Novena Church exorcism suit begins
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just look at the GOP in the US...
they're all rich beyond reason.. yet they do..
besides, the woman is barking mad... or slithering madOriginally posted by chrisbenoit:
The fatty is a law graduate btw. And a private equity investor, whatever that is. Im guessing he must be quite well off. No need to cheat money or what. -
Do you report to some heretics or what?Originally posted by chrisbenoit:Novena is a Roman Catholic church? Say bye bye to the church lah. It's evil !!
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What's GOP?Originally posted by the Bear:just look at the GOP in the US...
they're all rich beyond reason.. yet they do..
besides, the woman is barking mad... or slithering mad -
Nov 17, 2007
'EXORCISM' CASE
Ex-neighbour: Plaintiff and witness were intimate
A FORMER neighbour of the woman at the centre of the Novena Church 'forced exorcism' lawsuit has said in an affidavit that Madam Amutha Valli Krishnan was intimate with the man she calls her 'sworn brother'.
Mr Ting Meng Chang said he had seen Madam Valli in a translucent nightdress behaving intimately with Mr Resham Singh in an Ang Mo Kio coffee shop where they were drinking alcohol.
This was said to have happened between 2000 and 2002, before the August 2004 church incident, for which Madam Valli is suing nine parties for compensation.
Mr Ting, who is in his 50s, said Mr Singh, 38, has been staying with her family from as far back as 2000, and they were often seen going out together.
This flies in the face of what Mr Singh and Madam Valli's two children have told the court - that he has stayed over only from this year, to look after her after the 'exorcism' left her in a bad way.
Yesterday, Mr Singh flatly rejected Mr Ting's claims, which were put to him by defence lawyer Denis Tan.
He also denied knowing Mr Ting. It is not certain now whether the former neighbour will take the stand.
Madam Valli's lawyer, Mr R.S. Bajwa, objected to his affidavit being admitted in court. Both sides will argue on this when the hearing resumes on Tuesday.
Mr Ting's input on the nature of the relationship between Madam Valli and Mr Singh came at the end of Mr Singh's third day on the stand.
The law-trained forex trader has emerged as a key figure in the suit, which Mr Tan is asserting was filed to milk money from the church.
Probing into Mr Singh's relationship with Madam Valli, Mr Tan produced notes by her doctors to whom she told in 2004 of her plans to leave her husband, but denied having an affair with her 'brother'.
Mr Tan asked Mr Singh to explain why, in 2003, they had travelled to Sydney on the same dates.
Mr Singh replied that when she heard he was going there for a seminar, she rounded up her children for a holiday. He added that he only booked the trip for her, and that they did not travel together.
Mr Tan also noted in court that Mr Singh seemed selective about when he regarded her as a 'sister': While he has insisted she is 'family', he has also denied kinship when asked why he didn't try harder to free her from the 'exorcism'.
Also on the stand briefly yesterday was Madam Valli's trainee-teacher son, Mr Jairaj Kumar Jeyabal, 28, who, like his sister Subashini, denied knowledge about his mother's past psychiatric conditions.
Madam Valli is in hospital and it is not clear whether she will return to the stand. -
the "Grand Ol' Party" which is the nickname of the Republican Party
most of them are connected or bought by big corporations.. dirty as hell...
Cheney and Bush have billions stashed away but they continue to wreak havoc and screw their own people and the world for profit...Originally posted by Honeybunz:What's GOP? -
oh i see i see... heheOriginally posted by the Bear:the "Grand Ol' Party" which is the nickname of the Republican Party
most of them are connected or bought by big corporations.. dirty as hell...
Cheney and Bush have billions stashed away but they continue to wreak havoc and screw their own people and the world for profit...
Coming back to the fat boyfriend.... I mean sworn brother who was seen acting imitate with sworn sister....
My guess:
He is law trained -- this means that he knows how to play around the law game for his own benefits.
His occupation -- investor. Investors are the people who know where to get the big bucks. While many do it in a lawful or even honest way, there bound to be some unethical ones. Some investors may lose in their investment and will do anything unscrupulous to make back the money.
Conclusion of my guess...
This guy needs money and his girlfriend, I mean sworn sister, loves money. So do her children. Well, who doesn't? It's more than $200,000 we are talking about. -
That church is digging out its coffers.
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Originally posted by Honeybunz:Do you report to some heretics or what?
I was with a church for at least 7 years. What do you think? Although not a catholic church. I know how churches can be.
