Buddhist sutra is only a series of words??
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Here i am to base on the tientai school of Buddhist sutra classification for everyone to have deeper understanding of Buddhist sutra
Buddhist sutra classification was discovered by the famous master known as
Dao an from eastern jin dynasty in china ,
after the fall of the han dynasty
china throw into a series of warlords rule right after the end of the 3 nations
wu ,wei and shu
the eastern jin dynasty was imposed feudalistic idea but continued to keep Buddhism growing during this time
venerable master dao an , wasnt very dignified look, instead he looks
very ugly ,according to anecdotes
at first , many criticise dao an ,an short and ugly-looking monk
that his action is preposterous
that there is a "obvious classification and format"
in Buddhist sutra
because not many Buddhist sutra around
but when more Buddhist sutra appears and being translated and does concur wth the indian text
many ppl is convinced of his wisdom -
Can you elaborate what you mean by "obvious classification and format", what kind of classification and format in general speaking?Originally posted by bohiruci:Here i am to base on the tientai school of Buddhist sutra classification for everyone to have deeper understanding of Buddhist sutra
Buddhist sutra classification was discovered by the famous master known as
Dao an from eastern jin dynasty in china ,
after the fall of the han dynasty
china throw into a series of warlords rule right after the end of the 3 nations
wu ,wei and shu
the eastern jin dynasty was imposed feudalistic idea but continued to keep Buddhism growing during this time
venerable master dao an , wasnt very dignified look, instead he looks
very ugly ,according to anecdotes
at first , many criticise dao an ,an short and ugly-looking monk
that his action is preposterous
that there is a "obvious classification and format"
in Buddhist sutra
because not many Buddhist sutra around
but when more Buddhist sutra appears and being translated and does concur wth the indian text
many ppl is convinced of his wisdom -
next in the classification of Buddhism comes an important school
the school that leads to tientai Buddhism
that is the 3 treatise school
the 3 treatise school based on
zhong lun (the madhyamika treatise)
bai lun (one hundred verse treatise)
and twelve door treatise (twelve dependent origination treatise)
and the Great Perfection of Wisdom Treatise
though 3
the 3 treatise do include the 4th treatise to be the main treatise school
as more teachings appear ,the classification of buddhist terms becomes in process
thus give birth to the total classification and categorisation of Buddhist sutra -
wait zenith .... can let me finish this posting
so in every sutra u find
there is an format which the teaching is passed down
the most popular in the Southern School is the 4 stanza
"thus have i heard..."
why is this inside every sutra Buddha spoken
This is the answer when Ananda goes to ask how should the beginning of the sutra be
this "I" is a human as in the subject matter ,much different from the Indian vedic or God's religion of Invoking the God's name
then there is the 6 kind of achievement
one the time achievement
why is it called once ?
and not a particular timing
as there will be confusion if stated which exact ,becos in ancient times
there are more than 20 kinds of calendar
so to prevent dispute on which exact date
the "once" is used
Buddhist sutra is like having a meeting
the format is usually
who attended
the list of who's who
this is not for fun to put who's who in the list
not anyhow written down -
like for example in Amitabha Sutra
who attended as the prominent figures
like first
the Chief Disciples name as inside
then comes the bodhisattva
their names mentioned are discussed in individual sutra commentary
then the location achievement - where is it held
in vulture peak ?
vaisali (GUang yan city)
or
magadha (mo jie tuo guo) -
altogether there are 6 fold of achievement in the beginning of every sutra
then we talk abt the "obvious classification and format"
in the Buddhist sutra
the first part is the xu feng (introduction )
which consist of the 6 fold of achievement
and then the zheng zhong feng -main content
and the final part is the liu tong feng (who Buddha entrusted to pass down this particular teachings)
not sutra ,becos that time it is not committed to words yet -
for a comprehensive idea on what this classification is about
be patient i will find the url available -
Thanks for your comprehensive explanation
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havent finished
i hope to continue until
i reach the "teaching and visualisation , theme and motto " book
that is the most comprehensive on classification of Bodhisattva stages (Bhumis)
and the four kinds of land
u know wat i meant ,zenith
e.g. Shi bao zhuang yan tu
of course in future i will include the
the teaching of Great Contemplation of Insight and Cessation of thoughts meditation
Mo he zhi guan by ven master zhi zhe da shi of Tang dynasty -
So far I have heard Hua Yen's and Tientai's classification of Buddhist sutra according to the 49 year Timeline of Buddha's dharma discourses.
