Pskistan's Bhutto killed
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I predict there might be civil war against the Islamists.. high chance that there will be strong battle between the military and the extremists soon...
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S'pore shocked, horrified at suicide attack that killed Pakistan's BhuttoBy Hasnita A Majid, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 28 December 2007 0002 hrs
SINGAPORE: Singapore is shocked and horrified at the suicide bomb attack that claimed the lives of Pakistani opposition leader Benazir Bhutto and other victims at an election rally in Rawalpindi earlier Thursday evening.
A statement by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs says Singapore strongly condemns the murders.
Singapore has also extended its deepest condolences to the families of Ms Bhutto and other victims.
The ministry adds that Singapore strongly supports the efforts of the Pakistani government to bring the perpetrators to justice and combat terrorism. - CNA/ac -
Originally posted by jay_rocks:but her name sounds very vulgar
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feel sad when i heard tis story anyways
poor woman, she love her country and she got killed -
bhutto lah....Originally posted by gunner77:
she even had a charge of money laundering through swiss banks -
Bush's speech just released!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnYPUmDVqLI
Pakistan: Al-Qaeda claims Bhutto's death http://www.adnkronos.com/AKI/English/Security/?id=1.0.1710322437
Karachi, 27 Dec. (AKI) - (by Syed Saleem Shahzad) - A spokesperson for the al-Qaeda terrorist network has claimed responsibility for the death on Thursday of former Pakistani prime minister Benazir Bhutto.
“We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahadeen,” Al-Qaeda’s commander and main spokesperson Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid told Adnkronos International (AKI) in a phone call from an unknown location, speaking in faltering English. Al-Yazid is the main al-Qaeda commander in Afghanistan.
It is believed that the decision to kill Bhutto, who is the leader of the opposition Pakistan People's Party (PPP), was made by al-Qaeda No. 2, the Egyptian doctor, Ayman al-Zawahiri in October.
Death squads were allegedly constituted for the mission and ultimately one cell comprising a defunct Lashkar-i-JhangviÂ’s Punjabi volunteer succeeded in killing Bhutto.
Bhutto had just addressed a pre-election rally on Thursday in the garrison town of Rawalpindi when the bomb went off.
She had come to Rawalpindi after finishing a rapid election campaign, ahead of the January polls, in Pakistan's volatile North West Frontier Province (NWFP) where she had talked about a war against terrorism and al-Qaeda.
Reports say at least 15 other people were killed in the attack and several others injured.
As news of Bhutto's death spread throughout the country, there are reports that people have taken to the streets to protest the death of the leader of the PPP, which has the largest support of any party in Pakistan.
In the southern port city of Karachi, Bhutto's hometown, residents reportedly threw stones at cars and burnt tyres. -
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minstrel
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Very sad.
Brave or foolish/reckless, take yr pick.
Musharraf will say i told u so......he tried to stop her from her mass rallies but western politicians criticised him. Now see what has happened.
Just like last time western media and politicians critised thaksin like crazy, then got used as foools by the thai king and military to oust thaksin and impose martial law.
Western media and politicians are usually fools when it comes to understanding the machinations of politics in asia.
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Posted: Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:01 am Post subject:
See that dow open down 100+pts but that is about it.
So maybe STI open down -30pts+.
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Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:54 pm Post subject:
Thru some insider info, oil price is set to surge pass US$120 within Jan'08. Bhutto died & causing panic. US just declared oil supplies not enough. Oil up...Pakistan has nuclear power....tensions in Middle East escalating at Turkey side...Inflation all over the whole...Stagflation set to come in in many economies....ask Urself---------CAN U TRUST YOUR MONEY WITH STI??? DREAM ON....CRASH is imminent...RUN!!!
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minstrel wrote:
STI dip will be temporary at most.
Nobody really cares if Bhutto gets killed. She is not even in power.
Dip at open, then recover.
If Musharraf was killed then situation is more complex.
Actually, to be very ruthless, it is better that Musharraf does not have Bhutto to disturb him, as for pakistan to remain stable, we need Musharraf to be strong.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2007 11:36 pm Post subject:
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Honorable Chowahbeng,
I do not know Bhutto well, but I don't see her as a heroine, rather as a stubborn woman who just goes ahead in the way she wants, never mind if her followers get killed.