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yeah right, very clever, bravo.Originally posted by chrisbenoit:
I was with a church for at least 7 years. What do you think? Although not a catholic church. I know how churches can be. -
Fresh twist in Amutha Valli's 'exorcism' trial
16 November 2007 2340 hrs
SINGAPORE: There was some startling revelations out of the High Court on Friday in the case of Amutha Valli, who is sueing the Novena Church for alleged forced exorcism.
Lawyers defending the Church have obtained new information from Amutha's former neighbour, who in an affidavit (a formal sworn statement) said the woman had been behaving intimately with her so-called 'sworn brother' since 2000.
The lawyers have spent the past few days trying to find out the exact relationship between 38-year old Resham Singh and the 52-year-old plaintiff and her family.
Amutha's daughter, son and Mr Resham himself had all testified that he was a close family friend.
Mr Resham had told the court that he first came to know the family in 2000 and got close around 2004 and even more so after the alleged exorcism on August 10 that year, which Amutha claimed had traumatised her.
Mr Resham said he only started to stay over at Amutha's house two to three times a week early this year at the request of Amutha's husband to "help the family watch over her".
But a sworn statement by their former neighbour, Ting Meng Chang, also known as Mike, suggested that this was certainly not the case.
Defence lawyer Denis Tan told the Court that since the trial started, their team has been receiving calls and emails from members of the public who have offered to give evidence.
But the latest from Mr Ting was perhaps the damnest against the plaintiff. His affidavit, however, has not yet been submitted as evidence.
Mr Tan asked Mr Resham if he knew of a neighbour called Mr Ting, whom Amutha was said to have introduced to Mr Resham as 'Mike' in 2000.
According to Mr Ting, Mr Resham was so frequently seen going in and out of Amutha's house between 2000 and 2002 that he thought Mr Resham was staying with Amutha.
He said Mr Resham usually left the residence early in the morning and returned late in the evening
Mr Tan said Mr Ting claimed that he had on five occasions joined Amutha and Mr Resham for drinks at a coffeeshop at their invitation.
On one occasion, Amutha was "dressed sexily in a translucent night dress. She had all but a jacket on, but she made no effort to cover up herself," according to Mr Ting. He also claimed that the two were "behaving intimately".
Mr Ting had also claimed that when he drank with the couple, Mr Resham usually drank beer while Amutha would usually finish an entire bottle of gin (a hard liquor).
But Mr Resham has denied all these allegations.
Amutha's lawyer R S Bajwa objected to Mr Ting's affidavit being submitted as evidence.
The lawyers will discuss this when hearing resumes on November 20.
Earlier, Amutha's son - 28-year-old Jairaj Kumar Jeyabal, a trainee teacher - testified that he has known Mr Resham for 15 years.
Lawyers asked him if it is true, referring to to his mother's doctor's records, that Amutha was beaten up by her husband, son and daughter when she refused to give the children more money. Jairaj defiantly denied them all.
He also denied that his mother was depressed, had mental problems and was addicted to alcohol and drugs.
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Neighbour tells court about Resham Singh and Madam Amutha
I saw him getting intimate with her
NOVENA CHURCH 'EXORCISM' SUIT
JUST like a brother?
By Crystal Chan
18 November 2007
JUST like a brother?
Then how come a neighbour saw you drinking gin with Madam Amutha Valli, who was in revealing clothes, at a coffee shop?
That was what Mr Resham Singh had to respond to in court yesterday.
A former neighbour of hers has come forward to say that MrSingh was intimate with her and that he began staying with her as early as 2000.
But Mr Singh continued to insist that he was her 'sworn brother'.
Madam Amutha, 51, an ex-tutor, is suing the Novena Church, two of its priests and six church members over what she claims was a forced exorcism on 10Aug2004.
Lawyer Denis Tan said the neighbour, Mr Ting Meng Chang, stated that he saw MadamAmutha and MrSingh drinking and behaving intimately around 2002.
Mr Tan is acting for three of the church members, and he mentioned this incident while cross-examining MrSingh yesterday about his relationship with MadamAmutha.
Mr Ting, a businessman, had volunteered to be a defence witness after reading about the case in the newspapers.
He lived opposite MadamAmutha's flat from 1986 to 2002, when he moved to Sembawang.
Mr Ting stated in his affidavit that every evening, MrSingh and MadamAmutha drank gin at the neighbourhood coffee shop, and they would go on till 1am.
Mr Ting said in his sworn statement that on one such session, MadamAmutha was wearing a nightdress so translucent that it was obvious she was not wearing any upper underwear.
Mr Tan said: 'She didn't attempt to cover herself up with the jacket that she carried.
