mara turned Buddha's disciple?
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Hi Eternal Now,Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Hi, what you made you think that demons caused her to turn into a spirit?
In Buddhism, there are detailed descriptions on 36 kinds of spirits. Some of these spirits are vengeful, wanting to take revenge on certain people (humans). Some of them want to take away their lives so that they can join them in the spirit realms (people with suicidal thoughts are more vulnerable to this). etc...
We do not term all such spirits as 'demons'.. Maras usually mean differently.
Thanks for the description.
Demons are not deceased humans. They are not humans, they are a different class of beings...
About Demons, Kyo (from my forum) is the expert
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Hi, Buddhism classification of spirits are very very wide. No spirits are humans although some may retain some form of human look. Some of them have some good karma and even respected by some people.. those are called 'Gui-Shen' (ghost deities). Spirits has a lot of varieties just as animals have a lot of varieties. It is also possible for human beings to be reborn in any of those realms if one has much evil karma.Originally posted by longchen:Hi Eternal Now,
Thanks for the description.
Demons are not deceased humans. They are not humans, they are a different class of beings... -
Hi, this is a small description of each of the 36 kinds of Spirits in Buddhism: http://80.237.203.157/cgi-bin/topic.cgi?forum=46&topic=722&show=0
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In this forum, i better watch what i write is within Buddhist belief or i may get slammed.Originally posted by maggot:And 1 more thing, people slained by dark energies will linger around in the world.
Their souls or spirits have reached a condition unsuitable to go to elsewhere
So this is my understanding ONLY,
Usually the trauma expereinced when a person die is what cause their consciousness to get stuck in that realm.
In the case of the deceased white woman, she keeps dwelling on the pain of her death. That was why i felt her high fever... She keeps focussing on the pain caused by the fever.
If only they can let go... they will be free from that realm. However, it often takes external intervention to bring them out of their focus/attachment to the suffering. -
Yes, that is quite true.
Someone asked what will happen to those who committed suicide by jumping off a building.. my dharma teacher says such people may have to "die over and over again" (the spirit doesnt die but the scene repeats) as a spirit, just like a tape recorder replaying again non stop. -
Hi longchen,
Did you do anything to make them go away?
There are a lot ways to do that in Buddhism and other religions, I wonder how you new age guys do it? -
At that time, I do not know what to do... I am not trained to do such work. What i did later on, what to request for light-beings to rescue these trapped beings. This is just a prayer... in a meditative state. I did not do any follow up after that.Originally posted by namelessness:Hi longchen,
Did you do anything to make them go away?
There are a lot ways to do that in Buddhism and other religions, I wonder how you new age guys do it?
Some of the lightworkers actually do such work... call soul retreiving/rescuing. They will alter their consciousness to communicate and try to persuade the stuck consciousness/ghost. Something a light-being will be around to guide the ghost towards the Light.
From what i know, there are massive soul-retreiving going on around the planet right now. There is a huge project to clean-up the darker energies on this planet. -
more importantly what leads to ghost realms.
10 kind of parsimonious greed leading to hungry ghost realm rebirth.
1-3) lower level of 10 evil deeds (3 bodily, 4 speech, 3 intentional).
4) excessive greed (ie obsession)
5) forceful greed (eg robber)
6) envy greed (envy of other's wealth/fame)
7) wrong view (not knowing cause and effect)
8 ) stingy for life and hence at the last moment hard to let go of its belongings. (for sure will enter ghost realm)
9) illness (due to a illness, one cannot eat, ie hunger to death)
10) thirst to death (due to humidity or high fever)
thus learn from Nun Jing Lian,
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Oh, I see. I guessed that you must have done something. And I think it worked. If I am not wrong, I think Tibetan Buddhism has similar approach with new age too. I mean visualization techniques. My master almost became a Lama when he was young. He was well trained in Tibetan Buddhism. He once taught one of our dharma brother to visualize a light beam column shining down from the Buddha onto his mother in order to heal her long-standing disease. So I think the principle is the same.Originally posted by longchen:At that time, I do not know what to do... I am not trained to do such work. What i did later on, what to request for light-beings to rescue these trapped beings. This is just a prayer... in a meditative state. I did not do any follow up after that.
Some of the lightworkers actually do such work... call soul retreiving/rescuing. They will alter their consciousness to communicate and try to persuade the stuck consciousness/ghost. Something a light-being will be around to guide the ghost towards the Light.
From what i know, there are massive soul-retreiving going on around the planet right now. There is a huge project to clean-up the darker energies on this planet. -
Hi Namelessness,Originally posted by namelessness:Oh, I see. I guessed that you must have done something. And I think it worked. If I am not wrong, I think Tibetan Buddhism has similar approach with new age too. I mean visualization techniques. My master almost became a Lama when he was young. He was well trained in Tibetan Buddhism. He once taught one of our dharma brother to visualize a light beam column shining down from the Buddha onto his mother in order to heal her long-standing disease. So I think the principle is the same.
Thanks for the info. Yah... i think the principle must be similar also.