What's non-dualism?
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I did not start it, if you may ask.Originally posted by maggot:You are bringing Jesus here for what?
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i am the one who started it, why aim him?Originally posted by Eye in the Sky:I did not start it, if you may ask.
.. you supported this notion as you quoted in your earlier post .. recall?
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Erm, I agree 'walk with Buddha' is a little weird, but 'hear his teachings' is ok mah...Originally posted by laurence82:i have no idea, but its for u guys to see
As long as i have been reading up on Buddhism, or been reading this forum, i have never seen anyone uses terms such as 'walk with Buddha' or 'hear his teachings'
These particular terms are used commonly in another faith though, referring to someone else.
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pardon me, but even if there is difference in the way u guys inteprete it, one should remain humble....Originally posted by maggot:I have already found out more than you do about Buddha
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No such thing what so everOriginally posted by Eye in the Sky:I did not start it, if you may ask.
.. you supported this notion as you quoted in your earlier post .. recall?
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As for reach the other shore... it's mentioned in sutras, one of them Heart Sutra in the mantra. It means crossing over the sea of samsara to the shore of liberation.Originally posted by laurence82:reached the other shore? whats that?
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There's no need for sarcasm here ... pls be forewarned. Who is qualified to teach you? You are your own teacher (that is ... if you understand what is meant here) ... by any standards your egotistical attitude has already shrouded you in the darkest of mental capacity to realise anything of substantial substance, other than going through the normal life cycle of eat, sleep, ya gerti yah . I think you have failed.Originally posted by maggot:You don't need to teach me. You are not even fit.
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I have already found out more than you do about Buddha
Self proclaimation (if that's what I think you are doing) of self-belief is not going to get you enlightened. I think no one will be fit to 'walk with you'.
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then i gotta disagree with Eye in the Sky, unlike most here, i am not even a practising BuddhistOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:As for reach the other shore... it's mentioned in sutras, one of them Heart Sutra in the mantra. It means crossing over the sea of samsara to the shore of liberation.
so i wouldnt have the experience, practice or whatever, to reach the other shore...
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Originally posted by Eye in the Sky:
Nothing contradicts emptiness. Really nothing
There are no past Buddhas?? Look at your own quote above? "... met and learnt from countless [b]Buddhas before ." I don't know your real intention to contradicting yourself. That is of course you intended it that way. Only you know best ... with the benefit of the doubt. However, looking at it from all mental angles, I think the odds are that you were not consciously doing it ie errata!
If not, I think Hui Neng would have been grossly disappointed == "What is your face before your parents are born?"
Anyway ... if anyone can recall ... Buddha expounded on Cause and Effect, and later on, if you realised, and consequently it leading to Effect becoming the Cause. It's a cycle. But you need to be neither ... nor ...
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Oh I have finally know what is happeningOriginally posted by Eye in the Sky:There's no need for sarcasm here ... pls be forewarned. Who is qualified to teach you? You are your own teacher (that is ... if you understand what is meant here) ... by any standards your egotistical attitude has already shrouded you in the darkest of mental capacity to realise anything of substantial substance, other than going through the normal life cycle of eat, sleep, ya gerti yah . I think you have failed.
Self proclaimation (if that's what I think you are doing) of self-belief is not going to get you enlightened. I think no one will be fit to 'walk with you'.
What did you find out about Buddha ... share with us!
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say lehOriginally posted by maggot:Oh I have finally know what is happening
Special Thanks to those who PM me
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Originally posted by maggot:Oh I have finally know what is happening
Special Thanks to those who PM me 
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Don't be the local 'Buddha'. Buddhism is universal, it transcends but yet embraces Universality. If you think Buddhism is only applicable to a certain 'group-agreeable' subset of relevancy or 'hush-hush can't connect to this or that term used elsewhere by other groups of people', then seriously I think Buddhism has fallen into the backwaters of a truly great philosophy and way of life.
Don't be the proverbial 'frog in the well', dropping back to the solace of 'group' therapy to feel accepted or to be on the 'right' track.
If everyone saw the same thing, then they saw nothing at all ... ccf Hui Neng's 'wind and flag' koan.
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Silence is golden! But is it still sound when there is no one to hear it?
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but even as u can adapt buddhism into ur life, there are core fundamentalsOriginally posted by Eye in the Sky:Don't be the local 'Buddha'. Buddhism is universal, it transcends but yet embraces Universality. If you think Buddhism is only applicable to a certain 'group-agreeable' subset of relevancy or 'hush-hush can't connect to this or that term used elsewhere by other groups of people', then seriously I think Buddhism has fallen into the backwaters of a truly great philosophy and way of life.
