Unique track?
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Secondary School student study 4/5 years before taking their O level . If they did not do well enough, they can consider retaking some of the paper and combine the cert.
So I was thinking about a unique route.
After P6 student get their PSLE cert, they'll be enroll into a special institution.
Student in this institution will undergo special program which allows them to complete their O level in 3 years time.
In the Year 1 they'll be taking foundation syllabus of each subjects. In year 2 Student will take half of the subject taken in year 1 to O level exam. In year 3, they'll take the remaining half of the subject to O level.
They'll then combine the 2 O level certs and proceed to higher learning(A Level or Diploma).
The benefit of this unique track is to reduce the time spent in obtaining a O level certificate by one or two years.
Another benefits is that Student will have more time to prepare for exam for that particular year because he/she is only taking half of the total subjects.
Student will not be called secondary student, but called Intermediate. I1, I2, I3 denotes year 1,2 and 3 respectively.
Normal student take up to 10 subject and squeeze all the taking in a year..
Please give comments. Thanks.
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Some flaws in the scheme.Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Secondary School student study 4/5 years before taking their O level . If they did not do well enough, they can consider retaking some of the paper and combine the cert.
So I was thinking about a unique route.
After P6 student get their PSLE cert, they'll be enroll into a special institution.
Student in this institution will undergo special program which allows them to complete their O level in 3 years time.
In the Year 1 they'll be taking foundation syllabus of each subjects. In year 2 Student will take half of the subject taken in year 1 to O level exam. In year 3, they'll take the remaining half of the subject to O level.
They'll then combine the 2 O level certs and proceed to higher learning(A Level or Diploma).
The benefit of this unique track is to reduce the time spent in obtaining a O level certificate by one or two years.
Another benefits is that Student will have more time to prepare for exam for that particular year because he/she is only taking half of the total subjects.
Normal student take up to 10 subject and squeeze all the taking in a year..
Please give comments. Thanks.
So should the student take languages in year 2 or year 3?
Cause either way it would mean that student would not touch english/moth tounge at all for one year.
Which in like hmm ... self explanatory. -
They'll be taking language lesson in year 1. For student who shown excellent result in Language in I2 Prelim, they can take that O level langauage papers in I2 (Year 2). If not, they'll have to take another years language lesson in I3(Year 3) before sitting for the exam.Originally posted by Xephone_xenon:Some flaws in the scheme.
So should the student take languages in year 2 or year 3?
Cause either way it would mean that student would not touch english/moth tounge at all for one year.
Which in like hmm ... self explanatory.
That's the basic outline lah. still got alot to improve. -
If your referring your suggestion to a complete overhaul of the existing secondary-school-stage education level, then it might need some tweaking here and there. The primary barrier that you will be facing here would be the need for the University of Cambridge examination body agreeable on such a special arrangement such that there won't be any compromises to the UK's GCE standard format and guidelines. You might want to google up "Singapore's GCE integrated programme"; basically an option to bypass the O-levels, and take the A-levels instead at the age of 18.Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Secondary School student study 4/5 years before taking their O level . If they did not do well enough, they can consider retaking some of the paper and combine the cert.
So I was thinking about a unique route.
After P6 student get their PSLE cert, they'll be enroll into a special institution.
Student in this institution will undergo special program which allows them to complete their O level in 3 years time.
In the Year 1 they'll be taking foundation syllabus of each subjects. In year 2 Student will take half of the subject taken in year 1 to O level exam. In year 3, they'll take the remaining half of the subject to O level.
They'll then combine the 2 O level certs and proceed to higher learning(A Level or Diploma).
The benefit of this unique track is to reduce the time spent in obtaining a O level certificate by one or two years.
Another benefits is that Student will have more time to prepare for exam for that particular year because he/she is only taking half of the total subjects.
Student will not be called secondary student, but called Intermediate. I1, I2, I3 denotes year 1,2 and 3 respectively.
Normal student take up to 10 subject and squeeze all the taking in a year..
Please give comments. Thanks.
