last night
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before I sleep laying down in bed sometimes I say deep in my mind n heart may shakyamuni buddha & or all the buddhas & bodhisattvas in the universe if they can hear or feel me, to guide n protect me... then last nite after I said in mind, abruptly, suddenly, unexpectedly, out of no where, a male voice said in mind, ''who?!'' I was taken aback! fear started to creep in n puzzleness also. but I tell myself to maintain mindfulness even if I going to sleep not to fall into illusion. n soon I fell asleep peacefully. n can't remember my dream when I woke up.
does anyone also encounter such voice thing in yr mind other than yr own voice? -
what I mean n how I did when I say I put mindfulness even before I slept is - to watch how it would try or start to form n not letting my fear to become its tool to manifest itself. tat dun knw wat voice n whr it came from. so I tried to control the situation instead it take over n battle with my mind. its hard to handle at times u know...
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A voice in your mind, or you really heard it?Originally posted by paperflower:before I sleep laying down in bed sometimes I say deep in my mind n heart may shakyamuni buddha & or all the buddhas & bodhisattvas in the universe if they can hear or feel me, to guide n protect me... then last nite after I said in mind, abruptly, suddenly, unexpectedly, out of no where, a male voice said in mind, ''who?!'' I was taken aback! fear started to creep in n puzzleness also. but I tell myself to maintain mindfulness even if I going to sleep not to fall into illusion. n soon I fell asleep peacefully. n can't remember my dream when I woke up.
does anyone also encounter such voice thing in yr mind other than yr own voice?
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Very good.. being aware is being with the Buddhas. Then your may be answered easily.Originally posted by paperflower:what I mean n how I did when I say I put mindfulness even before I slept is - to watch how it would try or start to form n not letting my fear to become its tool to manifest itself. tat dun knw wat voice n whr it came from. so I tried to control the situation instead it take over n battle with my mind. its hard to handle at times u know... -
I really heard it in my mind. very clearly. definitely no one else around cos I was alone n surely not my own cos I'm a female how to hv male voiceOriginally posted by An Eternal Now:A voice in your mind, or you really heard it?
used to hv this voice thing quite often last time now occasionally sometimes hallucinations before falling asleep deeply.
after I started meditating, I find it easier to control n always reminding myself to be mindful even before I sleep.
sometimes I see 'other things' also when wide awake usualy unexpectly n naturally n frankly there was no fear just normal as if 'they' are like anyone else. -
I don't know whether it is spirits, but it could be. I have also seen such things before.. some years ago. In a rented house. If I were you, I will put a pocket sized buddha/bodhisattva photo beside me (so that i am more at ease), chant whenever you feel these things around you.Originally posted by paperflower:I really heard it in my mind. very clearly. definitely no one else around cos I was alone n surely not my own cos I'm a female how to hv male voice
used to hv this voice thing quite often last time now occasionally sometimes hallucinations before falling asleep deeply.
after I started meditating, I find it easier to control n always reminding myself to be mindful even before I sleep.
sometimes I see 'other things' also when wide awake usualy unexpectly n naturally n frankly there was no fear just normal as if 'they' are like anyone else. -
i am a very naughty person...During my monk hood alot of test n things happen...Cos i chant for fun and talk rubbish...
one incident was this...
The temple toilet was those u pour water in to flush type..Nt those mordern days u pull a string n flush...So after urine, i took a pail of water n flush off the urine...Den i wore my sarong( all monk wear it but is covered wif the robe) den i open the door...When i was unlocking the door, the water frm the toilet bowl juz splash out onto my legs...I was like "Wah" disturb me like tt...Den i go out... -
Maybe the dharma protector trying to wake you upOriginally posted by Bryan^:i am a very naughty person...During my monk hood alot of test n things happen...Cos i chant for fun and talk rubbish...
one incident was this...
The temple toilet was those u pour water in to flush type..Nt those mordern days u pull a string n flush...So after urine, i took a pail of water n flush off the urine...Den i wore my sarong( all monk wear it but is covered wif the robe) den i open the door...When i was unlocking the door, the water frm the toilet bowl juz splash out onto my legs...I was like "Wah" disturb me like tt...Den i go out...
