what is 108 Kata?
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Found this interesting website: Number Symbolism (in Buddhism)
Found this:
Buddhist Theravada tradition presents the number 108 as related to emotions:
"What are the thirty-six feelings? There are six feelings of gladness based on the household life and six based on renunciation; six feelings of sadness based on the household life and six based on renunciation; six feelings of equanimity based on the household life and six based on renunciation.
"What are the hundred and eight feelings? There are the (above) thirty-six feelings of the past; there are thirty six of the future and there are thirty-six of the present.
"These, O monks, are called the hundred and eight feelings; . . . ." -
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I feel attracted to vajrayana tradition too. don't know why... so enchanted by their mystical culture..... the colors of those monks robe...Originally posted by marcteng:What tradition do you practise, is it Theravada or Mahayana?
when I close my eyes I see myself on a high mountain like it was the himalayans like I been there before so familiar.
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Oh, thats not a coincidence, maybe you were there or were from Tibet in your previous lives.Originally posted by paperflower:I feel attracted to vajrayana tradition too. don't know why... so enchanted by their mystical culture..... the colors of those monks robe...
when I close my eyes I see myself on a high mountain like it was the himalayans like I been there before so familiar.
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Hi people, I'm very sorry about my ignorance regarding 108 Kata. Rahula25 kindly explained to me just now.. so pardon me if I caused any confusion. I have explained the significance of '108', but have not explained the meaning of 108 Kata. I believe the paperflower and bryan already know so this is to those who is confused by my post.
Kata means 'Gatha' in Pali, like Jayamangala Gatha etc. They are words of the Buddha, or discourses. Theravada Buddhists believe that Gatha from Buddha contains a profound meaning in it and also harbours great mystic powers. Therefore many monks meditate through these gathas and absorbs these gathas as a form of mantras... similar to the Mahayana practise of chanting Sanskrit mantras. Theravada Buddhists chant the gathas as mantras, whether for protection, spiritual harm, occult protection, protection from wild animals, etc.
In Thailand...many forest monks practising meditation in deep jungle...they using these katas to protect themsleves from all these harms n sickness. these katas are essence n by-product of highly accomplished Luang phor monks. The luang phor are compassionate and they teach these hidden katas to the devotees to benefit them. -
Rahula25 also asked me to share this amazing Kata with you all:
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its something i chose myself from all the options of tattoos.Originally posted by marcteng:what tattoo is that you haven said yet?
its a round lotus with some ancient-looking words that are (mantras?) inscribed in all the eight petals each & one mantra in the center of the circle. its hand-tattoo using a wooden stick and a needle to poke individually. (interesting experience in an ancient way of tattooing).
was painful but can say not painful also as i just concentrate meditating reciting na mo shakyamuni buddha (thinking & seeking to him to guide me always on the path to enlightenment no matter in what situations i am.
after finished tattoo-ing, the master recited the mantras and he blow at the tattoo.....
next, i turned around, and he did some reciting and placed an amulet on my forehead & continued reciting firmly earnestly and then blow at my forehead. in cantonese this is called "gam mok" dun know whats it called in other language perhaps "jing1 mu4" i just literally translating - golden vision? i dun know....
so all the while in the process i just kept meditating reciting shakyamuni buddha's name non-stop.
the tattoo resembled a lotus if looked carefully if not can just easily pass of as any ordinary mystical design to those who don't know. -
thanks, rahula25 & an eternal now.
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Paperflower....
Your Tattoo is called Sakyant in Thai. I believe you still hve doubts abt this Sakyant. I give u the following website for your reference please.
http://www.geocities.com/dharmagrafix108/
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u mean u tattoo on your forehead?Originally posted by paperflower:its something i chose myself from all the options of tattoos.
its a round lotus with some ancient-looking words that are (mantras?) inscribed in all the eight petals each & one mantra in the center of the circle. its hand-tattoo using a wooden stick and a needle to poke individually. (interesting experience in an ancient way of tattooing).
was painful but can say not painful also as i just concentrate meditating reciting na mo shakyamuni buddha (thinking & seeking to him to guide me always on the path to enlightenment no matter in what situations i am.
after finished tattoo-ing, the master recited the mantras and he blow at the tattoo.....
next, i turned around, and he did some reciting and placed an amulet on my forehead & continued reciting firmly earnestly and then blow at my forehead. in cantonese this is called "gam mok" dun know whats it called in other language perhaps "jing1 mu4" i just literally translating - golden vision? i dun know....
so all the while in the process i just kept meditating reciting shakyamuni buddha's name non-stop.
the tattoo resembled a lotus if looked carefully if not can just easily pass of as any ordinary mystical design to those who don't know. -
no, it's on my upper arm.Originally posted by sherling22:u mean u tattoo on your forehead? -
thanks!Originally posted by rahula25:Paperflower....