On the other hand, if your talking about a sole "special institution" that has this special arrangement unique to its establishment, then im afraid that it will only serve to bring forward the elitist mentality to the secondary schoolers. -
elite mentality, good point. It doesn't serve any purpose to the ones who are weaker, but a faster route for those who are more academically inclined.Originally posted by Paradise Lost:If your referring your suggestion to a complete overhaul of the existing secondary-school-stage education level, then it might need some tweaking here and there. The primary barrier that you will be facing here would be the need for the University of Cambridge examination body agreeable on such a special arrangement such that there won't be any compromises to the UK's GCE standard format and guidelines. You might want to google up "Singapore's GCE integrated programme"; basically an option to bypass the O-levels, and take the A-levels instead at the age of 18.
On the other hand, if your talking about a sole "special institution" that has this special arrangement unique to its establishment, then im afraid that it will only serve to bring forward the elitist mentality to the secondary schoolers.
3 yrs of curriculum is like the 5NA course. when do u started ur o lvl preparation? sec 1? It is not the case for most school. Most of us started it out in sec 3 and completed it in sec 5, that's 3 years. so for those in express, thats 2 years only.
another thing is that, if you are talking about saving the 1 or 2 yrs in secondary school just for this new formate of curriculum just for this 3 yr course, it might not be the case. some people are good in D&T, some are more into sciences, we need to allow them to have time to know and make their choices. you can't just push them all into this. -
I am talking about the sole 'special institution'. I have no intent to bring this to elitist mentality to those sec sch student.Originally posted by Paradise Lost:If your referring your suggestion to a complete overhaul of the existing secondary-school-stage education level, then it might need some tweaking here and there. The primary barrier that you will be facing here would be the need for the University of Cambridge examination body agreeable on such a special arrangement such that there won't be any compromises to the UK's GCE standard format and guidelines. You might want to google up "Singapore's GCE integrated programme"; basically an option to bypass the O-levels, and take the A-levels instead at the age of 18.
On the other hand, if your talking about a sole "special institution" that has this special arrangement unique to its establishment, then im afraid that it will only serve to bring forward the elitist mentality to the secondary schoolers.
This 'special institution' will accept students above 65 percentile.
I want to make my campus in a high tech, green(environment friendly), and highly motivated fasion, so as to bring this institution towards better learning environment.
This campus is unlike the Secondary School located anywhere, it's a campus with hugh amount of student intake probably around 8 thousands. -
still remember the em1, em2 and em3? aren't u doing the same thing now?Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:I am talking about the sole 'special institution'. I have no intent to bring this to elitist mentality to those sec sch student.
This 'special institution' will accept students above 65 percentile.
I want to make my campus in a high tech, green(environment friendly), and highly motivated fasion, so as to bring this institution towards better learning environment.
This campus is unlike the Secondary School located anywhere, it's a campus with hugh amount of student intake probably around 8 thousands. -
Yes I know that most of us starter preparation at sec 3. But in this institution, it'll will start at year 1.Originally posted by Hocklez:elite mentality, good point. It doesn't serve any purpose to the ones who are weaker, but a faster route for those who are more academically inclined.
3 yrs of curriculum is like the 5NA course. when do u started ur o lvl preparation? sec 1? It is not the case for most school. Most of us started it out in sec 3 and completed it in sec 5, that's 3 years. so for those in express, thats 2 years only.
another thing is that, if you are talking about saving the 1 or 2 yrs in secondary school just for this new formate of curriculum just for this 3 yr course, it might not be the case. some people are good in D&T, some are more into sciences, we need to allow them to have time to know and make their choices. you can't just push them all into this.
You have brought up another good point on Subject Combination. Yea different people may like different subjects. But I intend to make this Institution which focus in purely Science Area. -
65th percentile is the minimum requirement to enter this institution. However, admission through discretion is also highly recommended. It will based on another set of criteria such as interest in Science etc.Originally posted by Hocklez:still remember the em1, em2 and em3? aren't u doing the same thing now?
There will be no streaming in this institution. Everyone will be the same. It's by year I1, I2 or I3.
In this unique and highly motivated environment, student will help each other when they have problems. -
The government is trying to move Singapore Education System to less academic base... Trying to promote creativity, character building to students...