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yeah i do have a bodhisattva pendant with me most time n i put it by my bed when i sleep.Originally posted by An Eternal Now:I don't know whether it is spirits, but it could be. I have also seen such things before.. some years ago. In a rented house. If I were you, I will put a pocket sized buddha/bodhisattva photo beside me (so that i am more at ease), chant whenever you feel these things around you.
i have been having such mind battle for a long time since very young.... -
there was once i experienced a great so real fear while meditating. that was when i just started out. i sat in front of the images of buddha & bodhisattvas and before the practice, i seek guidance 1st....
now when typing i'm still hesitating to describe what i went through. this one i really genuinely experienced and it was so bare and realistic and vivid that it taught me a great deal of lesson. from that moment onwards i realised i am the real master of myself and anything else are illusions and many things (more to discover) do exist and are naturally part of this world like u and me. and slowly as i move on, practice and read & learn & practice, i realised slowly revealing how true buddha words are. this i really have to encourage one to realise by experiencing personally with proper guidances and teachings. glad i did on my own but if u look at it, i am actually not so quite alone. (still searching for my teacher, waiting.....)
thus, i don't practice daily meditation actually cos i know i don't have proper guidance yet but nonetheless i still will brave through it alone to discover something or plainly just wanting to practice focus, mindfulness, concentration & to receive and maintain some inner peace clarity & balance.
i realised each time after i finish meditating, i see myself radiant & fresh in the mirror even with only 2 or 3 hours sleep a day at times. -
That's why it is so important to have a spiritual master to guide you on the path.Originally posted by paperflower:before I sleep laying down in bed sometimes I say deep in my mind n heart may shakyamuni buddha & or all the buddhas & bodhisattvas in the universe if they can hear or feel me, to guide n protect me... then last nite after I said in mind, abruptly, suddenly, unexpectedly, out of no where, a male voice said in mind, ''who?!'' I was taken aback! fear started to creep in n puzzleness also. but I tell myself to maintain mindfulness even if I going to sleep not to fall into illusion. n soon I fell asleep peacefully. n can't remember my dream when I woke up.
does anyone also encounter such voice thing in yr mind other than yr own voice?
My opinion is regardless of where this sound comes from, don't let it affect your cultivation.
Some people when meditating, they smell some fragrance smell like sandalwood josstick tan2 xiang1, it is actually the smell that deities pour on you, just don't bother it although it is good sign. Otherwise, it will become hindrance to your meditation.
A scary one that I heard is got this person meditating, then suddendly some ghosts one by one appear around her flying around screaming laughing. She scared but still can remain calmness. She told the ghosts "please don't disturb me doing meditation, I promise one day if I am enlightened, I will go and save all of you". When she finished this sentence, all of them disappear. I think a lot of bad karma are being washed away by this moment.
No matter, don't let hatred or greed to affect yourself. Don't let environment control youself. -
after sharing a topic like this, i went to bed last night. and.... i had a long night of struggling
before i close my eyes i was very "present" in the moment and could hear so much sound in the dark of the night all so clearly even the insect from the field downstairs amidst the engine of the bus pass by downstairs. then i just relax close my eyes..... hear knocking sounds on the shelf ( i know i not anyhow thinking) just find it weird why got knocking sound on the shelf in my room!? i ignored. then i felt my lower part of my body shaken and thought maybe hubby was pulling the blanket. i open my eyes n saw him snoring away. then i ignored continue to sleep.
i felt my back thought my hubby coming closer to me and can feel him almost touching me but felt abit strange i woke up. i saw him sleeping so soundly so far away from me. i ignored again.....
i close my eyes trying to sleep again. then i feel my body senses all become helpless and uncontrollable like something wants to take control n feel again the bed shaking like especially only on my part. frankly i was scared lah but i continue to remind myself to be calm and united.
don't know how many times i encountered these and i wake up n go back n sleep last night. but eventually i also fell asleep.
all these were really what i felt even in the conscious moment. sometimes i contemplate.... they are illusions & delusions of our minds being scattered or it could be really some other unexplainable things we havent realised n discovered yet. or they could be our karma energies from the past (past lives?)...... -
karma energies from the past coming back in those forms to trouble me????
i don't know..... -
u need to do chanting too
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hmm...
