understand the basics of business