'To all purposes, you had an intimate relationship with the plaintiff and that's why she was dressed in such a manner.'
Mr Tan said: 'Mike (MrTing) even joined you for some drinking sessions at the plaintiff's and your invitation.'
As on the previous days, MrSingh had a ready answer for every question.
He said this could not be true as he did not know about that coffee shop till last year.
He added: 'I drink red wine - I don't take hard liquor.'
Mr Ting deduced that MrSingh had in fact begun living with MadamAmutha in 2000.
He noted in his affidavit that in that period, MrSingh frequently went in and out of her Ang Mo Kio flat.
This contradicts MrSingh's claim that he began staying there only early this year.
Besides, according to their passports, both MrSingh and MadamAmutha were in Australia from 1 to 10 Apr 2003.
But Mr Singh claimed they were not together. He said: 'I went there for a seminar. At the same time, she wanted to gather her kids for a trip. I merely helped her to book the trip.'
Unconvinced, MrTan suggested to MrSingh that Madam Amutha's daughter, MissSubashini Jeyabal, 22, called her a slut and a prostitute because she let MrSingh sleep at her place.
Mr Singh said: 'Subashini has already testified and she has given her explanation.'
Miss Subashini stated that she said those words in a heated argument over her dropping out of Catholic Junior College.
SON EXPELLED
It also emerged yesterday that MadamAmutha's son, MrJairaj Kumar Jeyabal, 28, was asked to leave the National University of Singapore while he was a third-year engineering student.
Miss Subashini testified earlier that her brother, a trainee teacher, had dropped out of the course.
But under cross-examination by MrPPadman, the church's lawyer, MrJairaj Kumar said: 'Civil engineering wasn't appealing to me but I didn't make the effort to quit.
'I just simply didn't turn up for exams and NUS sent me a letter of disqualification.'
The episode apparently troubled MadamAmutha so much that in 2003, she became depressed and was treated by doctors at Flame Tree Medical Centre on Thomson Road.
She was also unhappy that her son drank and smoked.
To that, Mr Jairaj Kumar said: 'She wasn't happy about me smoking - no parent would be. And she wasn't happy that I used to go out with friends and have drinks with them.'
He also denied his mother is an alcoholic. 'If she was drinking half a bottle of gin every day, she would be dead by now,' he said.
'To my knowledge, she only had a sleeping disorder. She only became depressed and horrible after the exorcism. I can't comment on her medical history because you're showing me this for the first time.'
EXCHANGE OF THE DAY
YESTERDAY'S hearing was punctuated by sharp exchanges between the church's lawyer, Mr P Padman and Mr Jairaj Kumar Jeyabal, Madam Amutha Valli's son.
Mr Padman: Do you know that your mother told doctors that she had a platonic relationship with your father because of his drinking habit and character flaws?
Mr Jairaj Kumar: It's impossible. If that's the case, how could I have been born? How could my sister have been born? -
Every time one of them opens their mouth, the family becomes unbelievaly, slimer and slimer!
His "sworn" sister? nah. What - did his sworn brother save his life or something? So free to stay at her house and be with her 24-7 out of brotherly love to sworn brother?! This is a twis to friends with benefits!
One thing is obvious - the so-called sworn brother and the children have no concern for their mad dog lover/mother. All the ding dong over her medical appointments, various medications etc. show they don't really care about her health. -
We don't know how he spends his money. Or it may just be greed. look at the mad dog's two bleedy useless children. Too lazy to work hard or smart and think the easiest way to get money FOR OVERSEAS VACATION is to pull a fast con.Originally posted by chrisbenoit:
The fatty is a law graduate btw. And a private equity investor, whatever that is. Im guessing he must be quite well off. No need to cheat money or what.
The family better has plans to migrate. Singapore is a small country and the useless greedy children are just throwing their future away, everytime they open their greedy lying mouths. Who would want to hire them or even be friends with them.
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you know what?
this just screwed the plaintiff...
her "platonic relationship" resulted in the birth of her son.. now she also has a "platonic relationship" with that guy who is the "sworn brother"Originally posted by Honeybunz:EXCHANGE OF THE DAY
YESTERDAY'S hearing was punctuated by sharp exchanges between the church's lawyer, Mr P Padman and Mr Jairaj Kumar Jeyabal, Madam Amutha Valli's son.
Mr Padman: Do you know that your mother told doctors that she had a platonic relationship with your father because of his drinking habit and character flaws?