I've got a feeling that it's your "Yuan Jia" from the present or previous lives.
Most of the time, it is through negotiations that they will go away. This is why at most times it worked for all religions.
Chanting of Buddha's Name is one great way to mitigate this problem, be sure to also sincerely transfer merits to these energies that come to you (and to also let them know). "Amitabha" is a really good suggestion. You may wish to also perform some good deeds and dedicate the merits to them as well.
It will be VERY helpful to seek help from RELIABLE buddhist community pertaining to this.
Na Mo A Mi Tuo Fo.
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How about trying to have compassionate thoughts for the being when he is disturbing you.
May he be liberated from whatever condition he is in now...
If im not wrong, people who went to forest retreat usually chant some prayers to ask for protection by the deva or dhamma protector ( effective when you has uphold your precepts well )...
Buddha also advise them to radiant out metta thought to the hostile beings and these hostile beings will go away. -
yes thanks Isis.
I have a lot of fears & had face to face with them... no one nothing wants to be that way like them, can understand empathise with their kind of sufferings different from us. deep in my heart n mind I invite them freely to join me whenever i'm studying or practicing the buddha dharma. as they cultivate n learn, I cultivate n learn with them. my doors are open to them - any being from below to above. this is my compassion for them to be able to have relief from their sufferings.
and may them be equally protected & guided by the buddha dharma protectors as well.
think being n asking simple & contented & not with many wishes is relief from sufferings. -
just some additional advice ..
can try chanting the heart sutta for the being and advise him to let go ( if he is really a yuan jia????)...
just to share an account, i too have a friend who aso hear voices within and was advise by a venerable to chant a sutta.. she was aso told by the temple medium that it was a guai ren.. in a way, this incident induced her to believe in buddhism...
As what 'concerned man' has said, seek help from a reliable venerable if it still bother you.. sometime a highly- cultivated venerable can see your past life and tell u what karma it is.... but your past karma WAS... what matter nw is ...
i aso read from ur other post that u have made a vow to help others... keep in mind that it's not a easy route.. not a easy vow to keep...
Lastly,
May all sentient beings b free from all suffering. =) -
thanks alot Isis i will treasure your advices.Originally posted by Isis:just some additional advice ..
can try chanting the heart sutta for the being and advise him to let go ( if he is really a yuan jia????)...
just to share an account, i too have a friend who aso hear voices within and was advise by a venerable to chant a sutta.. she was aso told by the temple medium that it was a guai ren.. in a way, this incident induced her to believe in buddhism...
As what 'concerned man' has said, seek help from a reliable venerable if it still bother you.. sometime a highly- cultivated venerable can see your past life and tell u what karma it is.... but your past karma WAS... what matter nw is ...
i aso read from ur other post that u have made a vow to help others... keep in mind that it's not a easy route.. not a easy vow to keep...
Lastly,
May all sentient beings b free from all suffering. =)
yes i made a vow to bodhisattva ksitigarhba (in front of his image) with shakyamuni buddha & bodhisattva avalokiteshvara as my witnesses, earlier in jan this year, that i vow to be like him to liberate all sentient beings even if i were to be the last to become a buddha. took me a long time to decide and made this move. this move was motivated by his never ending perseverence non-selfishness great compassion kindness & love for all sentient beings. if enlightenment is just to be in void, then i think true enlightenment is to see others enlightened and liberated and freed! he is my role model if he can do it, anyone can too. (why him, cos i find him unique and not many talk about and when i asked people about him, they only say he's in charge of hell. but i know its more than that so i researched on him). i just only started in november05 to go into buddhism reading the sutras and practiced meditation.
am really grateful to all the people here for all your great patience kindness for guiding me advicing me without criticising me or ignoring my queries.
whatever it was, it is, will be...
i still have no regrets....!
even if i have to be a striptease to speak the dharma to another striptease i will still do it. even if i have to be in an unfavorable condition to speak the dharma to them, i will still speak the dharma to them in their way for them to "understand".