Yr proposal will only encourage students to be more exam base... -
Yup. My proposal will not be focusing on Creativity and Innovation. Character building and development will be part of the plan. To be precise, it's academic-based.Originally posted by ispyyy:The government is trying to move Singapore Education System to less academic base... Trying to promote creativity, character building to students...
Yr proposal will only encourage students to be more exam base...
I find that promoting creativity doesn't not plays a huge role in learning. You see there is only a certain level of creativity there and most people with 'creative and innovative genes' are art students.
I will be creating a Huge Institution with serveral subsidaries. I might consider creating a Art entity in this Institution.
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What determines the foundation of the various subjects offered?
And what are the compulsory subjects to be taken? Or put it in another way, what are the subjects offered?
How to determine what type of foundation studies for the various subjects?
For example, Geography. Science? Maths? Both?
Since it's academic-based, I suppose it's going to be another bookworm club? With very few practicals? -
Are you thinking in terms of Sports School? Sports School intends to nurture sports talents, as well as make sure that they are able to survive once they retire from the sports scene.Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Yes I know that most of us starter preparation at sec 3. But in this institution, it'll will start at year 1.
You have brought up another good point on Subject Combination. Yea different people may like different subjects. But I intend to make this Institution which focus in purely Science Area.
By building this kind of school, the student have to know that they are severely limiting themselves, in terms of creativity and reality. -
You are trying to promote elitism in this. 65 percentile. Look, what will happen to the 35 percentile? What i am trying to say is that your way of separating those students who are in and not in the school. Not about those in the school. First are those who jumped the o lvl to the a lvl, then is this route u suggested. Do you have any idea how inferior the 35 percentile will feel? MOE started the new PSLE system of separating the subjects into different levels, this is to let each students to have equal opportunities. Yours suggestion is like the opposite.
Some are late bloomers, you can't expect them to be choosing their interest so young. Parents are already complaining about the PSLE system who determines the top sec sch their child will be able to be admitted and later the type of qualification they getting in future.
Your mentality is to fast forward the whole education process. You can't purely just use your own assumption and start this type route. Who will be the ones suffering in this system? -
Oh pls. we already have 101 ways to go to here and go to there..
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Blue part: Might as well go India. A lot of them are so happy with the current skills that they have, that they are not going to innovate and improve.Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:Yup. My proposal will not be focusing on Creativity and Innovation. Character building and development will be part of the plan. To be precise, it's academic-based.
I find that promoting creativity doesn't not plays a huge role in learning. You see there is only a certain level of creativity there and most people with 'creative and innovative genes' are art students.
I will be creating a Huge Institution with serveral subsidaries. I might consider creating a Art entity in this Institution.
Many know that they are strong in either engineering or IT, and focused on this aspect. No doubt, they do well. But they will always fall behind, because other countries are able to innovate.
As for creativity issue, your thinking is very outdated. It all depends on how creativity is used to promote learning, how well can one learn from it. Creative methods are usually analogies, if they can understand, they will do well. If they don't, they probably will have to go by rote. -
Different subjects will have different foundation level. It's the Basic of the subject which act as Foundation. The Foundation Subject will be leveled at GCE N Level Stadard or standards set by the school.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:What determines the foundation of the various subjects offered?
And what are the compulsory subjects to be taken? Or put it in another way, what are the subjects offered?
How to determine what type of foundation studies for the various subjects?
For example, Geography. Science? Maths? Both?
Since it's academic-based, I suppose it's going to be another bookworm club? With very few practicals?
Each student must take at least 9 subjects.
Compulsory Subjects
-Triple Science
- A & E Maths
- Combine Humanities
- EL
-MT2
- 1 free choice from many options.
Options subject are:
-POA
-Economics
-Music
-Art
-D&T
-F&N
-Eng Lit
-HMT
-Chinese Lit
We can hire consultant to give us suggestion on their views of how to determine the foundation of a subjects. But generally it'll will be determine by the importance of the topic in the syllabus.
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No. This institution will be focusing on the Science-based subjects but, on the other will not compromise on other subjects.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Are you thinking in terms of Sports School? Sports School intends to nurture sports talents, as well as make sure that they are able to survive once they retire from the sports scene.
By building this kind of school, the student have to know that they are severely limiting themselves, in terms of creativity and reality.
With this subjects combination, our student will still be similar to other students.
