PANCHEN LAMA=REINCARNATION OF BUDA AMIDA?
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By reaching the Mahaparinirvana wasn't Sakyamuni supposed to be reborn never again as human being?
How is it possible the Panchen Lamas might be Amida(Opame)? -
Amituofo,
Conventionally speaking Amitabha and Shakyamuni Buddha are 2 different Buddhas. Shakyamuni Buddha attain Buddhahood about 2500-3000 years back. While Amitabha Buddha attain buddhahood about 10 mahakalpas ago, a lot longer than Shakyamuni.
In the Buddha speak Brahma Net Sutra : Shakyamuni Buddha said that, that was His 8000 times coming back in Saha World."I have come to this world eight thousand times. Based in this Saha World, seated upon the Jeweled Diamond Seat in Bodhgaya and all the way up to the palace of the Brahma King, I have spoken in general about the Mind-Ground Dharma Door for the benefit of the great multitude. "
You must meant Parinirvana than MahaParinirvana. Both Amitabha and Shakyamuni Buddha had not MahaParinirvana yet. Shakyamuni Buddha only will MahaParinirvana in around 5.67billions from now, when Maitreya Buddha come to take over as the next Buddha. Before then, they Parinirvana all the time when they go and display as Buddha in other World Systems.
Amitabha Buddha will MahaParinirvana in around measureless, limitless asamkhyeyas of kalpas from now when Kuan Shi Yin Bodhisattva take over to become Lord of Sukhavati (Western Land of Ultimate Bliss )Moreover, Shariputra, the lifespan of that Buddha and that of his people extends for measureless, limitless asamkhyeyas of kalpas. For this reason he is called Amitayus. And, Shariputra, since Amitabha became a Buddha, ten kalpas have passed. -- Amitabha Sutra
Measureless, limitless, asamkhyeyas are few of the last 10 namings of Buddhism number naming.
asamkhyeyas = abt 1 & 59 zeros.
Measureless = asamkhyeyas x asamkhyeyas
limitless = Measureless x Measureless
This is excluding kalpas!
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Amituofo! -
Actually, not all Panchen Lamas are Amitabha or all Dalai Lamas must be Avalokitesvara Bodhisattva.Originally posted by frsjulio: By reaching the Mahaparinirvana wasn't Sakyamuni supposed to be reborn never again as human being?
How is it possible the Panchen Lamas might be Amida(Opame)?
I think for the Dalai Lama, it was the 5th Dalai Lama that was particularly known to be the incarnation of the Avalokitesvara Bodhisattva (otherwise known as Guan Yin). I'm not so sure about the Panchen Lama's story.
According to the Dalai Lama, it is possible that Avalokitesvara/Amitabha "passes the job" to the others. But the (current) 14th Dalai Lama himself says, he has visions and dreams of the 5th and 13th Dalai Lama (the Great Dalai Lamas).
As for whether Shakyamuni Buddha has entered Mahaparinirvana,
Since I have realized Buddhahood,
the eons through which I have passed
are immeasurable hundreds of thousands of millions of billions.
Continuously have I voiced the Dharma,
teaching untold billions of beings
how to turn their hearts around
that they might enter the Buddha's path;
to ferry these sentient beings to the Other Shore
I reveal to them, by skillful means,
my parinirvana
yet truly I am not extinct
but always abiding here
giving voice to the Dharma.
I continue to abide in this world,
using my spiritual powers
to make confused creatures not see me,
though I am near,
so that they may look on me as extinct
and make offerings to my relics,
cherishing longing desires
and giving rise to hearts thirsting for hope.
- Lotus Sutra Chapter 16, Lifespan of the Tathagatha
It is known that Shakyamuni Buddha continue to be teaching within our 3000 world system, but still generally (out of expedient means) we say that Shakyamuni Buddha has entered Parinirvana.
And as for Amitabha, it was known that Amitabha is still living in Sukhavati, (the Western Pure Land), teaching the dharmas to the "Sukhavatians". -
It is known that Shakyamuni Buddha continue to be teaching within our 3000 world system, but still generally (out of expedient means) we say that Shakyamuni Buddha has entered Parinirvana.
to be clear abit,
"3000 world system" is called in chinese Èýǧ´óǧÊÀ½ç(ie. Three Thousand Great Thousand World). The '3000' only indicates the three kinds of thousands, while it actually mean just One Great/Maha chiliocosm.
Èýǧ´óǧÊÀ½ç tri-sahasra-mah¨¡-sahasra-loka-dh¨¡tu, a great chiliocosm; Èýǧ; Èýǧ½ç, ÈýǧÊÀ½ç. Mt. Sumeru and its seven surrounding continents, eight seas and ring of iron mountains form one small world; 1, 000 of these form a small chiliocosm �¡Ç§ÊÀ½ç; 1, 000 of these small chiliocosms form a medium chiliocosm Ö�ǧÊÀ½ç; a thousand of these form a great chiliocosm ´óǧÊÀ½ç, which thus consists of 1, 000, 000, 000 small worlds. The Èýǧ indicates the above three kinds of thousands, therefore Èýǧ´óǧÊÀ½ç is the same as ´óǧÊÀ½ç, which is one Buddha-world.
http://www.human.toyogakuen-u.ac.jp/~acmuller/soothill/soothill-hodous.html#body.1_div.1
A DICTIONARY OF CHINESE-BUDDHIST TERMS
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Amituofo! -
lama are tibetan buddism. Too many versions going around...confusing poor folks who don't known their history...
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Thanks, Sinweiy for that informative post.
Maggot, yes, "lama" is a Tibetan word, a term for a (dharma) Teacher.
Tibetan Buddhism has a very special tradition different from the other forms of Buddhism, which is that the Lama/Rinpoche would give indications, prophecy, on where to find the next incarnation to take over his job after he dies. In addition, there are other lamas/yogis who would have visions of the new incarnation. After that they would go on a search, find the person, and do a test and if the person answers the tests perfectly, and, after consulting the Spiritual Oracle (not the Matrix one
) he can be considered the right incarnation.
I am personally not from Tibetan Buddhism, but one of the moderators, Origami, is. Perhaps he can share more insight on Tibetan things, if you have any questions.
In Buddhism there are three major traditions of Buddhism, but ultimately the teachings lead to the same goal. The three traditions are Theravada, Mahayana, Vajrayana. In additions there are different sects which focus on different practices, dharma doors. In Buddhism there are 84000 dharma doors, which explains why there are different practises. Each dharma door is like a medicine, if it works for you, then it is the best medicine. -
THANKS VERY MUCH MY BROTHERS FOR YOUR HELP