Cold Morgue = Ice Hell
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There are many different cases pertaining to this. Some of them who are attached will remain in the body and not be able to leave, whereas certain ppl their 7th consciousness leaves the body very quickly or immediately.. which is why many people experience NDE witness the whole medical procedures from OUTSIDE the body... in the form of the 'transient-invisible-being' (zhong ying sheng), or antarabhava.
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Can you show me what the Buddha said about antarabhava?Originally posted by An Eternal Now:There are many different cases pertaining to this. Some of them who are attached will remain in the body and not be able to leave, whereas certain ppl their 7th consciousness leaves the body very quickly or immediately.. which is why many people experience NDE witness the whole medical procedures from OUTSIDE the body... in the form of the 'transient-invisible-being' (zhong ying sheng), or antarabhava.
wanna clear my doubts on this. -
The citations of the antarabhava can be found in several Mahayana sutras, like Ksitigarbha Sutra, Amitabha Sutra, etc (sinweiy could tell us more?), and several commentaries like the 'Essay on the Meaning of Mahayana' (da cheng yi zhang), in Vajrayana it is clearly described in the Tibetan Book of the Dead, and there are also several Pali Suttas which described the Anatarabhava.Originally posted by marcteng:Can you show me what the Buddha said about antarabhava?
wanna clear my doubts on this.
Ajahn Brahmavamso and Ajahn Chah themselves also believed in the existence of the intermediate state (antarabhava). If there is no intermediate state, then there cannot be near-death experiences taking place... or 'mind floating out of the body'.
Check the original forum topic on Antarabhava
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i have a friend who died in his sleep and was sent to the Morgue to find out what is his cause of death and they cut him up and use staple to sew him back...
Unless u are old and died naturally which is fortunate, i don't think they send u to the morgue and i think can have a funeral right away... -
Hopefully his consciousness has left before that happened. Any idea how long has passed before he was sent to the morgue?Originally posted by Isis:i have a friend who died in his sleep and was sent to the Morgue to find out what is his cause of death and they cut him up and use staple to sew him back... -
Less than 24 hours ...Originally posted by An Eternal Now:Hopefully his consciousness has left before that happened. Any idea how long has passed before he was sent to the morgue? -
Most of them should have left within 8 hours. Only in some cases will it be extended to days.Originally posted by Isis:Less than 24 hours ... -
There are cases where People who have amputated their arm and claim that they are able to feel their missing arm after months from the operation... It seemed to me that only those who are very attached to their body might probably feel painful durin post-mortem ( this is just my deduction ). Im also not sure whether the pain-killer the body emit can sustain till Post-mortem.
No matter what, whether you opted for organ-transplant or died unnaturally and has to under go Post-mortem. Death is Inevitable, unpredicatable and part of the nature cycle. I believe it will be good to accept it with Grace =) Thus with lesser attachment and less fear.
is it truth that a good person will have a better transition from death to rebirth? cos i heard a person who died in sleep mean there person has cultivated or has done good deeds before he died?
Even if one manage to escape all the ice hell and pain by delaying cold morgue and organ transplant, if one does not cultivated well and/or accumulated bad karma, one can still descended to hell and suffer.
Thus, it very important for us to strive to cultivate to attain enlightenment and awaken our buddhahood within..