Rising trend of young graduates staying unemployed
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Uni? More academic based? What have you been doing? Accounting? Business Administration? That little bit of skill and hands-on you get in poly cannot be compared to what you touch in uni. In uni, you learn to become a professional.Originally posted by sbst275:I can only say that uni and poly learn in 2 dif ways
Uni - More Academic based
Poly - More skills and experience based -
Both uni and poly have hands-on too, job attachment programs are for real and those FYP, lab experiments are in industry standards as wellOriginally posted by sbst275:I can only say that uni and poly learn in 2 dif ways
Uni - More Academic based
Poly - More skills and experience based -
Actually, for poly... The 2nd or 3rd year is fully doing attachments for course like Bussiness (Certain)Originally posted by OrneryBoy:Both uni and poly have hands-on too, job attachment programs are for real and those FYP, lab experiments are in industry standards as well
I have to make it clear is that it depends on employers as well -
Then uni grads happy if they can't find one lah, issit?Originally posted by sbst275:Of course pay dif... But poly ppl happy if they can get a job already as times is so bad -
All equally happy lah... Just that poly ppl would think lesser chance as got ppl with degree looking for the same jobOriginally posted by ditzy:Then uni grads happy if they can't find one lah, issit? -
therefore your general kind of assumptions doesnt applyOriginally posted by sbst275:Actually, for poly... The 2nd or 3rd year is fully doing attachments for course like Bussiness (Certain)
I have to make it clear is that it depends on employers as well -
*AND the type of sectorOriginally posted by OrneryBoy:therefore your general kind of assumptions doesnt apply -
sbst275, so basically you're making your assumptions based upon your own experience? Am I right to say that? If you answered yes to the above question, then I can safely say, all my replies made above are based upon my own experiences as well.
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straying away from topic...
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oicOriginally posted by sbst275:*AND the type of sector
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Reasons for hiring Poly Grad
Well, for a job that a poly grad can handle, there isn't much reason for an employer to pay more to hire a uni grad. Even if a uni grad is willing to take lesser pay now, the employer will forsee the uni grad switching job when the economy gets better.
Reasons for hiring FTs
For a job that requires a uni grad to handle, the employers are tempted to hire the FTs who ask for lesser pay (e.g 2k for master degree holder).
Reasons for experience
1) Employer also wanted to hire those with experience is because they are proven.
2) And also the employer worries that the person leaves after the employer spends so much time training the person.
BTW, if statistics show that a poly grad get job easier than a uni grad, i think it is probably due to a poly grad lowering his/her expectations (e.g Engrng poly grads doing selling etc). -
actually it's not totally because the companies really need very experienced people, it's that many grads simply leave the job after a while if they can find another job with a higher pay... after all the time and money put in to train themOriginally posted by ditzy:Coz companies are looking for experience. Then the thing is, if you don't work or find employment, how you gonna gain experience to begin with, when no one wants to employ you when you have no experience.
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umm... i'm from engineering of a local U, it's quite true that the course is a bit academic based. i dunno abt polys though, probably only those who went from poly to uni can answer the hands-on vs academic qn.Originally posted by ditzy:Uni? More academic based? What have you been doing? Accounting? Business Administration? That little bit of skill and hands-on you get in poly cannot be compared to what you touch in uni. In uni, you learn to become a professional. -
I have to agree with you that Singapore uni is indeed more academic based, 100% results and all the horror stories I get from my pals in there. I took engineering in an overseas uni in Oz, they focused much more on real world applications, not 100% in books or writing, but in hands on and research areas. So I guess, such experiences vary from people to people.Originally posted by UandMe:umm... i'm from engineering of a local U, it's quite true that the course is a bit academic based. i dunno abt polys though, probably only those who went from poly to uni can answer the hands-on vs academic qn.