Don't be the proverbial 'frog in the well', dropping back to the solace of 'group' therapy to feel accepted or to be on the 'right' track.
If everyone saw the same thing, then they saw nothing at all ... ccf Hui Neng's 'wind and flag' koan.
The path to Enlightenment is not for faint-hearted!
for example, the five precepts, reincarnations and so on
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i would agree to that actually. Everyone can reach Enlightenment, even those with an unpure mind! Hui Neng realised that too. That's why he said the world of his time, even the present world (the 21st century) is not ready to 'receive' the Sudden Enlightenment approach.Originally posted by laurence82:but even as u can adapt buddhism into ur life, there are core fundamentals
for example, the five precepts, reincarnations and so on
or else, anything, and everything can be used...
That's one of the main reason why Dharma teachers throughout the world still 'enforce' the Gradual Enlightenment approach on their student, and require those on the 'path' to have lots of self-cultivation thus placing maximum emphasis on precepts etc. It's just a means to the end (ie Enlightenment).
However, it is also a trap, if not done properly or explained. Many people fell into it, trapped in its web. They'd mistaken that self-cultivation IS the key to Enlightenment. NO! Absolutely NOT. These people behave and present themselves like they don't have a spot of imperfection on them, with perfect mannerisms, very cultured. But it's not! Attachement to self-cultivation as the means to the end (ie Enlightenment) is the bottomless pit one must avoid.
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self cultivation = presenting themselves with perfect mannerism?Originally posted by Eye in the Sky:i would agree to that actually. Everyone can reach Enlightenment, even those with an unpure mind! Hui Neng realised that too. That's why he said the world of his time, even the present world (the 21st century) is not ready to 'receive' the Sudden Enlightenment approach.
That's one of the main reason why Dharma teachers throughout the world still 'enforce' the Gradual Enlightenment approach on their student, and require those on the 'path' to have lots of self-cultivation thus placing maximum emphasis on precepts etc. It's just a means to the end (ie Enlightenment).
However, it is also a trap, if not done properly or explained. Many people fell into it, trapped in its web. They'd mistaken that self-cultivation IS the key to Enlightenment. NO! Absolutely NOT. These people behave and present themselves like they don't have a spot of imperfection on them, with perfect mannerisms, very cultured. But it's not! Attachement to self-cultivation as the means to the end (ie Enlightenment) is the bottomless pit one must avoid.
Anyway ... agree to disagree .. or .. disagree to agree
i think thats a misuse of the words self cultivation
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no, not that way ... self-cultivation should be towards mental cultivationOriginally posted by laurence82:self cultivation = presenting themselves with perfect mannerism?
i think thats a misuse of the words self cultivation
just like being educated doesnt mean holding a scroll of paper....or maturity doesnt go with age
Remember ... the body is just the vessel for the mind to do its work, ie reach enlightenment in the lifetime of the body!
That's how most followers are conducting themselves ... a well polished mirror projecting an 'image' of the yet un-realised essence of the Buddha nature ... nothing wrong in that! The world would be a better place BUT if you want to realise enlightenment ...
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Cultivating our moral conduct is better than cultivating our actions. Cultivating our mind is better than cultivating our moral conduct. Maintaining non-origination of the mind is better than cultivating it. - http://www.jenchen.org.sg/cultivat.htm
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hmm, thats precisely what i am saying...Originally posted by Eye in the Sky:no, not that way ... self-cultivation should be towards mental cultivation
Remember ... the body is just the vessel for the mind to do its work, ie reach enlightenment in the lifetime of the body!
That's how most followers are conducting themselves ... a well polished mirror projecting an 'image' of the yet un-realised essence of the Buddha nature ... nothing wrong in that! The world would be a better place BUT if you want to realise enlightenment ...
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so ... there you go ... maintaining the no-mind ... well ... another story ...Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Cultivating our moral conduct is better than cultivating our actions. Cultivating our mind is better than cultivating our moral conduct. Maintaining non-origination of the mind is better than cultivating it. - http://www.jenchen.org.sg/cultivat.htm
sorry people ... me catching the live England-Ireland match on the tele, it's been a good sunny day here in London, so enjoy the game wherever you are ... -
You come from England?Originally posted by Eye in the Sky:so ... there you go ... maintaining the no-mind ... well ... another story ...
sorry people ... me catching the live England-Ireland match on the tele, it's been a good sunny day here in London, so enjoy the game wherever you are ... -
i have no idea, but pls dont be very insistent on thisOriginally posted by Eye in the Sky:so ... there you go ... maintaining the no-mind ... well ... another story ...
sorry people ... me catching the live England-Ireland match on the tele, it's been a good sunny day here in London, so enjoy the game wherever you are ...
there is much to learn and practise
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.. much to learn???
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