If I were her, I would not put my supporters at risk with those huge rallies, esp after the first attack.
I would use my BLAIN and campaign without such mass rallies.
A leader must always protect her followers and Bhutto did not do it. If necessary a leader must put herself first in danger to protect her followers and Bhutto has not done this.
In fact she seems willing to sacrifice her followers just so that she has the best chance of being elected(from her mass rallies). -
AQ stood to gain the most by causing instability firstly by the death of Sulaiman in Lebanon, and now Bhutto..
Someone else could be next.. in that region . -
Originally posted by buffered:
naive.
best to be in singapore la. argue argue act want to fight in the end our friends will pull them apart and say eh relack ar relack. problem solved.
in singapore, at the end of the day, all of us are fellow soldiers. i really really love our closely knitted racial communities. and singlish is the language that bonds all the races together.
singapore ftw. alot of countries including US and UK should learn from us. -
damn those focking extremists........
death penalty to all extremists -
Bhutto had sent an email before her death saying that if she was killed, Musharraf is responsible..
i would say that even if true, isn't that bloody irresponsible of her?
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okay.. her goddamned friend is saying Bhutto is totally blameless for her own death...
thing is, she knows that there are lots of plots to murder her..
yet she stuck her own body out the bloody sunroof of her goddamned car.. making her vulnerable..
she asked for tinted windows and jammers for IEDs.. thing is, none of that would have mattered...
blaming the government but hell! she kept putting herself in harm's way, she's going to die..
so... whose fault is it?
the victim who purposely sticks her hand into the hornets' nest or the hornets? -
My dua sen....
I will not totally rule out the possibility that Musharraf is involved, but I must say that it is extremely unlikely that he had a hand in this.
Having his strongest political opponent out of the picture is one thing.... but potentially destabilising the entire country into possible civil war is just too great a risk for him to take.
He may be foolish, but I doubt he's really THAT stupid.
I'm more inclined to believe that this could be the handiwork of Al Qaeda-linked militants who want to take Pakistan out of the picture in the War on Terror. -
reminds me of a thread about someone asking me to do a vasectomy to prove my manliness and to champion a cause.
Guess she wont be fighting for the cause now that she is dead eh. -
okay.. she got killed..
so her supporters go on a rampage and demolish a lot of places, setting places and vehicles on fire...
so far, 9 people have been killed in the rampage...
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Now Musharaff has become the only person US can depend on in Pakistan to support them.
With increased support from US for Musharaff and without a strong ally Butto, Shariff will find it more difficult to take back the prime minister post.
Maybe good for Shariff to lose the election for now, coz if he win, who knows he may become the next martyr. -
I dun see musharaf gaining from her death with the election coming up... as public sentiments turn against him, i tink sharif will gain most from her death
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She sent an email to Musharraf saying members of his cabinet ae plotting her death. Somehow I feel she got this coming from the way she was behaving all this while.
Perhaps Musharrafwould declare martial law and take over pakistan one again. -
Musharraf has a face that when I look at it, I feel that this man is not corrupted.
I hope I'm right.
Pakistan is so chaotic that it's hard to govern. If he can stabilize Pakistan, he's also the better choice to lead the country slowly towards democracy.
I do not wish to see him get assassinated. I wish him success. -
There is a very big difference with being courageous and brave on one end, and being foolhardy on the other end.
With her death, all her dreams and objectives have just went into thin smoke. What has she achieved, showing herself at public rallies?
Just like to sum up her death in one phrase. "Pakistan ji pai jia lat liao..."
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Bhutto died trying to duck from blast, not bullet or bomb: ministry
Posted: 29 December 2007 0016 hrs
ISLAMABAD : Pakistan's interior ministry said Friday that Benazir Bhutto was killed after smashing her head on her car's sunroof while trying to duck, and that no bullet or shrapnel was found inside her.
The ministry also said it had intercepted a phone call from a top Al-Qaeda figure congratulating a militant for the attack on her Thursday, and said there was "irrefutable evidence" the group was trying to destabilise the country.
Bhutto's death after a suicide bomber blew himself up at her campaign rally has plunged this nuclear-armed Islamic nation into turmoil, but the ministry said she would have lived if only she had stayed inside her car.