Your Tattoo is called Sakyant in Thai. I believe you still hve doubts abt this Sakyant. I give u the following website for your reference please.
http://www.geocities.com/dharmagrafix108/
there are limitless things in this world to explain & perceive & know about and they are not the things you bring along to true liberations. there's nothing to bring along at all. what's been done is done. journeys to cover, experiences to go through, nothing to hang on to. there's no doer, no performer, no listener, no talker for all past present and future moments.
life is just a dream - the difference is one is illusion and the other is real.
eyes-open meditation (with feelings senses sights sounds thoughts)
close-eyes meditation (no self to experience and experience to experience)
which one is true?
well,
i still have no regrets! -
i think my pc system got bugs..... some ad-ware bugs?
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Hi ! Paperflower...
U chose the Sakyant design will benefit u a smooth-sailing in life. It is also another form of blessings too.
So dun regret abt it....however, if in future u going for another sakyant, I advice u not to choose those animal sakyant design like Tiger, pigs, Bull or monkey. Those animals sakyants are meant for specific protections as there are originated from brahminism and folks beliefs.
U should ask the master what are these sakyants about? And their origins too. It is advicable to have sakyants that are abstracts from Pali buddhist scriptures rather than some unknown brahmin spells. Unless you are going for magical powers....then that is your preference.
Not everyone suitable for these animal sakyants as they will triggered hot tempted and negative emotions...some serious cases may cause u to enter into unneccessary trance. While U enter trance, U might behaved like the animal on your bodily sakyant.
There are many forms of sakyants and there are many meanings and usage too. Normally, monks not allowed u to choose any sakyants design..the decision shall goes to the monk who decide which sakyant u suitable accords to your astrological birth. There are many schools of sakyants in Thailand, thus monks will bestow u their best sakyant on you based on the schools of yantra that they are expertised.
Only those white clothed archans will allowed you to choose the designs where I feel not so appropriate lah...keke...
For sakyants, U can choose coloured or invincible one. I feel that coloured sakyants quite ragged. If too many such tattoo on your body might not look good in job interviews. Right? haha...
Hey..by the way, there are some restrictions u need to observe after sakyants...did the archan highlight u about it? -
Why choose to delve into such occults or mystic in the first place.Originally posted by rahula25:Hi ! Paperflower...
U chose the Sakyant design will benefit u a smooth-sailing in life. It is also another form of blessings too.
So dun regret abt it....however, if in future u going for another sakyant, I advice u not to choose those animal sakyant design like Tiger, pigs, Bull or monkey. Those animals sakyants are meant for specific protections as there are originated from brahminism and folks beliefs.
U should ask the master what are these sakyants about? And their origins too. It is advicable to have sakyants that are abstracts from Pali buddhist scriptures rather than some unknown brahmin spells. Unless you are going for magical powers....then that is your preference.
Not everyone suitable for these animal sakyants as they will triggered hot tempted and negative emotions...some serious cases may cause u to enter into unneccessary trance. While U enter trance, U might behaved like the animal on your bodily sakyant.
There are many forms of sakyants and there are many meanings and usage too. Normally, monks not allowed u to choose any sakyants design..the decision shall goes to the monk who decide which sakyant u suitable accords to your astrological birth. There are many schools of sakyants in Thailand, thus monks will bestow u their best sakyant on you based on the schools of yantra that they are expertised.
Only those white clothed archans will allowed you to choose the designs where I feel not so appropriate lah...keke...
For sakyants, U can choose coloured or invincible one. I feel that coloured sakyants quite ragged. If too many such tattoo on your body might not look good in job interviews. Right? haha...