In terms of creativity, it's subjective. The focus will not be on promoting creativity. Of course I might consider adding in a department for creativity. -
By the way, 65th percentile and above means it onlys accept 35% of the student above the 65% percentile.Originally posted by Hocklez:You are trying to promote elitism in this. 65 percentile. Look, what will happen to the 35 percentile? What i am trying to say is that your way of separating those students who are in and not in the school. Not about those in the school. First are those who jumped the o lvl to the a lvl, then is this route u suggested. Do you have any idea how inferior the 35 percentile will feel? MOE started the new PSLE system of separating the subjects into different levels, this is to let each students to have equal opportunities. Yours suggestion is like the opposite.
Some are late bloomers, you can't expect them to be choosing their interest so young. Parents are already complaining about the PSLE system who determines the top sec sch their child will be able to be admitted and later the type of qualification they getting in future.
Your mentality is to fast forward the whole education process. You can't purely just use your own assumption and start this type route. Who will be the ones suffering in this system?
As I have mention just now it's a sole institution, not a general system. -
It doesn't mean that without creactivity we will not improve. As I said in previous post, I might consider setting up a department for promoting creativity.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:Blue part: Might as well go India. A lot of them are so happy with the current skills that they have, that they are not going to innovate and improve.
Many know that they are strong in either engineering or IT, and focused on this aspect. No doubt, they do well. But they will always fall behind, because other countries are able to innovate.
As for creativity issue, your thinking is very outdated. It all depends on how creativity is used to promote learning, how well can one learn from it. Creative methods are usually analogies, if they can understand, they will do well. If they don't, they probably will have to go by rote.
No doubt creativity and Innovative are 2 very important aspects of life in today's competitive world. But how far can you go with O level using creativity?
Yea, I agree that I am quite outdated on my thinking towards the creativity issues.
Promoting Creativity in student is one thing. Promote learning using creativity is another thing. -
How far one can go with O Level using creativity will all depend... nothing in this world is absolute.Originally posted by Darkness_hacker99:It doesn't mean that without creactivity we will not improve. As I said in previous post, I might consider setting up a department for promoting creativity.
No doubt creativity and Innovative are 2 very important aspects of life in today's competitive world. But how far can you go with O level using creativity?
Yea, I agree that I am quite outdated on my thinking towards the creativity issues.
Promoting Creativity in student is one thing. Promote learning using creativity is another thing. -
Yes I agree but creactivity doesn't worth much in today's society where the majority of the employers only concerns about paper qualification. Creactivity is of no use unless you're working for an art-oriented company.Originally posted by ndmmxiaomayi:How far one can go with O Level using creativity will all depend... nothing in this world is absolute.
If you want a good job with high salary, you need good paper qualification. With today's rising cost of living in Singapore, you need at least a Degree to survive after paying all the bills that stacked up as high as Mount Everest.
My goal is to let students obtain their O Level Certificate at the shortest possible time without diluting the quality of the student. And to let students to have more time to progress and make decision later in their life. Afew years earlier may be a huge difference.
And I strongly believed that artistic talent and creativity are "tian sheng". Although many people say artistic talent can be cultivated, but I still feel that it's difficult to cultivate. Take I myself for example, from Sec 1 till Sec 2, I have art lesson as a compulsory for a lower sec student. After taking art for 2 years, I neither find no improvement in my 'artistic skills' nor my 'creativity/innovative'. Some people maybe better linguistically, some are mathematically-logically inclined, while some are both.
I myself personally have watch the documentary show "In The Womb" from National Geographic Channel Series quite a few times. Right-handed or Left-handed is pre-determined when you're a fetus in the womb. And many research have been carry out to show the connection between creativity and types of hander.
But for knowledge, I feel that it's universal. Everyone can learnt, BUT at different rates. Some may learn very fast, while some may have a slower understanding.
That's why I strongly believe in Exam-based structures and format. This is the only way to determine the ability to develop critical thinking and analyzing skills fairly. -
the individual's mentality...
no one is the same. all creative and no knowledge is not perfect.
alot of factors comes into play. you are now judging everything solely on your assumption. it might be right path to take it might not.
but i definitely more on the opposition side.