Police and Army Equivalents....
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Hmmm a DSP is equivalent to a LTC (Lieutenant Colonel) or a COL (Colonel)? *according to rank structure and pay?*
Do they have warrant officers?
Highest is Commisioner? (LG? CDF-equi?) -
hmm.....Originally posted by Master -_-:Hmmm a DSP is equivalent to a LTC (Lieutenant Colonel) or a COL (Colonel)? *according to rank structure and pay?*
Do they have warrant officers?
Highest is Commisioner? (LG? CDF-equi?)
since the pay is not reveal at www.spf.gov.sg, i believe the pay have been revised and might not finalised yet..... there is not sush thing as equivalent rank or what.... or else what dont Army and Police combine in the first place and maybe even share the same name?
as for the pay... to what i know from PSD.... civil servant drawing salary from 8k and above will be super scale already.... regardless of rank....
for rank structure for Senior Officer(Degree holders) in SPF will be
http://www.spf.gov.sg/career/enforce/enforce_rank.htm
there are about 7 ranks before CP(Commissioner of Police)
and rank structure for Officer(Degree holders) in SAF will be
http://www.mindef.gov.sg/arc/officer/off_1500.html
and there are about 8 ranks before GEN(4 star General)
perhaps if you want to know more about SPF can send them an email to
http://www.spf.gov.sg/career/contact/index.htm and they might answer you better?
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Originally posted by qazplm:
hmm.....
since the pay is not reveal at www.spf.gov.sg, i believe the pay have been revised and might not finalised yet..... there is not sush thing as equivalent rank or what.... or else what dont Army and Police combine in the first place and maybe even share the same name?
Hi
Just to offer my point of view, there is a "rank equivalent" kind of "Guide" .
This is just a guide to help people from different uniform groups recognise the ranks and it's equivalent. It's partly to help when it comes to paying compliments to the other uniformed organisations as well. Agreed that this is very much " on paper", as in not many people actually follow this. I remember during my NSF days, I was reminded to accord compliments to Senior Officers from the Singapore Police Force should I see them, especially during events such as NDP.
This "equivelent " thing is also like what I would compare to a "foreign currency table". I'm sure when we go overseas, we would mentally convert the foreign currency into our own currency, otherwise we may not be able to decide if it's expensive or not and so on. Likewise, someone from SAF may not really know what exactly is a DSP. In my opinion, this is what this equivalent is all about. Paying inter Uniform Organisations respect refelcts well on these organisations too.
Of course, there may be other reasons for this equvalent such as pay, grade, appointments and so on. You also see HASE officers and DXO working within SPF and SAF respectively having a rough "rank equivalent". These people may not be in uniform but their appointment and/ or ability to hold these appointments may put them in line.
Ultimately this is a just a guide on equivalent. It's almost impossible to have a exact equivalent, afterall , SPF and SAF are different in terms of job scopes and so on.
Just my 2 cents. -
i understand what you mean.... but do remember "giving 5 dollars" are only to SO(senior officer) or Officer..... and sad to say... both are degree holders(for those direct entry fellas).....Originally posted by malcolmloke:
Hi
Just to offer my point of view, there is a "rank equivalent" kind of "Guide" .
This is just a guide to help people from different uniform groups recognise the ranks and it's equivalent. It's partly to help when it comes to paying compliments to the other uniformed organisations as well. Agreed that this is very much " on paper", as in not many people actually follow this. I remember during my NSF days, I was reminded to accord compliments to Senior Officers from the Singapore Police Force should I see them, especially during events such as NDP.
This "equivelent " thing is also like what I would compare to a "foreign currency table". I'm sure when we go overseas, we would mentally convert the foreign currency into our own currency, otherwise we may not be able to decide if it's expensive or not and so on. Likewise, someone from SAF may not really know what exactly is a DSP. In my opinion, this is what this equivalent is all about. Paying inter Uniform Organisations respect refelcts well on these organisations too.
Of course, there may be other reasons for this equvalent such as pay, grade, appointments and so on. You also see HASE officers and DXO working within SPF and SAF respectively having a rough "rank equivalent". These people may not be in uniform but their appointment and/ or ability to hold these appointments may put them in line.
Ultimately this is a just a guide on equivalent. It's almost impossible to have a exact equivalent, afterall , SPF and SAF are different in terms of job scopes and so on.
Just my 2 cents.
so there is still no guide or what.... because the salary range and things like that do tally..... job scope is also difference... it will be unfair if its being "compare" like this... =)
as for HASE officer... they usually base on the salary scale and the entry qualification to judge the so called "rank equivalent".... -
a DSP is equi to a LTC. I'm not too sure about pay strcuture because the SAF always pays it's regulars very well; I believe even than the SPF.Originally posted by Master -_-:Hmmm a DSP is equivalent to a LTC (Lieutenant Colonel) or a COL (Colonel)? *according to rank structure and pay?*
Do they have warrant officers?
Highest is Commisioner? (LG? CDF-equi?)
The equivalent of warrant officers would be the Station Inspectors of the SPF. There are 3 ranks of such "Enciks" though, Stations Inspector ( SI), Senior SI (SSI) and SSI (2).
These ranks epaulette is quite similar too. a SI rank is similar to that of a 1WO , with 2 "rooftops", SSI has 3, something like a MWO and SSI(2) is like a SWO woth 4 rooftops.
Yes, the highest ranking police officer is the Commissioner.
Perhaps this site may interest all?
http://www.geocities.com/inescutcheon/RanksMilitary.htm
It may not be an official site of any organisation but it sure is informative. -
I agree with you. My point is that this is only a rough guide .Originally posted by qazplm:i understand what you mean.... but do remember "giving 5 dollars" are only to SO(senior officer) or Officer..... and sad to say... both are degree holders(for those direct entry fellas).....
so there is still no guide or what.... because the salary range and things like that do tally..... job scope is also difference... it will be unfair if its being "compare" like this... =)
as for HASE officer... they usually base on the salary scale and the entry qualification to judge the so called "rank equivalent"....
Yes certain practices are also different. SIs and above are saluted in the SPF but only commisoned officers of ranks 2LT and are saluted.However, I remember seeing a document on rank equivalent though during my NSF days and therefore I'm believe that there is such a equivalent.
As for it's relevance or not, that's a different topic to be debated on. But, I'm certain that there is a some document that actually states this.
I acknowledge that not many adhere to this, not all agree to it. I do not accept totally too.