Hey..by the way, there are some restrictions u need to observe after sakyants...did the archan highlight u about it?
tattoos doesnt mean a thing in regards to searching for the truth or salvation.
it is just for showboating, for others to see the tattoo in one's flesh only, nothing more than that. -
a lot of things no need over do & lesser do. balance is enuff.
my tattoo is done & it is still a tattoo. what's in there doesn't bother me. best protection & blessing is practice the dharma observe the 5precepts. respect all things for wat they are equally that's existing in the world gives one limitless protection, harmony, blessing. theres no theory anymore like woman hv menses can't do tis do tat. this theory has been ceased.
now I hv to cultivate more on my precepts cos I still like to drink & enjoy. -
From my dharma teacher's and my master's experience, alcohol can seriously affect your meditation. My dharma teacher accidentally drank a little alcohol and observed the effect hasnt totally waned even after days.. or even up to over a week.
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ic.....Originally posted by An Eternal Now:From my dharma teacher's and my master's experience, alcohol can seriously affect your meditation. My dharma teacher accidentally drank a little alcohol and observed the effect hasnt totally waned even after days.. or even up to over a week.
i'm not a regular drinker and i like to drink occasionally with friends but never alot. sometimes my little is like them getting tipsy & drunk and i'm still sober
even when i get tipsy i still aware what i doing. now i know drinking is definitely not good for cultivation. sometimes i scold lecture myself to wake up please be more descipline! kekee.....
i always have the natural "wantingness" to meditate but i never do it regularly.... i can count from the time i started til date is only less than my 10 fingers. life is so short, if i wasted away, i could have wasted so much time that i could use to meditate cultivate. i wanna help my friends who i see are so depressed so misleaded so ignorant.... i'm not asking them to convert but i just want them to realise that they can find some peace of mind thru meditation and how it could help change the way we look at life more confidently and easy-goingly....
but modern young people even those around my age finds this either too chim or too religious or too "old fashion". sad to see them going down the drain further further down into. -
frankly,.....
sometimes i cry when i'm alone to see how our lives are so much of miseries & sufferings...... -
marcteng...
Occult is needed for certain people...no choice...although occults are not the ultimate remedy for our sufferings. Sakyants are not merely show off, its different from ordinary ah beng tattoos.
My writings are for your reference...if you don't believe..then ok. Anyway faith move the world... -
I dun delve into occult, so I dun understand and dun wanna understand.Originally posted by rahula25:marcteng...
Occult is needed for certain people...no choice...although occults are not the ultimate remedy for our sufferings. Sakyants are not merely show off, its different from ordinary ah beng tattoos.
My writings are for your reference...if you don't believe..then ok. Anyway faith move the world...
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You don't understand then its your ignorance. And dun want to understand is your problem...Occults is there for thousand of years anyway.
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There are so many occults, i go and understand everyone of them lol? no need.Originally posted by rahula25:You don't understand then its your ignorance. And dun want to understand is your problem...Occults is there for thousand of years anyway.
well, all i need to know is the four noble truths and the noble eightfold path, life is impermanence and suffering and there is a way to end sufferings. thats what I need to know about.
The 4 noble truths excel all other truths and the best of path is the noble eightfold path.
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Yeh....indeed. There isn't a need to understand every occult with our conceptual short sighted perspective but ultimate truth embrace all phemonena and everything in cosmo space. U don't believe doesn't mean they doesn't exist anyway.
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for some info...,Originally posted by paperflower:is it a theravada buddhist chant or a thai culture or......?
here's a few lines of them:
na mo ta sa
pa ka wa to
ar rak ar to
sum ma sum put ta sa
na mo put ta ya
ja pa ga sa
nak ma pa ta
nak ma ar wut
Meditation on the Buddha:- http://web.ukonline.co.uk/buddhism/dmasam2.htm#5
here, i found out from the webby that the chant was called Araham in the Theravada tradition and it is not a mantra : Namo Tassa Bhagavato Arahato Samma Sambuddhassa means - I pay my homage to the Buddha who has the two qualities of Arahato and Samma Sambuddho.
this is used as recitation during meditation on the qualities of the Buddha.
the other part i am still finding.....
but i know "na mo put ta ya" is namo buddhaya (the 5 buddhas)