Mr Jairaj Kumar: It's impossible. If that's the case, how could I have been born? How could my sister have been born? -
It is a Roman Catholic Church, definitely... Hey... its a very nice place leh... been there a few times before... just can be very crowded during mass.Originally posted by chrisbenoit:Novena is a Roman Catholic church? Say bye bye to the church lah. It's evil !! -
We shall see what happens tomorrow at Court 4D.Originally posted by the Bear:you know what?
this just screwed the plaintiff...
her "platonic relationship" resulted in the birth of her son.. now she also has a "platonic relationship" with that guy who is the "sworn brother"
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Ah Vince boy boy, you got follow this case or not?Originally posted by vince69:It is a Roman Catholic Church, definitely... Hey... its a very nice place leh... been there a few times before... just can be very crowded during mass. -
Yah! Why is this case going on? The slimey lover also proven to be a liar. Can they be prosecuted for lying under oath? Their word is worthless. No wonder 4 of them can live together under one roof.Originally posted by Honeybunz:We shall see what happens tomorrow at Court 4D.
I honestly doubt the mad dog is as mad as she pretends to be. the way she has been seeing doctor after doctor and collecting medicine like taking sweets, who knows - they may have been preparing the way to sue a doctor or two for mistreatment! -
please get your FACTS right before commentingOriginally posted by chrisbenoit:
I was with a church for at least 7 years. What do you think? Although not a catholic church. I know how churches can be. 
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very juicy frivolicious lawsuit!!! hmm... yummy... keep it updated!
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Nov 21, 2007
Exorcism case: Tempers flare between plaintiff's son and defence lawyer
By Jermyn Chow
TEMPERS flared in court on Wednesday as Mr Jairaj Kumar Jeyabal, the 27-year-old son of the woman at the centre of the Novena Church 'forced exorcism' lawsuit, locked horns with a defence lawyer who accused him and his family members of telling 'a pack of lies'.
Lawyer Anthony Lee, acting for three defendants, found it hard to believe that Mr Jeyabal, a trainee teacher, with all his years of education, had never heard the term 'exorcism' before the August 2004 incident at the church.
What does education have to do with the word 'exorcism', Mr Jeyabal asked.
He shot back: 'Are they offering a subject called exorcism in school?'
The heated exchange set the tone for the rest of Mr Lee's cross-examination of Mr Jeyabal, whose snappy comebacks prompted the lawyer to repeatedly remind him to stop arguing.
'Let me lay down the rules. I ask the questions. You are not to be argumentative,' Mr Lee said at one point.
Mr Jeyabal's mother, Madam Amutha Valli Krishnan, has sued the Redemptorist Order that runs the church, two priests and six churchgoers, seeking compensation for the ordeal that so traumatised her that she can't lead a normal life.
Earlier in the day, defence lawyer Darrell Low said it was incredible how Mr Jeyabal, as Madam Valli's son who knows her well, never saw the need to speak to her doctors to get sedatives after the Aug 10 incident which allegedly left her traumatised.
His comeback: It is not his style.
'I have a different way of showing concern,' he retorted.
Justice Lee Seiu Kin also had some questions for Mr Jeyabal.
He asked the witness where and when he tried to call his father while Madam Valli was allegedly forced into the exorcism.
He also wondered why Mr Jeyabal had not followed his sister, Subashini, and mother into the toilet after the alleged ritual.
On Tuesday, Mr Jeyabal had described the 'exorcism' as 'a wrestling match' and called the priests 'thugs' and 'gangsters'.
The hearing continues on Thursday, when Madam Valli's taxi-driver husband, Mr Suppiah Jeyabal, takes the stand. -
Tomolo is Amutha's husband's turn to talk. Stay tuned...hehehe
Where is Amutha Valli ah?
One question... HOw come the Judge can also ask witness questions during cross examination one? Is that the usual practise? -
haha, i actually spent more than an hour this morning reading 5 pages of mumbo jumbos. nvm that.
am i the only person wondering how come the plaintiff is being examined more rigoulously than the defendants? -
it never crossed my mind because it's more than definite that the plaintiff is off her rocker or just picked the wrong people to sue this timeOriginally posted by newcomer:haha, i actually spent more than an hour this morning reading 5 pages of mumbo jumbos. nvm that.
am i the only person wondering how come the plaintiff is being examined more rigoulously than the defendants? -
yea, lol.
it seems the media are casting a shadow of doubt on the plaintiff. no matter, sg courts don't have juries anywaysOriginally posted by the Bear:it never crossed my mind because it's more than definite that the plaintiff is off her rocker or just picked the wrong people to sue this time