"If she had not come out of the vehicle, she would have been unhurt, as all the other occupants of the vehicle did not receive any injuries," ministry spokesman Brigadier Javed Cheema said.
He said the post-mortem on the populist opposition leader, whose funeral earlier Friday was attended by hundreds of thousands of mourners, found her mortal wound came when she tried to duck after the bomber attacked.
The bomber also apparently fired three times at her but missed, Cheema said.
When she ducked, she hit the lever of the sunroof of the car that was to speed her away from a campaign rally as she was gearing up to contest parliamentary elections set for January 8.
"The lever struck near her right ear and fractured her skull," Cheema said. "There was no bullet or metal shrapnel found in the injury."
Cheema showed a brief video of the moments before the attack and the blast itself but it was unclear.
He said intelligence services had intercepted a call Friday from the man considered to be a top Al-Qaeda figure for Pakistan, Baitullah Mehsud, congratulating a militant after Bhutto's death.
He said there was "irrefutable evidence that Al-Qaeda, its networks and cohorts are trying to destabilise Pakistan".
"We have recorded his conversation in which he is congratulating a militant for the attack," Cheema said, adding that Mehsud was also behind the suicide attack on Bhutto's homecoming rally in October that killed 139 people.
"He is responsible for most of the attacks that have taken place in the country," the spokesman said, calling for national unity "to eliminate the proponents of death and destruction who are trying to destabilise Pakistan."
Pakistani authorities say Mehsud is based in the troubled tribal region of South Waziristan, where troops have been battling Islamist rebels since the fall of the Taliban in neighbouring Afghanistan in 2001.
Mehsud had until recently been described by officials as the top pro-Taliban militant commander in the region but is increasingly said to have links to bin Laden's Al-Qaeda group. -
Global fears for Pakistan after Bhutto killing
Posted: 29 December 2007 0521 hrs
PARIS : The assassination of Pakistan opposition leader Benazir Bhutto sent shockwaves around the world on Friday with Poland ordering extra troops to Afghanistan and other countries vowing new help to battle Al-Qaeda.
Many countries, however, also urged President Pervez Musharraf to keep Pakistan on the path to democracy, despite the killing of Bhutto in a suicide bomb attack at an election rally on Thursday.
Pope Benedict XVI is praying for an end to violence in Pakistan after the "brutal terrorist attack" that killed Bhutto, the Vatican said.
Poland will add 400 troops to its force of 1,600 in Afghanistan as a direct response to the assassination of Bhutto, Polish Defence Minister Bogdan Klich said.
"The destabilisation of the situation in Pakistan and the danger that this instability will expand in the region and to Afghanistan has forced us to reinforce our military contingent," he told Poland's TVN24 news channel. The extra troops would be deployed in April or May.
Britain, France, Italy, Malaysia, Singapore, Spain and other countries warned their nationals against going to Pakistan. Japan told its citizens in the country not to leave their hotels or lodgings.
With widespread doubts over whether Pakistan will go ahead with scheduled elections on January 8, British Prime Minister Gordon Brown called on Musharraf to "build democracy" in talks with the Pakistani leader. He also offered extra help to combat Al-Qaeda.
The British leader said in a statement he "encouraged President Musharraf to stick to the course he has outlined to build democracy and stability in Pakistan."
Brown said the killing was "a potent reminder of the threat we face from terror."
"Pakistan is a major ally in the global effort to combat this menace," Brown said. "I told President Musharraf that the UK (United Kingdom) is prepared to sustain and build the already significant counter-terrorism support we offer his country, not least in the effort to destroy Al-Qaeda."
US President George W. Bush also called, on Thursday, for Musharraf to stay on the path of democracy despite the killing which the Pakistan government said was the work of Al-Qaeda.
The US president urged Pakistanis "to honor Benazir Bhutto's memory by continuing with the democratic process for which she so bravely gave her life."
The two-time former prime minister was shot at by an attacker before he blew himself up at a campaign rally in Rawalpindi, killing at least 20 people.
Bhutto hit her head on her car sunroof avoiding the bullets and died, according to the Pakistan government.
UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon said Bhutto's assassination "represents an assault on stability in Pakistan and its democratic processes".
The UN Security Council agreed a non-binding statement that condemned "in the strongest terms the terrorist suicide attack" in Pakistan.