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OkOriginally posted by bohiruci:havent finished
i hope to continue until
i reach the "teaching and visualisation , theme and motto " book
that is the most comprehensive on classification of Bodhisattva stages (Bhumis)
and the four kinds of land
u know wat i meant ,zenith
e.g. Shi bao zhuang yan tu
of course in future i will include the
the teaching of Great Contemplation of Insight and Cessation of thoughts meditation
Mo he zhi guan by ven master zhi zhe da shi of Tang dynasty Look forward to your posts. -
okie ,let me explainOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:So far I have heard Hua Yen's and Tientai's classification of Buddhist sutra according to the 49 year Timeline of Buddha's dharma discourses.
the 49 years timeline is not really timeline
Buddha spoke to many people on many occasion
to the Higher faculties - the Bodhisattvas
the average faulties - arhats and srvakas and lay community and the royalties
the lower faculties - zhou li pan tie qie
the main 5 periods of teaching
He attained Enlightenment on the by deep samadhi and after His struggle with Mara thousand army of desire, temptation and despair .
at first in the first 49days ,He feels that the teaching He awakened was too deep for any to understand ,and wish to enter Parinirvana with Mara's request
The lord Brahma ,together with his retinue ,request Buddha Sakyamuni to turn the wheel of Dharma for the sake of those who is still suffering in the 6 realms of existence
the first period -Flower Adornment
on the first 3 - 7 days ,Buddha was in the Heavens talking to the nagar(dragons) and Dieties
He preached the Assembly of Buddhalands which in chinese known as Flower Adornment Sutra
the Adornment of Various Flowers symbolise all Mahasattvas and Bodhisattvas and Buddhas specialising in their areas of Attainment to periodical appear in the Saha world and other world to help sentient beings
Next , Buddha realised that His few disciple are Sound-hearer (sravaka ) and
renounce-affinity ( yuan jue ) are not able to understand the Mahayana teaching of Greatness , so He start from the 4 Noble Truth , the Noble Eightfold path , the 12 dependent originations
thus the turning of the wheel in Deer park(sarnath)
that is the Agama Period
then when the arhat have inspired the great path and many royalties came along with Mahasattvas in the assembly , Buddha initiated the period of teaching of Vaipulya Period (fang guang) means the Magnamious and Greatness of the Great Vehicle in the path of Bodhisattva to Buddhahood
third period ,Buddha teaches the Prajna period ,which He specifically taken 22 years for the assembly on 10 occasion to understand the whole concept of Emptiness
on the fourth period , which tientai also refers to akin to a Sun at the 4pm-5pm , He teach the teachings of Dharma Flower Period also known as Lotus Sutra
Finally as He about to enter Parinirvana,the final few years ,He gives the teachings of nirvana Period ,in this period ,He reiterates the teachings of the Great Vehicles ,the coming of Buddha Maitreya ,the decline of Buddhism in future aeons exhort the assembly to carry on the practice
His famous Last words is
"Subject to change are all things"
"Strive on with Dilligence" -
Oh I see... thanks for your comprehensive explanation againOriginally posted by bohiruci:okie ,let me explain
the 49 years timeline is not really timeline
Buddha spoke to many people on many occasion
to the Higher faculties - the Bodhisattvas
the average faulties - arhats and srvakas and lay community and the royalties
the lower faculties - zhou li pan tie qie
the main 5 periods of teaching
He attained Enlightenment on the by deep samadhi and after His struggle with Mara thousand army of desire, temptation and despair .
at first in the first 49days ,He feels that the teaching He awakened was too deep for any to understand ,and wish to enter Parinirvana with Mara's request
The lord Brahma ,together with his retinue ,request Buddha Sakyamuni to turn the wheel of Dharma for the sake of those who is still suffering in the 6 realms of existence
the first period -Flower Adornment
on the first 3 - 7 days ,Buddha was in the Heavens talking to the nagar(dragons) and Dieties
He preached the Assembly of Buddhalands which in chinese known as Flower Adornment Sutra
the Adornment of Various Flowers symbolise all Mahasattvas and Bodhisattvas and Buddhas specialising in their areas of Attainment to periodical appear in the Saha world and other world to help sentient beings
Next , Buddha realised that His few disciple are Sound-hearer (sravaka ) and
renounce-affinity ( yuan jue ) are not able to understand the Mahayana teaching of Greatness , so He start from the 4 Noble Truth , the Noble Eightfold path , the 12 dependent originations
thus the turning of the wheel in Deer park(sarnath)
that is the Agama Period
then when the arhat have inspired the great path and many royalties came along with Mahasattvas in the assembly , Buddha initiated the period of teaching of Vaipulya Period (fang guang) means the Magnamious and Greatness of the Great Vehicle in the path of Bodhisattva to Buddhahood
third period ,Buddha teaches the Prajna period ,which He specifically taken 22 years for the assembly on 10 occasion to understand the whole concept of Emptiness
on the fourth period , which tientai also refers to akin to a Sun at the 4pm-5pm , He teach the teachings of Dharma Flower Period also known as Lotus Sutra
Finally as He about to enter Parinirvana,the final few years ,He gives the teachings of nirvana Period ,in this period ,He reiterates the teachings of the Great Vehicles ,the coming of Buddha Maitreya ,the decline of Buddhism in future aeons exhort the assembly to carry on the practice
His famous Last words is
"Subject to change are all things"
"Strive on with Dilligence"
Sadly... I am neither an Arhant, nor a Bodhisattva... with very low faculty
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Just to correct you on a small point: 12 interdependant origination belongs to Pratyekabuddha, slightly higher than sravaka