Pakistan's neighbours, fearing an extremist spill-over if nuclear-armed Pakistan were to spiral out of control, were quick to respond.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who met Bhutto only hours before her death, called the assassination an act of "immense brutality" against one of the Muslim world's leading women.
"I am deeply sorry, deeply pained that this brave sister... this great daughter of the Muslim world is no longer with us," he said.
In Europe, France voiced concerns on Friday over the possibility of Pakistan's nuclear weapons falling into the hands of the extremists and the threat to stability across South Asia caused by the killing.
"That is why we regard Pakistan and the odious assassination of Benazir Bhutto in part as an assassination of democracy... and we must not allow that," said French Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner.
Strong reaction also came from the Muslim world.
President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono of Indonesia, the world's most populous Muslim nation, called Bhutto's murder "a severe blow to Pakistan's democratic process" and expressed his hope that "the law be upheld and democracy be respected in Pakistan."
Turkey, a close ally of Pakistan, said the killing "undoubtedly aims to draw Pakistan into chaos and instability."
The International Crisis Group, a conflict resolution think tank, called for a UN inquiry into the killing, saying that the Pakistan government "is not in a position to carry out a fair investigation."
"The United Nations Security Council should meet urgently to establish an international commission of enquiry to determine who ordered and carried out the killings," it said.
"Given the longstanding connections between the Pakistani military and jihadi groups, this would be the only way to carry out an impartial and credible investigation."
- AFP /ls
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No obvious successor to lead Bhutto's party: analysts
By S Ramesh, Channel NewsAsia | Posted: 28 December 2007 1727 hrs
SINGAPORE : There is no obvious successor to lead the Pakistan People's Party following the death of its leader Benazir Bhutto, according to a Visiting Senior Research Fellow at Singapore's Institute of South Asian Studies.
Professor Ishtiaq Ahmed also expects the days ahead for Pakistan following the assassination to continue to be tumultuous.
Meanwhile, Singapore's Foreign Ministry said it is closely monitoring the situation and has advised Singaporeans travelling to the country to reconsider their plans if there are no pressing reasons to go there now.
Analysts have described Ms Bhutto as a leader for the popular masses, and someone who was concerned for the common man.
Professor Ishtiaq explained, "(This is) simple because there has not been the democratic process in place for people to normally express their preferences.
"So it was the Pakistan People's Party founded by her father at the end of 1967 which emerged as the party of the poor and the neglected classes of Pakistan. And that reputation of being the party of the underdog has been the reputation of the PPP."
Professor Ishtiaq does not think Ms Bhutto's husband stands the chance of becoming a national leader to take over the reins of the Pakistan People's Party.
For the opposition as a whole, former premier Nawaz Sharif stands to gain the most, but he has indicated boycotting the coming elections.
Professor Ishtiaq said, "If Pervez Musharraf now wants to have them (the elections) on the 8th of January, it is only going to be an indication of his complete loss of touch with the reality. Nobody is going to take the 8th January election seriously. It is too soon after this major catastrophe. So I think elections will be postponed.
"He and (Ms Bhutto) were reportedly working out some power sharing deal. Now he is without a partner to have a deal with. So I think his own position is radically diminished. Personally I think he will be forced to leave."
Researchers on South Asia feel that a greater integration of countries of that region, especially India and Pakistan, would bring about much economic benefits, especially in this age of globalisation.
But they also regret that that is probably a long time away to achieve, especially with current developments in Pakistan.
Professor Ishtiaq said it is a very depressing time for Pakistan, and he thinks the country is in for several weeks of instability, turmoil, and bloodshed. - CNA/ms
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sad thing about Pakistan is that.. none of the leaders are of any use.. not even Bhutto..
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Originally posted by nightzip:
The guy behind the President looks like... BORAT!
The effects coming in liao.....
[b]President Musharraf appeals for peace after Bhutto's death
Posted: 27 December 2007 2314 hrs
ISLAMABAD : Pakistan President Pervez Musharraf appealed to the nation to remain peaceful on Thursday after the assassination of Benazir Bhutto "so that the evil designs of terrorists can be defeated," state TV said.
The announcement came while the president was holding an emergency meeting of top officials after Bhutto was killed in a suicide attack following a campaign rally in the city of Rawalpindi. - AFP/de